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withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
That's not what "brick" means.

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withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
It can convert any ebook format to any other ebook format.

withak fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Nov 27, 2010

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Should have read "any ebook format that matters".

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
I'm going to sideload a sandwich and a beer.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Easiest way to check pdfs is to open in acrobat, ctrl+a to select all, they copy and paste into notepad. That is pretty much what it will look like when converted to an ebook.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

ABFA00 posted:

That's the kind of information I was looking for when I asked about PDFs. The OP just said what ones supported the file type, but not all PDFs are the same. Some of mine are just images so that seemed iffy, but others are just text which seemed like it should be perfectly fine. The FAQ now is kind of helpful but I'm still curious about the definition of "sucks". What actually happens? Do they not load at all or do they look terrible- and how terrible? If the formatting is just messed up, or images don't load but the text is fine, I don't care. Is the text small? That's fine too, I'm the only person in my family with good eyesight- for exams I always print notes 8 or 16 pages per sheet and can read everything just fine.

I have low standards. I guess what my question should have been is, is there anywhere I can actually see pictures of PDFs loaded on different ereaders. Someone mentioned using Calibre to convert to the Kindle's format to see what it'd look like- does that process work for the other readers? I tried just now for one and the formatting is a bit off but it's still perfectly fine for my purposes.

Images probably won't be there. The main thing that you lose when converting from pdf is the page layout. If the pdf has fancy columns, sidebars, tables, or anything like that then it will probably get mangled in the conversion.

Conversion tools all pretty much work the same, you could test by installing Calibre and converting some pdfs to an ebook format that you can see on your computer.

withak fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Dec 2, 2010

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Satire Forum Mom posted:

The OP only mentioned Gutenberg and Feedbooks as places to get free eBooks. Is there anywhere else?

Feedbooks is just nicely-formatted version of PG stuff. For old public domain books, pretty much any other site is going to be taken from PG originally.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
That site is illegal as hell, and even shadier if he is charging for access.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
There was an interview with Jeff Bezos a while back where he said that they consider the Kindle device and the ebooks themselves to be completely separate markets. They want to sell you hardware if they can but they are also happy to sell you books to read on someone else's hardware.

Anyway, think of this google thing more as software. It doesn't necessarily have to support the Kindle format because many devices that can access this website can also run a native Kindle app. There have also been mentions of amazon making a kindle web app before.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
The problem is that even if Amazon adds native epub support it would still only be useful for DRM-free books until Adobe gives Amazon access to their DRM system (this will never happen). Stanza on iPhone has been able to read epubs natively forever but still can't read most Adobe-made ebooks because of the DRM.

withak fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Dec 6, 2010

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Mr.Radar posted:

I thought Adobe was trying to establish its eBook DRM as the industry standard and that it was mostly Amazon who didn't want the competition from eBook stores that used Adobe DRM.

Yeah I phrased that wrong. I meant that Amazon was pretty unlikely to want to pay to license a competing ebook store on their own hardware.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2010/12/users-can-now-read-sell-full-kindle-books-online.ars

Amazon is apparently about to light up Kindle for Web, which gives you full access to you library through any web browser. That article makes it sound like it is live but it doesn't appear to be yet. This is probably in response to Google's ebook thing.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Probably Amazon doesn't want another store on there.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

The Aphasian posted:

Do people that strip the library DRM really "return" the book after that?

Library DRM just means that your license to access the file expires after a period of time.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
There is no "returning" involved with ebooks. When you check one out you get a file where the DRM is set to expire after a period of time. After that happens you might as well delete the file because it is useless, or you can keep it forever if you are the obsessive packrat type.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

big mean giraffe posted:

Other than Verizon-exclusive apps, there's nothing I am blocked from downloading.

So would you say that you don't have access to the full market?

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Samurai Sanders posted:

Can Calibre strip those kinds of problems from PDFs? I've been messing around with it a bit and all I can do is make a normal but somewhat squinty PDF into something that looks like it was written by a crazy person who loves the tab and enter keys carnally.

It may be that the wrecked formatting of a converted pdf is too crazy to fix automatically. It is a lot easier for a parser to notice and remove a linebreak every 80 characters or something.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Mortanis posted:

Wish I knew how to fix this.

A regex that removes any occurrence of one or more linebreaks not preceded by punctuation would do it. You might have to replace with a space instead if there is not a space already before or after the linebreaks.

You might still have a few left in if the stray whitespace happened to fall at the end of a sentence that wasn't the end of a paragraph though.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Southwest usually says that anything that has an on/off button must be off, and when they list things I think they actually mention ebook readers.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
It's all fun and games until someone brings down an aging 737.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
They are probably trying to maximize the likelihood of an impulse purchase. Shopping carts give you time to change your mind. Also you are more likely to keep buying I think if you have to work to see how much you are spending on books in total. Apparently that is worth more to them than the credit card fees.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

BrainParasite posted:

Anybody have experience with foot notes (end notes?) in a kindle? I want to give Infinite Jest a shot, but it sure does have a lot little numbers in superscript.

