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Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


I'm ranked #1 on "Gravity (Don't Let Me Go)," better known as the theme song for the Joystiq podcast. The crappy part is, it was charted before the authoring requirements for RBN were solidified. The main beat of the song is a kind of disco beat, with the blue tom instead of the hi-hat. The blue lane is instead charted to the cymbal, which fucks up my arm crossing. It really threw me for a loop, and it makes one of my favorite songs in the game nearly unplayable.

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Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


I was listening to an old episode of You Look Nice Today, and realized that I MUST have "Tighten Up" by Archie Bell and the Drells in this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wro3bqi4Eb8

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Working hard to learn and beat "Imagine" on expert pro keys, then grinning from ear to ear after I nailed the final chord, reminded me why I love music games.

Yes, the keyboard is worth it.

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Edit: It baffles me that someone could say that there's a lack of content in this game. The story mode is special playlists with special goals, that help you achieve other goals laid out for you. Did you want a quest to revive the demigod of rock and his magical obsidian keytar?

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Oct 30, 2010 around 17:57

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


The story in Rock Band is "you play songs, you get better at songs." RB3 gives you more songs, and more instruments to get better at. More combinations of instruments to play the game with your friends. It improves the interface so you can easily ascertain which songs you need to get better at, and how. It lets you filter and sort so you can most easily play and enjoy the songs you really like, and ignore any that are loathsome to you.

That you miss moving a cursor up and down a list of cities and venues, as opposed to just playing the songs you'd like, (sorry to overuse the word) baffles me. There's a lot of game here.

Edit: Instruments and venues are window dressing. Whether or not it's important to you, let's at least agree that they have little to do with the GAME aside from your aesthetic appreciation of the package as a whole.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Shredder posted:

it's not like the cast of Gears of War is coming out and sucking each other off in HD

I think we've figured out what hitting every note with Awesomeness Detection on will get you.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


What's the drumming technique used in "Roundabout"s bridge?

I'm not a bad drummer (in the game), but I can't for the life of me crack that bridge on Expert Pro drums. The closest trainer I can find is a lesson on paradiddles, but it doesn't seem quite right.

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Oct 31, 2010 around 01:40

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


That's what I'm doing, but for some reason I can't parse the pattern between the two of them. I think it's the drags that get me, since my tendency is to alternate between them, even when the chart doesn't call for that (there are phrases where it does). Should I just labor to get more limb independence? I don't know how much more independent they can get without hopping off of my body and getting an apartment for themselves.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Thanks FP. It was the paradiddlediddle that was throwing me off. I'll try it tomorrow, when my roommates aren't asleep.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Does anyone know when Microsoft will be handing out the bonus 800 points for spending $30 in October? I bought Super Meat Boy to round out my total, and I'm chomping at the bit to finally get my RB2 export on.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Behonkiss posted:



Add this to the OP. Thanks in advance.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


I don't understand how people can 100% Gold Star a sight read either. I think a lot of it is YouTube dick waving, to be honest.

Knowing the song helps, since strange rhythms can trip you up more than which buttons the game is telling you to press. For me, getting good is 1 part memorization, and 2 parts just playing the game a lot.

VVVVVVVV
The nerves thing is what gets me. If I'm relaxed and in a groove, I can 5* pretty much anything. The second I start worrying about maintaining a streak, I make a brain dead mistake that messes me up for a few measures. I guess it's performance anxiety, so I don't worry about score too often. This results in me falling rear end-backwards into gold stars, and feeling pleasantly surprised.

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2010 around 03:26

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Bubble-T posted:

It somehow looks even worse than I expected. Even the graphics, animations, camera angles etc. are just abysmal

It really makes me appreciate Rock Band's presentation. I tend to forget how many smart, effective decisions were made in its design. The whole thing looks like an iPhone game, and that vertical note chart is just a nightmare to read.

Edit: "Smart design choices" arguably excluding the chart transparency, which I can't be un-bothered by now that so many people have mentioned it.

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2010 around 10:49

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Wutasumi posted:

they took out every worthwhile song from RB2.

"Alex Chilton" would like to have a word with you.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


My favorite side-effect of playing Rock Band is getting acquainted with songs I otherwise would have never been hip to. I'm thinking specifically of "Portions for Foxes," "Killing Moon," and "Just Like Heaven," which are all working their way onto my iPod and into my daily RB3 sessions.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Did I commit some kind of faux pas by not liking the right songs?

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


I'd heard "Just Like Heaven" before, but playing it in the game made me appreciate it more. Now I can say I genuinely "like" it (that's a 5 lighter rating, by the way).

