Rock Band Megathread: The Second Game With A Real Guitar Controller

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Sibtiger: May 25, 2009

Chocolate America posted:

Oh hey I just noticed something last night on guitar. I was playing Aesthetics of Hate for the first time since RB3 came out and one part of the song has apparently been re-charted! There used to be a back-and-forth section (I don't know the name of it in practice mode) that used to make you strum every note, and when I played it last night that section was all ho/pos. Has anyone else noticed this in any other song?

There was a discussion about this before- AoH was supposed to be charted that way all along, there was an mistake in setting the threshold for what constitutes a hammer-on and what doesn't that made it super low. They fixed it in RB3 somehow, but pretty sure its the only song where that happened.

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# ? May 22, 2013 01:16

Chocolate America: Nov 5, 2008; by garbage day

Thanks for the answers guys. I'm gonna go back and try Visions again to see if that really fast section that you have to strum is still in there.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 21:41

whypick1: Dec 18, 2009; Just another jackass on the Internet

Chocolate America posted:

Thanks for the answers guys. I'm gonna go back and try Visions again to see if that really fast section that you have to strum is still in there.

Those are intentional.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 21:44

blue.eyed.ash: Jul 17, 2006; auditory jihad

whypick1 posted:

Those are intentional.

Not to mention that Visions doesn't export to Rock Band 3.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 21:52

Chairchucker: Nov 14, 2006; The man was stunningly well dressed. He had a smart looking jacket, and a really neat looking cape, the lining of which was shimmering and sparkling in more than Oriental splendour, which is a great deal of splendour indeed, just ask Kipling.

Chocolate America posted:

Thanks for the answers guys. I'm gonna go back and try Visions again to see if that really fast section that you have to strum is still in there.

Also, you don't have access to Visions in RB3.

Edit: >:(

# ? Nov 8, 2010 21:53

Gaspar Lewis: Nov 30, 2007; You can't get on the frequency that I'm on, you dumb son of a bitch!

Chairchucker posted:

Also, you don't have access to Visions in RB3.

Yet.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 21:53

Chocolate America: Nov 5, 2008; by garbage day

Chairchucker posted:

Also, you don't have access to Visions in RB3.

Edit: >

I thought it was just the 5 on-disc RB2 songs they announced when RB3 came out.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 21:57

AeolisCams: Jun 4, 2004; That Other Fat Guy

Gaspar Lewis posted:

Yet.

I tried to hold off on the inaugural 1-lighter until Visions came around but "Oh My God" took that cake. I'm still dedicating my 1-lighter section to Visions, though.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 21:58

Asnorban: Jun 13, 2003; Professor Gavelsmoke

I can't believe by any metrics applied by any personal opinion that "Oh My God" is comparable to "Visions".

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:01

whypick1: Dec 18, 2009; Just another jackass on the Internet

Chocolate America posted:

I thought it was just the 5 on-disc RB2 songs they announced when RB3 came out.

The 9 tracks from HMX bands are coming back as a free pack "soon".

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:01

Bubble-T: Dec 26, 2004; You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.

I can't be the only one who 1-lightered Outer Space because that song sounds so awful.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:04

Infidel Castro: Jun 8, 2010; WHATCHA GONNA DO, BROTHER?!

Lucid Delusion posted:

I saw some talk about Antibodies on the page before this. So far, it's the only song I've one lightered, and it was purely out of frustration from trying to play it on hard and expert keys. I just couldn't get the rhythm down. A subsequent play and similar results led to the rating. How is it on other instruments?

That was me. I can only beat it on Vocals at Expert, and I'm normally poo poo at vocals. I just seem to have the perfect vocal range for the song. Bass is loving brutal, Guitar is much harder than it's rating indicates (Tier 2 my rear end), and Keys are a bitch too. Haven't done expert drums, but I suck at drums.

It's too bad, because Antibodies is a loving awesome song.

Infidel Castro fucked around with this message at Nov 8, 2010 around 22:07

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:05

Slim Killington: Nov 16, 2007; I SAID GOOD DAY SIR

Asnorban posted:

I can't believe by any metrics applied by any personal opinion that "Oh My God" is comparable to "Visions".

It's not comparable by sound, but it's certainly comparable to me in terms of how soon I want to hear it again, which is "never." That song, like half of the on-disc songs, got a single lighter from me. HMX dropped the ball hard with RB3's on-disc offerings.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:10

Kaboobi: Jan 5, 2005; SHAKE IT BABY!
SALT THAT LADY!

Bubble-T posted:

I can't be the only one who 1-lightered Outer Space because that song sounds so awful.

