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The Imposter
Nov 2, 2004


Does anyone understand the rules regarding choosing a fighter in Street Fighter for FX 2? It says to complete a combo but I'm not sure what exactly needs to be done.

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Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002



I just got a Wii yesterday and was thinking of picking up the Williams Collection for it. Amazon has one used real cheap, but I wondered if I'm painting myself into a corner getting a used copy. Is there some digital downloads or something associated with it that I might not be able to get?

Edit: Consider I didn't really even have a prior-generation console when I got this one, let alone a current generation one. So I really don't know the ball game with this stuff yet.

Rocko Bonaparte fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2010 around 23:36

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Rocko Bonaparte posted:

I just got a Wii yesterday and was thinking of picking up the Williams Collection for it. Amazon has one used real cheap, but I wondered if I'm painting myself into a corner getting a used copy. Is there some digital downloads or something associated with it that I might not be able to get?

Nope. For the pinball hall of fame collections even on the consoles that feature heavy download support there really isn't anything. You won't have an issue.

FWIW the Wii got a port of the Pinball Hall of Fame Gottlieb collection also. I think the tables are better in the Williams collection but the Gottlieb collection is just as well done.

warptail
Jul 14, 2004

LOAD “*”,8,1

Got FX the day it launched.. same with FX2. Over time, I've downloaded every damned table, even Excalibur--which has strangely grown on me. The Marvel tables are their best work overall though. Anyone played the two tables they're bringing over from the PS3 version?

Anyway, feel free to add me and obliterate my scores. I'm BoogerGolem on Live.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Look, one way or another, you're leaving this place covered in semen. Might as well have some fun.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

I can't understand why people don't unanimously think Blade is the best table. It has the best shots, the coolest theme (I love the day/night cycle), the most modes. It's the loving bomb.

Iron Man is loving dull and I hate the middle shot to open the mission hole that kicks the ball right back down your gullet sometimes. Wolverine has this too but it's not as pronounced.

Blade also has a ton of long shots, which I'm not too fond of.

I like Iron Man because it is incredibly straight forward; I've said it before, but it's a great chill out table. On some tables "shoot the lit shot" is really really difficult to make out because there is so much poo poo happening at all times (SotD has a bit of this going on, see Kraken Mode). Iron Man has the entire drat lane light up.

Kelp Plankton posted:

Gamertag is Kelp Plankton, if anyone wants to add me.

Last time I was online you hadn't confirmed my request for SSFIV, now we can be buddies for two games

Kelp Plankton
Aug 5, 2007

My CoX will forever blast giant streams of liquid!

Boxman posted:

Last time I was online you hadn't confirmed my request for SSFIV, now we can be buddies for two games

Aw yeah, sorry, I've been slow to get around to that sort of stuff due to working a lot lately. If it hasn't shown up now, re-send the friend request. My list got full and I cleaned some older names out but I'm worried I might have hit a newer one or two.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 17, 2007
King of the impossible.

Just picked up the Marvel set, those are the only tables I have. I need some people to compete scores with!

My tag is Steel Colossus

and I'm not very good.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

Gotta' nuke something.


Some of you may have seen a few pages back that I said I was going to build a custom pinball controller for all the new XBox Live pinball tables. Rather than a flash in the pan idea, quickly forgotten, I give you proof of my work!

These are just some shots of test fittings and playability of the case overall. The case itself is built with Poplar. The fit isn't perfect yet, but this is literally the first time since high-school woodworking class that I've done anything beyond cutting a board in half. Some rough sanding with a palm sander should get everything a little more pretty. It will sit on my lap as I play, and I can slap the side buttons for the flippers. You might notice I incorporated the right thumbstick, letting it poke out of a hole to act as the "plunger". I wanted to do something with the left stick and keep it's table-bump function, perhaps attachign weights to it so it would move when you bumped the whole box, but confines are so tight where the pad is mounted that it just wasn't feasible. Luckily in the game you can switch the table-bump function to the D-Pad, and those buttons are right within thumb-reach from the left flipper button. I still need to finish the case in black, then get some art under plexi at the top, and then some chrome edge-protectors and ball-corner protectors on the very top edges.










Bloody Hedgehog fucked around with this message at Dec 14, 2010 around 07:10

Obeast
Aug 26, 2006
Õ_~ ANIME BABE LOVER 2000 ~_Õ

^^^ That's pretty awesome. I can't wait to see it when it's finished.

