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Footboy
Feb 3, 2003



TransatlanticFoe posted:

Does anyone know if there's any way to replace the strings on the Mustang? Is there any way they can break in the first place?

I don't know what they're made out of, but all six strings are comparable in gauge to a 6-E string, and they have a fair amount of wiggle-room. Whether they can be replaced depends on your opinions regarding the user-serviceability of plastic guitar instruments; me, I'm afraid to look in there.

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olblue
Nov 9, 2003

...lets go exploring!


Deathlove posted:

This just makes me feel terrifyingly old.

Sup ancient goonbuddy. Fortunately that song brings back a whole world of happy memories - along with the hideous glam of the same era. Here's hoping for Dressed for Success. And more Dire Straits of course. And perhaps Jump by Dave Lee Roth.

Orgophlax
Aug 26, 2002




olblue posted:

Sup ancient goonbuddy. Fortunately that song brings back a whole world of happy memories - along with the hideous glam of the same era. Here's hoping for Dressed for Success. And more Dire Straits of course. And perhaps Jump by Dave Lee Roth.
Jump was Van Halen. No idea how long the exclusivity of the GH:VH game is but until that's over it won't be in RB.

D is That Guy
Dec 24, 2004

Yo DJ, drop that bass

Would be super sweet if it was just a clamp holding them on on either end. I'm also a bit curious as to how much wiggle room you have. $7 bucks for a set of Slinkys, and a wire clipper and you've got strings for a while. Plus if the possibility for actually having the proper string gauge for the correct "String" is there, I'd be a lot more willing to drop on the mustang controller rather than waiting for the Fender.

I do think you'll be hard pressed to break one of the default strings though. I doubt they are under as much tension as they would be on a real guitar, and on top of that I'm guessing all six strings on the mustang are going to be somewhere around a .46 to .52. In 8 years of playing I can count the number of times i've snapped a .52 while playing on one hand.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004

WOO
WOO
WOO


You know it!


I'm in the minority that I love this game's setlist. The 80s songs all rule, the indy stuff I love (Portions, Con, Combat Baby), Misery Business is a song I've wanted for some time and it's introduced me to bands I want to explore more: Riverboat Gamblers, The Bronx and Phoenix. I definitely like this list more than others. Including Lego, I think the track selections have gotten steadily better from 1.

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Someone who owns the Mustang can probably answer this question a bit better, but on the demo guitar I played with the strings felt more plastic than metal - not the same feel as real strings at all. There was also a fair amount of play in the strings, although that might have been due to it being a demo model that had been abused.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Hello chiicagooo!

Oh, wait, is that a GameStop employee in the back? Hey, you, give me a refund. No, I don't care if it was my fault, just - look, am I the one with the microphone or not? REFUND, biyotch!

weekly font posted:

I'm in the minority that I love this game's setlist. The 80s songs all rule, the indy stuff I love (Portions, Con, Combat Baby), Misery Business is a song I've wanted for some time and it's introduced me to bands I want to explore more: Riverboat Gamblers, The Bronx and Phoenix. I definitely like this list more than others. Including Lego, I think the track selections have gotten steadily better from 1.
The Lego setlist is such a weird thing. I'd say it had the lowest lows and (arguably) highest highs of any RB game. However I think the number of "exclusive" (at the time) songs in LRB is influencing that impression. In a rhythm game vacuum, RB3 just might be untouchable.

FearOfABlackKnob
Nov 5, 2008



How do we wrestle control over Van Halen's song "Jump" from Activision because this song is perfect for Rock Band 3 and the keyboard.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Hello chiicagooo!

Oh, wait, is that a GameStop employee in the back? Hey, you, give me a refund. No, I don't care if it was my fault, just - look, am I the one with the microphone or not? REFUND, biyotch!

In case anyone was wondering, the old RB games just see the keyboard as a regular Xbox controller (it thinks you're a vocalist). I tried it in LRB last night. I was wondering if there was any chance of it showing up as a guitar controller, but of course that would require some decent patchwork to account for the lack of strumming and all that. (I don't actually WANT the old games to support this, I just tried it out of curiosity)

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!


