Fenarisk posted:

No that helps a lot and I get it now. Thanks!

Joudas posted:

You guys really need to check this out, this poo poo is bananas.

B A-N A-N A S

It's every nerd genre and RPG game mashed up... and it works?

Dungeons: The Dragoning posted:

You hold in your
hands a roleplaying game, one that asks you a
very important question. Is a man not entitled
to the grandest of adventure? 'No!' says the
man with the neckbeard, 'it would be unbalanced.'
'No!' says the man in the high heels, 'it
wouldn't be deep enough.' 'No!' says the man
on the internet 'the new edition ruins everything
forever.' I rejected those answers; instead,
I chose something different. I chose the
impossible. I chose... DUNGEONS THE
DRAGONING, a game where the fighter
would not fear the wizard, where the cleric
would not be nerfed, where the great would
not be constrained by the small!

DarckRedd posted:

Evil Mastermind posted:

p'zones

CommissarMega posted:

Don't know if anyone's posted it here yet, but I'd like to call your attention to the free, totally ripped off Dungeons: The Dragoning. Give it a whirl, see what you think.

SlothBear posted:

Do you think it would be worth trying to run a game of this here? I'm sort of toying with the idea...the system is just like nerd pen and paper gaming crack and I kind of want a hit.

quote:

* Things are now in alphabetical order. You would be surprised how long it took to do that.
* Examples have been put in the book for Character Creation, Spell Combos, and Special Attacks.
* A few things (such as the description of Raises and Checks) have been provided earlier in the book.
* Specialties have been changed to just give +1 to the stat or skill when they apply, to make things less confusing.
* Sizes changed to have 4 as human average. Halfings are 2, Elves are 3, Aasimar are 5, and so forth.
* The Aasimar Racial ability starts them with Fearless and Jaded so they never need to spend XP on them.
* Human Racial ability now gives you +100 starting XP.
* Squat Toughness is now less broken, working as a once per scene reduction of hit point loss to 1.
* Atlanteans made less weak. Their mechanics for recharging their resource point have been improved and they can roll twice for all Psychic Phenomena rolls and take either or both results.
* What happens to a promethean with damaged limbs or a destroyed body is spelled out.
* Promethean Alchemy has been replaced with an ability to recharge Pyros after taking E damage.
* Vampires can now use parasols to protect themselves from the sun - the more frills the parasols have, the greater protection they give.
* A Werewolf in Warform is slightly less rape.
* Free Study has been added to the Classes section as an option between class choices.
* Classes in general have been fixed a bit. Some have had skills added.
* Several missing feats have been added.
* Exalt Asset section has been re-done to stop having such a terrible layout.
* Racial Feats now note the race they are for.
* Psychic Phenomena now occurs when keeping exploded dice on an Unfettered test instead of when rolling doubles, thus making it less punishing to high-stat casters but also making the choice of risking Phenomena an actual choice.
* Evocation spells now do real damage instead of wasting your turn.
* Necromancy and Transmutation changed significantly. Wizards now get Necromancy, Clerics get Transmutation.
* Special Attacks that use non-attack actions have been made more clear on what they mean.
* Dots in the Artifact Background limited to 5 total during character creation.
* Mithril Legs made less broken, no longer better than being Super-God.
* Necrodermis weapons no longer impossible to parry or dodge, still immune to prayers and mercy.
* Rolled dice over 10 now convert to Kept dice at a 2:1 ratio instead of 1:1, thus ensuring that future generations will still have kept dice to use.
* Stunting not changed at all. Mentioning it here because no one uses it.
* Healing Surge action added in. God help us all.
* Monster sizes changed to go with the new average size.

Doc Hawkins posted:

Patch notes of that length seem highly "un-indie".

Well, they are longer than some entire games. Go play ghost/Echo or Inspectres or something, dang.

Gravy Train Robber posted:

This thread keeps introducing me to new systems. I'm reading through Six Thirteen at the moment, and wondering if anyone has ever tried a PbP of it here on the forums? It looks fairly fast and easy. Would there be any interest if I was to throw up a thread for it later on?

SlothBear posted:

Do you think it would be worth trying to run a game of this here? I'm sort of toying with the idea...the system is just like nerd pen and paper gaming crack and I kind of want a hit.

Wikipedia posted:

Setting

The game is set in "a West that never quite was" - loosely based on the Mormon State of Deseret in pre-statehood Utah. Players are "God's Watchdogs" (Dogs), who travel from town to town delivering mail, helping out the community and enforcing the judgments of the True Faith of the King of Life. This may involve anything from delivering new interpretations to the town's Steward to executing heretics. Dogs have absolute authority within the Faith, but not within the laws of the Territorial Authority, and so their actions can lead to conflict with the government in the East.


