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Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



epsilonomega posted:

Has anyone put Cyanogen 6.1 on the Droid yet? I'm hesitant because I've read about issues with Google apps not working properly (I use Google Voice all the time).

I installed it, and I'm digging the new features, but I hit a few snags: some apps not showing up on the Market, Voice Search constantly FCing, and a few other little things I don't remember. This is even WITH a pre-install wipe and letting ROM Manager handle all the dirty work.

I finally solved it by downloading the install zip and the gapps zip from the Cyanogenmod site and doing the wipe/install manually, and now things are running as smooth as ever. Can't recommend it enough...it's hard to beat having a power control widget in the notification bar.

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Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Emo Businessman posted:

I selected the only google apps that were available when I installed Cyanogen 6.1.2 through that Rom Downloader application.

I've gotten really weird results (including missing Market apps) using ROM Manager, and I don't think I'm the only one. It's probably worth manually downloading and re-flashing both the update and the Google apps packages. Maybe even worth trying once without a wipe, but of course you should be ready to do it again with a wipe if that doesn't work out.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



n0manarmy posted:

Well balls, that's no fun

It's pretty quick, though. My Droid boot time seriously halved when I got rid of the fancy boot animation I'd been using and just let Android use the default one.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Casao posted:

I'm not sure how to tell how much you have in /system easily, so hopefully someone will correct me.

This is an incomplete solution, but if you use Root Explorer to navigate to /system, the bar at the top of the screen will tell you how much space is free there. Doesn't give you any info about the partition's total size, but you can at least see how much room you have to play.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Tranax posted:

Crossposting from the help thread, was told I'd have a little more luck here, not sure if these problems are specifically related to the rom but that's when they popped up.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you used ROM Manager to install CM? If so, try re-downloading the ROM and GApps files from here:

http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/files/...motorola-droid/

and then installing them manually from CWM recovery (along with a full wipe of data/cache, of course). For whatever reason, ROM Manager seems to give wonky results, especially with the latest CM. I had weird issues with my first few installs using ROM Manager (even though I wiped), but doing everything manually fixed everything.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Protokoll posted:

I'm going from one ROM to another and I want to absolutely nuke everything on my phone. If I wipe the cache and data through Clockwork and format my internal storage/SD card (one and the same on the Nexus S), is there any other residual data on my device that I can delete?

The ROM install scripts should handle wiping the other partitions (/boot and /system being the important ones).

Protokoll posted:

Also, is there a way to prevent Google from restoring my apps when I flash a new ROM? I have the option to backup disabled but when I flashed CM7 and then another ROM, it restored apps both times.

Not sure if this works on the S, but on most vanilla Android phones, you can skip the initial setup wizard (the one with the big green Android in the middle of the screen) by tapping the four corners of the screen in a clockwise fashion, starting from the upper left:

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/06/1...motorola-droid/

If you go into Settings:Accounts and add your Google account after that, it shouldn't download your apps that time.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



DkHelmet posted:

No, I pulled the VMM.apk from Virtuous and dropped it in /system/app with a rw'd partition. It's in there, just not running.

Maybe it's something depending on Sense?

The permissions might be wrong. I forget exactly what they should be (rw-r--r-- maybe?), but if you just match them up with the other apps in that directory and reboot, you should be good.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Maker Of Shoes posted:

I'll let you know how it performs over the next few days. Every previous GB ROM I've run has poo poo its pants after 24 hours. I flashed this new CM nightly about 3 hours ago and so far no quirks but the next day will be very telling.

Just out of curiosity, what did form did this pants-making GBS threads take? Horrible laggy performance? Constant FCs? Bootloops?

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Maker Of Shoes posted:

Most notably would be the phone taking 10-15 seconds to unlock and after a day or two the Dialer app would also poo poo out whether it be not launching at all or when somebody called my phone would just white screen and ring until I yanked the battery.

Yikes, fun times. I might wait to hear how things go before I take the plunge, then. Hopefully they'll get it stable on the Inc soon.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Skeezy posted:

No clue but it shouldn't be an issue. Nothing bad happens from what I can tell.

I just assume when it's green it's connected and working and when it's white the signal is wonky.

Specifically, it's green when it has a solid connection to Google's servers and white when it doesn't. It's a new GB feature.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Zarkov Cortez posted:

That's a little disappointing

Then you're really not going to like this.

