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Yodzilla: Apr 29, 2005; †

1000+ cars in this game and I've already won two duplicates! Augh!

Anyone want that Civic I posted about earlier or perhaps a 13 horsepower 1954 Citroen??

# ? Nov 27, 2010 17:42

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# ? May 21, 2013 12:53

Sykic: Feb 9, 2004; Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!

BlazeKinser posted:

This is very tricky to do because there's little to no indicator of how far you can cut the corner before the game says "oops, you failed".

I thought it was basically "4 wheels on the grass = you lose"?

Anyone else notice that their B-Spec driver has a favoured type of car? Mine's absolutely terrible in FR cars, but does well in 4WD and FF. And drat you guys for posting your drivers' names, mine's a "K.Rothschild" which just makes me think of some smug twat in a smoking jacket behind the wheel, but now I really want my own U.Gay.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 17:46

DaitoX: Feb 29, 2008

Cyborgmatt posted:

So I made a cool headed driver to try out the B-spec races, put him in for his first race and he was a full on hothead through the entire race and then ruined whatever positive he had by just going off at every corner.

I don't even.

I have the same.

Then I got myself a ferrari 330 P4 and put my B-spec driver in that, doing awesomely and winning everything (the races I can do with it). So he got to level 5, still can not win any other race where I can not use one of my insanely fast cars for considering the level of competitors.

So I decided to take his decent ferrari 330 P4 to amateur level and now he keeps spinning out and crashing again. I just don't understand what the gently caress I am supposed to do in B-spec I guess.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 17:49

Ted Stevens: Jun 2, 2007; by T. Finn

All I know is D. Bennett absolutely sucks driving a Cobra. I had to practically cripple that car and constantly go back to the tuning section to even get that drat thing manageable for him. He'd spin out on every drat corner. To be fair, I drove that thing and did the same a couple times.

Oh, and the first time he drove, I gave him a Civic to use. He drove like an epileptic monkey with cerebral palsy. He would hit other cars, slam right into walls, disregard turns, and get caught in any kind of guardrail or barrier. 10s of thousands of dollars in parts, and I got him working well.

Right now, I'm just getting L. Wilcox leveled up on the beginner leagues. Bennett has a fairly weak win/loss ratio, and Wilcox has a perfect one. Bennett is my experimental driver where I test gear ratios, suspension settings, and try out various cars to win. Wilcox just replays the races with the winner's cars.

The two are polar opposites, one is a huge hot-head where I have to tell him to pace down a lot, the other is Valium man and I have to keep pushing him.

Ted Stevens fucked around with this message at Nov 27, 2010 around 17:54

# ? Nov 27, 2010 17:51

BlazeKinser: Feb 28, 2003; SMEEEEEE!!!

Sykic posted:

I thought it was basically "4 wheels on the grass = you lose"?

On the TG test track the entry to most corners are very strict about you staying inside the lines. The very first corner will autofail you if your left wheels are outside the line by the time you reach the cones, same with the Hammerhead and even the entry to the Follow-through will catch you if you cut in a bit too much.

Most of the other tracks aren't nearly as strict, and while I understand it's to keep people from just plowing through the cones since there's no proper barriers, it's still frustrating because those places look like there's enough room to squeak by but you have no inidcator of how much you can push it.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 17:53

charismaslover: Dec 3, 2006; Too stylish for this world...

DaitoX posted:

Still can not win any other race where I can not use one of my insanely fast cars for considering the level of competitors.

The B-spec Vitz race was a lesson in frustration, after the first corner my driver lost his mind and started ramming into other cars and going way too fast into corners.

Thankfully due to constant micromanaging he came in first place thanks to the last corner and somehow he actually stopped another car from passing him on the final straight.

Thank christ I don't have to do that poo poo race again.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 17:54

GreatGreen: Jul 3, 2007; THIS IS HOW YOU REMIND ME OF WHAT I REALLY AM

I think there's a certain thread on Something Awful that owes einTier an apology.

And I hope these announced series of upcoming patches actually fix things people care about like adding and subtracting wanted/unwanted features in the game rather than small, SEE WE STILL CARE ABOUT THE GAME *fixes one typo in a standard car's description* bullshit patch.

Let's hope they do stuff like edit AI behavior for the better, fix the bullshit Top Gear challenges, make car delivery cutscenes skippable and get rid of painting chips, and other things that people would actually notice and would appreciate.

