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Hey, I figured you all might know why this is happening: I run CM12.1 and I recently updated from a May 3rd build to a May 23rd one and when doing so, you need to reinstall GApps. However, the package on their site simply did not work for me. It would always spit out the error "Google Play services has stopped" and I couldn't do much of anything alongside notifications not coming through for whatever reason. But then I found an old GApps download I had lying around and used that one – no problems. The one available for download no doesn't have any distinction between arm, 64, and x86 and is just one solid download: https://github.com/cgapps/vendor_google/releases/tag/2015-05-24 Could that be the reason?
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# ? May 27, 2015 14:12 |
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noirstronaut posted:Hey, I figured you all might know why this is happening: Didn't I say this would happen and you said it wouldn't? LastInLine posted:There are other criticisms such as the pain in the dick to get Google apps to play nicely with the system and having to constantly monitor those for issues. When I last used it there were three or four consecutive GApps packages that had quirks to address, like edit this script or fix that filename, before they were usable. noirstronaut posted:I guess I should ask for a more current response relating the current versions of CM to current stock ROMs. There aren't any of these small nuances in the current version of CM, e.g. I don't have to worry about it. Yes. Yes I did.
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# ? May 27, 2015 15:09 |
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"But then I found an old GApps download I had lying around and used that one – no problems."
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# ? May 27, 2015 15:20 |
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noirstronaut posted:"But then I found an old GApps download I had lying around and used that one – no problems." My point still stands, you can't trust the resources to be correct and at every turn you're fixing minor problems. I mean if it's worth it to you, that's great. Have fun diagnosing and fixing your phone every time you update. But you asked what's wrong with CM and we told you and you denied it was a thing that happens when now you're experiencing exactly the thing you were told about. Like I said it's not a big deal and because problems constantly crop up you get really good at fixing those problems but it's the reason why nearly everyone here who is already experienced in doing this constantly says not to do it because in the end it turns out it's just more satisfying to own a device where that's not necessary.
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# ? May 27, 2015 16:09 |
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At least now he can use those sweet HTC emojis!
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# ? May 27, 2015 16:40 |
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Endless Mike posted:At least now he can use those sweet HTC emojis! I can use them regardless of the firmware, I've told you this before. I don't know why you're so hung up on me wanting to use different emojis and figuring out how to do so? LastInLine posted:My point still stands, you can't trust the resources to be correct and at every turn you're fixing minor problems. I mean if it's worth it to you, that's great. Have fun diagnosing and fixing your phone every time you update. But you asked what's wrong with CM and we told you and you denied it was a thing that happens when now you're experiencing exactly the thing you were told about. I'm not experiencing it? I just wanted to know why it happened and if it was a fault of how the new GApps was distributed or something different. Like, I easily fixed it by installing a different GApps package which is no problem at all.
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# ? May 27, 2015 16:56 |
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noirstronaut posted:I can use them regardless of the firmware, I've told you this before. I don't know why you're so hung up on me wanting to use different emojis and figuring out how to do so? noirstronaut posted:I'm not experiencing it? I just wanted to know why it happened and if it was a fault of how the new GApps was distributed or something different. Like, I easily fixed it by installing a different GApps package which is no problem at all. What would a less experienced person do in your situation there? This is exactly what I was talking about with regards to quality.
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# ? May 27, 2015 17:18 |
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Zom Aur posted:Because it's funny. I was only ever concerned about myself in these situations so I have no idea how anyone "less experienced" would be relevant. Hell, this entire detour we're taking in asking why something was happening is irrelevant. Also, if someone can bother to install CyanogenMod at all, installing GApps shouldn't be a problem at any level at all. It's quite literally the same process.
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# ? May 27, 2015 17:22 |
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Rooted Android: You really don't need HTC Emoji
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# ? May 27, 2015 18:01 |
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i did they are great
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# ? May 27, 2015 18:02 |
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So, counterpoint... I updated from CM12 to CM12.1 this morning and installed that very same GApps package from CM's Github with no indication of trouble so far. I have signature verification enabled in my recovery but I know that's not the default in a lot of cases, maybe your download got corrupted?
