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ImpAtom posted:Wild Arms 1 is. It's aged (especially the battle graphics) but is fun to play and has Zelda-style dungeons mixed with JRPG combat.
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Zereth posted:The out of battle graphics are pretty sweet, though. Yeah, they're silly SD sprites but I like them myself. They have that PS1-era charm.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:01
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Zereth posted:The out of battle graphics are pretty sweet, though. Yeah, that and while RPGs have their gameplay mostly in battles, Wild Arms keeps you mostly in Zelda style dungeons. The battles are still solid, and I personally appreciate that it avoids the often gimmicky systems of more modern games. The force system was always a nice touch, but nothing overdone. It's only major fault, outside of a rather ho-hum script, is battle graphics looking truly awful. I personally have little issues looking past them, however. Heck, all of this Wild Arms talk makes me want to give the game another go, but I probably should finish 3. I never quite caught the bug it seems a lot of you did with that game, but it did still keep the charm of the series well enough. It's just drat that game drags on and on.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:07
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I love 3(I think I've mentioned before that it's one of my favorite JRPGs), but it's weird in that it's 3 (sorta/kinda four?) seperate stories that just kinda take place in the same world with the same main characters solving them. Basically 3 seperate seasons of the same anime or some such. It doesn't matter though because it has pretty much the best cast of any RPG ever.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:23
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That's probably a good way of thinking about it, and it makes sense in hindsight. It'll probably work out better for me keeping that in mind, because I got bored originally wondering why things seemed so haphazard, like a few plot lines just sort of got forgotten (though they were technically solved, I was just expecting some sort of twist).
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Dec 18, 2014 06:29
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Kiggles posted:It's only major fault, outside of a rather ho-hum script, is battle graphics looking truly awful. I personally have little issues looking past them, however. Off the top of my head the only PSX graphics I take issue with are the 3D models in Wild Arms 2, which were highly touted at the time. Advertised on the jewel case and everything. They, uh, they haven't aged well. I genuinely think that every other PSX JRPG has aged well, all things considered, but WA2's battle models are not good. To be fair though I haven't played Beyond the Beyond since it came out so I don't know how well those graphics have aged. e: actually they look fine   e2: on second thought, WA2 doesn't look as rough as I remember it, maybe I do need to replay it 
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Dec 18, 2014 06:37
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Yeah the WA1 battle graphics looks waaaaay worse than 2.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:51
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ImpAtom posted:The Wild Arms franchise in general is not very popular. Even popular franchises have a really hard time getting fan translations done for games that already have a translation, even a lovely translation. (Note how there's no meaningful retranslation for FFVII, literally the most successful JRPG ever.) Are you insinuating that the current ongoing FF7 retranslation isn't meaningful goon sir??? Judas Iscairot is going to change the entire franchise!
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Dec 18, 2014 07:01
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The White Dragon posted:Wild ARMs music is a little hit-or-miss with me. Like half of every soundtrack is really great, whether it's slower stuff like Alone in the World or A Person's Warmth, or battle theme poo poo, and then the other half is kind of... unlistenable
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Dec 18, 2014 07:07
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Zereth posted:Yeah the WA1 battle graphics looks waaaaay worse than 2. Yeah I went and looked at both of them (I haven't played either since PSX-era) and WA1's battle models look more rough than WA2. I guess I owe WA2 an apology.  I was a bit spoiled by Alter Code F I think, which did have pretty stiff models but was a decent graphical update on the original. The non-battle sprites and environments still look great in WA1 though.dude789 posted:[...] It's the most apparent in the WA1 battle themes, but WA2 also suffers a lot with a bunch of the songs being way too short. A lot of the tracks, including most of the dungeon ones, are less than one minute long. Some barely manage to hit 30 seconds. For example I really like dungeon type 2 but, even if it loops smoothly, it's really short (one minute!) for a repeating background track you hear a lot.