I think I'm done with Williams Collection. Even with Sizone's advice (which was good by the way, thank you for that), I still cannot do the 'get to sun, get bonus' goal in Pin*Bot. I did get to the sun twice, but barely missed the bonus shot on the right drop target, both times happened on the final ball. I'm convinced that whoever thought that goal up must've had a really lovely day or something, because this makes Mario Galaxy 2's final star look like a piece of cake. I might either take a break from the game in general or just move on to another table and come back to it at a much later time. On the upside, I found that Wiimotes are really sturdy when slammed on the floor in child-like rage.

Also, about the Marvel PFX2 tables, does anyone else's eyes hurt when they look at Wolverine's table? I dunno if it's my monitor's color settings or what, but the yellow is almost too blinding for me to play on properly, which sucks because it looks like a pretty fun table (as do all of the other Marvel tables).

Obeast fucked around with this message at Dec 14, 2010 around 10:52

The General
Mar 4, 2007

So gentlemen, we meet again.


gently caress the Blade and Wolverine tables. While they are both fun, I keep hitting the goddamned ball into the upper flippers. Causing the ball to shoot down the center at alarming speeds. Speeds I have no defense for

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004



The General posted:

gently caress the Blade and Wolverine tables. While they are both fun, I keep hitting the goddamned ball into the upper flippers. Causing the ball to shoot down the center at alarming speeds. Speeds I have no defense for

Yeah, I am not as enthralled with these new tables as everyone else seems to be. Spidey is really great, but Wolverine seems like I lose balls in the gutters CONSTANTLY and Iron Man is sort of just boring. Blade seems cool, but I have played the least of it.

They are still really good, but I'm not sure I like them better than the FX2 core tables (except Rome, gently caress Rome).

Tasteful Bulge
Sep 5, 2003

It's down to you and me, you one-eyed freak.


Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah, I am not as enthralled with these new tables as everyone else seems to be. Spidey is really great, but Wolverine seems like I lose balls in the gutters CONSTANTLY and Iron Man is sort of just boring. Blade seems cool, but I have played the least of it.

They are still really good, but I'm not sure I like them better than the FX2 core tables (except Rome, gently caress Rome).

Iron Man is fun if you follow an early pattern. What I typically do is focus on getting my kickbacks first, which is pretty simple, and then get into the suit as quickly as possible. The actual game modes are easy to trigger (just keep shooting for the center), and once you're there it's just a matter of repeating.

Wolverine's harder to defend. I think it's a solid and fun table, but it obviously didn't get a lot of playtesting. I'm constantly restarting due to outlane drains. It shows a real lack of polish when you have to cross your fingers when hitting the Sabretooth area and hope the ball doesn't drop straight down the center upon exiting. I've even launched the ball, hit the skill shot, the ball drops around the back, hits the right bumper and shoots straight down the left outlane without the ball coming anywhere close to a flipper.

A lot of video pinball games (and even a few physical tables) will deal with troublesome drains by very briefly lighting the ball rescue when a ball hits a notorious spot. They usually do this because the spot will be discovered after it's too late to physically change the table without creating more problems. Wolverine could benefit from this in several spots. In fact, since I've gushed about the new tables in previous posts, here's my major beefs:

Wolverine: As mentioned, it's the unavoidable drains and drops. The kickback targets are extremely hard to hit, and aiming for them more often than not results in hitting the ball with the tip of the left flipper, the ball hits the bottom corner of the right bumper and drains right down the center. There's also a HUGE problem with the timer. If your primary mode target is a little tiny scoop in a hard to hit area, don't turn it off after five seconds.

Iron Man: Whiplash really needs to stop swinging his lashes. It's distracting and you can lose sight of the ball. I wish it was a little easier to line up the shots when you're supposed to be firing energy blasts at Whiplash. There's also a bug in the skill shot where if you use the trigger camera to see which lane you need to hit, when it switches back, you can't see the plunger. At least not in view 6.

Blade: This has a few unavoidable drains too, but not too bad. My primary complaint is with the top flipper. It juts out a little too much and it's much too easy to ricochet a fast ball off the left flipper, hit the bottom of the upper flipper and then have to scramble to avoid a drain. Also the usual complaint about being hard to see when it gets dark.

Spider-Man: No real major complaints. It can be hard to see your ball when Doc Ock starts getting closer to the bottom, but he never obscures the bottom flippers. The skill shot's a pain in my rear end, though.

