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Beelzebozo posted:Are you talking about a lane change feature on rollover sets for like bonus multiplier advancement? It is interesting how at some point that just became a standard feature that everyone adopted. I'd love to know what the first table to do it / popularize it was. For example, the bonus multiplier rollover set on Black Hole (1981) doesn't support flipper-based lane change. So it was probably after that. Firepower was the first. It came out in 1980.
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Fancy Hat! posted:As a complete pinball rookie, learning that the flippers manipulate the lights blew my mind. Now have to go through all the last few pins ive played in a whole nee light. How did i never notice that before?! Flipper buttons sometimes cycle other lights as well. For example, on some tables you can light extra ball on one of the in/out lanes, and hitting the flippers will change which lane is lit. Or before you shoot the genie in Arabian Nights, you can change which tale is selected using the flippers. DarthXaos posted:How to do it: Interesting. At the end he mentioned that some people build the harem jackpot up to an obscene value and then start harem multiball as their main source of points. I tried that after seeing the video, but it doesn't seem very practical to me. Unless you've got that left orbit shot down perfect, it's way too easy to lose a ball (which resets your harem jackpot value) before you build it up very much. On that table I've never relied on the jet bumpers or harem mode for any serious points.
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| # ? Apr 19, 2012 17:23 |
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Parallax Scroll posted:On that table I've never relied on the jet bumpers or harem mode for any serious points. That reminds me… are you going to share with us your new strats with which you scored 333M on an "experimental" run, or aren't you? 
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Spelling HAREM is such bullshit. I capture the ball on the right flip and hold to wait for Tiger Loop lit to quit BUT sometimes the machine thinks I want Status Mode which holds the fade process of the Tiger Loop light. Invariably I'll backflip into the Bazaar which will usually reward me with Light Locks. Goddammit! I've all ready saved the princess but of course that doesn't count because I can't get the HAREM standard goal completed. gently caress this goal right on it's ear.
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Robnoxious posted:Spelling HAREM is such bullshit. I capture the ball on the right flip and hold to wait for Tiger Loop lit to quit BUT sometimes the machine thinks I want Status Mode which holds the fade process of the Tiger Loop light. Invariably I'll backflip into the Bazaar which will usually reward me with Light Locks. Goddammit! Beelzebozo posted:That reminds me… are you going to share with us your new strats with which you scored 333M on an "experimental" run, or aren't you? - The basic goal is to collect 7 jewels, then rescue the princess, which awards 20 million points and lights the outlanes for a special. - Once you've rescued the princess, the process starts over. Earn 7 more jewels and you can rescue her again. - It seems that the tables in Pinball Arcade are set to award one extra ball each time you earn a special. If you rescue the princess a second time I believe you can earn a second special/extra ball from the outlanes. - Jewels can be earned by either completing the "tale" minigames or by earning a wish. Getting the jewels from wishes is generally easier and faster than completing the tales. - Spinning the lamp 15 times activates the lightning lamp minigame and also lights "make a wish." Your lamp spins also add to the end of ball bonus, making the lamp a very worthwhile target. - Once "make a wish" is lit, shoot the bazaar hole and you'll be given the choice of one of several random rewards, or a jewel. Sometimes the other reward can be worth it, but the jewel is usually a good choice. - If you hear the girl say "my ruby is yours," shoot the bazaar hole and you'll be able to collect 2 jewels in a single wish. - If you've built up a decent amount of lamp spins, jewels, and genie hits, your end of ball bonus can get pretty high. Try to raise the bonus multiplier by alternately hitting the left and right captive balls.
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Parallax Scroll posted:- Spinning the lamp 15 times activates the lightning lamp minigame and also lights "make a wish." Your lamp spins also add to the end of ball bonus, making the lamp a very worthwhile target. Plus it's just fun as poo poo to make that thing spin. Lookit'er go! One of my favorite gimmicks, and it's so simple! The lightning lamp music/sound effects don't hurt, nor does the animation on the DMD. The music, sound, and light design on that table are some of my favorites- the end of ball bonus flourish in particular is entertaining. The wavy ramps resembling smoke really complete the look.
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Discount Viscount posted:The music, sound, and light design on that table are some of my favorites- the end of ball bonus flourish in particular is entertaining. Lost your ball? Here's a consolation prize - a sweet fuckin' sitar solo! Enjoy!
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| # ? Apr 19, 2012 22:31 |
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Those are my favourite tables in real life. Incredibly busy, graphics everywhere, lights going off like the fourth of july, ramps send balls spinning, flashers blinding you, all that stuff. The busier the better. Simpsons Pinball Party is great for this, as when all the lights are on you'd almost think the table was on fire it's so bright.
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I really wish I could find a copy of the Williams Collection for my PS3, but I cant find a Gamestop within 100 miles of me with a copy. How does is stack up to Pinball Arcade?
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Anyone going to the Northwest Pinball & Arcade Expo in June?
