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Daniel Craig is looking kind of ... weathered these days. Like a badass mesa or something.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 00:29 |
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sebmojo posted:Daniel Craig is looking kind of ... weathered these days. Like a badass mesa or something. He's looked pretty weathered ever since he was first concieved, in a cro-magnon stonemason's workshop.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 00:45 |
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I guess Eon answered the question no one asked: Does Craig's Bond still have the iconic DB5?
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| # ? May 22, 2012 00:46 |
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I am so pumped to see Mendes do an action movie, not to mention one so beautifully shot. I also kind of hope that odd version of the theme at the end as the title appears is indication of where Thomas Newman is taking it. I'd dig that.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 00:59 |
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I couldn't help noticing that this: Looked kinda like a throwback to this:  And other Sean Connery shots I've seen with him around the Aston.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 01:35 |
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Homie S posted:I couldn't help noticing that this: Tend to forget about it during the movies but it's comparisons like this that remind one how much shorter Craig is than the average. All previous Bonds were tall, though the movies weren't always shot to really emphasize that. Brosnan and Dalton specifically don't usually seem that tall, but Connery is frequently towering.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:06 |
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Lobok posted:Tend to forget about it during the movies but it's comparisons like this that remind one how much shorter Craig is than the average. All previous Bonds were tall, though the movies weren't always shot to really emphasize that. Brosnan and Dalton specifically don't usually seem that tall, but Connery is frequently towering. Something about Craig being shorter makes his whole 'collected until he decides to tear your poo poo apart' demeanor even scarier. That's something I've been thinking about since I saw the trailer this morning: The other Bonds have been entertaining, impressive, aloof, cocky ... they've run a gamut. I don't remember one being frightening, though, and Craig's Bond has that down pretty well.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:31 |
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Timby posted:I can't get over just how loving beautifully this movie has been shot. Holy balls. I'm still nervous about the script being done by the three-headed monster of Purvis, Wade and John loving Logan, but if anything the film will be gorgeous to look at for two hours. It does look gorgeous but I'll reserve judgment until I get a sense of how it's edited. QoS was pretty as well but we all know how well it was cut.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:37 |
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Toaster Beef posted:That's something I've been thinking about since I saw the trailer this morning: The other Bonds have been entertaining, impressive, aloof, cocky ... they've run a gamut. I don't remember one being frightening, though, and Craig's Bond has that down pretty well. The quips and one-liners largely destroyed their ability.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 03:44 |
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I always thought Connery's casual brutishness was scary in its own way.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 04:03 |
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I am so pumped to see Mendes do an action movie, not to mention one so beautifully shot. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Thomas Newman and I'd really be interested in seeing how he handles that electronic sound-- not to mention that it'll absolutely suit whatever hi-tech, neon-drenched fighting happens in Shanghai.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 04:15 |
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Lobok posted:Tend to forget about it during the movies but it's comparisons like this that remind one how much shorter Craig is than the average. All previous Bonds were tall, though the movies weren't always shot to really emphasize that. Brosnan and Dalton specifically don't usually seem that tall, but Connery is frequently towering. I never thought about it, but every bond less Moore and Craig have been 6'2". Moore was 6'1", and Craig is 5'10".
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| # ? May 22, 2012 06:12 |
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The word association guy looks super familiar to me, does anyone recognize him? I checked IMDB but I couldn't figure out who it is (assuming he's even listed)
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| # ? May 22, 2012 12:22 |
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I'm loving the balance with shadow and shot composition in this trailer:
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| # ? May 22, 2012 12:34 |
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colonel_korn posted:The word association guy looks super familiar to me, does anyone recognize him? I checked IMDB but I couldn't figure out who it is (assuming he's even listed) I'm pretty sure he's Posca in Rome. At least, I think so.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 12:40 |
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Darko posted:I'm loving the balance with shadow and shot composition in this trailer: Amazing shot. My girlfriend was very excited as she picked up the waterjet cut case for this gun and also got to play with another ~thing~. Someone mentioned the throwback to that connery shot and it's something i love about the new bond films. The throwbacks to previous films really help to tie the series together and maintain the brand while allowing the character to develop. Imo craig's bond has to have more stylistic throwbacks as he is so much more raw then the ones of old.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 12:42 |
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Midnight- posted:I'm pretty sure he's Posca in Rome. At least, I think so. YES! That's it, thanks a lot. I can't believe I couldn't put my finger on that, I've watched each season of Rome at least twice.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 13:01 |