Personally, I plan to follow their advice.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



BathroomTile posted:

Other people pointed this out, I think in another thread, but Motorola turned their back on this:

http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...androidcentral+(Android+Central)

Huh, interesting. Definitely a reversal of what seems to have been a long-standing policy. I'll be interested to see what they come out with, but they've ruffled enough feathers that they won't get too far if they attach any ridiculous policies or pricetags to their "developer" phone.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



ndrake posted:

Very basic question, but does anyone have an incredible that they flashed to the latest stable cyanogen? I'm new to rooting, when I tried it I couldn't activate the phone. At the activation screen there is no keypad, and google nets me "hold menu to get a keyboard," which gets a keyboard, not a keypad, and the phone doesn't seem to pass the keypresses on to verizon (so I can't push 1 to activate). Anyone else run into this problem? I'm sure it's something simple...

I've flashed CM 6.1 a bunch due to some idiotic belief that it might be worth trying a Sense ROM here and there, and I've never had any trouble like this.

The usual prescription for weird crap with CM is to wipe and reinstall. If that doesn't work, try downloading the ZIPs for the ROM and the Gapps from the website and doing a manual wipe/install rather than using ROM Manager.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Ashex posted:

Bugger, I went with an HTC because I perceive it as having a higher build quality then the SGS phones. So far I've noticed that the camera isn't as nice, speaker phone is a bit tinny, and the DAC isn't as good.

I guess I'll be going with that bluetooth option I was looking at in my next car.

If it makes you feel any better, Bluetooth streaming from my DI sounds better than it did on my Moto Droid. Could be placebo effect, but hey, as long as I'm happy, right?

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



IOwnCalculus posted:

I thought you could at least backup data between the two, if not the apps / system data itself?

In other words - if I decide to switch from Fresh to CM7, am I going to lose my Angry Birds scores?

Data from apps like Angry Birds and Homerun Battle should be fine. Just don't try to restore stuff like SMS or your browser bookmarks.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Kaluza-Klein posted:

I have an original verizon Droid that I love, but the wife is begging for it and letting me use her upgrade to get the latest and greatest. She isn't letting me wait for the Thunderbolt .


I suppose my two choices are either the Samsung Fascinate or the Droid X (or Droid 2?).

I am very unclear about what I can and cannot do with these phones with regards to "rooting" them. The Droid I use is rooted, has SPrecovery, all that bullshit on it, and I greatly enjoy putting new roms on it every few weeks to try things out.

My understanding is that this isn't completely possible with the Droid X, as it can be rooted, but you can't replace the boot loader? How exactly does this limit me? When I look at droidforums.net they seem to have plenty of ROM options for the Droid X, so how is that happening?

At the same time, the Fascinate seems to be fully rootable (whatever that means), but looking at droidforums.net there doesn't seem to be much going on with it. Hardly a single rom.

Can some one please clear this up for me?!

If she honestly can't wait another ten days and swapping with her until then* isn't an option, and rooting/aftermarket support is a big deal, you might actually be interested in the Droid Incredible. Smaller screen than the X and Fascinate, but no locked bootloader BS and it's got a great ROM community since it's so similar to the N1 in terms of hardware. It still holds up great against the X and blows the Fascinate out of the water in aftermarket support.

All that said, the Thunderbolt is a relatively minor upgrade over the Incredible (and X and Fascinate), but it would definitely be worth waiting for if you can convince her to wait that long.

* You can do this manually through your My Verizon account online; I forget exactly what the option is, but it's something like "Activate a new device" under your line. You just enter the ESN of the "new" phone and do a *22899 afterwards. Not sure if it'll work with a device that's already activated on another line on your plan, though; you may need to go into VZW for that.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



savesthedayrocks posted:

I'm looking for some troubleshooting advice, and I don't know where to pinpoint the problem.

A while back I bought a used Droid from a member here that was already rooted and had "simply stunning" running on it. Everything was great except when I turn the ringer to vibrate, it doesn't vibrate on notifications. Calls and actually turning it to vibrate makes the phone vibrate though.

Figuring it was the ROM, I tried "bugless beast" last night but the same issue followed. I checked all the options on the phone, and the applicable ones are checked, I'm just wondering if there is something that may have been missed when it was rooted that caused it to act this way.

tl;dr - Rooted phone doesn't vibrate on notifications, just calls

When you checked all the options, did you check each individual app's notification settings? Most apps like Gmail, SMS, and the like have their own individual "Vibrate Always/Only on Silent/Never" option. As an added bonus, most of them don't have the currently selected option displayed, so you have to tap the option to check/set it.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



travisray2004 posted:

Ok so I want to upgrade my Incredible to Clockwork Recovery 3.0.0.5 and figured that I can use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612

However, I honestly haven't done much research into it but know that it will convert the internal storage to EXT4, so am I safe to assume that emmc won't be readable by Windows?