Otherwise, I do still have the same general complaints with all of the FX2 tables. The physics are still "off" a little, and I'm pretty sure they compensate at times by changing the ball weight on the fly or even prioritizing certain angles in certain modes. It just feels like in some multiball modes the balls angles bias towards the drain, and seeing how they ricochet off of each other, the balls are definitely too light.

Wamdoodle
May 15, 2007


Just got the Marvel pinball tables on the PS3 and I just wanted to drop my PSN ID for anyone else to add me to their list. None of my other friends seem to be into video pinball. I also have all the other tables on Zen Pinball so there's that.

PSN: Firefox357

Hakkeshu
Aug 10, 2005

Blinging in the Wastes!

Tasteful Bulge posted:



Wolverine's harder to defend. I think it's a solid and fun table, but it obviously didn't get a lot of playtesting. I'm constantly restarting due to outlane drains. It shows a real lack of polish when you have to cross your fingers when hitting the Sabretooth area and hope the ball doesn't drop straight down the center upon exiting. I've even launched the ball, hit the skill shot, the ball drops around the back, hits the right bumper and shoots straight down the left outlane without the ball coming anywhere close to a flipper.

This, I don't know pinball terminology but thats the very outside lane? I've lost more balls to that then it dropping down between the flippers. On my 2nd game I scored 22 million on it which to me is amazing but I havent gotten anywhere closer to getting there again. It's a fun table to me and I hope to master it sometime in the future. On the spiderman one I love how the green goblins ball exploders and flips the flippers around on the controller.

Dr. Meat
Mar 20, 2005
Trust me, I'm a doctor

I just got the Marvel tables for Pinball FX 2 (got all the tables now), and figured it was high time to connect with some dudes and get my friends leaderboard filled up a bit. I've sent friend requests to the first and last 10 people in the list in the 2nd post. Anyway I am pretty awful, highest score is 17M on Earth Defense.

My gt: drmeat64

Please add me (to that list too). Thanks!

Chunderbucket
Aug 31, 2006



edit: was I hearing things? Disregard this, I'm going insane.

Chunderbucket fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2010 around 01:36

Satan Chain 4 Daisy
Jul 9, 2007

She been cuckolding motherfuckers since the game boy days.

I just bought FX2 based on the recommendation of this thread and dig it quite a bit so far.

My GT is "an atheist plot" if anyone is looking to up their Wizard score/network of fake friends.

Leovinus
Apr 28, 2005

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Just bought the Marvel pack for FX2, so add "Dr Leovinus" to the gamertag list.

I'm really enjoying it now that I've learned to play a bit better. I've learned the Spider-Man table a bit and am really enjoying playing it and getting my scores up. I'm still not very good, and I'm never going to make the three Mysterio shots in the time given. It's tough enough getting the right-flipper Webswing shot when going after the extra ball.

Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002



I just got the Williams Collection for the Wii. I couldn't find a way to forward nudge, and nudging generally felt pretty poor. The ball acted pretty much like it was on ice when side nudged, when my experience IRL is that a table with some friction will move the ball one way or another. It also seems to not so much nudge left or right, but shake all over the place.

I did pretty good are Firepower my first run around. I played that a lot in Future Pinball so I was somewhat familiar with it. I do like how it explains the game rules for each table. Unfortunately I will probably pass out before comprehending all the rules for Funhouse. I could just imagine what the rule explanation would be life for ST:TNG if they ever had that in a game.

I think I saw the probably a lot of people were talking about in Pinbot where the ball likes to go off the plunger, run around a little, then drain right out the left outlane before it ever graces the flippers. That was where I was trying to figure out how to nudge forward because I could have tapped a few of them from below.

Obeast
Aug 26, 2006
Õ_~ ANIME BABE LOVER 2000 ~_Õ

Rocko Bonaparte posted:

I just got the Williams Collection for the Wii. I couldn't find a way to forward nudge, and nudging generally felt pretty poor. The ball acted pretty much like it was on ice when side nudged, when my experience IRL is that a table with some friction will move the ball one way or another. It also seems to not so much nudge left or right, but shake all over the place.

I did pretty good are Firepower my first run around. I played that a lot in Future Pinball so I was somewhat familiar with it. I do like how it explains the game rules for each table. Unfortunately I will probably pass out before comprehending all the rules for Funhouse. I could just imagine what the rule explanation would be life for ST:TNG if they ever had that in a game.