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# ? May 27, 2015 18:29 |
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The way CM12/.1 installs means that A) it'll blow away Google Apps when you do (or any other app you pushed to system, like BetterBatteryStats), forcing you to reinstall it again, and B) it'll confound default attempts to install Google Apps automatically; you'll have to either let it finish installing the OS then install it separately (you can do this immediately after without restarting recovery, no biggie) or figure out a way to make the install scripts do an explicit set of rescans after installing the OS. Both lessons I learned from trying to stretch the life of a thing by making it go F2FS. Neither of these is poo poo a user should have to worry about, and if they're absolutely hellbent on rooting, they should get something with ready access to factory images (like a Nexus, not even a Moto until they update the Dev/Pure Images page) and with an image worth rooting (again like a Nexus; Moto would be okay here if they fixed the first thing), root that, and just hang on to the factory image for the sake of OTAs. A lesson I learned from getting a 2014 Moto X Pure Edition (and grabbing the 5.0 factory image from the Motorola Device Manager). Also something no one should have to worry about. IT STILL USES MSXML 4.0 WHAT THE HELL MOTOROLA. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 21:43 on May 27, 2015 |
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Sir Unimaginative posted:The way CM12/.1 installs means that Half right on A and I have no idea what you're talking about on B. For A, Google Apps get some kind of special handling so upgrades don't blow them away (though manual updates may still be required, as it was for me since I was coming from a 5.0-based nightly), but other things (cf.Lumen in my case) do need to be reinstalled. For B, my update did exactly that and installed Gapps immediately following flashing the upgrade.. Just a normal TWRP multiple zip install, nothing special, not a CM-affiliated recovery either. What about it doesn't work for you? Does the Moto X have one of those weird setups where ROMs work differently from most? I know I hear about those on Motos all the time, but AFAIK it's all in relation to locked bootloaders which I have to assume from the "Pure Edition" name yours is not stuck with. wolrah fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 27, 2015 |
# ? May 27, 2015 22:10 |
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noirstronaut posted:I was only ever concerned about myself in these situations so I have no idea how anyone "less experienced" would be relevant. Hell, this entire detour we're taking in asking why something was happening is irrelevant.
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# ? May 27, 2015 23:00 |
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wolrah posted:Half right on A and I have no idea what you're talking about on B. For A: Maybe? I know that parts of the Google Apps thing have disappeared before on CM update unless they're explicitly reinstalled in recovery. Maybe if the apps receive updates first they'll stick around without the extra effort; I don't know. For B: Could be because recovery scripts are assembled based on what the initial state of the /system volume is, rather than reevaluating it after each step. Which seems dodgy, and would explain why it'd work going from CM to CM but not from another circumstance. Keep in mind the CM stuff is for a not-Moto device, namely a Nexus 7 2012. Stock on that, with the well-known flash issues, only supports ext4 and chugs with it (and unlike stock CM oddly handles its orientation sensors, uh, at all). For Moto: No, the current Moto thing is because since the Lenovo hand-off they've dropped the ball on updating their recovery images for developers page. Nothing there is 5.0+ yet. And Motorola Device Manager is the only other way to pick up factory images rather than OTAs (and won't give you one if the phone thinks it's OTA time).
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# ? May 27, 2015 23:18 |
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Sir Unimaginative posted:For A: Maybe? I know that parts of the Google Apps thing have disappeared before on CM update unless they're explicitly reinstalled in recovery. Maybe if the apps receive updates first they'll stick around without the extra effort; I don't know. You can modify these hooks to restore other things as well that you've put in /system, like say better battery stats.
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# ? May 28, 2015 00:13 |
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Zom Aur posted:Cyanogenmod has some hooks in the recovery (I think) that automatically makes a backup of the current gapps, flashes a clean /system and then restores the gapps backup to the clean /system. I know this is how it used to be done. There is a shell script (in /etc? Maybe?) where you could backup and restore specific apps for each update. You could also have it do cleanup if you wanted, like have it remove apps that CM installs by default that you'd prefer not to have.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:26 |
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Just found out that I can root my Asus Zenfone 2. I`m so happy, mainly for the SD Card Fix, Greenify and AdAway. I don`t care about Custom ROMs or recovery.
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# ? May 29, 2015 03:49 |
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Hey sorry if this isn't entirely appropriate here but you guys are the most knowledgeable so I thought I'd try asking. I'd like to sideload shamu 5.1.1 LMY47Z onto my LMY47D 5.1 Nexus 6. The problem is my phone has full disk encryption enabled. I'm poo poo out of luck aren't I? When I boot into recovery mode, my phone disappears from windows devices and "adb devices" shows nothing. My phone is stock. No root. I had root before and a whole bunch of bullshit but I flashed back to the factory 5.1 image.