And for God's sake, please give us a Premium Veyron 16.4 and Veyron Super Sport premium package DLC.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 17:59

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

Who has done the Historic Racing Car Cup? What car did you use?

# ? Nov 27, 2010 17:59

Ak Gara: Jul 29, 2005; That's just the way he rolls.

If your B Spec driver is surrounded by other cars, and his Hotness is going up, tell him to slow down, if he's too Cool, he won't push himself, so tell him to speed up.

He's the quickest when he's bang in the middle. Keep telling him to speed up or slow down untill he's the meter is in the middle and then use Maintain Pace, with Overtake! when you need it

BlazeKinser posted:

Well, that I won't argue with. The way it was worded it sounded like you were saying you couldn't take pictures of standard cars, period.

That sounds more like your PS3 loving up to me because I have never heard of a game randomly ejecting itself before.

Kaz is so ashamed of releasing a game that required patches, the disc can eject it's self and commit seppuku.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:00

Lord of Sword: Dec 12, 2006; We live thinking we will never die.
We die thinking we had never lived.
Cut it out.

Does anyone know the name of the song that usually plays when you're at the race start screen? It starts with a piano and clapping hands then has children singing, but I can't find it anywhere in the soundtrack list.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:06

BlazeKinser: Feb 28, 2003; SMEEEEEE!!!

Ak Gara posted:

If your B Spec driver is surrounded by other cars, and his Hotness is going up, tell him to slow down, if he's too Cool, he won't push himself, so tell him to speed up.

He's the quickest when he's bang in the middle. Keep telling him to speed up or slow down untill he's the meter is in the middle and then use Maintain Pace, with Overtake! when you need it

Well poo poo. I'd been pegging him in the red constantly because I thought it was an indicator of how hard he was pushing the car. I didn't know it was a friggin' mood meter!

I should start reading the in-game manual and see if it actually explains this stuff, I'm so used to GT games having poorly documented features that I never thought to actually check.

quote:

Kaz is so ashamed of releasing a game that required patches, the disc can eject it's self and commit seppuku.

It's a hidden feature, if you completely total a premium Ferrari the PS3 will eject the disc with enough force to slice your head off for being unworthy of such an artful machine.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:12

slidebite: Nov 6, 2005; Happiness is a tight butt and flat tummy. I have neither but yours looks awesome BTW do you have any beer?

Ted Stevens posted:

Don't use the auto transmission, it shifts like rear end and always stays 1 gear higher than it should, killing performance

There are a few places that you can overtake a bunch of buses in one shot. The first turn you can overtake 1-2 alone, then the turns before the followthrough, Bacharat, and Gambon can be taken at much higher speed than the racing line shows. Ignore the lines, and cut corners, but not too much.

Don't pay too much attention to the racing line/braking patterns. This vehicle is too slow to really warrant braking.

Hit detection is really weird on these buses. I've had the AI nudge me and I failed. Another time I practically T-boned another bus and didn't. That being said, if you do it right, you can bounce off the buses to keep speed or take corners at high speeds.

I only passed the 1st place bus just after Gambon on the second lap, so don't worry if if you're not doing that well. I was only about .110 ahead of 2nd place.

It's entirely possible to pass in an auto, and I disagree with no braking at all as accelerating in the corners is important. But it is all in the corners and you need to get it right on the edge.

Edit: By pass, I mean get gold

slidebite fucked around with this message at Nov 27, 2010 around 18:29

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:18

anime and cars: Feb 17, 2005; _{_{_{_{_{_{_{frutella'sa badman sweet ya get me}}}}}}}

Lord of Sword posted:

Does anyone know the name of the song that usually plays when you're at the race start screen? It starts with a piano and clapping hands then has children singing, but I can't find it anywhere in the soundtrack list.

i'd like to know also because its drat catchy, i'm still missing yello - oh yea for failing the tests though!

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:20

MrLonghair: Nov 2, 2004

GreatGreen posted:

fix the bullshit Top Gear challenges

Got sixth in the bus race with a pad using manual gear. I can see fifth perhaps fourth given a lot of luck with the scripted bullshit AI, but what the gently caress. Have people gotten gold on that one yet?

