Rock Band Megathread: The Second Game With A Real Guitar Controller

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ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

edit: The code is taken!

ALFbrot fucked around with this message at Oct 26, 2010 around 13:12

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 12:01

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 16:29

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Methodis I continue to be impressed by the fact that every conversation you start in a Rock Band thread manages to be stupid in a new and unique way.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 13:33

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

So wait. To take advantage of a previously totally unprecedented game content offer, rife with licensing headaches and dozens of different entities trying to wring from it as much money as possible, I need to KEEP my copy of the old GAME and then also not get it for ABSOLUTELY FREE but instead for the price of FIVE OTHER SONGS??

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 13:39

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

DrWhiplash posted:

PROTIP: Hold on to your Rock Band 3 manuals.

Whoops, too late! I already threw mine into the incinerator!

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 13:43

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Utnayan posted:

any smart publisher would have thought to make those publisher transparant across sequels in a better bundle.

Or they did and it's another DLC revenue stream.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 14:09

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Astro7x posted:

Oh thank god...

I have a friend that gave this code away because he didn't want the indy songs cluttering up his playlist. Could they make that page any more unclear that the code is also used to export RB2 in the future?

The decision to make it the export key was likely made afterwards.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 14:47

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

I would be more inclined to believe the lead designer of Rock Band 2 than you, Utnayan, but maybe that's just me!

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 15:00

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Methodis posted:

The game crashes more than FO:NV for me. That's a bad thing.

Pro Keys is pretty hard but fun. I'm not really gelling with the tablature, which makes me wish they did somekind of "here's all the notes in the song, memorize them and then play it out" instead of relying on sight reading, and you can't (or atleast I haven't been able to figure it out), stop a song on a certain section to examine notes.

Just small gripes though.

Where does it crash. Perhaps you should read the threads!

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 16:16

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Minimaul posted:

Deleted songs don't show up at all, so I don't even have to look at them, or think about them. Or see them in my list of songs and feel obligated to play them cause it has no stars or to curse it's name when I annoyingly scroll past it on my drums.

You can't delete the songs individually on 360, except the RB1 export.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 17:39

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Vidmaster posted:

Generally speaking it is not worth paying attention to anything anyone with beatles avatars says. They should work without any issues.

Actually, I believe the conversation was about those microphones that have controller guts built-in. Those wouldn't work, because they need to connect as a controller.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 18:49

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Boll Weevil posted:

The Mad Catz M.I.C. has a toggle on it to disable the controller part of it so it'll just be a mic, iirc.

Oh, well there you go, then!

Jesus this work day needs to end so I can take this keyboard bundle home.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 18:54

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Eegah posted:

Dumb 360 question that I'm 99% sure of, but once you export RB1 and 2 you don't need the actual games still installed on the hard drive, right?

Implying that I didn't really need to keep RB1 on the HD either

Correct.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 20:32

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

sertman posted:

I'm not getting this game, lack of X+ and score duel were dealbreakers for me. Sucks, but oh well, hope everyone else enjoys it.

X+?

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 21:13

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Gaspar Lewis posted:

("X+" means "double bass charting". Resume laughing.)

Hahahahahaha

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 21:18

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Well, for the sake of the thread I would change it to "Rock Band: NOBODY KNOWS WHEN THE MIDI BOX AND SQUIER ARE COMING OUT"

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 21:22

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Methodis posted:

Thanks.

What's the progression most people are taking? I am stupidly starting on expert pro keys and taking the songs I really want to know through the Learn a Song, but I know that's pretty bad. Wondering what difficulty others are starting on.

You're like a prizefighter of stupid ideas, you never get tired and you just keep swinging away and knocking us all out with dumb things.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 22:32

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Hey guys, which way are you holding your keyboards? I'm stupidly just holding mine by gripping the neck with my left fist, pointing the key-side towards me, and jabbing at the keys with my free index finger individually. Just trying to get an idea of how you guys are doing it.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2010 22:41

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

RedneckwithGuns posted:

Sometimes I forget how much fun I can have with the logo designer.

