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x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Carl FTWinslow posted:

They rap too much about surprise sex and that's something nobody should support because it's not funny or interesting. I'm all for 'rawness' and pushing the lyrical envelope but I draw the line at surprise sex.

I doubt any of them have raped a girl. I don't think they are actively supporting the idea of raping girls.

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x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Carl FTWinslow posted:

Glorifying a subject I find reprehensible does not deserve support even if it isn't genuine. It also does not make them immune from being attacked for glorifying it as well.

People drawing the line of "Oh, it's just lyrics" at surprise sex is not uncommon and sugar-coating it is very creepy.

Edit: For the record, I think they've given what they want to do in the world a lot of thought, and I respect that, but it's a huge bummer that they chose this lyrical path.

The people who are going to end up raping somebody are likely going to do so regardless of what OFWG spits. Rap glorifies other reprehensible things such as murder and greed. People are going to be murderous and greedy regardless.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


QWERTTY posted:

Lil'wayne is ugly as gently caress.

He'd prolly gently caress your girlfriend or wife tho.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


cardedagain posted:

well, if you got interscope's management and xl's funding and mos def talking to kanye west and questlove and jay-z for you, sure you can have whatever you want,

Well given it didn't just happen magically, but with hard work and persistence the above things you listed occurred and put it into existence.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Any comments on the recent B.O.B. diss? I been a BOB fan since before OF was on the scene and I think he's dope despite his "sellout"-ish album so I'm not taking sides. But I think the diss track is dope. I like how it's reaction is kind of like "whoa i didn't know this dude could actually spit." Anyone who has paid any real attention to Bobby knew that.

But still I can't consider it a real-rear end diss because he didn't make specific statements other than using the word "future"

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


lu_ducky posted:

It was a silly track. B.O.B doesn't have the bite to actually diss anyone.

Yeah upon further listens I realized this. I like the beat and the way he is rapping but the diss element of the song has practically no substance other than "YEAH I'M DISSIN U BRO!~"

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Backup Snacks posted:

I believed it til the last sentence, subtlety man.

It wasn't really subtle before that.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


I think this is Syd too, it's pretty dope: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8EDh95K6uE

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


The Pale King posted:

wow, this is really good. is that her singing? i hope she puts out a full album sometime

To my knowledge yes thats her. I think Lux is the other dude singing in the song. Its crazy how dope these lil kiddos are.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


IM DAY DAY IRL posted:

Thanks for your input on your sexual attraction towards members of Odd Future, looking forward to more great posts like this in the future

HAhahaha. That's how I feel too.

Dude, if you think Syd is attractive... ah, nevermind.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


I'm jus sayin she ain't very attractive and she's also a les. (You may be a les also tho?)

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


IM DAY DAY IRL posted:

Thanks for your input on your sexual attraction towards members of Odd Future, looking forward to more great posts like this in the future

Thanks for your input on my input on sexual attraction towards members of Odd Future

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Why are people bitching that people are discussing Earl? This is the Odd Future thread? where we are supposed to discuss such things?

If you wanna speak of other things then go ahead and bring them up and if other people wanna discuss it then they will.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Yeah, poo poo's been weird. And the video you're saying is so "weird" is really more funny/comedic than genuinely weird. I don't think he's going too far out of his way to be weird, just fits his sense of humor

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


they aint tryin to cash in so quick or yes they would make some FREE EARL and TINA PERM YOUR @&#@ING WEAVE shirts. Instead they just put some goofy type poo poo that actually fits in with the streetwear aesthetic better than any of that type of poo poo would.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


QWERTTY posted:

Tyler put this on his twitter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Bd...nel_video_title

new group in the odd future label?
& their tumblr shows they are coming out with an album. http://badbadnotgood.tumblr.com/

Yeah, pretty sure that they are just a band doing a tribute to OF, not sure what made you think they are in OF or in OF's label or watever

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Jirolico posted:

Earl and Tyler are considered the best rappers in OF, hands down, but which members of OF are closest to their level? From what I've heard, Mike G, Hodgy and Domo Genesis seem to have the skill and flow there, but not so much the Tyler/Earl level of genius creativity. I'm not so much sold on Jasper the Dolphin or Taco. Frank Ocean is a good addition. Sometimes it's tough keeping everyone's voices and names together. One thing is for sure though, I definitely miss Earl's verses on Goblin.

I think Earl is the best in terms of pure rapping/emceeing ability, followed by a pretty close second which is a tie between Hodgy and Tyler. I think the idea that Tyler is a better rapper than Hodgy is a myth. Tyler is probably a better storyteller and more prominent, but Hodgy is good at making a less conceptual/story-driven song and just making a regular rap tune.


edit: btw, love the album so far, I like the non-traditional song structures and off-kilter production. Both of which I feel like rap could use a healthy dose of, which it is getting.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Jirolico posted:

How does Mike G's mixtape stack-up versus Earl's and Domo's?

Alot of Mike G's raps sound a lot more amateurish compared to Earl's and even Domo's, but thats not so bad because he doesn't try to do anything too crazy and he's been getting a bit better since Ali

edit:
Done with the album. Overall really good, about what I expected from Tyler with some pleasant surprises. It is a nice continuation of Bastard's themes with some other subject matter added on that doesn't feel tacked on. I think this puts Tyler in a pretty good place to grow and do some different type of shiz now that he got a lot of surprise sex shoot kill/therapist rhymes out of the way.

