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After correcting for inflation I'm paying the same amount now as I did ten years ago for significantly worse internet service. I used to have an unlimited (~100gig) cap with speeds of up to 7mbit and now have some terrible garbage 30gig package at the same speeds. The telecom situation is a joke in Canada. Revenue per customer is the highest in the world for cell phones and I'm sure it will soon be the same for net connections. The most ridiculous thing is the packages offered by ISPs. They increase your speeds with better packages but barely touch the bandwidth allotment. So once you're past the midrange package they start gouging you with no mercy. And honestly, 30gigs of bandwidth is laughable in this day and age. 3/10/$25 7/30/$32 14/60/$42 16/125/$76 30/125/$60 50/150/$100
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2010 22:45 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 12:36 |
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Ceyton posted:At least the USA has pockets of good service here and there. Show me a place in Canada where I can get a fiber circuit to my house for less than the equivalent of a full-time salary. Or even a 20+ mbps unmetered connection. I live about 100km from wightman telecom service area. 20mbps, $39/mo, unmetered. Looks like that's just about the only decent provider in canada though.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2010 06:22 |
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Nitr0 posted:I think you're forgetting that a majority of Canadians live in areas where high speed internet isn't reliable or even that fast. People are lucky to get 4Mb/s on DSL in most areas. Satellite and cable will be around for a long while still. So yeah, no. quote:St. John's (N.L.) 187.6 cowofwar fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Nov 18, 2010 |
# ¿ Nov 18, 2010 22:09 |
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Meanwhile all the political parties argue over stupid, irrelevant poo poo.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2011 05:46 |
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Godinster posted:God I loving hate Bell.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2011 04:52 |
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less than three posted:For any of you who switched to Telus (or remember their PR guy saying on TV that they wouldn't be charging overages.) Or perhaps, you are being hosed in the rear end on the street when a kind man offers you safety in his house, thankful for the offer you accept and enter the house at which point he locks you in the basement and fucks you in the rear end for three years.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2011 02:31 |
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Nitr0 posted:Maybe they're going to use that additional revenue to upgrade! :x
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2011 01:50 |
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Can you imagine having to be the staffer that has to explain how ISPs work to a dinosaur CPC politician? Even the young ones are retards that can probably barely work a computer.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 01:13 |
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Most utilities will charge you a basic fee for service and then a usage fee. So like $10/month as a base fee then your usage on top of that at market rates. Electric utilities, water utilities and gas utilities all already do this. So isn't the problem just establishing a fair market rate for bandwidth? Why can't I see the following on my bill? $10: account and infrastructure base fee $0.25: 5gb @ 0.05/gb $10.25 total Why isn't this an option? Is it because the monopolies own the infrastructure which means they can set the bandwidth cost to whatever they want? I mean $2 per gigabyte is ludicrous and obviously being set out of thin air.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2011 03:01 |
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Here I made you guys something.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2011 03:45 |
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quote:as a general rule, ordinary consumers served by Small ISPs should not have to fund the bandwidth used by the heaviest residential Internet consumers
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2011 18:49 |
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The Gunslinger posted:I submitted some pretty lengthy comments but I forgot to use an analogy involving cars and electricity so the CRTC will probably disregard them.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2011 18:51 |
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Bell wants to talk about "fairness".
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2011 22:49 |
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If I get a phone line I can talk as much as I want. If I get a TV package I can watch as much TV as I want. If I get an internet plan I can only use it at max speed for six hours a month. And Bell wants to talk about 'fairness'.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2011 05:22 |
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It's basically double dipping. If Bell tiered its internet packages based on data transfer caps 90+% of the population would get the cheapest package. But if they tier it based on speeds they probably get a much higher number of people springing for the more expensive packages because 'faster' is a much more easily understood metric than 'more data'. And then Bell decides to double dip by now putting caps on the plans. So paying an extra $50 a month only gets you speed, you need to pay another $50 on top of that to get higher data limits. Basically the same thing that airlines are doing. Take one old simple service, break it down into its basic components and then charge the user for each component. a $499 flight now becomes a $400 flight + $100 taxes + $40 baggage + $20 food + $20 convenience charges, etc.. A customer will pay more overall if instead of getting one thing he now gets two. Need to make more money off your chocolate bars? Replace the one 100g bar with two 40g bars and then market it as 'more'. cowofwar fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Feb 11, 2011 |
# ¿ Feb 11, 2011 05:47 |
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l33t HAXOR posted:In case anyone missed the closing statements on The Agenda last night it's worth a watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IlHpHxRhNs0
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2011 02:14 |
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Cogecrap. Hopefully that speedtest didn't blow through my tiny bandwidth limit.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2011 23:00 |
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To be honest if you're using wireless to provide a net connection to your main computer on which you want speedy transfers you're retarded. Wireless is for the laptop on the couch or the iPad in the kitchen; not for the office computer. I see people doing this all time. They have their cable modem plugged into a wireless router right next to their main computer picking up signal via wifi and then they complain about latency and speeds.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2011 22:06 |
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PhancyPants posted:The laptop on the couch was the only place I was trying anything out, mostly because I was also breaking in a new sectional this weekend as well. The laptop, my phone, and my iPad are the only things I use wifi on, but they also make up 90% of my home computing. Everything else is wired in with gigE for transcoded video from my office PC.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2011 23:37 |
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teethgrinder posted:Tony Clement was a good ally in the first round.