I love this. I spend too much time in the art maker as well. But most of that is spent SCROLLING DOWN AN IMPOSSIBLY LONG LIST WITH THAT DOESN'T WRAP AROUND WITH NO PAGE-DOWN FEATURE TO GET TO A FONT THAT IS ALL THE WAY AT THE loving END FUUUUCK

They fix so much poo poo, change other weird poo poo for no apparent reason, and then leave that horrible horrible interface largely alone. Why.

Game still rules, though.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 12:01

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

pksage posted:

As far as I can tell, the only reason for this is so that it's less obvious that there's not a guitarist, bassist, and keyboardist on stage at once (which the rendering engine doesn't support). The bassist still gets bumped in AIM, but it's much harder to notice when it's a CRAAAAAZY music video in the background.

People complain most about the things dearest to them; if it was a bad game, people wouldn't have cared about the bugs.

He didn't say it was a bad game, he said it was a poorly handled release. Which it kind of is. Just look at people stumbling into the thread, confused about when they can get their MIDI box or pro guitars, finding out (in some regions) that it's pushed back a week, not knowing how to export and then thinking they did it wrong because of the server issues, etc.

I know there's about a billion things that can go wrong and cause these issues, and I have sympathy for Harmonix. But it's still not incredibly hard to be like "Hey, the MIDI box is coming out in November."

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 14:13

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Methodis posted:

Not to go off topic but why would you have sympathy for a multimillion dollar company? I could understand if they were still a indie developer, back in 1998.

Because maybe I also work for a reasonably large company with big software deadlines. I know that they want to fix everything and deliver everything they can, but for one reason or another, they can't right now. It's a lovely feeling and I've been there, thus sympathy.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 14:33

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Also I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but last night I went into the RBN store and almost half the tracks said "Not Currently Available"

Is that just due to server hiccups as well?

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 15:21

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

It's strange hearing these complaints, because this is the first Rock Band game where I can sing at a pretty good volume and not get clipped all to hell and sound terrible through the speakers.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 17:54

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

ApexAftermath posted:

Automatic only in AIM? Because I was able to change the sensitivity it when I had a controller signed in for the mic,

Are you sure you were adjusting the sensitivity or the volume?

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 18:36

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Methodis posted:

Yes, because purchasing something that was advertised with the promise of being able to play it in Rock Band 3 and all future titles is not a lie, and totally not worthy of a class action lawsuit.

This is legitimately the most correct thing you've posted.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 18:59

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Methodis posted:

The difference is we know which tracks won't play in Lego Rock Band and that DLC doesn't work in ACDC. No one knew about any of these missing DLC until RB3 launched, when they were removed from marketplace, rockband.com and the game, after when you purchased it you were told that they were compatible with future games. And what about people who are just getting into Rock Band 3, took a look at the music stores prior hand (which you can, because there's individual "apps" for exploring them) and purchased these songs expecting them not to all of a sudden dissapear?

If you ever have your hardware die out, won't you be mad that you can never get those songs again? Especially since you paid for them?

All they have to do is give refunds and that will be fine, but if they play this Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil thing, then that's unacceptable.

Actually it's pretty much acceptable! That thing you quoted doesn't say ANYWHERE that the DLC will be compatible with any future games. Or are you saying that it should say that it might NOT work?

My Mass Effect DLC doesn't work with Mass Effect 2, but it doesn't say that it won't in the description! Suck on this class-action lawsuit, Bioware!!!

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 19:38

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

But that's not part of any purchase agreement. The website could say "All your DLC will make you sprout a vagina filled with toads on your chest" and they wouldn't need to make that happen.