Yeah, the other dude who replied to you is on to something. That thread you linked is for a totally different device by a totally different manufacturer on a totally different cell network. The best possible outcome you could end up with would be it not working, and you run the risk of screwing something up badly. At the very least wait until someone hacks it onto the Inc rather than just grabbing random packages and trying to install them.

Why do you want to upgrade CWM Recovery anyway?

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Sizzlechest posted:

Will that wipe out the backup already there? I want to prevent the restore once CM 7 is loaded for the first time in case it's loving something up.

You can also skip setting up a Google account on the first boot and create it manually from Settings later on.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



There are suggestions to fix the CM GPS issues on the EVO on the previous and current pages of this very thread. Might be worth a try on the Desire.

Links:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...1&pagenumber=58
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...1&pagenumber=59

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



helsabot posted:

Quick question- do I need to do a wipe before flashing a new kernel? I just starting MIUI and its great but sometimes when I hit the power button the screen doesn't wake up so I'm trying a new kernel...does that even make sense?

Absolutely do NOT wipe data before flashing a kernel. Some people advocate wiping cache or even just dalvik-cache, though.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Mo0 posted:

When I have a boot loop on CM7, and my Moto Droid only goes to "Bootloader 2C.6C" (black screen that tells me I can plug in a USB cable to "start programming" but nothing else) when I hold up+X while turning it on, do I have a bricked phone, or can I somehow flash using that bootloader that I've never seen before?

If your phone is stuck on the bootloader screen, you can use RSD Lite to flash an .sbf, but you'll pretty much end up back at stock and have to re-root and everything again.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Sizzlechest posted:

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Another possibly silly question: Is it necessary to create profiles in SetCPU or is there a default behavior? Is there a documented set of agreed upon profiles that everyone should use?

The default behaviour is whatever is showing on the main tab. There's no one set of profiles that everyone agrees on; some people just turn down the maximum frequency and switch to a conservative governor when the screen is off (and this is handled automatically by the smartass governor), while others have a ton of different settings for every conceivable combination of temperature and remaining battery life. Personally I haven't even had SetCPU installed since I got a kernel with the smartass governor.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Jerome Agricola posted:

The Desire has S-On.


If you are trying to remove the pre-installed applications in hopes of freeing up space for other apps, don't bother. The pre-installed crap is on the system partition and regular apps use the data partition, which is sized at 142 Mb no matter how much preinstalled bloatware crap you have. I think re-partitioning is pretty much the only way to get more space for apps on the Desire.

For what it's worth, I think you can free up some space on /data by moving the apks for Market-updated system apps into /system. You'd probably have to delete the originals first and then reboot, though. Titanium Backup can do this automatically as well.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Gourd of Taste posted:

Hey is there a quick one-click root for the incredible? Considering doing it for a friend and if z4root works it's not a thing but if it's going to be a lot of work..

It's an HTC though so it shouldn't be crazy right?

http://unrevoked.com/#inc

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Ozmodiar posted:

So, I know that by default you can create a folder called "Ringtones" on your SD card and Android will recognize that and allow you to set things in there as a ringtone...but I have two problems with it:

1. It seems to be hit of miss. Earlier today, My ringtone worked just fine for one call, then for no apparent reason, it defaulted back to some generic ring for the next call. Then, when I tried to set the ringtone I wanted again, it wouldn't let me.

2. If I have my SD card mounted, the phone acts like it's in silent mode and doesn't make a sound.

So...is there a way I can alleviate these problems? i.e. - since I'm rooted, can I just place ringtones into the /System partition so that they're not even on the SD card anymore? If so, what is the correct folder to do so?

I had this same issue and got sick of it as well, but luckily the fix is easy. Just use Root Explorer (or something similar) to go to /system/media/audio/. In that directory, you'll see the same folder structure (./alarms, ./notifications, ./ringtones) that you have in the SD card folder; just move the audio files into the appropriate directory and make sure to set the permissions on each one to rw-r--r-- (or 644). After a reboot, go in and redo all of your custom ringtone/notification settings, and you should be good.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Ozmodiar posted:

Thanks...but I don't follow 100%.

I used File Manager (came with CM7) to locate the /system/media/audio folder, and it has the subfolders you named...however, the folder I created on my SD card (/Ringtones) does not have that same folder structure...I'm not sure if this matters or not. Also, I have no idea how to set folder permissions...and you completely lost me at "rw-r--r-- (or 644)"...