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:
And the throwbacks haven't been Die Another Day levels of stupid either.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 13:51 |
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Midnight- posted:I'm pretty sure he's Posca in Rome. At least, I think so. Brutus was M's assistent in Casino
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| # ? May 22, 2012 13:55 |
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GD_American posted:The quips and one-liners largely destroyed their ability. I don't know, the one from QoS was pretty good if only because M heard it over a phone and realized that Bond had killed someone again. The problem is, it's sort of a nudge and wink to the audience as a reminder that previous Bonds had some sort of rejoinder or quip for every situation. The setup and delivery in QoS were both great, but you couldn't really pull that off a second time (or more) and expect the tonal shift that we've had with the Craig Bond movies to really stick. ElectricSheep fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 20:11 |
| # ? May 22, 2012 20:08 |
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Matlock posted:I never thought about it, but every bond less Moore and Craig have been 6'2". Moore was 6'1", and Craig is 5'10". I remember years ago (back in the Dalton days) reading an article about "The Incredible Shrinking Bond" that mentioned that each actor who played Bond had been shorter than the previous. The article then very confidently stated that Mel Gibson would be the next Bond 
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| # ? May 22, 2012 22:25 |
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Someone mentioned the throwback to that connery shot and it's something i love about the new bond films. The throwbacks to previous films really help to tie the series together and maintain the brand while allowing the character to develop. Imo craig's bond has to have more stylistic throwbacks as he is so much more raw then the ones of old. My favourite one of those is 'Bond. James Bond' at the end of Casino Royale. Followed by the music cue you've been subconsciously prepped to hear for 2 hours. Because I mean god drat.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 04:55 |
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sebmojo posted:My favourite one of those is 'Bond. James Bond' at the end of Casino Royale. Followed by the music cue you've been subconsciously prepped to hear for 2 hours. The best thing about rewatching it is how you notice the music is building up to the theme. As he becomes more and more bond like it becomes more and more familiar.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 05:25 |
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Homie S posted:I couldn't help noticing that this: Those are two of the sexiest shots ever birthed by cinema. Jesus in Heaven I could stare at them for hours.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 16:59 |
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Even though Quantum was kind of garbage, Craig was still great. Craig's more like the savage Bond of the novels. The Connery films tended to play up Bond's suaveness, although Connery was always great at being an animal when needed. The more I think about it, the more I think Brosnan was often very good in his Bond movies (except in the second half of Die Another Day where he seemed to stop caring). But he was never Bond, really.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 18:43 |
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I think Brosnan was very good at playing everyone's idea of James Bond at that point. James Bond as the pop culture icon and all the things people associate with him rather than James Bond the actual character. That's not a bad thing at all and he did a good job of it, it worked especially well in Goldeneye.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 18:55 |
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Brosnan was better than the scripts they gave him. Each installment of his Bond has subtle dark moments that were woven into them almost to pacify the actor's need to play Bond as a darker character rather than an iconic playboy.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 19:38 |
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Brosnan's Bond was balanced. Neither as goofy as Moore nor as brutal as Dalton (or Craig). Whether you think that makes him the perfect Bond or a soulless, inoffensive advertising mannequin seems to be pretty subjective. I thought he was good in the role, but prefer Connery or Craig. Also, intensely nerdy comment: Craig's DB5 (from the photo a few posts up) has the same license plate as Connery's did in Goldfinger and Thunderball. I'm really happy about that for some reason.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 20:05 |
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Yeah I always liked how Brosnan's Bond could alternate between doing absolutely campy as hell stuff and serious scenes that required a lighter touch. Goldeneye gives him plenty of opportunities to do both.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 22:10 |
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As great as Goldeneye is, I always got the feeling that no one was sure what to do and I feel that in that movie Brosnan seems to channel Dalton a lot (right down to the hair), and by TND/TWINE he felt more comfortable and got a firmer grip on who he was.
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| # ? May 23, 2012 23:59 |
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HisFlyingFingers posted:Brosnan's Bond was balanced. Neither as goofy as Moore nor as brutal as Dalton (or Craig). Whether you think that makes him the perfect Bond or a soulless, inoffensive advertising mannequin seems to be pretty subjective. I thought he was good in the role, but prefer Connery or Craig. The car in Goldeneye (the one that had the race with the Ferrari 355) had that license plate as well. I love it. 
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| # ? May 24, 2012 02:03 |
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MichiganCubbie posted:The car in Goldeneye (the one that had the race with the Ferrari 355) had that license plate as well. I love it.  Not quite. (God drat I'm a nerd.)