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Dec 18, 2014 08:05
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goldjas posted:I love 3(I think I've mentioned before that it's one of my favorite JRPGs), but it's weird in that it's 3 (sorta/kinda four?) seperate stories that just kinda take place in the same world with the same main characters solving them. Basically 3 seperate seasons of the same anime or some such. It doesn't matter though because it has pretty much the best cast of any RPG ever. Or put another way, it's like a really extended Dungeons and Dragons game, where the plot gets resolved but everyone is attached to their characters, so the DM makes up another plot for them to get involved in.
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Dec 18, 2014 08:57
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I'm playing Dragon Age: Origins and really liking it. I'm thinking that I'll probably Dragon Age II, but I've been hearing that it's not a good game. Is it?
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Dec 18, 2014 09:19
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Vincent posted:I'm playing Dragon Age: Origins and really liking it. I'm thinking that I'll probably Dragon Age II, but I've been hearing that it's not a good game. Is it? Even if you like the frankly kind of shoddy even if you're being generous writing in DA2, the gameplay is a massive slog that never really goes anywhere. And Inquisition is one of the best things Bioware's put out in years.
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Dec 18, 2014 09:21
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Dragon Age 2 is a really lazy, rushed game that is, mechanically, more like Fantasy Mass Effect than a legitimate sequel to Origins. I haven't had time to play Inquisition yet but apparently it's really good.
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Dec 18, 2014 09:21
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Dragon Age II is basically a very drawn-out under-budgeted sidestory of the Dragon Age universe. Except the end of the game is the whole reason why Inquisition's world is a mess. Really don't play it, watch a story summary somewhere because everyone is the worst possible rear end in a top hat with no redemption outside of like Aveline.
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Dec 18, 2014 09:29
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Endorph posted:And Inquisition is one of the best things Bioware's put out in years. That was my reason to buy Dragon Age origins and my interest in playing DA2, but yeah, it seems that the game is bad. Looking for reviews, it seems that the Gametrailers one is the most shameless one, holy poo poo.
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Dec 18, 2014 09:31
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Tae posted:Really don't play it, watch a story summary somewhere because everyone is the worst possible rear end in a top hat with no redemption outside of like Aveline. Hey, Varric is cool too. But he's still cool in Inquisition and that's actually a good game.
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Dec 18, 2014 10:11
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i started playing ffxiii-3 last night this game could have been salvagable if not for the terrible writing. god hired lightning to literally be jesus i guess? the combat and dress up is good but oh boy my eyes have never rolled harder than the first hour of the game. it is just written so poorly all i can think is it was supposed to be meant to be preachy where it comes back around to being not preachy or something?
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Dec 18, 2014 14:46
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hubris.height posted:i started playing ffxiii-3 last night god's the bad guy who you kill with the Power of Love. the plot's hilariously stupid, just roll with it
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Dec 18, 2014 15:29
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corn in the bible posted:god's the bad guy who you kill with the Power of Love. the plot's hilariously stupid, just roll with it holy poo poo thats fantastic. you really wouldn't think it from where i am in the story now, because it sounds like final fantasy x christian cross over fanfiction its real bad. but you were right about combat / dress up, its satisfying also why is there over $70 in dlc for this game wtf
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Dec 18, 2014 15:39
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The first city in 13-3 is dull. You can take a train to other places though. Is there an easy way to farm Ethers in 13-3 in NG+? They go amazingly well with that late game sword that drains your HP but goes through final boss lifebars in seconds.
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Dec 18, 2014 15:44
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Yeah LR takes a bit to get going but then it just goes balls-out, it's the most fun I'd had with an FF in ages.
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Dec 18, 2014 15:44
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lightning returns is the best ff plot in years.
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Dec 18, 2014 15:54
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can i just use time expansion indefinitely to explore and grind and do quests? i saw that the train takes up time, but i'm not really sure how "tight" the time frame is
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Dec 18, 2014 15:55
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Yeah, you can. All it needs is a few fights and you'll recharge it before it's done, even.