I think I saw the probably a lot of people were talking about in Pinbot where the ball likes to go off the plunger, run around a little, then drain right out the left outlane before it ever graces the flippers. That was where I was trying to figure out how to nudge forward because I could have tapped a few of them from below.
I don't think you can forward nudge since all the game detects is whether you shake the Wiimote or Nunchuck and how hard you shake either one. I have no idea if the other ports have forward nudging since those probably mapped the nudge to the analog stick and/or d-pad.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007
Philosophy degrees add inches to your penis


Rocko Bonaparte posted:


I think I saw the probably a lot of people were talking about in Pinbot where the ball likes to go off the plunger, run around a little, then drain right out the left outlane before it ever graces the flippers. That was where I was trying to figure out how to nudge forward because I could have tapped a few of them from below.

Don't know about the wii version, but I found on the 360 that the "down nudge" (oddly, the one you can't really do on a real table) was the most useful. It slows the ball's momentum, but doesn't alter its direction too radically.

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010


On the Wii I try to emulate a forward nudge by swinging both. Don't know how accurate that is. It's mostly useful for death saves on Gorgar.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

this is a level beyond puke

you can call it puke 2


Just bought the Marvel tables for Pinball FX2, having an absolutely loving blast so far! Definitely going to be picking up the other tables once I can afford them.

Feel free to add my 360 gamertag to the list: XausF1

rockinricky
Mar 27, 2003


Attention players of Future Pinball!

The main program has been updated so that it won't expire on January 1 2011.

It is available at http://futurepinball.com

Many thanks to Black (Chris Leathley) the program's creator! Now I can play Three Angels and Dead Hunters among others after the New Year Begins.

Happy New Year pinball fans!!

Your way works too
Mar 18, 2007



Tasteful Bulge posted:

It shows a real lack of polish when you have to cross your fingers when hitting the Sabretooth area and hope the ball doesn't drop straight down the center upon exiting.

I just wanted to mention that I have had good luck solving this by giving the table a hard shake in one direction whenever it drops from the Sabertooth area. Due to the way the game handles shaking there does not seem to be a risk of tilting doing this.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007
Philosophy degrees add inches to your penis


drat doggies, hella cool poo poo coming down the pipe. Just found these awesome leaked images on kotaku.





Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



I think there's something wrong with me. My biggest problem with Pinball FX's Rome table isn't the poorly defined ramp boundaries or the low scoring mode that's easy to activate and locks you out of advancing other things for thirty seconds. What drives me nuts is how they've mixed Greek and Roman on the table. They're not the same thing, Zen!

Starhawk
Mar 28, 2003

I am leaking dangerous cargo.

My apologies if this kind of thing has been done before but I came across a pinball machine at a laundromat today for the first time in years and thought I'd mark it on a google map. Then I thought it'd be cool if anybody could add to that map and we'd have a source of info for finding real physical machines.

It's a sad and dismal start, at an entire ONE table right now, but maybe there's hundreds out there that I don't know about. Feel free to add to the map in whatever city or country.

Pinball Tables In The Wild

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


Old episode of Omni featuring Suzanne Ciani - Composer/sound designer for the Xenon pinball table.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8O5HPvfsg

As a sound designer/composer for slot machines myself, all I can think is

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007
Philosophy degrees add inches to your penis


Starhawk posted:

My apologies if this kind of thing has been done before but I came across a pinball machine at a laundromat today for the first time in years and thought I'd mark it on a google map. Then I thought it'd be cool if anybody could add to that map and we'd have a source of info for finding real physical machines.

It's a sad and dismal start, at an entire ONE table right now, but maybe there's hundreds out there that I don't know about. Feel free to add to the map in whatever city or country.

Pinball Tables In The Wild

How do you add markers to the map? Found out tonight that one of the malls near me has Iron Man, Avatar and Big Game Hunter (or whatever it's called). All new, clean and working good (also seem totally neglected by costumers). Iron Man kinda sucks, my three balls drained within a matter of seconds. Can't say I hate the Avatar table too much though, was having a hard time making the left side shots, but that might be because it's been....maybe 5 years since I've played a real table. This does put me in the curious position of hating Stern's Iron Man, but still liking Zen's.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


I've added a marker in Fredericton, New Brunswick (where I'm from) for Data East's table for 'The Simpsons'. Unfortunately, while I provided a link to show exactly which table this is (http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=2158) I don't have any of the specific details about this table itself or the location, unlike the first example posted.