As for the on-disc songs, there was a lot of "who the hell is that?" initially. That quickly gave way to "oh, that song!"s and "I can understand why they chose this from a gameplay/stylistic standpoint." In general, all I want from the on-disc songs is for Harmonix to teach me how to play (especially with the keyboard and pro guitars). I can embellish that with DLC, and fill out my tracks with songs I absolutely love.

Would I have loved a disc track list of nothing but Okkervil River, Shearwater, Wilco, and Neil Young? Absolutely. But that isn't going to happen, so I'll take it as an opportunity to broaden my horizons and just enjoy the goddamn game.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Has anyone here had a good/bad experience ordering the Pro Guitar from Gameshark.com? It's worth the extra shipping to get it early, but I don't want to get burned like the Newegg deal.

I'm about ready to pull the trigger on the order.

Edit: gently caress it, I pulled the trigger. Worst case scenario, I get it shipped to me on launch day. Best case, I get the drat thing by friday.

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Nov 2, 2010 around 16:07

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


I've got five years of guitar experience, so hopefully I can hop in on Hard. It's likely that I'll be humiliated back down to Medium, though

Now to binge my way through all of the standard guitar and bass goals, since I'll probably never play those again.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


How are people storing their fake plastic instruments? Right now I'm stowing everything behind my TV, but I'd like to find a more elegant, less dusty/tangled solution.

Ideally, I'd like to hang them up for easy access. Thoughts?

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


$280 is much more reasonable than I'd imagined.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Ranked #1 on the Pro Drums leader board for "Saturday Morning" by the Eels. Goddamn, that song is fun to play. I'd love more Eels, but I'm hard pressed to think of which songs would be good for the game.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Luce posted:

So I share with you all, there is no shame in using No-Fail. It takes the pressure off. Like a nice Rock Band massage.

I'm discovering this as well. I turned No Fail on because failing is not fun, and I play Rock Band to have fun. I like the idea of phasing failure out, and having your score be the main determining factor of your success.

In general, playing in No Fail mode helps me do better. You can probably say it's because I suck, and on some songs you'd be right. However, I have a better shot of (eventually) doing well at a song when I can see the whole chart, as opposed to failing out at 10%. Practice mode isn't the same to me, for some reason.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


I drum socks only. Sometimes with thick socks in the winter. If there's anything more than that between my foot and the pedal, my game is thrown off.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


That was quick. I ordered my Mustang from MadCatz today, and it shipped about an hour later. It's projected to arrive on thursday.

And, whoever suggested "Fresh Blood" by the Eels is a genius. I tend to forget about songs from the more recent albums, and not very much from "Electroshock Blues" would work very well.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Buffychat has inspired me to make the Serenity crew my backing band.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


A question for my fellow Madcatz Pro Drum owners: Are there any solutions for getting the hi-hat to the left of the snare? The best I can get is having the two be parallel, but that's kind of uncomfortable. Any hacks or suggestions you might offer?

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Times like these make me glad I don't work during the day on weekdays. My Mustang is at the sorting facility right now, and it will be here tomorrow. The earlier, the better. I don't want to have to wait until 5pm to play this drat thing.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


It's like the intro to "Revolution," if it lasted the duration of a 5 minute song.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


The dumbest keyboard question in the world: Okay, so I'm playing a chord that has those nasty flats and sharps in it, but there's a white note in there messing everything up. Is it a no-no to strike the white key up in the narrow part, closer to the back, between the flats and sharps, or should I contort my hand to make it work so I'm hitting the broadest part of the key in the center?

I assume it's a no-no to put my thumb on the middle note of a chord, stretching/crossing my index finger over to hit a black key if it's lower than the white key.

I only ask these seemingly asinine questions because I don't want to develop bad habits that I'll spend lots of time unlearning down the road.

Hopefully I'm making myself clear.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


My Mustang was dropped off about 25 minutes ago. After playing a few tutorials to get the hang of the interface, I was dancing around my room like a fool while playing "The Hardest Button to Button" on Expert Pro.

This is the tits, guys. I'm having a moment here.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Stray observations about Pro Guitar, after and afternoon and evening of playing with it.