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| # ? Apr 19, 2012 23:31 |
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Fancy Hat! posted:I really wish I could find a copy of the Williams Collection for my PS3, but I cant find a Gamestop within 100 miles of me with a copy. How does is stack up to Pinball Arcade? Williams Collection is fantastic. Pinball Arcade is a newer product by the same company, so PA has slightly better physics, lighting, and leaderboard support. But PA only comes with 4 tables, with more down the road as DLC, while Williams Collection comes with something like 13 tables all on the disc. You can't go wrong with either one, really.
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Fancy Hat! posted:I really wish I could find a copy of the Williams Collection for my PS3, but I cant find a Gamestop within 100 miles of me with a copy. How does is stack up to Pinball Arcade? I haven't done a back to back comparison, but people have said that the Pinball Arcade physics are an improvement over it. Still, the Williams Collection is excellent, and the other tables it has are all worth getting, although many of them will probably be dlc for Pinball Arcade in the future. Try ordering it online if you can, it should be fairly cheap. Also, it seems that few people have mentioned the Gottlieb Collection from the same studio. This is their first pinball game, one for the original Xbox, PS2, Gamecube, and Wii. It has a lot of very old pinball machines, and probably won't appeal to everyone since they're a lot weirder and simpler than the refined and deep tables in Williams Collection and Pinball Arcade, but I did find it fun for the variety. It's probably best to get the Wii version. One problem I did encounter was that when playing the Xbox version on the Xbox 360, an emulator bug made the race themed table not feed me a new ball after I lost one. It plays fine on the original console though.
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Parallax Scroll posted:- Once "make a wish" is lit, shoot the bazaar hole and you'll be given the choice of one of several random rewards, or a jewel. Sometimes the other reward can be worth it, but the jewel is usually a good choice. Usually I intentionally won't shoot for the wish if something like the Tale of Ali Baba is active as that's pretty easy to complete (two ramp shots) compared to the others, so I'd rather score a free jewel later when it's more difficult. Also on the Ruby, it can be lit only once per ball. Don't think there's ever a bad time to score the two wishes from it, though.
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parasyte posted:Usually I intentionally won't shoot for the wish if something like the Tale of Ali Baba is active as that's pretty easy to complete (two ramp shots) compared to the others, so I'd rather score a free jewel later when it's more difficult. parasyte posted:Also on the Ruby, it can be lit only once per ball. Don't think there's ever a bad time to score the two wishes from it, though. Jesus Christ, that's enough pinball for me today. It's kind of addictive. That last game I saved the princess 4 times but finished just shy of my old top score.
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To follow up my earlier post, here are some higher level Arabian Nights tips. - As valuable as wishes are, they eventually become scarce. Once you've hit 119 lamp spins, you can only earn one lighting lamp and wish per ball from then on. Any additional wishes at this point will need to be earned randomly from the bazaar. - At some point, it becomes worth it to spend wishes on Collect Bonus. After all, a 25 million end of ball bonus gives a much better value than a jewel that takes you 1/7 of the way to a 20 million point princess rescue. - To speed up bonus multiplier increases, keep in mind that the captive balls re-light each time you lock a ball or finish Rescue the Princess. - Each time you rescue the princess you'll light Special in the outlanes. Use Genie Multiball to collect it.
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Parallax Scroll posted:Interesting. At the end he mentioned that some people build the harem jackpot up to an obscene value and then start harem multiball as their main source of points. I tried that after seeing the video, but it doesn't seem very practical to me. Unless you've got that left orbit shot down perfect, it's way too easy to lose a ball (which resets your harem jackpot value) before you build it up very much. On that table I've never relied on the jet bumpers or harem mode for any serious points. I had a harem multiball once where one ball stayed up in the jets the whole time, the jackpot got up to 98k or so! It still only added up to a few million points total, though. Parallax Scroll posted:- At some point, it becomes worth it to spend wishes on Collect Bonus. After all, a 25 million end of ball bonus gives a much better value than a jewel that takes you 1/7 of the way to a 20 million point princess rescue. Yeah, I'll usually take Collect Bonus if the multiplier is high, its a good way to add points fast.
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I have a half day off today  Me and my mate Greg have decided to go on the trip to the east coast for another bout of pinball. We are putting money on it to make it a little more exciting. Can't wait I was half tempted to postpone it with the news the Diablo 3 beta is out this weekend but theres plenty time for all that gamin poo poo. Pinball first. Minions of hell second.
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Beelzebozo posted:FarSight already have those, at least. I wonder if they could chase some of the "Easier" rights to get. Some of the movie licences are probably straight out (Jurassic Park: The Lost World  ) but I wonder if they could pick up something like South Park where the rights holders aren't going to be a nightmare to deal with. Also, recent convert here. Picked up PFX2 and Marvel Pinball pack on a whim and I'm loving it. Is the Vengeance and Virtue pack any good? I never really heard much about it (Though everyone seems to think the Captain America table is probably the best one).