And the Elise challenge. Beep beep I'm an AI car, I'm going to loving ram you off the road at the second to last turn of the final lap when you're in fourth.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:25

Minimaul: Mar 8, 2003; Reach between your legs, feel around for a bit. Do you feel balls? If the answer is "yes":
sack up and sever.

Thought this might be useful information (even if it's been posted) about used cars might help.

quote:

Since GT5 doesn't keep track of game days, following the used car rotation is extremely tricky. It requires you to keep track of how many times you have driven a car in the GT Mode part of the game, as that is what the game classes as a "day". Every time you see the loading bar, that's a "day" gone - repeatedly trying the same licence test doesn't burn a day, but entering a new licence test or special event, entering a new race or practice session counts as a day even if you don't drive anywhere.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:30

Cyborgmatt: Aug 9, 2009; Honk.

So for someone who is not accustomed with the car upgrading process, does anyone have any recommendations for me? Eg which parts to start upgrading first etc. Thanks in advanced.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:30

Boogat: Jan 5, 2006; Oh, I am serious. Look, this is my serious face.

Minimaul posted:

Thought this might be useful information (even if it's been posted) about used cars might help.

In addition to this info, 1 day brings 6 new 'used cars' into the dealership.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:39

Ted Stevens: Jun 2, 2007; by T. Finn

Depends on what the problem is. I always start out with a ECM upgrade. It's c1,000 and gives you around 10hp. Then I go for various Engine/Performance upgrades, then clutch. If the car is starting to get uncontrollable, some suspension parts are good. Problem is, it's hard for me to give a good series of upgrades, because I often end up throwing tens of thousands of dollars at the car at a time.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:40

BlazeKinser: Feb 28, 2003; SMEEEEEE!!!

MrLonghair posted:

Got sixth in the bus race with a pad using manual gear. I can see fifth perhaps fourth given a lot of luck with the scripted bullshit AI, but what the gently caress. Have people gotten gold on that one yet?

Yeah, a lot of folks have. The trick is knowing which corners you can barge into like a maniac and which ones you have to take care in. It's annoying but entirely doable.

Cyborgmatt posted:

So for someone who is not accustomed with the car upgrading process, does anyone have any recommendations for me? Eg which parts to start upgrading first etc. Thanks in advanced.

I usually go for medium sports tires and a stage 1 weight reduction before anything else, since those will have the most noticable effect on handling. If the car is a used one with high mileage an oil change is next, followed by engine and chassis rebuilds if they're not too expensive.

After that the cheap power upgrades (ECU tuning, sport catalytic converter, racing air filter, maybe a stage 1 engine tune if needed). If the car is pre 1990's, adjustable sport suspension and an upgraded clutch are must-haves.

That's usually a decent baseline to work with, from there it's a matter of deciding whether the car needs to concentrate more on speed or handling and building up from there. Just maxing a car out with the highest level upgrades is usually a waste of credits and can make the car drive far worse than it started out.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:44

einTier: Sep 25, 2003; Charming, friendly, and possessed by demons.
Approach with caution.

GreatGreen posted:

I think there's a certain thread on Something Awful that owes einTier an apology.

Thanks. But I was wrong almost as much as I was right. Let's just agree that the game was likely rushed to production since Sony wanted it by Christmas.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:49

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

MrLonghair posted:

Got sixth in the bus race with a pad using manual gear. I can see fifth perhaps fourth given a lot of luck with the scripted bullshit AI, but what the gently caress. Have people gotten gold on that one yet?

And the Elise challenge. Beep beep I'm an AI car, I'm going to loving ram you off the road at the second to last turn of the final lap when you're in fourth.

Yes plenty of people have. There is really no reason at all to be complaining about the Top Gear Challenges. Yeah they are tough but people need to get over it. Just don't do them.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:50

Cyborgmatt: Aug 9, 2009; Honk.

Regarding the engine and chassis rebuilds, do these only need to be done once or does the game take into account the mileage done after you've purchased and used it for a while?

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:51

spidoman: Feb 18, 2007

BlazeKinser posted:

Just maxing a car out with the highest level upgrades is usually a waste of credits and can make the car drive far worse than it started out.

Unless it's my 800hp+ Zonda

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:51

Lord Master: Mar 9, 2007; Would a guy with shiny teeth, a crown and a red cape lie to you?