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| # ? May 24, 2012 03:13 |
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I always liked Brosnan's take on Bond - the guy who gets off on all of the perks of the job (the fine living, the beautiful women, the toys) but hates what it makes him do. That scene in TND where he's sitting in the hotel room with a bottle of vodka and a silenced gun, just waiting, is great... it's equal parts ice-cold professionalism and personal disgust. This works as a moment or scene in an otherwise light-hearted action romp, and gives the character a certain weight the rest of the movie doesn't provide. Two problems arise with this, however. The first, and most glaring, is that the scripts never did anything with this character. TND stands out as them trying to write for the character as Brosnan was playing it, while the others all end up playing out the same "Bond is betrayed by someone he cares about" angle. It worked once in GoldenEye, but it plays to much less impressive results in TWINE and DAD. DAD especially, since there was no real reason for Frost to betray Bond, at all. The other is that, probably at Brosnan's own insistence, this idea of trying to have him play with a darker character undermines one of Brosnan's strengths in the role, namely his sense of physical timing and grace. I love watching moments like Bond casually catching people in doors without glancing in [i]GoldenEye[i]; when they replicate that moment in TWINE, where he catches a guy in the knees with a trapdoor and makes him somersalt over it and fall through the hole Bond just exited, it plays like a bad joke due to the more self-serious and pondersome tone of the whole picture. Brosnan's Bond doesn't work when the whole picture is serious throughout.
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| # ? May 24, 2012 03:16 |
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The use of product placement in Bond has always been somewhat fascinating, but it wasn't until the most recent controversy that I realized just how much money goes into it. Heineken have apparently paid 45 MILLION DOLLARS for their beers to be used in the movie (and as the article points out, they've been involved in the Bond movies for years now). There's nothing new in this controversy, I recall reading years ago about the furor that kicked up when a "low class" cigarette company paid a huge amount of money to have Bond smoke one of their cigarettes on-screen. BMW replaced Aston Martin for at least 2-3 films in the Brosnan era, Omega watches are synonymous with Bond etc. As long as it fits in with the movie and doesn't stand out like dog's balls, does it really matter?
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| # ? May 24, 2012 23:11 |
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Jerusalem posted:BMW replaced Aston Martin for at least 2-3 films in the Brosnan era I remember that being huge news during the buildup to GoldenEye, and the producers making a huge deal about the switch, and then in GoldenEye, we see the BMW in the lab ... and for like twenty seconds driving through Cuba. The car did nothing, and I loved it. And it was three films, yes. Ford supposedly forked out like $35 million to get Bond in Ford / Aston-Martin / Jaguar vehicles in Die Another Day.
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Jerusalem posted:There's nothing new in this controversy, I recall reading years ago about the furor that kicked up when a "low class" cigarette company paid a huge amount of money to have Bond smoke one of their cigarettes on-screen. BMW replaced Aston Martin for at least 2-3 films in the Brosnan era, Omega watches are synonymous with Bond etc. As long as it fits in with the movie and doesn't stand out like dog's balls, does it really matter? That's always been part of the fantasy, even in the books, that Bond indulged in real-life luxury products. Bond movies should be one of the few movies where obscene amounts of product placement is acceptable. The Heineken controversy is dumb because people think that's all he'll be drinking in the movie. It's not out until November! Also the real Bond watch is the Rolex Submariner, but apparently Omega is making a special model for Skyfall that matches Daniel Craig's eyes 
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| # ? May 25, 2012 05:34 |
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I belive it was stated Bond would drink the beer in Skyfall. Who knows it might be a quick 20 second bar scene like with Felix in QoS or an inflight drink somewhere before he has a classy martini at some party. Edit: I remember a few laughs from the audience when we see the road moving sideways when Bonds in the bahamas and then suddenly a Ford Focus comes into view, it was a good way of bond winning the aston martin, why would a new spy have such an expensive classic car? Casino Royal was full of product placement though, sony equipment everywhere (his phone and the security blu-ray were biggish placements) then a ton of things in the airport scene including the Virgin flight that does the touch and go landing. drunkill fucked around with this message at May 25, 2012 around 06:40 |
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drunkill posted:I belive it was stated Bond would drink the beer in Skyfall. Who knows it might be a quick 20 second bar scene like with Felix in QoS or an inflight drink somewhere before he has a classy martini at some party. I believe it was a Ford Mondeo actually, much classier.
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| # ? May 25, 2012 08:31 |
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drunkill posted:I belive it was stated Bond would drink the beer in Skyfall. Who knows it might be a quick 20 second bar scene like with Felix in QoS or an inflight drink somewhere before he has a classy martini at some party. Product placement is almost integral to the bond films and I love it. Best bit about the virgin plug was Branson paying an extra million to get into the film.
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| # ? May 25, 2012 09:06 |
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Was it Goldeneye or TWINE that was near enough funded entirely by product placement?
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