Starhawk
Mar 28, 2003

I am leaking dangerous cargo.

Sizone posted:

How do you add markers to the map? Found out tonight that one of the malls near me has Iron Man, Avatar and Big Game Hunter (or whatever it's called). All new, clean and working good (also seem totally neglected by costumers). Iron Man kinda sucks, my three balls drained within a matter of seconds. Can't say I hate the Avatar table too much though, was having a hard time making the left side shots, but that might be because it's been....maybe 5 years since I've played a real table. This does put me in the curious position of hating Stern's Iron Man, but still liking Zen's.

I think you have to "Save to my maps" first. Then hit edit.

Thanks for the adds

ixnay
Jun 11, 2002

rainbow dash why are you making such a cool face?!

More pinball on the 360 - Pinball HOF: The Gottlieb Collection coming out on XBLA this month, apparently.

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=653035

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005


Wamdoodle posted:

Just got the Marvel pinball tables on the PS3 and I just wanted to drop my PSN ID for anyone else to add me to their list. None of my other friends seem to be into video pinball. I also have all the other tables on Zen Pinball so there's that.

PSN: Firefox357

I've been playing against you! PSN Yodzilla.


And while I'm enjoying them I really loving hate the artwork on the Marvel tables. It's embarrassingly bad.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

Gotta' nuke something.


Yodzilla posted:

I've been playing against you! PSN Yodzilla.


And while I'm enjoying them I really loving hate the artwork on the Marvel tables. It's embarrassingly bad.

For me, it isn't just the art, but I don't like it when digital pinball tables do things that real pinball games can't. Having a few characters on the playfield is fine, but keep their action limited as if they were some sort of very limited animatronic puppet. Don't have them flying across the playfield on gliders and stomping around on robot spider arms. The base tables are fairly good at keeping things within the realm of possibility, but the Marvel tables just throw that out the window and act like there are miniature living characters under the glass.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


ixnay posted:

More pinball on the 360 - Pinball HOF: The Gottlieb Collection coming out on XBLA this month, apparently.

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=653035

I'm excited for this, I sold my Gottlieb Collection PS2 disk a few years back. I preferred the Williams tables myself but I'm up for having more pinball on my 360.

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010


Bloody Hedgehog posted:

For me, it isn't just the art, but I don't like it when digital pinball tables do things that real pinball games can't. Having a few characters on the playfield is fine, but keep their action limited as if they were some sort of very limited animatronic puppet. Don't have them flying across the playfield on gliders and stomping around on robot spider arms. The base tables are fairly good at keeping things within the realm of possibility, but the Marvel tables just throw that out the window and act like there are miniature living characters under the glass.

I don't really mind that depending on the game and what it's trying to accomplish, as long as the tone is pretty consistent. There are pinball video games and then there's video pinball. Kirby's Pinball Land is a pinball video game; Pro Pinball: Big Race USA is video pinball. Metroid Prime Pinball is a pinball video game but everything's so well fleshed-out that you really want it to be a real table

Having not played the Marvel tables and having played the Zen Pinball demo, I can definitely see where you'd have a problem with that stuff since the Zen/PFX engine seems to aim for a recreation of realistic pinball.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004



So having played the Marvel table on both the 360 and PS3 (tops of my friends list on all those tables on PS3 ), I have to say they seem to play WAY better to me on the 360. Has anyone else tried both and fel the same way?

I'm not sure if it is just that the 360 controller feels better for flippers (I never feel very in control of the ball on the PS3), or if I really do see some physics difference between the two. The ball seems to get wonky more on PS3, randomly losing momentum or swerving in an unrealistic way. Also, the artwork seems much more crisp on the 360, which is a huge difference maker when playing at the most zoomed out view (which seems like the ideal way on most tables).

That, and my 360 friends have way higher scores...

Add PSN ID Hal_1ncandenza for some pinball love. Help me get a gold trophy! Also I need someone besides chumps on my high score list to keep me challenged.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005


After today I'll be playing more so I'll definitely be challenging you. Do you have all of the Zen Pinball games on the PS3 as well?

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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004



Yodzilla posted:

After today I'll be playing more so I'll definitely be challenging you. Do you have all of the Zen Pinball games on the PS3 as well?

I don't, because I have FX and FX2 on the 360, but now that I see there are different tables in Zen I might just pick that up. Does it have the same cool leaderboard integration?

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