Help?

No worries about the folder structure; just put the audio files in the correct folder for what you want them to do (e.g., ringtones into the ringtone folder, etc.).

It doesn't look like the CM File Manager will let you set permissions, so you'd have to either use the Terminal Emulator or Root Explorer to do that part. Let me know which one you'd prefer and I can walk you through the appropriate process.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Ozmodiar posted:

Thanks for the help.

In general, I fail at Command Line, but I'm willing to try. Really though, whatever process is easier, I'll do that.

I know Root Explorer is like $5, but if it's worth it, I'm happy to help support a developer.

Root Explorer is way easier (and generally awesome overall), so I'd say it's totally worth the investment, especially if you plan to do a lot of ROM re-flashing and need to repeat this process (since any ROM installation will wipe /system). Anyhow, here's what you'll want to do:

1. Open Root Explorer and navigate to folder containing the audio files you want to use as ringtones
2. Hit Menu:Multi-Select and tick the relevant files (it will help you later on if you remember the filenames of the files you're using)
3. Tap the little "Copy" button at the bottom of the screen
4. Navigate to /system/media/audio/ringtones
5. IMPORTANT: See the little button that appeared in the upper-right hand corner of the screen? The one marked "Mount R/W"? Click that. It should change to saying "Mount R/O". (Root Explorer may also ask for root access at this point, but I think it might have done that upon initial launch....can't remember exactly.)
6. Tap the "Paste" button at the bottom of the screen. It'll copy the files that you had previously selected.
7. Now you have to set the permissions of the files you just copied so that the system can use them. Scroll down through the folder you're in and find the first of the files you copied.
8. Long-press that file and select "Permissions" in the dialog
9. You'll get a little 3x3 grid of permissions; in the "User" row you want to tick "Read" and "Write", and in the other two rows (Group and Others), you only want to tick "Read". The final result should look like a reverse L-block from Tetris, with the long end pointing downward.
10. Tap "OK"
11. Repeat steps 8-10 for each of the files you copied. You'll know you did it properly if the little group of letters and dashes underneath the filename is the same as all the previously-existing files in the folder (in this case, it should be "rw-r--r--")
12. If you also have files you want to use as alarms or notification sounds, repeat the above steps, but go to the appropriate folder for that audio type in step 4.
13. After you've gotten all the files copied and permissions set, you'll need to reboot to get the OS to detect the new files. You may also want to rename or delete (after backing it up to your computer!) the folder with the original files so you don't have the OS detecting both copies of each file.

Once you've done it a couple times, it's really not nearly as big a pain as it looks.

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Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Kaluza-Klein posted:

I got an HTC Inspire yesterday, a nice upgrade from the original Droid.

I have installed CM7 nightly on it (3/3) and it is working wonderfully, except for one small sticking point.

It keeps playing some full screen CYANOGEN 7 MOD animation over and over. Every FIFTEEN SECONDS or so, between dropping me back to the desktop for a painfully brief moment.

Dear god, what have I done?

That sounds like a boot loop. Try wiping and reflashing, and if you still get it, poke around a bit on XDA to see if that particular nightly is just broken.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Gyshall posted:

The headphone on my loving OG Droid is loose and I need to have it replaced from Verizon. Right now I'm rooted and running CM6 - how do I unroot it?

Your best bet if you're sending the phone back would be to grab the stock .sbf and use RSD Lite to nuke the thing back to a clean, like-new state.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



heat posted:

There isn't an option for restoring just data because it doesn't back them up separately. I don't know how many apps you have with data you care about, but you can probably get away with restoring just those apps one at a time (no idea if you would have to uninstall the Google restored version first, probably not)

You can absolutely restore just data. Just do a batch restore of all user apps, untick the ones you don't want to restore, and it'll toss up a dialog asking whether you want to restore apps+data, just apps, or just data. The last option is the one he wants.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



Ozmodiar posted:

Yeah...I got that much...

What about :
Interactive
Conservative
Userspace

Wile I'm asking, there's a checkbox for "Set on boot" - Restpre CPU Settings on Boot. Does this mean that whatever governor I select will not remain selected on a reboot unless I check that box?


I'll give those a go.

I don't understand the settings for the Custom Light Levels though...

Interactive is a bit fuzzy, but it apparently scales the processor speed using a more sophisticated algorithm than ondemand, which supposedly increases responsiveness. Conservative scales the processor up in steps based on load, rather than ondemand (which just goes to max once load crosses a certain threshold). According to the SetCPU coder, "The userspace governor is currently useless. It's another way for applications to set the CPU speed that SetCPU does not use."

