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The only thing worse than hating on women is a shallow rule set with repetitive shots - us itt.
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R.I.P. Python Anghelo, you creepy creepy man.
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Jul 29, 2015 00:51
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Are you in this Clouseau? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js2rpRXOHkM
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Jul 29, 2015 06:10
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King Vidiot posted:R.I.P. Python Anghelo, you creepy creepy man. Trudeau's the creep iirc
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Jul 29, 2015 06:57
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There may well be more than one but Python was, by all accounts, a huge fuckin creep.
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Jul 29, 2015 07:18
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I've been out of the Pinball Arcade loop since sometime in Season 3. Have there been any recent tables I should avoid other than Lights, Camera, Action? Is Class of 1812 still the worst table?
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Jul 29, 2015 08:06
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On the flip side of the question, what are the must-have tables from later seasons? I'm particularly fond of Medieval Madness because it seems like every shot does something; tables like ST:TNG and Twilight Zone have the unfortunate issue of often having poor shots just bounce off a post or something. And is Season 2 worth buying at half price? I've heard it has more than its share of clunkers. Also, which tables have the improved ball physics? Big Shot, Road Trip, and Xenon are the ones I think have it... any others?
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Jul 29, 2015 08:18
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FredMSloniker posted:And is Season 2 worth buying at half price? I've heard it has more than its share of clunkers. Totally worth it. Class of 1812 is wretched, and Central Park doesn't really have anything going for it besides novelty value, but I'd call every other table decent or better.
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Jul 29, 2015 08:41
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Niwrad posted:Are you in this Clouseau? Yup! Commissioner Ben. I'll leave whether I was having a good hair day or a great hair day up to the viewer. I was really nervous because they interviewed me for about a half hour for the footage, and they asked me a bunch of very specific history of pinball manufacturing questions I was absolutely sure I got wrong. Fortunately, none of that was used. I drop in on Deadflip very occasionally too, though I haven't done so in a long time.
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Jul 29, 2015 13:07
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FredMSloniker posted:Also, which tables have the improved ball physics? Big Shot, Road Trip, and Xenon are the ones I think have it... any others? Any table from here on out should have the new physics. Safecracker does and it's surprisingly fun for all the disappointment people in the thread seemed to have that it wasn't their pet favorite table. As for must-haves from later seasons, there isn't much in the way of what you're looking for from Medieval Madness, but in my opinion here's the better tables/packs: Season 2: White Water/Space Shuttle, Centaur/Pin*Bot, T2, Champion Pub/Whirlwind Season 3: Dracula, Diner, Black Knight 2000, Who Dunnit?, High Speed Season 4: Addams Family, Cyclone, Road Show, Safecracker There's others too depending on what looks good to you. And I'd maybe consider Season 2 at half-price, maybe. I mean personally I've bought every single season, so mileage may vary, but at $15 you're basically paying for Season 2's best tables and getting the bad ones to at least try out for the sake of novelty.
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Jul 29, 2015 13:54
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Rollersnake posted:Totally worth it. Class of 1812 is wretched, and Central Park doesn't really have anything going for it besides novelty value, but I'd call every other table decent or better. Uh, weren't Goin' Nuts and that horrible Aztec themed early '80's Gottlieb table also part of season 2? Any way, the full season is worth it for Centaur and Pin*Bot alone.
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Jul 29, 2015 13:58
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Sizone posted:Uh, weren't Goin' Nuts and that horrible Aztec themed early '80's Gottlieb table also part of season 2? Goin' Nuts is a crime against humanity, and when I saw that Safecracker was time-based instead of three-ball-based, I was very nervous that it might be another horror.
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Jul 29, 2015 13:59
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I can't see the name Goin' Nuts without hearing that pulsing WHOM-wum WHOM-wum WHOM-wum in my head and getting a thousand yard stare. That game is a loving abomination, and I feel bad for anybody with the Stockholm Syndrome to think they like it.
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prefect posted:Goin' Nuts is a crime against humanity, and when I saw that Safecracker was time-based instead of three-ball-based, I was very nervous that it might be another horror. Fear not. Safecracker is actually pretty fun and I don't really like Pat Lawlor tables. Fortunately it avoids the usual Lawlor curses, the annoying 3rd flipper is mostly vestigial, there aren't, as far as I can tell, any needlessly difficult hurryup modes and the voice samples are merely annoying and not deplorable. It is, however, debatable how much the gimmick improves or impedes the game.
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Jul 29, 2015 14:09
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Smoking Crow posted:Trudeau's the creep iirc 
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Jul 29, 2015 15:06
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Whitewater and Space Shuttle were season 2, right? Firepower too, and Flight 2000 really bonded with me as well. But yeah gently caress that stream of Gottlieb crap.
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Jul 29, 2015 15:18
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Smoking Crow posted:Trudeau's the creep iirc The creator of Zingy Bingy was the creep.
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Jul 29, 2015 15:30
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The Kins posted:Like I need an excuse to repost this... quote:Kingpin and Big Bang Bar are now highly sought after collectors' items going for as much as $5000 to $6000
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Jul 29, 2015 16:11
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The Kins posted:Like I need an excuse to repost this... That's one of my very favorites. There's also Python's bridge burning podcast where he berates the host into promising to read Ayn Rand and then badmouths everyone except Steve Ritchie.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:15
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He wasn't totally kind to Steve Ritchie either. It's been a while but I remember him going off about how High Speed was disrespectful to cops.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:40
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King Vidiot posted:I can't see the name Goin' Nuts without hearing that pulsing WHOM-wum WHOM-wum WHOM-wum in my head and getting a thousand yard stare. That game is a loving abomination, and I feel bad for anybody with the Stockholm Syndrome to think they like it. I like the gimmick, and I was addicted to it for a while. I think of it as kind of a training table for managing multiball. Sizone posted:that horrible Aztec themed early '80's Gottlieb table El Dorado: City of Gold makes more sense when you read it up on it and see it was the last of many themed variations on the same table layout, which first debuted in 1975. I think it plays fine, but it's no accident that it's generic as hell.     The best-looking of all of them is the Canada Dry one. "Ginger ale" is somehow a more appealing theme for that table than "mythical ancient city." 
