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Aero737
Apr 30, 2006


The VOR approach tutorial was what got me, he would always end it for no reason what so ever.

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Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

Tesselcats are WOAH!!

The main thing with VOR's, and any signal transmission device, that you need to get your head around (as most of these videos have pointed out) is that radio signals can be picked up from any location within the range of the VOR. VHF waves don't specifically emit in one direction. When you're trying to select a course to fly, you are simply telling the equipment onboard to track a specific bearing/radial while tracking the VOR's location relative to your aircraft. The VOR itself is passive and does not actively track your direction, but rather the navigational equipment in the aircraft "locks" to the frequency to maintain its own spatial awareness. Without setting a course, you will still track the VOR, but not be heading in the right direction. The headings on the rose are imaginary, there aren't single beams of 1* variance emitting from the VOR, which I think is what confuses most people.

As has been said, it really isn't that hard. Just ask someone and practice it a few times.

Megadyptes
Oct 7, 2009

Yeah... If you hit them hard their heads bleed all over the ice and their legs convulse.


Welp, doesn't seem all that complex I guess. Rod Machado is still a dick for failing me all the time.

Currently flying from Plymouth to Gatwick using only VOR to test myself out. I'm flying in the right direction, so far so good!

SwimNurd
Oct 28, 2007

mememememe


Megadyptes posted:

Welp, doesn't seem all that complex I guess. Rod Machado is still a dick for failing me all the time.

Currently flying from Plymouth to Gatwick using only VOR to test myself out. I'm flying in the right direction, so far so good!

Come to IRC.

Megadyptes
Oct 7, 2009

Yeah... If you hit them hard their heads bleed all over the ice and their legs convulse.



I got there and landed without GPS or loading up the map
Red dots are the VOR's I tuned into along he way. Not the straightest of flights but not bad for my first real VOR flight.

This flying in a straight line for an hour, mostly on auto-pilot game is kinda fun I guess, but it's not terribly exciting. I much prefer flying my flying around mountains, down valleys, under bridges and around monuments and buildings (and crashing a lot) game, but being able to navigate without GPS is kinda neat.

What do you guys get up to on IRC, anyway? Is it mostly that VATSIM stuff?

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


Vatsim, but also FSX multiplayer sessions (especially to teach newbs).

And making fun of Apollo.

SwimNurd
Oct 28, 2007

mememememe


Mostly making fun of Apollo.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

After that, it's all a bit...........fuzzy...


We also play minecraft when not flying.

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


We also make fun of Apollo in Minecraft.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005
Welcome to Canada. Yes it smells funny, you'll get used to it.

Megadyptes posted:


I got there and landed without GPS or loading up the map

I know the feeling. I've been flying combat sims for years but just started flying civ sims a few weeks ago. The first time I did a flight from London ON to Sudbury ON without using any GPS or map stuff was boring and also cool as hell.

I must admit, I did bring up the in game map once. In the middle of Georgian bay I decided to see if I could triangulate my position using the Midland and Wiarton VORs. After I did my thing I pulled up my map and figured I was within 500m of where I thought I was.

Then I went and made myself the most sandwich ever and landed.

This must be what it feels like to be a sperg.

SwimNurd
Oct 28, 2007

mememememe


EvilJoven posted:

I know the feeling. I've been flying combat sims for years but just started flying civ sims a few weeks ago. The first time I did a flight from London ON to Sudbury ON without using any GPS or map stuff was boring and also cool as hell.

I must admit, I did bring up the in game map once. In the middle of Georgian bay I decided to see if I could triangulate my position using the Midland and Wiarton VORs. After I did my thing I pulled up my map and figured I was within 500m of where I thought I was.

Then I went and made myself the most sandwich ever and landed.

This must be what it feels like to be a sperg.

Just wait till you start doing full published NDB/LOC approaches with a spergy controller.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Is Tom Clancy's HAWX 2 worth $5.98? Can get it at D2D with a code for that much right now.... supposedly the PC version has some issues?

MagnumHB
Jan 19, 2003


Kashwashwa posted:

Is Tom Clancy's HAWX 2 worth $5.98? Can get it at D2D with a code for that much right now.... supposedly the PC version has some issues?
Based on watching the LP here, I would say probably not, unless you are desperate for a sim-lite action flying game.