Not only would Dreams be the best Van Halen song for keyboards, it would be the best Van Halen song period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZLKtjATZt0

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

"I'm sorry, I thought you was Tiger Woods"

"I know. See that mothafuckin' stroke?
Wuh-POW!
...On a bitch! Haha."


Minidust posted:

In case anyone was wondering, the old RB games just see the keyboard as a regular Xbox controller (it thinks you're a vocalist). I tried it in LRB last night. I was wondering if there was any chance of it showing up as a guitar controller, but of course that would require some decent patchwork to account for the lack of strumming and all that. (I don't actually WANT the old games to support this, I just tried it out of curiosity)

Are you kidding? All the Beatles songs I could play...

(Hey Bulldog and Fixing a Hole, to name a few)

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

listerine and mr. green

Well the pro mustang is back in stock on gameshark. Com to get it or to wait on the other guitar?hmm decisions.. know that with the six string i can connect it to an amp, but can I use the amp output while playing the game?

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Hello chiicagooo!

Oh, wait, is that a GameStop employee in the back? Hey, you, give me a refund. No, I don't care if it was my fault, just - look, am I the one with the microphone or not? REFUND, biyotch!

Morter posted:

Are you kidding? All the Beatles songs I could play...

(Hey Bulldog and Fixing a Hole, to name a few)
Ah, perhaps I should rephrase that. I'm not complaining about the old games not supporting the keyboard-as-guitar. I wasn't thinking about The Beatles when I made that post.

Kamoc
Oct 8, 2003

You cannot eat a purse.


Song For The Deaf posted:

My favorite side-effect of playing Rock Band is getting acquainted with songs I otherwise would have never been hip to. I'm thinking specifically of "Portions for Foxes," "Killing Moon," and "Just Like Heaven," which are all working their way onto my iPod and into my daily RB3 sessions.
I love that feeling you get when you're in the middle of playing a song you've never heard before and it's awesome so you really get into it (Them Crooked Vultures - "Dead End Friends", Ida Maria - "Oh My God"). I swear, some songs I would never listen to outside of Rock Band are the most fun to play.

Don't tell anyone but I kind of like "Portions for Foxes"; it reminds me of Neko Case's stuff and she's great (she's got "People Got A Lotta Nerve" as DLC). Also "Just Like Heaven" is totally awesome and if you like The Cure you should check out Siouxsie and the Banshees and New Order DLC.

Where's Arcade Fire? Harmonies, keyboards, great music; seems like a perfect addition to RB3.

D is That Guy
Dec 24, 2004

Yo DJ, drop that bass

Harminoff posted:

Well the pro mustang is back in stock on gameshark. Com to get it or to wait on the other guitar?hmm decisions.. know that with the six string i can connect it to an amp, but can I use the amp output while playing the game?

Pretty sure you can. That's suppose to be the "Free Play Mode" from what I understand. Also I doubt that the sensors and what not that detect what strings you are playing are tied to the pickup/jack.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Has anyone here had a good/bad experience ordering the Pro Guitar from Gameshark.com? It's worth the extra shipping to get it early, but I don't want to get burned like the Newegg deal.

I'm about ready to pull the trigger on the order.

Edit: gently caress it, I pulled the trigger. Worst case scenario, I get it shipped to me on launch day. Best case, I get the drat thing by friday.

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Nov 2, 2010 around 16:07

pksage
Jul 2, 2009

OMPNO EH HEI


Song For The Deaf posted:

Has anyone here had a good/bad experience ordering the Pro Guitar from Gameshark.com? It's worth the extra shipping to get it early, but I don't want to get burned like the Newegg deal.

I'm about ready to pull the trigger on the order.

I ordered mine from them, and they shipped it yesterday to arrive tomorrow. FedEx tracking is following it and everything, so I have no reason to believe it won't show up.

DaWolfey
Oct 24, 2003



Kamoc posted:

Where's Arcade Fire?

I would kill all of you for some Arcade Fire.

All of you.

I mean it.

Migishu
Oct 22, 2005

I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful



What the poo poo Harmonix/Mad Catz, apparently their date of "everything instrument wise should be arriving in Canada for sale on the 2nd Nov" has now turned into "first or second week of Nov".