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Dec 18, 2014 15:57
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hubris.height posted:can i just use time expansion indefinitely to explore and grind and do quests? It's not. By the end of the game I had finished every quest and still had to skip a lot of time to get to the conclusion. Just stop time a bunch and don't waste a lot of time waiting and you'll be fine. Normally I'm paranoid about this sort of thing, but it's not really a concern in LR. Worst case, I'm pretty sure that if you do run out of time you can just start a sort of NG+ mode where quest progress and levels are saved or something like that.
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Dec 18, 2014 16:00
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Stats are saved, quest progress isn't*, I think. * It saves whether you've completed the quest before, because your rewards will be lower, but I don't think it counts towards story completion within NG+.
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Dec 18, 2014 16:02
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Vincent posted:I'm playing Dragon Age: Origins and really liking it. I'm thinking that I'll probably Dragon Age II, but I've been hearing that it's not a good game. Is it? It's not as bad as people make it out to be, and you'll miss out on a lot of references in Inquisition (which is the best of the three games) if you aren't familiar with the plot. It does have some obvious flaws (like the crazy lack of dungeon variation) but overall it still manages to be fun. I say give it a quick playthrough.
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Dec 18, 2014 16:02
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Plus the voice acting on Hawke is p. good, especially the  lines
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Dec 18, 2014 16:20
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Oh no, not references! Definitely make sure to invest 30 hours of your life so you will get references to a bad game while playing a good one.
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Wendell posted:Oh no, not references! Definitely make sure to invest 30 hours of your life so you will get references to a bad game while playing a good one. Especially since the main plot references stuff from DA2 DLC that isn't even in the main game.
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Dec 18, 2014 16:26
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you could play dragon age 2... or you could spend ten minutes on the dragon age wiki. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx_BlcZsVW0
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Dec 18, 2014 16:27
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I missed DA2 entirely and yeah, it's completely skippable. You can alter the world state in the Keep and get a five-minute narration of every major plot point. So little actually happens in it compared to Origins that whatever references exist don't leave you lost at all.
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Dec 18, 2014 16:37
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Does DA Origins stuff import into Dragon Age Inquisition or is it just like a "new game" thing that asks you about your choices from the first games through dialog?
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Dec 18, 2014 17:05
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Gyshall posted:Does DA Origins stuff import into Dragon Age Inquisition or is it just like a "new game" thing that asks you about your choices from the first games through dialog? There's the Keep, which will let you save and alter the worldstate from the first two games for every conceivable decision point. Otherwise it will just stick you with a default world state if you don't want to bother loading your previous saves or altering anything.
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hubris.height posted:can i just use time expansion indefinitely to explore and grind and do quests? you can, yeah. fights give you back EP, and fights in the chaos always give at least 1, so if you seek those out you can chronostasis forever. each main quest you complete increases your maximum EP, too. pro tip, though: when you kill a boss (any fight that gives you a star rating counts as a boss) be sure to check around where the fight happened, because they always drop a unique red item reward on the ground, and if you leave you'll miss it. e: chronostasis is also good for any side quest that gives you a short time limit to do something, because time limits are always based on the ingame clock. so if you have to kill X enemies or reach a certain spot in an hour, you can just freeze time for as long as you like. corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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The issue with Dragon Age 2 is that, on top of the infamous writing and obvious rush job, it's just boring. The combat in general -- including enemy types, patterns and abilities -- never meaningfully evolves throughout the game, and once you've seen the first encounter against a horde of enemies who die instantly led by one or two sturdier warrior or rogue types as well as the first encounter against a mage type, you've seen nearly everything the game has to offer save for the few bosses. The dialogue is Telltale Games-esque Choices for Choice's Sake coated in horrible humor, and the ending is just straight-up moronic. I didn't like it, not one bit.
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Its not meaningfully worse written than every other bioware game but the lack of polish and poor execution makes it way funnier than their other games. If you can enjoy bad things it is worth a play.
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Just read about the ending which is the most obvious/lol choice ever. I guess that is the plot for DAI? Templars vs Mages?
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Gyshall posted:Just read about the ending which is the most obvious/lol choice ever. I guess that is the plot for DAI? Templars vs Mages? That's the backdrop, but then it quickly moves in a different direction following the first act.
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