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Sex Vicar posted:I wonder if they could pick up something like South Park where the rights holders aren't going to be a nightmare to deal with. Because of Isaac Hayes I'd assume that would be more of a nightmare than most.
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I made a spreadsheet of all the PSN usernames mentioned in this thread. Add yourself or check to make sure you're on there and your information is correct if you want to compare goonscores. 
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Tempura Wizard posted:I made a spreadsheet of all the PSN usernames mentioned in this thread. Awesome, just updated mine as I have PA now too. thanks!
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Those are my favourite tables in real life. Incredibly busy, graphics everywhere, lights going off like the fourth of july, ramps send balls spinning, flashers blinding you, all that stuff. The busier the better. Simpsons Pinball Party is great for this, as when all the lights are on you'd almost think the table was on fire it's so bright.
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Sex Vicar posted:I wonder if they could chase some of the "Easier" rights to get. Some of the movie licences are probably straight out (Jurassic Park: The Lost World I loving love Moon Knight but I'm not sure what the prevailing opinion is around these parts.
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DrNutt posted:I loving love Moon Knight but I'm not sure what the prevailing opinion is around these parts.
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Robnoxious posted:I like it but much like Blade I have no idea what I'm doing or rather what the objective of the table is. Moon Knight has a lot more simplicity over Blade which I think suffers from being too busy but I can't figure out what to do on either of them so I rarely play them. I hit the balls with the flippers and the lights flash and it makes fun noises. vBecause there's money to be made!v DrNutt fucked around with this message at Apr 20, 2012 around 17:20 |
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I'm not even sure why rights holders would be such jerks about it. The original reason there was licensed tables to begin with was to help promote the movie/whatever, why would they turn down almost free advertising?
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Sex Vicar posted:Is the Vengeance and Virtue pack any good? I never really heard much about it (Though everyone seems to think the Captain America table is probably the best one). Moon Knight is pretty solid/fun and I really enjoy Ghost Rider even though a lot of people have complained that it's too easy. It's got an interesting table layout with some different mechanical bits and doesn't rely too much on crappy looking action figures. X-Men is just like, three ramps and that's it, super boring in my opinion. Thor is kind of the same way but a little more interesting. Captain America's decent but it took me a pretty long time to figure out what the hell I was supposed to be doing. Haven't played Fantastic 4. That said, we are stupid idiots for enjoying these GARBAGE PHYSICS ffffff
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ExMortis posted:That said, we are stupid idiots for enjoying these GARBAGE PHYSICS ffffff
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They hate them very, very much. I think they own though. Also Zen needs to loving support their iOS port more. There are so many drat tables out there for their other download services but so far they haven't been regularly throwing the Best Version™ a bone.
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gypsyshred posted:I'm not even sure why rights holders would be such jerks about it. The original reason there was licensed tables to begin with was to help promote the movie/whatever, why would they turn down almost free advertising? If pins like The Addams Family, Twilight Zone or Star Trek: TNG ever see the light of day, I'll eat a bug but I just don't see it coming to fruition.
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It's further problematic because the companies that own some things might not want to bring back old versions of their intellectual property. Like, there's a new Star Trek film franchise now, why should be bring back a show that's been off the air for 15 years? It will dilute our media penetration on the new franchise etc...
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| # ? Apr 20, 2012 18:12 |
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Anyone going to the Northwest Pinball & Arcade Expo in June? I'll be there Friday and possibly Saturday.
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gypsyshred posted:I'm not even sure why rights holders would be such jerks about it. The original reason there was licensed tables to begin with was to help promote the movie/whatever, why would they turn down almost free advertising? Because it's 18 years later? The difficulty in negotiating for old movie star voice samples and likenesses would easily offset whatever gain you'd get from a few thousand video pinball players going "oh yeah that Addams Family movie."
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Anyone going to be at Pinball At The Zoo tomorrow? I will be there most all day and hopefully be bringing home a new pin!
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Well, thanks to some impulsive purchasing, I've officially began gathering materials to build a mini tabletop digital pinball machine; just ordered a playfield monitor.
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| # ? Apr 20, 2012 20:05 |
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Oh nice! Is there a specific guide you're following to build that?
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Tempura Wizard posted:I made a spreadsheet of all the PSN usernames mentioned in this thread. I'll be adding alot of you guys tonight! Also, does anybody know of some good pinball expos in the New York area? I feel like NYC should have alot more pins than I've found. Living out on Long Island makes it pretty hard since the closest pin is like, 30 miles away!
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| # ? Apr 20, 2012 20:24 |
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Any ATL goons know where some good tables are? A bar in Marietta used to have a Simpsons table which is alright...but I don't know anywhere else that has one.
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Daedalus1134 posted:I'll be there Friday and possibly Saturday. How did I not know this was a thing!? I'll be there for sure!
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Yodzilla posted:Oh nice! Is there a specific guide you're following to build that? This guy's project is what inspired me to build mine: http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=11708 I've built a MAME arcade cabinet before too, so I feel like there shouldn't be too much of a learning curve.
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