I beat the Top Gear VW bus challenge in 3 tries (one was a retry after a DQ), using a DS3 in automatic.

You have to draft until you come to a corner, then forget the racing line even exists. Go a little harder than the racing line suggests on the inside of the corner and you should be able to pass 1-3 at a time. You don't need a lot of breaking, just enough so that you don't ram/run off course if you feel like you might.

Don't be afraid to trade a little bit of paint, but don't go out ramming the buses as I'm sure that will DQ you.

Remember that drafting is important. I basically passed the 1st guy by drafting then overtaking.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:54

BlazeKinser: Feb 28, 2003; SMEEEEEE!!!

spidoman posted:

Unless it's my 800hp+ Zonda

Every rule has an exception, I know.

Cyborgmatt posted:

Regarding the engine and chassis rebuilds, do these only need to be done once or does the game take into account the mileage done after you've purchased and used it for a while?

I'm not entirely sure when the game decides the car needs an overhaul, but I'm pretty sure you'll only have to do it once. It's more to just simulate that old high-mileage cars are going to be somewhat worn out and not at the peak of their potential.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:55

DaitoX: Feb 29, 2008

Ak Gara posted:

If your B Spec driver is surrounded by other cars, and his Hotness is going up, tell him to slow down, if he's too Cool, he won't push himself, so tell him to speed up.

He's the quickest when he's bang in the middle. Keep telling him to speed up or slow down untill he's the meter is in the middle and then use Maintain Pace, with Overtake! when you need it

Going to baby my B-spec driver and do this in the Yaris race, see how he will do. Thanks.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 18:56

MrLonghair: Nov 2, 2004

Final I-A license test is killing me. AI drivers are directly responsible for 7/10 failures and the example replay shows a player doing things that actually has you fail the test in-game.

e: "The other billion times"? Sweet, if I'm counting correct it's soon my turn to get a run where I make it without being treated like a Ghost driver you can drive right into by the AI.

edit2: FINALLY. gently caress THAT TEST AND THAT AI. (yeah, seventh) Solution was to think like I do in real life: All the other drivers are assholes out to kill you, and whammo I did it

MrLonghair fucked around with this message at Nov 27, 2010 around 19:19

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:05

Ted Stevens: Jun 2, 2007; by T. Finn

I think I just took bronze and walked away. gently caress that cheating AI. I only legitimately failed 2 or 3 times. 1st was slamming into the first Countach when he slammed on the brakes, some other collision happened, and last, I hit the last turn on the track. The other billion times were due to AI cutting me off, slamming me, ramming me off the track, etc.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:08

DrunkPanda: Apr 24, 2005; I am trolling you, CineD

28 Days Later is actually a great movie

fuck starcraft

edit: wrong thread

DrunkPanda fucked around with this message at Nov 27, 2010 around 19:12

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:10

Boogat: Jan 5, 2006; Oh, I am serious. Look, this is my serious face.

MrLonghair posted:

Final I-A license test is killing me. AI drivers are directly responsible for 7/10 failures and the example replay shows a player doing things that actually has you fail the test in-game.

Same here. I can't even count the number of times this stupid loving white Gallardo knocked me out of the race because he was trying to be super aggressive. I think it took at least 20 tries before I actually got my first finished event. By that time though, I already knew what lines to take so I was able to gold it on my first completion. But holy poo poo, that test causes so much rage

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:11

Remote User: Nov 17, 2003; Hope deleted.

I think the NASCAR challenges/races will be much easier with a wheel. So far, they're the only thing I'm having a problem with. Also, they should have kept Jeff Gordon's helmet on during his talking segments.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:11

Soup in a Bag: Dec 4, 2009

Lord of Sword posted:

Does anyone know the name of the song that usually plays when you're at the race start screen? It starts with a piano and clapping hands then has children singing, but I can't find it anywhere in the soundtrack list.

PNAU - Baby (Breakbot Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulCTotEr7qM

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:18

DaitoX: Feb 29, 2008

upperthorax posted:

I think the NASCAR challenges/races will be much easier with a wheel. So far, they're the only thing I'm having a problem with. Also, they should have kept Jeff Gordon's helmet on during his talking segments.

I hate Jeff Gordon now. He annoys me every time I hit a cone.