Why are you dicking us around? I just want to play Pro Guitar

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

Migishu posted:

What the poo poo Harmonix/Mad Catz, apparently their date of "everything instrument wise should be arriving in Canada for sale on the 2nd Nov" has now turned into "first or second week of Nov".

Why are you dicking us around? I just want to play Pro Guitar

Ugh I couldn't stand it anymore and I just cancelled my online order through gamestop.ca and bought it through amazon.com in addition to a couple of other games in that buy 2 games get 1 free promo they have going on right now

edit: bought the game that way and ordered the keyboard as well. Both in stock and for the PS3 at least the game+keyboard is $10 cheaper than my preorder through gamestop. And here I thought I was saving money by getting my pre-order in before they boosted the bundle price through the roof in canada. Hah!

Squibbles fucked around with this message at Nov 2, 2010 around 16:26

Model Camper
Feb 12, 2008

Just 'cause you got a rocking horse don't mean you can rock.

DaWolfey posted:

I would kill all of you for some Jamiroquai.

All of you.

I mean it.

Seriously. Probably four of you realize what we're missing.

You are not exempt.

On topic: I ordered this sans keyboard from Amazon as part of the buy-2-get-1-free deal they've got going on right now. I know it's more expensive to buy the keyboard by itself but I couldn't resist.

I'm guessing I last less than 24 hours with the game in hand before I order the keyboard.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

Model Camper posted:

Seriously. Probably four of you realize what we're missing.

You are not exempt.

On topic: I ordered this sans keyboard from Amazon as part of the buy-2-get-1-free deal they've got going on right now. I know it's more expensive to buy the keyboard by itself but I couldn't resist.

I'm guessing I last less than 24 hours with the game in hand before I order the keyboard.

The keyboard is only like $74 on amazon or something like that! At least on the ps3...

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Some Stevie Wonder could be pretty awesome. We know for a fact that multitracks are available at least as far back as "Superstition", so there's potential.

Model Camper
Feb 12, 2008

Just 'cause you got a rocking horse don't mean you can rock.

Squibbles posted:

The keyboard is only like $74 on amazon or something like that! At least on the ps3...

Freaking $91.29 for 360 right now. This is why the good Lord gave us credit cards.

Kaster Troy
Feb 8, 2010


Song For The Deaf posted:

Has anyone here had a good/bad experience ordering the Pro Guitar from Gameshark.com? It's worth the extra shipping to get it early, but I don't want to get burned like the Newegg deal.

I'm about ready to pull the trigger on the order.

I ordered from there end of the day on Tuesday of last week. It did take a while for processing. They do say up to 2 days. I think it shipped out late Thursday, and I got it yesterday.

I'm not really skilled with a real guitar. But it has been fun last night, going through tutorials and playing some songs on easy pro. Even did pretty good on some medium songs. It is going to take a bit of time to learn (A long time).

Chocolate America
Nov 5, 2008

by garbage day


Sir Lemming posted:

Some Stevie Wonder could be pretty awesome. We know for a fact that multitracks are available at least as far back as "Superstition", so there's potential.

Up until I read this post I had not considered Stevie Wonder for this game but now I want it. A lot.

AeolisCams
Jun 4, 2004
That Other Fat Guy

Kamoc posted:

Ida Maria - "Oh My God"

Crazy -- when I was playing that song for the first time I got the sudden urge to kill myself. (Music tastes )

Hooked up my keyboard to my computer today and was very pleased. A surprisingly competent MIDI controller --- I'm hoping that the Pro Keys/Guitar instuments sell well if for no other reason that they are dirt cheap ways to get into decent MIDI controllers.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


I've got five years of guitar experience, so hopefully I can hop in on Hard. It's likely that I'll be humiliated back down to Medium, though

Now to binge my way through all of the standard guitar and bass goals, since I'll probably never play those again.

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


Song For The Deaf posted:

I've got five years of guitar experience, so hopefully I can hop in on Hard. It's likely that I'll be humiliated back down to Medium, though

Now to binge my way through all of the standard guitar and bass goals, since I'll probably never play those again.