Official pro-tier of 1 lightered songs: http://img.waffleimages.com/bfbbf94...02010%20053.JPG

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:12

Dog Fat Man Chaser: Jan 13, 2009

Just got my cymbals hooked up, so I'm available to try pro-drums sometime! avmachine on Live.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:17

Infidel Castro: Jun 8, 2010; WHATCHA GONNA DO, BROTHER?!

Asnorban posted:

I can't believe by any metrics applied by any personal opinion that "Oh My God" is comparable to "Visions".

"Oh My God" just has lovely lyrics. "Visions" is just a musical abortion.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:17

Chocolate America: Nov 5, 2008; by garbage day

whypick1 posted:

The 9 tracks from HMX bands are coming back as a free pack "soon".

Ah crap I forgot about the HMX bands. There's too much stuff to remember with this game!

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:20

naginalJJ: Feb 10, 2007; Baby, looks like a dance epidemic to me
I'm seeing things I thought I'd never see
Dance epidemic tonight

Hope I'm not too late to the gamertag party. Mine is NaginalJJ. I play just about everything on expert and I have ~1600 songs. Also, I only have silver so it's pretty much just gonna be leaderboard stuff. Already adding just about everyone here so far so just add me if you want. It'd be nice to not be the only one in my friends list that plays Rock Band.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:24

Lucid Delusion: Dec 23, 2009; You're merely postponing the inevitable.

Kaboobi posted:

Official pro-tier of 1 lightered songs: http://img.waffleimages.com/bfbbf94...02010%20053.JPG

I didn't like it at first, but I've warmed up to "Killing Loneliness" as well as "Foolin'". I pretty much agree with the rest though. Nice job on gold starring those as well.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:28

priznat: Jul 7, 2009; Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Late to the party but feel free to add me, priznat to your 360 list of e-pals. At the very least you'll be assured of having someone on your list who is in no danger of beating your highscore!

No drums right now (temporary) and I mostly like to play bass (because I suck). I have a pretty wide selection of DLC however it does include P.O.D.'s "Alive", a guilty pleasure I will not apologize for!

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:36

toppro: Jun 19, 2006

Kaboobi posted:

Official pro-tier of 1 lightered songs: http://img.waffleimages.com/bfbbf94...02010%20053.JPG

Fooling? What's wrong with you?

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:48

Kaboobi: Jan 5, 2005; SHAKE IT BABY!
SALT THAT LADY!

toppro posted:

Fooling? What's wrong with you?

Def Leppard sucks.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:49

whypick1: Dec 18, 2009; Just another jackass on the Internet

Kaboobi posted:

Def Leppard sucks.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with this statement.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 22:53

Brocktoon: Jul 18, 2006; Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Kaboobi posted:

Def Leppard sucks.

This is a fact that can be backed up by science.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:03

El Destructo: Jul 28, 2004; The football is in my path. In eight seconds' time, she pulls it away. I'm already lying there, twelve seconds into the future.

Kaboobi posted:

Def Leppard sucks.

whypick1 posted:

There's absolutely nothing wrong with this statement.

Who do you think Bang Camaro ~~ripped off~~ modeled themselves after?

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:05

Minimaul: Mar 8, 2003; Reach between your legs, feel around for a bit. Do you feel balls? If the answer is "yes":
sack up and sever.

Brocktoon posted:

This is a fact that can be backed up by science.

Yeah and the drums are stupid easy on that song. I can play it with one arm.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:05

Kaboobi: Jan 5, 2005; SHAKE IT BABY!
SALT THAT LADY!

Minimaul posted:

Yeah and the drums are stupid easy on that song. I can play it with one arm.

Rick Allen hadn't lost his arm when Pyromania was recorded

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:09

Minimaul: Mar 8, 2003; Reach between your legs, feel around for a bit. Do you feel balls? If the answer is "yes":
sack up and sever.

Kaboobi posted:

Rick Allen hadn't lost his arm when Pyromania was recorded

Well, I don't know the history of Def Leppard or Rick Allen - didn't even know his name till I googled it right after I posted the comment. I just couldn't leave a one-armed drummer joke unsaid.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:11

Infidel Castro: Jun 8, 2010; WHATCHA GONNA DO, BROTHER?!

Kaboobi posted:

Rick Allen hadn't lost his arm when Pyromania was recorded

I'm sure he'd applaud you for being so on-the-ball with the Def Leppard history.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:14

Kaboobi: Jan 5, 2005; SHAKE IT BABY!
SALT THAT LADY!

Nachtsturm posted:

I'm sure he'd applaud you for being so on-the-ball with the Def Leppard history.

I also know that he uses a lot of foot pedals to compensate for his lack of arm!
That's about it though

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:17

Bubble-T: Dec 26, 2004; You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.