I've become a fan of the smartass governor, which is available in some new kernels and automatically throttles back the max frequency when the screen is off. Saves the need for a SetCPU profile to do this.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



LastInLine posted:

Honestly I couldn't find anything on those but here is the thread on it at xda. Feel free to look, it might be in there.

More specifically, you can find the full explanation here:

http://www.setcpu.com/#7

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



brc64 posted:

I'm having an unusual issue with CM7 on my EVO. Basically, the screen responds.. strangely.. when the phone is plugged in. It's most noticeable when trying to type on the keyboard while plugged in. I frequently get double-presses on letters and other weird behavior that I don't see when typing unplugged.

Has anybody else run into this? It's not a big deal, honestly, just a little weird.

Are you using a third-party charger/cable? Some phones can apparently behave weirdly when plugged into cheap aftermarket chargers. I know this was a problem with the original Droid.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



chomper posted:

So apparently I need to update my OG Motorola Droid to the new FRG83G...

Is this still rootable? Will my usual rooting method still work?

I would hate to upgrade and be stuck with stock.

You might be better off waiting a few days/hours/minutes and just flashing a rooted FRG83G image, which I'm sure will be up on XDA before long.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



chomper posted:

Will do... in the meantime, is there any way to stop the constant pop up annoying me to update?

Actually, good news...it looks like the rooted image is already available!

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/me...xed-frg83d.html

I didn't realise that FRG83D was the OTA from December, though. Didn't the OG Droid just get another OTA in the past week or two? I'd double-check to make sure that FRG83D is the one you're being prompted for, since if it's not the newest one, you'll just get pestered to update again as soon as you install this one anyway.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



yamdankee posted:

Yeah I tried that but it keeps doing the same thing.

Might have to reinstall in that case. Swype's licensing scheme is ridiculously picky about things like ROM changes and the phase of the moon, and even Titanium Backup doesn't always work, but you can usually clear things up by nuking it and reinstalling from the beta site.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



rotaryfun posted:

Can anyone explain kernals to me?

I'm running cm7 rc2 nightly on my og droid and folks on the droid and cyanogenmod forums talk about flashing to different kernals. I downloaded the ChevyNo1-1.0Ghz-lowV-7slot-update kernal, but I really don't want to flash it without really knowing what I'm doing.

I've never flashed a kernal so I guess I'm running the stock kernal? How much danger is there in flashing kernals?

Currently have setcpu enabled with profiles and the max clock I can set it to is 800mhz. My understanding is that the kernals just allow you to clock higher?

Very simply put, the kernel is basically the piece of software that acts as a go-between for the OS and the hardware. With Android, the biggest implication of this is, as you said, overclocking. Some kernels also allow you to underclock below the speed allowed by the stock kernel. Many kernel devs have also tweaked the voltage used by the processor, which can result in battery gains if done properly. Since no two chips are identical, though, different people often get wildly varying results with this last one; if the voltage is too low for your phone to handle, you'll get into bootloops.

You can also find kernels that have tweaked stuff like charging speed, governor (which decides how fast to run the processor at any given time)

Other advanced features offered by some kernels include the ability to use different types of filesystem, enhanced memory management techniques like compcache, and certain types of swap. Generally you don't need to worry about this stuff unless you're a power user.

The worst consequence you'd likely have to worry about would be the need for a wipe and restore/reinstall. As long as you do a nandroid backup before flashing the kernel, you should be fine. If your phone won't start up, or it freezes/randomly reboots a lot after flashing the kernel, you know you need to try another one.

Theoretically it would be possible to ruin your phone's hardware with a bad kernel, but in practice the hardware will reboot itself before reaching dangerous operating temperatures. The OG Droid in particular seems to handle overclocking well; I've never seen one that couldn't get at least to 1 GHz.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



quadratic posted:

How exactly does one say MIUI? I've been saying "my you eye", but I don't know if that's right. (Or if there even is a right way.)

According to this XDA thread:

quote:

If you were to translate the name ‘MIUI’ to English, it would probably sound something like ‘meeooee’.

No idea how accurate that is, but the article cited by the guy who posted that sentence looks a lot more authoritative than the guy who speculated that it stands for "My iPhone UI".

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Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007



chomper posted:

There is a sticky in the CyanogenMOD Motorola Droid forum that said it's uncertain when a final will be released, as "development is, and always will be, slow for the Moto Droid."

Is there a reason for this other than the phone's age and relative lack of power?

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