Footnotes in ebooks depend on how the publisher sets them up. Ideally the number/superscript will be a clickable link to the appropriate point in the footnotes section. There may or may not be a link back from the footnote to your place in the text, but whatever kind of back-arrow function your device/software has usually brings you back to where you were when you clicked the link.

Or there may be nothing but a number stuck into the text and you have to manually navigate to the right place in the footnotes section (assuming they bothered to include the text of the footnotes at all).

It depends on how much effort the publisher wanted to put into formatting the ebook really.

withak fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Dec 30, 2010

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Hay I just remembered that I bought Infinite Jest but never read it. :-/ Anyway, the footnotes in my copy in the iPhone Kindle app are links that point to the note text, then there is a "(back to text)" link after each note. So they pretty much did it right.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

stubblyhead posted:

You tell us. :D
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1322

http://www.amazon.com/House-Leaves-Mark-Z-Danielewski/dp/0375703764

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Fintilgin posted:

You'd think eReader software would be sophisticated enough that you could have the option of turning on 'smart' footnotes/endnotes, where they'd appear at the bottom of the 'page' you were on in a slightly different font/formating. You could have a rule where if the note was long the software wouldn't let it take up more then half a page it continued on the next page.

Literally have them dynamically injected into the text, say, after the paragraph that they were footnoted in.

Or have the option of scrolling around and clicking on them, but I really dislike that. It's clunky.

It's not the software so much as the format. Join the epub standard committee if you want to change things.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Sensurround posted:

Can someone give me a rundown on the real difference the 3G upgrade adds for the new kindle? Are you only able to use it to purchase books through the kindle store or can you use the web browser on 3G to check google maps / wikipedia / whatever? I'm struggling to see how the extra $50 would be justifiable for just the ability to get to the store but I can't find any solid info on this.

You can browse any website through the 3G connection apparently but the the eink display and built-in browser make it so you basically have to use web sites in simple html mode.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

hotsauce posted:

So, how long before Calibre is either bought or becomes a pay product? This guy spends countless hours on "donations?" Doesn't seem like a long term prospect, especially with the explosion of eReaders this past Christmas season...

Well it is open source so all he could do is make future versions for-pay. The last version before that happens would stay free and it is likely that someone else would be willing to at least maintain it with bugfixes. Depending on the license (the website isn't working so I don't know exactly what it uses) he may not even be able to use any of the current code in a for-pay project.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
The quick-and-dirty way to check how a pdf will convert is to cut and paste the entire thing into notepad.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Yeah what kind of chump doesn't recognize the floorplan of Monticello.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

BrainParasite posted:

Speaking of loving up the legal market place - has anyone noticed that many Amazon e-books have some to many typographical errors.

That is because they literally want to punish you for not buying a hard copy.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
People scanning their japanese porno comic books and posting them on the internet is definitely :filez:.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Ziir posted:

Is there a better pdf converter than calibre? I have a pdf of a quantum mechanics textbook (legally freely available from the publisher) and calibre just spent almost half an hour converting it and it looks terrible on my Kindle (oh yeah, just bought one). It seems like paragraphs or even pages are out of order.

Calibre is about as good as you will get. You either need the publisher to use real ebook format or you need a device that can render pdfs natively (i.e. without having to convert to plain text first).

Pdfs with fancy layout (columns, tables, figures, sidebars, etc.) will never convert well because the software has no way to telling in which order it is supposed to read the various blocks of text it finds scattered around each page.

withak fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Feb 7, 2011

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

The Aphasian posted:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00403MNSK?ie=UTF8&tag=blackga-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00403MNSK

Beer Is Proof God Loves Us: Reaching for the Soul of Beer and Brewing [Kindle Edition] free right now.

This is interesting, but the author needs to be beaten severely for having 2-3 endnotes per paragraph in places. And you can't even just skip them; half the time they are actually interesting information and the the rest of the time they are definitions of everyday brewing terms.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Who is picky enough to not want to shop for books at the airport but goes to the airport with nothing to read?

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

feedmegin posted:

My experience is that you can't use a standard USB cable to fast charge. Their special cable has actual extra wires in it and stuff to enable that. It will connect fine to the PC and come up as a USB device, and it will charge very very slowly off standard USB (like, overnight). I discovered this when my Nook cable stopped working :downs: Fortunately they replaced it for free.

Is that possible? Isn't the voltage on a USB port fixed by the USB spec? I remember older 2.5in HDDs in external enclosures used to have to use a two-headed USB cable that got power from two ports at once.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Wouldn't line numbers depend on the font and screen size?

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
You could switch to the far more robust method of word numbering and be singlehandely responsible for dragging your academic field kicking and screaming out of the 17th century.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Ara posted:

I got a paper copy of the complete annotated works of Shakespeare with line numbers for $1 at the clearance rack at Half Price Books, that's probably easier than fighting about it on the internet.

I'm am literally getting paid to fight about it on the internet right now.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Calibre has some regex capabilities that might help with a .mobi, but with a pdf you are probably screwed unless it can convert to a real ebook format.

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withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Ziir posted:

What's a good way to convert wikipedia articles to Kindle format for offline reading?

Probably Calibre. It has a bunch of features that convert web pages to ebook formats.

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