Kaboobi posted:

Rick Allen hadn't lost his arm when Pyromania was recorded

That's some great forward thinking.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:17

weekly font: Dec 1, 2004; WOO
WOO
WOO

You know it!

Minimaul posted:

I just couldn't leave a one-armed drummer joke unsaid.

DRUM AWAY
DRUM AWAY
SEND poo poo MUSIC
FROM THE ONE ARMED DRUMMER

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:19

TUS: Feb 19, 2003; I'm going to stab you. Offline. With a real knife.

El Destructo posted:

Who do you think Bang Camaro ~~ripped off~~ modeled themselves after?

good bands?

vvv

that hurts

TUS fucked around with this message at Nov 8, 2010 around 23:27

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:22

whypick1: Dec 18, 2009; Just another jackass on the Internet

El Destructo posted:

Who do you think Bang Camaro ~~ripped off~~ modeled themselves after?

I don't like Bang Camaro at all and I believe I've told you this.

Them aping Def Leppard does make sense though.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:22

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; 11 August 1987

Song For The Deaf posted:

Stray observations about Pro Guitar, after and afternoon and evening of playing with it.

- Pro Guitar is the lamest way possible to feel really, really cool.
- Hard seems to be my Goldilocks difficulty for right now. Medium confuses me because of the under-charting, and expert is a lot to ask of someone who's never played many of these songs on a real guitar before.
- A great deal of my experience on real guitar has transferred over. 5 years is enough time to know what you're doing, but I've also developed plenty of bad habits. Since I mostly play folk stuff, the easiest lessons in the trainer had to do with open chords, barre chords, and moving around with notes inside a chord. Other stuff took some doing.
- The "Train Song" option is invaluable for Pro Guitar. If there's a strange chord you could never be expected to know, you can enable an option to halt everything when you miss it, and it walks you through the positioning you need. Also, it lets you peek at the main components of a song, so you don't go into it blind. Please, train on a song before trying it out. It will be much more enjoyable.
- Solos kill me, because I don't have an incredibly strong grasp of many different scales. I've had to straight-up memorize every solo I've played. Reading it as it goes by is way, way too difficult right now.
- In general, it's best for me to alternate between looking at the screen and looking at my hands. Because of the Mustang's limitations, it's a crapshoot whether or not you can tell where your hand is just by feel alone, and I'm not yet used to the interface.
- Pro Guitar is not about learning how to play music games, it's about approaching the whole song and saying "I'm going to learn this fucker." I've played for about 4 hours today, and I've only cleared about half of the songs in the first two tiers, mostly by the skin of my teeth.
- My face hurts from smiling so much after nailing difficult parts of a song. This usually comes after 10 minutes "plink plink"-ing in the Trainer.
- The Pro Guitar "Learn an Instrument" is much more useful and well thought-out than the keys trainer is. I may or may not think this due to my previous experience with guitar.
- The whole philosophy of this experiment actually works. I managed to sit down and play a stripped down version of the solo from "The Killing Moon" on my electric guitar, and it didn't sound half bad.

That's a long list, and most of those points are probably obvious. I heartily recommend the Mustang to everyone, even those who are waiting on the Squier. It changes almost everything about this game for me, and sticking with standard guitar is like owning a gigantic mansion but choosing only to live in the foyer.

EDIT: Two additional notes.

- This is work. More than drums, even, Pro Guitar is about sitting down, gutting it out, and powering through the suck. I can foresee a lot of people getting very discouraged. It's kind of like real guitar, actually.
- I was skeptical about the interface as a whole, but in all, I can't think of a better way to present that much information. The shorthand that Harmonix has developed is nothing short of brilliant, in my opinion. If I had two "wants," they would be an option to see horizontal tablature, and staff notation. They would be quite niche, but learning to read tabs/sheet music properly would make the skills taught in RB3 much more transferable.

Thanks this is awesome. I'm waiting for the Squire, but good to know it's fun with the Mustang!

FishBulb posted:

Is there a cheaper keyboard stand than the official one?

TV tray?

The DJ Hero stand you get with the spec edition works well. It's just a cheap projector stand, so you can get one of those instead if you want something durable. Normal musician keyboard stands don't work that well since the keytar is so small, a flat surface is much better.

Liks this, but you can get them for much cheaper than the DA-Lite one on Amazon.

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# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:35

davebo: Nov 15, 2006; Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito

Edit: ^^ hey there da-lite stands, I know you well.

I mean, I have a special place in my heart for music from Hysteria because that's what was on the radio when I... well got my first radio. But Def Leppard isn't one of those bands I feel the need to spread the word about to younger friends. And I can't say I feel proud when I hear Pour Some Sugar On Me overplayed at every low-end wedding I attend.

# ? Nov 8, 2010 23:37