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# ¿ May 3, 2011 15:56 |
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People still have 10mbps gateways and routers. Obviously if a customer is getting 10mbps instead of 15mbps they would want to make sure that it's not a hardware limitation. Also since it sounds like you're using wireless and your computer is far away it could simply be a wi-fi issue. I don't understand why you don't have a wired connection to your computer. Go buy a fifty foot ethernet cable and enjoy all the benefits of having to use wi-fi.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2011 11:39 |
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Twiin posted:I've got a wired connection. No WiFi.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2011 00:45 |
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Awesome: http://stopthecap.com/2011/08/03/cogeco-customers-pay-for-companys-european-mess-rate-hikes-sooth-portuguese-write-off/ So we have Cogeco and neither TekSavvy DSL nor cable is available to us. gently caress monopolies.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2011 02:03 |
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Kachunkachunk posted:I always thought that the plural of Lego was still Lego, too. :P
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2011 12:36 |
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If my internet goes out and I'm a residential customer I don't see why I'm not entitled to get pissed off. The internet is a utility just like gas and hydro. Those rarely go out and if they do it's only because of some significant event. ISP service goes down all the time and it should not be acceptable. My lovely Cogeco connection dies at least once every night early in the morning because those assholes think that just because less people are using it in the early morning it is acceptable to power cycle their equipment or do maintenance. The fact that being able to pause/resume incomplete downloads is so prevalent is a sad testament to the shitness of ISPs. When you're browing the net you don't notice the periodic hiccups but when you need to maintain an open connection for eight hours you sure notice. cowofwar fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Sep 5, 2011 |
# ¿ Sep 5, 2011 23:44 |
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MA-Horus posted:Cogeco is honestly a really bad ISP. As bad as the rest of them (Teksavvy excluded I suppose). When I was working there I'd say anywhere from 1/4-1/2 of the issues I dealt with were company related, not customer related. Slow/Intermittent speeds because the techs didn't wanna do a proper install, hilariously crappy modems, constant outages, blatant lies from sales staff(Oh yes sir, that 5 year old samsung modem will be able to do your HSIPro connection-No it won't because it can't but throughput faster than 10mbps) Just a terrible company all round. No wait, it's terrible.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2011 06:05 |
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Daynab posted:So what happened today with satellites? Xplornet went down from something like 7 am and didn't come back up till 1 am, and strangely Shaw tv also went down and came up at around the same time.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2011 17:42 |
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Im_Special posted:Is it just me or does Telus just not monitor bandwidth usage? I've never seen there usage tracker ever work under my account page and I've monitored my own bandwidth from my router that ranged in the 300-500~ in just one month just to see if Telus would react and they never do, did I some how fall through the cracks and have unlimited usage? This has been going on for maybe 9 years.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2012 14:59 |
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Seems like you could just have a separate torrent box then format an ghost it every month after copying your files to a flash drive.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 00:04 |
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I have both an appleTV and a mac mini hooked up to my TV and they complement each other well. I can grab almost anything I want from torrents or web page streams on the mac mini.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2013 18:11 |
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So Cogeco sucks rear end. We pay for the Turbo 20 plan and get like 20% of that speed in evenings.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2013 02:36 |
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cowofwar posted:
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2013 05:23 |
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rhag posted:For me both those points do not make any sense whatsoever. I do not see anything "smug" about them, just nonsense "consumer grade" networking. There is no reason whatsoever for anyone to use that, other than laziness.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2013 11:59 |
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I pay cogeco for 20mbps and it was doing 1mbps last night as usual.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2013 13:29 |
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Ugh. The LTE on my Rogers iPhone demolishes my Cogeco cable wireless on the same phone. The cable has poo poo latency, poo poo bandwidth, and constantly drops. It's embarassing.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2013 17:21 |
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CirrusPlanetSteve posted:I put together some info about the changes, I encourage everyone to repost this anywhere Canadians can see it. This is ridculous and borderline robbery, call down or go into a chat and be vocal about it. Just remember you are yelling at Shaw not the frontline staff.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2014 01:05 |
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My dry loop fee for DSL through teksavvy was just $5.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2014 05:46 |
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Vintersorg posted:Shaw did what everyone found out even after they said they wouldn't. This is just the reality of over selling their service. Now that peoples' usage is scaling up the insufficiencies of the networks is showing itself. When they sold you unlimited they could only do that when the average usage was 0.001 mbps. Now that the average usage is 0.01 mbps they have to scale everything back. I have bad news for you if you think this is the end because you will be paying another $30 more in five years when the average usage is 0.1mbps.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2015 01:13 |
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The Dark One posted:Great move on Bell's part to use the same branding for both ADSL/VDSL and FTTH. No matter where you live and how lovely their offerings in that area are, they can use the sheen of fiber almost being in the name to make it sound good.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2015 00:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 12:36 |
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Only way you're getting FTTH is if you buy in to a new development. It will never be routed to existing single occupancy dwellings aside by individuals by either the companies or the government.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2015 04:46 |