- Pro Guitar is the lamest way possible to feel really, really cool.
- Hard seems to be my Goldilocks difficulty for right now. Medium confuses me because of the under-charting, and expert is a lot to ask of someone who's never played many of these songs on a real guitar before.
- A great deal of my experience on real guitar has transferred over. 5 years is enough time to know what you're doing, but I've also developed plenty of bad habits. Since I mostly play folk stuff, the easiest lessons in the trainer had to do with open chords, barre chords, and moving around with notes inside a chord. Other stuff took some doing.
- The "Train Song" option is invaluable for Pro Guitar. If there's a strange chord you could never be expected to know, you can enable an option to halt everything when you miss it, and it walks you through the positioning you need. Also, it lets you peek at the main components of a song, so you don't go into it blind. Please, train on a song before trying it out. It will be much more enjoyable.
- Solos kill me, because I don't have an incredibly strong grasp of many different scales. I've had to straight-up memorize every solo I've played. Reading it as it goes by is way, way too difficult right now.
- In general, it's best for me to alternate between looking at the screen and looking at my hands. Because of the Mustang's limitations, it's a crapshoot whether or not you can tell where your hand is just by feel alone, and I'm not yet used to the interface.
- Pro Guitar is not about learning how to play music games, it's about approaching the whole song and saying "I'm going to learn this fucker." I've played for about 4 hours today, and I've only cleared about half of the songs in the first two tiers, mostly by the skin of my teeth.
- My face hurts from smiling so much after nailing difficult parts of a song. This usually comes after 10 minutes "plink plink"-ing in the Trainer.
- The Pro Guitar "Learn an Instrument" is much more useful and well thought-out than the keys trainer is. I may or may not think this due to my previous experience with guitar.
- The whole philosophy of this experiment actually works. I managed to sit down and play a stripped down version of the solo from "The Killing Moon" on my electric guitar, and it didn't sound half bad.

That's a long list, and most of those points are probably obvious. I heartily recommend the Mustang to everyone, even those who are waiting on the Squier. It changes almost everything about this game for me, and sticking with standard guitar is like owning a gigantic mansion but choosing only to live in the foyer.

EDIT: Two additional notes.

- This is work. More than drums, even, Pro Guitar is about sitting down, gutting it out, and powering through the suck. I can foresee a lot of people getting very discouraged. It's kind of like real guitar, actually.
- I was skeptical about the interface as a whole, but in all, I can't think of a better way to present that much information. The shorthand that Harmonix has developed is nothing short of brilliant, in my opinion. If I had two "wants," they would be an option to see horizontal tablature, and staff notation. They would be quite niche, but learning to read tabs/sheet music properly would make the skills taught in RB3 much more transferable.

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Nov 5, 2010 around 04:44

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


"20th Century Boy" is amazingly fun on Pro Guitar. Full stop.

Edit: If you want to add me, I'm SongForTheDeaf on XBL. I don't have Gold, but I will gladly measure my penis against yours on the leader boards.

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Nov 6, 2010 around 21:35

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Tonight was my first time ever doing harmonies on vocals, and I'm completely dumbfounded by how fun it is. I know I'm very late to the party, but goddamn does that make parties fun.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Do you have the clamps around the metal legs of the drum set? I initially made the mistake of trying that, when in reality they are supposed to fit snugly around the plastic cylinder that the metal legs go into. There is a ridge around the opening that the clamps will sit nicely on. That should stop them from wandering on you.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


We can't forget that they're also picking these songs for how they play in the game. "The Con" is a blast with harmony vocals, and "Something Bigger, Something Brighter" is a case study in the difference between the difficulty in Standard Guitar and Pro Guitar charts.

The nice side effect of music games is learning to appreciate music you otherwise would not have exposed yourself to. DLC exists for you to sculpt your library, and the disc songs are there to show off the features of the game.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Scaramouche posted:

That said, children of the obscure 90s why the hell isn't there any goddamn Wilco in this game? I'll take anything christ, even something nonsensical like Summer Teeth.

Seconded. Give me "Impossible Germany," and anything off of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot or Wilco the Album and I'd be very, very happy. I was shocked when they weren't included in the fantastic Alt-Country pack, because Wilco practically invented the term.

That said: why hasn't there been any more alt-country?

Edit: VVVVV It was more of a rhetorical question, akin to "Why do bad things happen to good people?"

Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at Nov 9, 2010 around 15:36

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


If you're reading this thread and own an Xbox 360, I just bought a 3 month Gold card so I can play with YOU.

Once more, my username is SongForTheDeaf and I have all of the pro instruments, play most things on expert, and play everything in a mediocre fashion.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


In case you didn't catch my revision before, I'm still SongForTheDeaf, and the only difference is that I now have Gold.

I have all of the pro instruments, and enjoy them equally.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


Brocktoon posted:

Dude, I had fun playing with you last night, but you need to do something about the constant crackling of your mic.

I wasn't aware that was a problem It's probably because I was playing drums, and it was picking up my hits.

Also, I apologize for not realizing that I was the leader. It was my first time playing RB3 online. For all of the great things about this game's interface, there are still some things that mystify me.

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Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.


HKR posted:

Learning saxophone was way easier then learning guitar.

Think of it this way: When you learn guitar, you can play the majority of popular music.

With saxophone, you have "Careless Whisper" and that song from Dirty Dancing.

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