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Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


I don't know if he's so much challenging it in the larger political sense as in a personal sense.

As far as the "homophobic" jokes go, that doesn't come off as homophobic to me just regular ol' funny. Then again, I am only 19 which is not too far from your standard of 15.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Ugh. some of you people are fools and some of you are overanalyzing fools.

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

offensive or not, people actually think the line, "I'm not homophobic, enjoyable human being" is funny? ugh

it's not just supposed to be purely "ha ha ha ha ha ha OMG HAHAHAHAH" funny. its kind of a statement that just because you say a word doesn't necessarily mean you are something else, in this case a homophobe or whatever. its about Tyler's philosophy "do what the gently caress you want...i'm a loving unicorn." It is about being "radical" and extreme because you feel like expressing yourself that way, not holding back because people will call you juvenile or homophobic. of course this something a lot of people lose as they age, this whole album is a statement on that

you guys think "her" is reminiscent of a Usher song? besides the fact that Ocean sounds a little like Usher (like a lot of singers nowadays) it isn't really like an Usher song at all.

even if o'reilly is an easy target he is still a very prominent rear end in a top hat so i don't mind him being called out again. guy is a fuckface and deserves to be called out until he is a dead man.

that's all.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Upon a couple more listens the album has grown on me more than Bastard ever did. I love the end of Fish.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Perpetual Ascent posted:

this thread has become really terrible.

This, and especially at the person saying they completely failed to live up to the hype. Why do you deserve even the least bit of honor/credibility/attention for saying that when, like you implied, nothing EVER lives up to the hype because HYPE is public opinion on things that the public has not heard.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Daniel J. Geduld posted:

Do people seriously like listening to Tyler over Hodgy Beats?

I like them both but yeah a lot of people write Hodgy off unfairly I think, he really is better than Tyler in some ways but he's not as good at creating that larger narrative that pulls people in like Tyler does

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


I can't co-recommend Nostalgia, Ultra enough. poo poo is GOOD

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Maybe Waka should reach out more to his white hipster fanbase.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


ICA posted:

Doesn't mean the music isn't homophobic and hateful.

it's self expression, not instructional material.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


jesus christ. juvenile misogynism and homophobia is FUN have you people all forgotten that

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Hip-hop-o-pot-o-mus posted:

Any artist that appears at the Gathering of the Juggalos is an artist no longer.

Uhh... Dj Quik aint a artist?

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


I really would not call Frank Ocean "Kid Cudi 2.0"...

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Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


snyprmag posted:

This is a theme in modern hip-hop and r&b that's a lot bigger than just the two of them. The Weeknd, Kendrick Lamar and Drake (maybe, just the impression i've gotten from the bit of his i've listen to) touch on this a lot.

Exactly. And really a lot of Ocean's stuff centers on emotion without relating to the theme of drug-use explicitly, whereas cudi will straight up mention weed and other stuff.

The only song I can think of that has a lot of drug references by Ocean is Novacane, and the only references are to the title drug and a "ice blue bong" or whatever.

Ocean I feel like is what Trey Songz would sound like if he mellowed out a bit and liked Death Cab For Cutie a lot more. Kid Cudi uses a little bit more played out imagery also, "in the shadows of the darkness of my room" from Maniac sounds lyrically like some poo poo Linkin Park would've done on their first album. Not that I don't enjoy a little Cudi, but I wouldn't have ever made that connection if you hadn't mentioned it and I think for good reason.

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Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Horrorcore is definitely black. When I think horrorcore I think earlier 3 6 and poo poo.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Harley C posted:

how about we all agree to disagree

How about you agree to post yourself rapping a horrorcore verse. Okay go.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


iron chic posted:

I think justifying why you like a group that perpetuates surprise sex culture is actually pretty important.

Yep. Perpetuates surprise sex culture. surprise sex will continue and be accepted only exclusively because of Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All woot

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


iron chic posted:

Yes because that's what surprise sex culture means

uhh well is that not what you were getting at? them rapping about surprise sex = them promoting the acceptance of surprise sex in culture, and, in the end increasing the amount of actual surprise sex that goes on? if not then feel free to clarify

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Wait, are there people that REALLY think surprise sex is hilarious? I don't, and haven't met anyone else who upon listening to OF's surprise sex lines started cracking up laughing. I don't think thats the point.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Well I don't know. I don't laugh at them but I appreciate the fact that they say poo poo like that. Definitely not because surprise sex is cool, but because I feel the concept of saying whatever the gently caress you want should be more important than it is. Sometimes expression is not actually evidence of motive and in those cases it should be protected.

I'm not sure that made sense

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


hush. were perpetuating pointless debate.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Sucks that that is a problem for you, but lyrical justification doesn't even come to my mind. I'm too busy JAMMING THE gently caress OUT.

Anyway the new Frank Ocean song is excellent (features ZERO surprise sex lyrics too!!!) and I listened to it 10 times in a row when I first heard it. It's probably still on the front page of hiphopdx.com

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


rap is where they commercialize it and talk about jewels and stuff! because they don't do that in any real rap! ever!

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Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


Ras Het posted:

I wish I was in school on Samoa, and in fact I'd much rather do that than be a famous shock rapper I think.

Even if it was a crazy cult-like school that did not allow music or basically 90% of the freedoms you are enjoying at the moment

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