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Jul 29, 2015 19:38
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I really wanted this to be about smoking.
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Jul 29, 2015 20:36
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I actually like Goin' Nuts, though there's one bank of targets I can't hit to save my life, I think it's the yellows.
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Jul 29, 2015 22:59
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Rollersnake posted:El Dorado: City of Gold makes more sense when you read it up on it and see it was the last of many themed variations on the same table layout, which first debuted in 1975. I think it plays fine, but it's no accident that it's generic as hell. DLC pack Detected.
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Clouseau posted:Yup! Commissioner Ben. I'll leave whether I was having a good hair day or a great hair day up to the viewer. I was really nervous because they interviewed me for about a half hour for the footage, and they asked me a bunch of very specific history of pinball manufacturing questions I was absolutely sure I got wrong. Fortunately, none of that was used. You did great. I'm glad Delilah's got a plug in that video too. It's what got me into AC/DC and is right across the street from me. Seven Ten (formerly Lucky Strike) used to have a Frankenstein before they re-modeled.
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Jul 30, 2015 04:59
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King Vidiot posted:Any table from here on out should have the new physics. Safecracker does and it's surprisingly fun for all the disappointment people in the thread seemed to have that it wasn't their pet favorite table. Junk Yard is my second favorite table in season 3, and the closest to Medieval Madness, in the sense it feels like every shot is doing something. My opinion.
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Jul 30, 2015 12:43
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The Gotlieb machines are bewildering to me. There are some good ones few and far between and Gotlieb was too cheap to get licenses most of the time, so why choose such awful tables to represent that company? Goin' Nuts at least has the historical curiosity value, but there is NO reason on earth to digitize Class and Lights, Camera, Action. LCA is my most hated table in the game, how they could play more than three games with the unmissable Skill Shot that takes 10 seconds to get through and not realize the table was broken, I'll never know. poo poo theme, poo poo art, poo poo modes, poo poo shots. A horrendous table.
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Jul 31, 2015 02:21
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Rollersnake posted:I like the gimmick, and I was addicted to it for a while. I think of it as kind of a training table for managing multiball. lol ive played el dorado and canada dry
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Jul 31, 2015 02:33
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I don't hate Class of 1812 that much.
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Jul 31, 2015 02:54
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cosmicjim posted:I don't hate Class of 1812 that much. Yeah, I'm not seeing why it's that bad. I thought it wasn't too bad and fairly fun to play.
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Jul 31, 2015 02:55
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I don't like Class but I don't mind LCA at all, it's not great but it's totally fine, as is Tee'd Off. Yeah, Premier released a lot of poo poo but TO and LCA are decent games. I think some people just go into a froth over any Premier/Gottlieb table for some reason.
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Jul 31, 2015 03:56
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Haunted House doesn't flow great but the aesthetics are fantastic.
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Haunted House is so great, a game with that many flippers should be any fun... but it is. Genie is fine. I hate the rest of the Gottlieb games immensely and I get annoyed just seeing them on my list of tables. They are just... UGLY.
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Jul 31, 2015 15:03
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Dre2Dee2 posted:Haunted House is so great, a game with that many flippers should be any fun... but it is. Genie is fine. You take that poo poo back about Black Hole right now, buster 
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Jul 31, 2015 19:02
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In the case of Class of 1812, it could play brilliantly and I'd still probably hate it because it is obnoxious with an intensity that borders on torture. Plus is there anything it does that Monster Bash doesn't do better? At least it comes with Victory, which might be my favorite of all the Gottlieb tables.
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Man, I just tried Xenon and the physics are so much better it's crazy. It feels so much better to be doing drop catches and post passes with ease. I really hope Farsight retroactively updates the physics on season 1-3 tables, but I'm not hopeful for it to happen anytime soon.
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Yeah the first time I live catched a ball with the new physics I was floored, that never ever happened on any of the other tables. The ball just stops dead and rolls into the cradle and it's great. 
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Okay, I've put Safecracker all together now and I really really like it. The only one blemish it has is that it's super punishing in so far as the roof entrance is quite often the worst entrance, and so many shots that are important to make if you miss them suck you into the pops and then into the roof. The most obvious is missing left of the sewer entrance and the ball getting kicked around the orbit into the pops again. 
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Domus posted:I think the grotto shot isn't working because the post isn't working. It's a pop-up post, they're on a lot of sterns. Most visible in Sopranos, in the spinner shot while it displays the episode/pork store. It's a solenoid that drives it, so there's either a loose wire, a bad transistor, or they disabled it for some reason. Also, that shot to the right of the center ramp is wired wrong. There's a gate there, with a switch on it. Hard to see because it kind of hides under the triangle thing. Thanks for the info - I didn't reply for a while because I've been having a problem getting that manual. Somewhere stateside, the route just goes dead and I can't reach the website at all - I thought that it might get fixed over time, but nothing yet, and I might have some time to check the table out over the weekend. If somebody could reupload the manual to some file hosting site, I would be much obliged.
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Clouseau posted:That's one of my very favorites. Wait, that was Python? I could have sworn that interview was Trudeau
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