The hard part will be reading the music in Rock Band format. That's what makes playing keyboards difficult, even though I've been playing piano for decades.

vvv EDIT: I figured the wait will be enough for me to learn pro Drums and pro Keybs. vvv

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet


Well, my "No, seriously, I'm going to hold out for the Squier" campaign lasted a full week.

pksage
Jul 2, 2009

OMPNO EH HEI


whypick1 posted:

Well, my "No, seriously, I'm going to hold out for the Squier" campaign lasted a full week.

If you take good care of your controllers, I'm sure you can resell the Mustang to someone before the Squier launches for $70 or more. $80 to play Pro Guitar for 5+ months seems worth it to me!

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006

11 August 1987

pksage posted:

You could with Pro Bass

Oh man, I hadn't even thought about that.

Someone hurry up and post a pro bass video!

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet


pksage posted:

If you take good care of your controllers...

My friends would probably say "no", especially in regards to the drums.

Kamoc
Oct 8, 2003

You cannot eat a purse.


whypick1 posted:

Well, my "No, seriously, I'm going to hold out for the Squier" campaign lasted a full week.
I'm trying to convince myself that getting the Mustang's good because 1. The Mustang's a decent MIDI controller, and 2. You can't play non-pro songs with the Squier.

..but really it's just because I can't wait that long to play pro guitar

Footboy
Feb 3, 2003



D is That Guy posted:

Would be super sweet if it was just a clamp holding them on on either end. I'm also a bit curious as to how much wiggle room you have. $7 bucks for a set of Slinkys, and a wire clipper and you've got strings for a while. Plus if the possibility for actually having the proper string gauge for the correct "String" is there, I'd be a lot more willing to drop on the mustang controller rather than waiting for the Fender.

I do think you'll be hard pressed to break one of the default strings though. I doubt they are under as much tension as they would be on a real guitar, and on top of that I'm guessing all six strings on the mustang are going to be somewhere around a .46 to .52. In 8 years of playing I can count the number of times i've snapped a .52 while playing on one hand.

Well, keep in mind that the Mustang is still a plastic-guitar at heart. I'm not sure how the mechanics of it work and I'm not about to rip and tear the guitar apart to find out. But each string is loose enough that you can almost touch it against the string next to it without moving that string. I don't know what they're made out of it but it feels sturdy.

DrWhiplash
Dec 12, 2003

I was once compared to Steve Francis.

Wanting to play normal songs on the pro controllers seems like an incredibly shortsighted desire to me after playing with the Mustang tbh. You either have to use the first five frets, the first couple of which are as wide as almost two of the regular buttons, or the bottom frets which are all incredibly small. The thought of playing them on the Squier seems even more painful.

If you wanted to do it for the extra challenge you won't be disappointed. If you wanted to do it because you're too lazy to turn on another controller, you're going to have to make some adjustments.

Footboy
Feb 3, 2003



It's more convenient for me to fire up a wireless keyboard or Mustang than to dig out and plug in my Rock Band 1 guitar. :\

VIRGIN HEAT
May 1, 2009



So is the Mustang a good controller then? At least for some comparison to a real leccy guitar.

Like it'll ever come out in the UK at this rate, though.

Kaboobi
Jan 5, 2005

SHAKE IT BABY!
SALT THAT LADY!


The gameshark store has a few in stock now, plus you get 10% off if you subscribe to their newsletter and get the coupon code...

http://store.gameshark.com/viewItem...&idCategory=323

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Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

DrWhiplash posted:

Wanting to play normal songs on the pro controllers seems like an incredibly shortsighted desire to me after playing with the Mustang tbh. You either have to use the first five frets, the first couple of which are as wide as almost two of the regular buttons, or the bottom frets which are all incredibly small. The thought of playing them on the Squier seems even more painful.

If you wanted to do it for the extra challenge you won't be disappointed. If you wanted to do it because you're too lazy to turn on another controller, you're going to have to make some adjustments.

The Squier doesn't support non-pro playing. So the Mustang would be an acceptable transitional instrument I guess. You could play in a group with other people from the huge pool of existent rb songs and also do some pro guitar. With the squier you'd be stuck swapping back and forth at parties or else be forced to play the <100 pro supporting songs rather than the 2000+ regular ones I suppose.

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