(and also technically ALL the songs DO have pro drums, whether or not you can use them in a game with Pro Drums as a mode.)

edit: I wonder if there's some escape clause from a lawsuit if you make a statement that is only ~99.75% true.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2010 19:48

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

He's saying that he has a used copy, so he never had an export code.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2010 18:34

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Except the guy who decided not to make it easier to scroll to the generic shapes and letters in the art editor. gently caress that guy.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2010 19:49

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Dr. Lariat posted:

I promise this will be my only songs for Rock band post ever but since we now have keys and back-up vocal support we require these two songs to show the features off.

Breaking Out
Keep Quiet

REQUIRE! these songs I said.

They would almost certainly be an RBN band rather than normal DLC. RBN doesn't have keys and harmonies yet, and also the Protomen are not happy with how much of a cut they have to give up of the money. They said "maybe someday"

# ¿ Oct 29, 2010 16:09

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Kaboobi posted:

The Protomen are coming to RBN2.0, but I can't discuss what songs are gonna be coming out.

This has made me very happy this day.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2010 19:36

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

setafd posted:

so what's up with the leaderboard? I just did not so great on Leaving Here by the Who and I'm #2, apparently? this is some bullshit

The game has been out for 3 days and there are over 2,100 songs. Maybe not a whole lot of people have been playing that song.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2010 21:53

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Spiderguy186 posted:

I actually haven't considered that, how hard is it for other key players? Anybody sharing experience would be nice, either with or against my argument of it being too easy.

It is not too easy.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2010 21:45

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Eegah posted:

I don't have Pro guitar or bass and wasn't planning on buying either so it doesn't affect me per se but I'm mostly irked that apparently most songs won't have the charts even available for purchase if this is any indication.

That is an absurd amount of work for content that about 5% of the player base will even be able to use, and even then not all of that 5% would want every song.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2010 15:54

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Kaboobi posted:

welp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ri-...eature=youtu.be

What. Why? That is awful.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2010 16:58

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

John Romero posted:

The real question here is would you trade Methodis for Butrosbomb? I think I would.

Oh, no. God, god no. Nooo no no.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2010 13:38

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

whypick1 posted:

Wait, I'm 4th? I'm not sure if I should be proud or ashamed of this.

Why pick one?

# ¿ Nov 16, 2010 17:54

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Methodis posted:

What about the after effect of realizing Kokomo isn't in the game and they picked Good Vibrations over it?

Please make a post in SAS so I can request a ban for you because you advocate listening to Kokomo over such things as committing suicide or razoring your eyeballs. Kokomo is the second worst song of all time, only slightly behind River of Dreams, and this is from somebody that really likes both the Beach Boys and Billy Joel.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2010 18:23

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

The Ramones wrote a song once, then they played it 300 times and called it different things

Methodis posted:

It's because it doesn't have Brian Wilson in it. If he contributed something no one would hate it.

I didn't even know Brian Wilson wasn't involved. I just hate it because it is awful dreck that assaults any reasonable idea of musicality or taste

# ¿ Dec 2, 2010 04:55

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Brocktoon posted:

The Billy Joel pack started an argument between MY WIFE and me. She insists that We Didn't Start The Fire is unequivocally Billy Joel's worst song and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I argue that while it isn't a *good* song, it doesn't even come close to the awfulness of Uptown Girl. (In fact, I would argue that An Innocent Man is an entire album of songs worse than We Didn't Start The Fire.)

What's interesting is that when we went looking for support, everyone we asked (without prompting, other than "What's Billy Joel's worst song?") immediately said either We Didn't Start The Fire or Uptown Girl.

My brother put it best: "Few artists have such disparity between their best and worst."

I know I'm beaten to this, but it's River of Dreams by a country mile.

One of the only artists I can think of with a best-worst disparity as great as the Beach Boys (loving Kokomo)

# ¿ Dec 20, 2010 20:11

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 16:29

ALFbrot: Apr 17, 2002

Xythar posted:

I had always assumed it was one of his most popular songs.

Also, Tell Her About It is on this album and it's one of my favourite Joel songs ever so

Tell Her About It is also unredeemable garbage

# ¿ Dec 20, 2010 22:05

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