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# ? May 29, 2015 05:10 |
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Full device encryption isn't a problem, a locked bootloader is. You'll have to unlock your bootloader to flash stuff, which will wipe your device. Also ADB devices won't show anything in bootloader mode, you need to use fastboot commands. code:
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# ? May 29, 2015 05:38 |
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Thank you!
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# ? May 29, 2015 06:10 |
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If you can find the ota file, pretty sure you can use "adb update" and don't need an unlocked boot loader and it won't wipe anything. Option 2 at this guide: http://www.howtogeek.com/205535/how-to-install-android-updates-for-your-nexus-devices-without-waiting/ Only constraint is needing to have the ota rolling out so someone can grab it and post it, and this just lets you bypass the waiting for the ota to hit your device.
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# ? May 29, 2015 13:41 |
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I'll post it here since it's not a release build: Anyone running the MNC preview on a N5/6? How good is it as a daily driver? My main dev device is my N5 but it's also my actual phone so I'm torn between flashing it or not.
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# ? May 29, 2015 14:17 |
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Tunga posted:I'll post it here since it's not a release build: Same here. Would love any commentary about it, positive or negative.
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# ? May 29, 2015 14:24 |
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LastInLine posted:Same here. Would love any commentary about it, positive or negative. First impressions from engadget and the verge: it's stable (in ~12 hours of usage) but lacks some of the main features (Now on Tap, for one). Google claimed they'll be updating it more often than the L preview. Personally I think I'll wait until those new features are in.
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# ? May 29, 2015 14:47 |
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nocal posted:First impressions from engadget and the verge: it's stable (in ~12 hours of usage) but lacks some of the main features (Now on Tap, for one). Edit: This might be wrong. Google Now product manager (or similar) implied that it would be in a later previews in a Coffee with a Googler session at I/O. Tunga fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 2, 2015 |
# ? May 29, 2015 15:25 |
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Is there an easy way to root the preview on the n5 yet? Want to try it out but would rather not set everything up again without titanium (or adaway)
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 18:00 |
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Skarsnik posted:Is there an easy way to root the preview on the n5 yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/how-to-root-android-m-t3125614
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 19:22 |
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Yikes Might wait a bit then! Thanks anyway
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 19:33 |
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Anybody want to help me with my 1st Gen Moto G?
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 08:41 |
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El Generico posted:Anybody want to help me with my 1st Gen Moto G? What are you doing, rooting or converting to GPe? Which do you have, LTE/GPE/vanilla?
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 09:21 |
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LastInLine posted:What are you doing, rooting or converting to GPe? Which do you have, LTE/GPE/vanilla? I was just rooting before, but hey, getting rid of all this Motorola garbage sounds nice. I have vanilla. Device Model: motorola-XT1034 Android Version: 5.0.2 Build Number: LXB22.46-32
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 09:27 |
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El Generico posted:I was just rooting before, but hey, getting rid of all this Motorola garbage sounds nice. I have vanilla. That's something I can't speak with authority about, sorry. This is where you'll start, though.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 09:36 |
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LastInLine posted:That's something I can't speak with authority about, sorry. This is where you'll start, though. I managed! I'll have to stick with non-GPE for now. Thanks.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 10:24 |
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What garbage software does a Moto G have? I know Spotlight can be disabled.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 12:28 |
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Vykk.Draygo posted:What garbage software does a Moto G have? I know Spotlight can be disabled. Just about everything on the apps drawer in the launcher on the G can be disabled. There's practically zero reason to root it for this purpose.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 17:47 |
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I just got my new AT&T S5 and it came with Lollipop installed stock. Am I reading everything right when it says to root I need to downgrade to KitKat, root it, and then upgrade to a modded root Lollipop? Or is there a newer, less painful method yet
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# ? Jun 6, 2015 22:08 |
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Spaced God posted:I just got my new AT&T S5 and it came with Lollipop installed stock. Am I reading everything right when it says to root I need to downgrade to KitKat, root it, and then upgrade to a modded root Lollipop? Or is there a newer, less painful method yet http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/489071-tutorial-downgrade-samsung-galaxy-s5-5-0-4-4-kitkat.html Get Odin running and flash a factory image from sammobile is the process in a nutshell. It shouldn't need root to do.
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# ? Jun 7, 2015 08:10 |
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When I connect my rooted Note 3 SM-N9005 on 4.4.2 to my Mac, Kies says that there's an update available to 5.0. Can a rooted user update using this method? Does one have to unroot to do it?
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# ? Jun 13, 2015 12:54 |
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You'd have to check whether Kies is offering your device an OTA or a complete image. You might have to go to XDA for this one.
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