Micro managing the B-spec driver seems to work btw, I got 3rd now in the Yaris race. I was first on the straight but my driver brakes early for the corners. I tried micro managing before, but to me it seemed more logical that you would say "Increase Pace" when he is behind instead of in front, so I helped him to full on red faster I guess.

It is weird to tell him to slow down so he will go faster...

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:19

Danthrax: Jul 11, 2006; The Jews invented and successfully promoted Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong

Photo mode is fun, even if you're a rube like me who doesn't know anything about photography!

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:20

Ak Gara: Jul 29, 2005; That's just the way he rolls.

DaitoX posted:

I hate Jeff Gordon now. He annoys me every time I hit a cone.

Micro managing the B-spec driver seems to work btw, I got 3rd now in the Yaris race. I was first on the straight but my driver brakes early for the corners. I tried micro managing before, but to me it seemed more logical that you would say "Increase Pace" when he is behind instead of in front, so I helped him to full on red faster I guess.

It is weird to tell him to slow down so he will go faster...

Welcome to one of the most important lessons in ALL racing.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:25

Ted Stevens: Jun 2, 2007; by T. Finn

drat you, Mclaren F1 '94! You're the only thing stopping me from winning the Supercar Festival match!

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:25

DaitoX: Feb 29, 2008

Ak Gara posted:

Welcome to one of the most important lessons in ALL racing.

Nah, if you told a real person to increase the pace he would try to go faster (take more risks) but not suddenly start breaking out every corner. A real person would drive on his limit and sure something might go wrong, but not to the extend that happens in GT5.

If you told a real person to decrease his pace, he would always slow down and clock a slower lap (assuming he listens). Not clock a faster lap.

DaitoX fucked around with this message at Nov 27, 2010 around 19:32

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:30

dennyk: Jan 2, 2005; Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

Ted Stevens posted:

Depends on what the problem is. I always start out with a ECM upgrade. It's c1,000 and gives you around 10hp. Then I go for various Engine/Performance upgrades, then clutch. If the car is starting to get uncontrollable, some suspension parts are good. Problem is, it's hard for me to give a good series of upgrades, because I often end up throwing tens of thousands of dollars at the car at a time.

Tires should always be your first upgrade if you can afford it. Nothing else will make such a huge difference in handling. If I need a bit more speed out of a car, I'll usually start with the cheap stuff; ECM upgrade, sports cat, racing air filter, and usually a better clutch and flywheel to go with 'em. If I still find myself lagging behind due to a lack of power (loving Vitz race

), it's time to slap in a turbo. I haven't done the NA engine tuning on any of my cars yet because I haven't needed that much extra power and I like being able to return the car to stock trim if I want (you can't remove the engine upgrades). A sport suspension is also a good quick handling upgrade for those old clunkers that aren't worth using a full suspension kit on. Also, don't forget to change your oil at GT Auto for a little more horsepower.

Just buying the best of everything and throwing it all on your car isn't a good idea unless you know what you're doing and you're trying to fit your car for a race well above its weight class just for the hell of it (and you've got gobs of cash to spare). With a lot of the stuff, like the fully customizable suspension and transmission, you need to know how to tune them properly to get any benefits. It's also honestly more fun to try to tweak your car to match your competition for a race rather than to blow them all away by several seconds a lap. This can be hard because I've found the "typical opponent" list is often not a great indication of how fast the AI cars will be; the best approach, especially if you're doing a championship series, is to over-upgrade your car a bit and then if you run away with the first race too easily you can just take some parts off before the next one.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:33

Asnorban: Jun 13, 2003; Professor Gavelsmoke

DaitoX posted:

I hate Jeff Gordon now. He annoys me every time I hit a cone.

Came in here for Jeff Gordon bitching, was glad to see it. I can not pass these drat outer ring challenges. Not only can you not touch the wall or a cone, but if you make it around without touching anything but not on the inside you miss bronze by a good .4 seconds. This would definitely be easier with a wheel, as I have a hard time maintaining a constant soft turn on the controller.

I get it Jeff..."nascar requires a soft touch.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:35

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# ? May 21, 2013 12:53

dunkman: Jun 27, 2003

Is there a way to get a Ferrari to win the Ferrari festival without spending half a million?

Right now it's the last thing I need before I have to go back to grinding to get to lvl 20.

# ? Nov 27, 2010 19:36

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