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Jerusalem posted:I would quite like to see this movie. I would like one (1) ticket to the local premiere of this film as well. I'd also like a conditional 2nd ticket if it's as awesome as it looks.
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The thing that irked me about Casino Royale is that in the movie there is a good 10-15 minutes where it feels like the film just doesn't know where it wants to go. Le Chiffre is dead, Bond is safe, and they show a bunch of scenes of Bond frolicing around with Vesper and it goes on for a little while until the film finally realizes it's time to make something happen with the plot when you finally have Vesper going to the bank.
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blackguy32 posted:The thing that irked me about Casino Royale is that in the movie there is a good 10-15 minutes where it feels like the film just doesn't know where it wants to go. Le Chiffre is dead, Bond is safe, and they show a bunch of scenes of Bond frolicing around with Vesper and it goes on for a little while until the film finally realizes it's time to make something happen with the plot when you finally have Vesper going to the bank. Seriously. Whenever I rewatch Casino Royale, from the scene where Bond wakes up post-torture to the scene where he goes after Mr. White, I just tune out. The whole Venice sequence is dull. Even the action-y parts of the Venice sequence are just kinda off to me.
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It's a clumsy final act in part because of the fact you're not really informed till right at the very end what Vesper's motives were - and even then it being delivered by a curt M insinuates Bond's a bit idiotic. It's not till the very end of the film that you realise that Vesper being blackmailed has in part caused her to be attracted to Bond as she sees him as a way out of her mess - and she appears free until Cyclops appears. This is where the film deviates from the book where Vesper simply kills herself and leaves a note saying she fears she cannot escape SMERSH and by being with Bond only endangers him. In the film there's a fair hint that Vesper knows she's stringing Bond along, the scene on the beach where he goes on about tells is basically affirming to us he has no idea she's about to double cross him - she seems worried for a bit that he'd seen though her - again we're left sitting through all this wondering what does it all mean. By the time Bond reaches Vesper I expected her to somehow explain herself and not end up as a damsel in distress as Bond clearly states he wants to kill her, so there's a dramatic beat missing somewhere as you have quite a lot of dramatic build up in the characters that's boiling over - it just comes off as poignant but flat. To a degree it does make the final scene far more punchy as we see Bond channel his loss into something that drives him forward - but at what cost? WebDog fucked around with this message at Aug 2, 2012 around 05:25 |
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Cacator posted:Haha, they brought back the signature gun from Licence to Kill. thanks for posting these. i didn't even really notice this movie much until tdkr came out. really looking forward to seeing this movie now.
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It's not fair to the film but the Venice bit towards the end doesn't quite click solely because it's a Bond Film and you know there's no loving way the movie is going to end with the hero and heroine living a happy life on perma-vacation. In any other film it would've been a nice denouement with a satisfying surprise conclusion. It still works pretty well as it is, there's this nagging sense of waiting for the other shoe to drop as you know something is terribly wrong and you're trying to figure out what. You can imagine Bond himself thinking the same thing, wanting to slip into the dream with this femme fatale while a part of him knows it can't be true. It feels similar to Vertigo in that respect. Maybe his gut is trying to override his heart the whole time and that's why he spies on his partner's text messages to kick off that finale? Tender Bender fucked around with this message at Aug 2, 2012 around 08:54 |
| # ? Aug 2, 2012 08:45 |
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The entire Venice sequence is the best part of Casino Royale, by far.
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| # ? Aug 2, 2012 09:00 |
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Maybe I'm crazy, but Javier Bardem in the Skyfall trailer looks too much like John Malkovich did in Johnny English.
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| # ? Aug 2, 2012 11:14 |
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blackguy32 posted:The thing that irked me about Casino Royale is that in the movie there is a good 10-15 minutes where it feels like the film just doesn't know where it wants to go. Le Chiffre is dead, Bond is safe, and they show a bunch of scenes of Bond frolicing around with Vesper and it goes on for a little while until the film finally realizes it's time to make something happen with the plot when you finally have Vesper going to the bank. That's basically the book, too. The first two thirds are really enjoyable and then the end is just Bond going for a swim naked.
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| # ? Aug 2, 2012 11:30 |
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I don't think the entire Venice sequence is trash, because the movie does pick up quite a bit later. But the movie could have ended there and I would have been none the wiser. I mean the movie does kind of end on a cliffhanger anyways. But I have never read the book.
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I read the book years before the movie came out so I already knew what to expect, but seeing the movie I did think the scenes after LeChiffre dies but before they arrived in Venice dragged a bit. They probably could have cut out about half of it and not lost anything. The action scenes in Venice are great though, and the ending is perfect. Plus I loved the bit when he shoots Gettler in the eye with a Nailgun. His loving eye! 
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| # ? Aug 2, 2012 19:42 |
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Im kind of sad that Jeffrey Wright isn't in Skyfall. That man needs to be in more movies 
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http://www.2dayfm.com.au/entertainm...20801-gv79.html ...Well, it might certainly bring out James Bond's large fanbase of pre-teen girls.
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| # ? Aug 2, 2012 22:13 |
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Who the hell is One Direction?
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Cacator posted:http://www.2dayfm.com.au/entertainm...20801-gv79.html One Direction wants to do a Bond song, so what? I'm sure Stephen Dorff would love to lead the next Tarantino film but that doesn't mean it's gonna happen. I hate when stuff like this gets reported.
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| # ? Aug 2, 2012 23:39 |
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User-Friendly posted:Who the hell is One Direction? No but seriously, I have no idea who these guys are. Didn't Muse at one time say they wanted to do a Bond theme? That could be cool.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Didn't Muse at one time say they wanted to do a Bond theme? That could be cool. No.
