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Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


I wish I had listened to the other streams instead of this one because it is frustrating the gently caress out of me.

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Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
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Vergeh posted:

If people cannot place a phone call because the network is too busy, you add more towers and upgrade the network. You don't piss and moan that people are talking too much.

No, you cap their phone usage and charge ridiculous amounts for overages to encourage less phone use so you don't have to invest in infrastructure. Geez, haven't you listened to the Bell guy at all?

I really hope this poo poo backfires on them and we end up with legislation that moves us towards what other countries already have. I mean, I've lived with a lovely enough connection (satellite) that Teksavvy's 5 mbit down, 200 gb limit was heaven while I was in Waterloo, but even a (relatively, within Canada) large bandwidth limit like that is going to gradually become less, and I know a lot of people are already dissatisfied with 5/1 connections. Especially when everyone else is getting more for less.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


The Gunslinger posted:

Assuming UBB is somehow defeated, everyone is still stuck with the same 5mbit DSL they've had for the past ten years. Where are all of those infrastructure investments?

Isn't that why there's been talk about separating wholesale and retail? I'm not really sure if I'm understanding it correctly, but I thought the idea was that if they were separate, the wholesale side (and its respective shareholders) would have to rely on increased wholesale sales to make profits, which would mean providing better infrastructure for the small ISPs buying from them to provide to their own customers.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords




(Hughesnet has this weird thing where sites think I'm using a proxy and that I live in the US, hence the distance)

This and a 500 mb rolling 24-hour bandwidth limit. Rural life at its finest.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


Martytoof posted:

drat, that's harsh, and why I'll never be able to live anywhere even remotely rural.

I would have quoted this entire post but I was afraid it would knock you offline for the day

That's pretty much how it works. Even if I avoid the image/gif heavy threads, I have to watch my bandwidth usage just from checking for new posts in marked threads. 500 mb is also a paid increase from the normal limit, which is somewhere in the 350 range I think. On the plus side, there is unlimited usage from 2-7 AM, so with that speed I can at least get a couple gigs worth of stuff overnight.

Thankfully, it's actually my parents' connection, so once I move out again I can go back to using TekSavvy. And in a couple years when my parents' contract is finished, I think Bell has finally gotten some service out here, so they can switch too.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


madprocess posted:

How much good has Canadian content regulations and simulcasting and all that poo poo even done for the average Canadian? Heck even Canadian artists and the like?
It has given us Corner Gas.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


I signed a lease to rent a room in someone's house starting in August. He has a bundle through Rogers, and he's going to check to make sure but he thinks he has the Lite package. The bandwidth cap is 15 gb on that, and he said he and the one other guy living there use about half of that altogether. He said he'd look into upgrading the package if necessary (and I'm more than willing to pay the difference) but the Rogers website seems to suggest that a different modem is necessary when going from Lite to Express - the hardware it says for Lite is $100 or $4/month, but $200 or $7/month for Express. He already has everything working through wireless, so I'm not sure if he has the cheaper modem with a separate router, or the modem/router combo thing, or what. Is there a possibility he would actually need a new modem to switch?

Alternatively, since the land line in the house is completely unused, would it be possible for me to use that for a dry loop DSL connection from Teksavvy without disrupting the Rogers services? I'd probably need to use my own router for that as well, and I have no idea how much two routers in a small house would interfere with one another (although as I typed that I realized that apartment buildings are probably the same thing but worse, and I don't remember having a problem).

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


I already have my own modem and router from when I had an account with Teksavvy last year, so I'm set as far as that's concerned. I had the 200 gb plan and a roommate at the time and we still didn't manage to go over, so I should be fine with the same package again, especially since it's 300 gb now. I'm mostly just concerned that it would somehow disrupt the Rogers services, although if that should be alright (technician screwups excepted) that sounds like my best plan.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


Stanley Pain posted:

You can dual and triple provision a premise with cable as well. If he has Rogers cable and you want to get Teksavvy/Cable for yourself, you can.
That sounds even more like it is inviting potential setup blunders. On the other hand, I just checked and Teksavvy cable is available there and only $28/$37 for the two lower packages compared to the $41 it would cost for dry-loop. The $37/month cable package is also twice as fast, at least down. I'll have to talk to the landlord about all this, of course, but I'm definitely interested.

Ah, looks like I would have to get a new modem for the cable as well. Still looks good though.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


cowofwar posted:

Then why can't you just unplug the cable going from your computer to your router and plug it directly in to your modem?

Twiin posted:

My router and modem are about thirty feet apart. Plus about another thirty feet of cable to the PC.
Probably doesn't have a sixty foot cable.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


Holy poo poo.

So I moved into a new place at the beginning of the month, and my landlord switched to Rogers Extreme (100 GB limit) sometime in the second week. I used a fair bit of bandwidth reading hilarious comedy on the internet (including a few picture threads in GBS), and utorrent tells me I've transferred about 4.5 GB total there as well, but I thought I was being pretty careful overall.

On the 17th, I got a notification that we were already at 75% of the bandwidth limit. I thought "okay, this isn't that big a deal, I'll just go back to being super conservative for the rest of the billing period and after that just be a lot more careful - 25 GB should last a few weeks anyway."

On the morning of the 20th, I got a notification saying we hit 100% of the usage. That's 25 GB of bandwidth gone in three days. I don't have access to the Rogers bandwidth tracker, so that morning I installed NetMeter so I could see how much bandwidth I've actually been using. Should've done it earlier, really, but too late now.

My landlord was gone for the weekend and just got back, so I asked him to check the Rogers site for me and he just printed off the daily usage totals for the month for me. Here's the past few days' totals:

code:
Day         Download (MB)  Upload (MB)
Aug-20      1,019          46
Aug-19      3,299          2,233
Aug-18      2,565          2,854
Aug-17      8,703          5,186
Aug-16      5,817          4,743
Aug-15      4,796          7,758
2 GB uploaded? A day with almost 8 GB uploaded? And this is with no torrents running. My landlord said he suspected his computer had a virus, but even then those numbers seem pretty ridiculous. There's another guy living here too, so it's possible he had something to do with it, but I doubt it considering the two of them were on the 15 GB package before I moved in.

He's going to call Rogers soon and get this sorted out, and I'm probably going to end up helping him back everything up and restore his computer, but good lord does this ever suck.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


Eej posted:

FWIW even if you're browsing hilarious picture threads 4 hours a day you'll be lucky to push a gig or two.
I know, right? Like I said, I installed NetMeter yesterday morning and then gone about my usual business (sitting at my computer) the past couple days, and even after redownloading Visual C# Express I'm at a grand total of 500 MB transferred.

Edit: VVVVV True, but like I said, I haven't even had utorrent running the past few days, and the statistics in utorrent say I've uploaded a grand total of 522 MB since I installed it earlier in the month.

Armor-Piercing fucked around with this message at Aug 22, 2011 around 01:25

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Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

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Teksavvy's website insists on using the same postal code for billing, shipping, and service addresses even if I say they're different addresses. Has anyone been able to get around this? I'd rather not have to sit through wait times and have to spell out two addresses and my billing info over the phone, if possible.

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