System

The game features an unusual form of conflict resolution, where die rolls are used in poker-style bids.

Character's statistics and traits are represented by dice pools. At the start of a conflict, the Gamemaster and other players decide what is at stake, determine which pools are applicable, and those are rolled at that point. The character with the initiative puts forward a "raise" of two dice, while narrating a portion of the conflict which is beneficial to his character's position in the conflict. The opponent must respond by putting forward one or more dice whose total exceeds the total of the dice which were used to raise, or "give" — i.e. lose the conflict. If three or more dice are needed, the opponent suffers "fallout" — a negative outcome to be determined at the end of the conflict. If only one die is needed by the opponent, the attack has been "turned against the attacker" and the die can be reused to raise in the next round. The opponent now begins a round by putting forward two dice which the first character must match, and so on until one player or the other gives. Players may bring in new dice by "escalating" the conflict, from non-physical (discussion) to physical (running away) to brawling and then to gunfighting. If the conflict didn't start with non-physical, players may escalate from gunfighting to discussion, though it occurs only rarely. The GM's set of rules in conflict is very simple: "Say yes, or roll dice."

One of the most potent aspects of the system is "Town Creation" where the moral landscape of the town is laid out in the form of characters, their desires, and what they've done to each other. This gives the GM the ability to make sure that merely engaging meaningfully in the town is interesting and making wins or losses less important to them. By representing the townsfolk and their interests, rather than presenting a tactical challenge, the GM is able to pose interesting questions of the players and give them opportunities to judge their own characters.

Maddman posted:

Dogs is my second favorite indie game, right after Dread. I so want to hack it into a star wars game, where rather than dogs the PCs are Jedi Knights in the Old Republic, traveling from system to system to protect the innocent.

Rather than the debate->physical->punches->guns escalation, it would go negotiations->Physical->The Force->Lightsabers.

Then you add another level, with a big bowl of black d12s in the middle of the table. Going to lose the lightsaber fight? Raise the stakes by giving in to the Dark Side.

Maddman posted:

I know a guy that ran a Cops in the Hood game, with the PCs being cops in a drug/crime ridden area full of corruption.

Maddman posted:

Dogs is my second favorite indie game, right after Dread. I so want to hack it into a star wars game, where rather than dogs the PCs are Jedi Knights in the Old Republic, traveling from system to system to protect the innocent.

Rather than the debate->physical->punches->guns escalation, it would go negotiations->Physical->The Force->Lightsabers.

Then you add another level, with a big bowl of black d12s in the middle of the table. Going to lose the lightsaber fight? Raise the stakes by giving in to the Dark Side.

Squizzle posted:

One of my dream games would be a hack of DitV for TNG-style Star Trek. Cruise on over to a planet, discover what major issue you're confronting this week, and set about resolving it. The escalation would be something like discussion -> "standard" technology (warp engines go fast, transporters teleport things, etc.) -> technobabble -> violence.

Fuzz posted:

Dogs in the Vineyard is one I didn't see mentioned yet.


Seems like a neat system, and is very reminiscent of Stephen King's The Dark Tower, but sadly I never found anyone to play with, and by nature it's not something you could play as a PBP... maybe over ventrilo/skype or IRC or something.

BlackIronHeart posted:

It seems interesting but from what I've been told and read, it sounds like the way the game is played is to argue with the other players the entire time. Is that an unfair assessment?

BlackIronHeart posted:

I'll definitely check out the podcasts when I have free time, thanks. I'm not sure if I'm eager to play the game (I don't really enjoy PVP) but I do appreciate the replies.

Doc Hawkins posted:

I've never seen a dog actually draw iron on a brother dog, but as long as it was at an appropriately dramatic moment, it would be pretty awesome.

Kestral posted:

For a contrasting perspective, I've never seen a Dogs game where this didn't happen, and Dog-on-Dog violence is very common in Actual Plays. It seems like the natural end-state of any Dogs game that goes beyond a couple of sessions. And yes, it is always awesome. Everyone goes into it knowing that there's no way for it to end well for either party once it gets to this point.

Then again I've only played DitV one-shots where the incentive to play balls to the wall and go for high stakes is very present.

BlackIronHeart posted:

If my character thinks his moral compass is correct and true, why would he ever back down?

Doc Hawkins posted:

Gee, I don't know, why do people not escalate to shouting, fisticuffs and gun battles every time their co-workers don't agree with them?

Doc Hawkins posted:

Gee, I don't know, why do people not escalate to shouting, fisticuffs and gun battles every time their co-workers don't agree with them?