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 03:11 |
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Human Tornada posted:One Direction wants to do a Bond song, so what? I'm sure Stephen Dorff would love to lead the next Tarantino film but that doesn't mean it's gonna happen. You mean Something Awful isn't the Internet's #1 One Direction fansite? ...
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 03:28 |
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User-Friendly posted:Who the hell is One Direction? They're a boy band with a song whose tune is literally exactly the same as a Backstreet Boys song.
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 04:41 |
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blackguy32 posted:Im kind of sad that Jeffrey Wright isn't in Skyfall. That man needs to be in more movies
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 06:49 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:He had nothing to do in Quantum of Solace.
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Since Thomas Newman is scoring it he should write the tune to the song. David Arnold composed You Know My Name, integrated it into the score, and it was AMAZING.
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 09:41 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:He had nothing to do in Quantum of Solace. I don't see the point of shoehorning him into another movie if it doesn't make sense. Especially when there are going to be more supporting characters this time around (with both Moneypenny and Q making their return, plus whoever Ralph Fiennes is playing). Wait, is Moneypenny returning? I never understood why she wasn't in Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace. I could their argument for not including Q in their 'more realistic' take (even though I always thought he should have been the guy who helped Bond with the defibrillator in CR) but I never saw how Moneypenny didn't fit in, even if she was just M's secretary and didn't have over the top flirting with Bond.
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Chairman Capone posted:Wait, is Moneypenny returning? I never understood why she wasn't in Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace. I could their argument for not including Q in their 'more realistic' take (even though I always thought he should have been the guy who helped Bond with the defibrillator in CR) but I never saw how Moneypenny didn't fit in, even if she was just M's secretary and didn't have over the top flirting with Bond. Wasn't her last appearance in the series making out with a virtual reality James Bond? Because if so I can kinda see why they decided to take a break from the character for a little while.
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 12:03 |
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Jerusalem posted:Wasn't her last appearance in the series making out with a virtual reality James Bond? Because if so I can kinda see why they decided to take a break from the character for a little while. Hard, isn't it? Yes, very much so 
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Talks To Cats posted:Umm he had a very important role as Bond's cool spy buddy. And as an American in a British film, you know he really knows how to have a good time. In between movies they probably have lots of fun. We just don't get to see it. Guess they will wait till the next one for him to get eaten by a shark
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 14:11 |
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For all we know, a different actor will play Felix by the time he appears in another movie. I doubt the Bond producers would feed Leiter to a shark and be that true to Fleming, but hey stranger things have happened in fps Bond series.
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 14:25 |
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LaptopGun posted:For all we know, a different actor will play Felix by the time he appears in another movie. I doubt the Bond producers would feed Leiter to a shark and be that true to Fleming, but hey stranger things have happened in fps Bond series. I was just joking and I know they will not do it since they already did it in Licence to Kill.
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 14:32 |
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Chairman Capone posted:Wait, is Moneypenny returning? I never understood why she wasn't in Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace. I could their argument for not including Q in their 'more realistic' take (even though I always thought he should have been the guy who helped Bond with the defibrillator in CR) but I never saw how Moneypenny didn't fit in, even if she was just M's secretary and didn't have over the top flirting with Bond. We don't see too much of Bond sitting around in his office in these films.
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Originally Naomi Harris' character was rumored to be Moneypenny, but apparently that's no longer the case and she's playing a junior field agent named Eve. So nevermind.
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 17:52 |
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A traveling buddy Bond wants to gently caress is just an update of the 50's white collar fantasy of loving one of the girls in the typing pool.
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 18:31 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Originally Naomi Harris' character was rumored to be Moneypenny, but apparently that's no longer the case and she's playing a junior field agent named Eve. So nevermind. Remember when in Dark Knight Rises, Marion Cottilard was rumored to be Talia, and the producers said no she's a completely different character, and that completely different character was Talia all along?
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| # ? Aug 3, 2012 21:28 |
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jscolon2.0 posted:Remember when in Dark Knight Rises, Marion Cottilard was rumored to be Talia, and the producers said no she's a completely different character, and that completely different character was Talia all along? So what you're telling us is James Bond is Batman?
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Vagabundo posted:So what you're telling us is James Bond is Batman?
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| # ? Aug 4, 2012 02:11 |
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jscolon2.0 posted:Remember when in Dark Knight Rises, Marion Cottilard was rumored to be Talia, and the producers said no she's a completely different character, and that completely different character was Talia all along? Moneypenny doesn't usually assassinate Bond in the field. Or go into the field at all. Also, Talia's presence was the big third act twist. I doubt the big twist in Skyfall is that Naomi Harris is actually the secretary at MI6.
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Rake Arms posted:Moneypenny doesn't usually assassinate Bond in the field. Or go into the field at all. Also, Talia's presence was the big third act twist. I doubt the big twist in Skyfall is that Naomi Harris is actually the secretary at MI6. Maybe that's why she puts up with Bond's poo poo? She knows she can snap that sucker's neck any time.
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| # ? Aug 4, 2012 03:28 |
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I'd be sort of mad if anyone killed Craig Bond. Craig is both relatively young and plays the part very well. If a hack like Moore get's to play bond into his golden age, and Craig get's offed, I'd be pissed.
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| # ? Aug 4, 2012 06:51 |
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Uh, do you mean someone killing Daniel Craig in real life? They are never going to kill the character James Bond.
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| # ? Aug 4, 2012 07:19 |
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James Bond has been the same age since 1962. They're not going to kill him off.
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| # ? Aug 4, 2012 07:52 |
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He'll just regenerate since he's clearly a Timelord.
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