Fatrick
Jul 19, 2003

*Jumping Peppers!* *Enjoy the Sauce!*

Kashwashwa posted:

Is Tom Clancy's HAWX 2 worth $5.98? Can get it at D2D with a code for that much right now.... supposedly the PC version has some issues?

Not really, no.

The first HAWX wasn't that good, and apparently 2 is a step backward in every way.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



I liked #2 more than 1, but I'm wierd so. vv

But the correct answer is to buy Ace Combat instead (unless you only have a PC to game on which then you're SOL).

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Alright, that's a pass then.

I played through the last Ace Combat on the xbox 360 already - maybe I'll just do that again when I don't want to get off the couch.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005
Welcome to Canada. Yes it smells funny, you'll get used to it.

If an Ace Combat clone came out for PC that had TrackIR support and LOS limitation on its fantasy radar it would be the best MP game ever.

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at Apr 8, 2011 around 22:52

Fatrick
Jul 19, 2003

*Jumping Peppers!* *Enjoy the Sauce!*

Speaking of Ace Combat, one of ours won the Skin Design competition for the new Assault Horizon game with this design

Skwerl posted:


my second submission, I think I've went overboard



This was his first design, which won second place:

Skwerl posted:

Got my entry done!




You should all see the other fan art he's created, the man is a genius:


Skwerl posted:

Just have to draw an early fan art *sperge sperge sperge*


Click here for the full 1830x1122 image.



Skwerl posted:

I spent almost a year of my life on this project
(mainly due to the reattempts... took me four loving tries and a ton of art practices in between)




Skwerl posted:

steel carnage *sperge sperge sperge*





Skwerl posted:

for those goons who voted for my work during the paintscheme competition, this is for you guys:

Fortuitous Bumble
Jan 5, 2007



Can someone explain Lock On to me? If I wanted to play it, is this the one with the latest expansion and everything or do I need to buy them separately?

I can't find much any good information online on how the hell all the different games and expansions go together. Does it still feel pretty modern? I was trying to find some sort of jet simulator and I never got to play the first Lock On back when it came out.

Gadaffi Duck
Jan 1, 2011

by Ozmaugh


Lock On's the most modern I know of, but you want to get Flaming Cliffs 2.0, and then patch it for compatibility with DCS: Black Shark. FC 2.0's technically an expansion though, so you need a copy of LOMAC to install it.

Snapshot
Oct 21, 2004

damnit Matt get in the boat

Fortuitous Bumble posted:

Can someone explain Lock On to me? If I wanted to play it, is this the one with the latest expansion and everything or do I need to buy them separately?

Yes that is the latest version. It contains LOMAC and FC2. Once patched it will be compatible with DCS: Black Shark, but not DCS:A10-C

MagnumHB
Jan 19, 2003


FC2 is probably the best overall product for modern combat jet aircraft. There's also Strike Fighters 2, which has lower production values and realism, but a wider variety of flyable aircraft. Of course, DCS A-10C is quite good (particularly after the most recent patch), but FC2 will be more up your alley if you want to fly true fighters or the extreme detail of DCS isn't your thing. The FC2 FAQ says this about installation:

quote:

Q: What would be the Flaming Cliffs 2 upgrade paths?
A: FC2 can be installed over any installation of Lock On, with or without Flaming Cliffs. FC2 is a separate install and does not overwrite your previous game(s). So, your options are either Lock On + Flaming Cliffs unofficial add-on (you would not have to activate) + Flaming Cliffs 2.0 upgrade or simply Lock On + Flaming Cliffs 2.0.

Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

Any FreeFalconeers about?

I don't remember a *thing* from my falcon 4 days... but I have pulled out hte original manual (hard copy at that!) and I'm wondering if most of the info is still good for FF5.5? Stuff on avionics and weapon delivery in particular.

If not, wheres the best place to get some decent instructions?

MagnumHB
Jan 19, 2003


I would guess that the FreeFalcon Forum would be a good place to start.

Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

MagnumHB posted:

I would guess that the FreeFalcon Forum would be a good place to start.

You see, you'd think that but I respectfully disagree.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Jiblet posted:

Any FreeFalconeers about?

I don't remember a *thing* from my falcon 4 days... but I have pulled out hte original manual (hard copy at that!) and I'm wondering if most of the info is still good for FF5.5? Stuff on avionics and weapon delivery in particular.

If not, wheres the best place to get some decent instructions?

Jiblet posted:

You see, you'd think that but I respectfully disagree.


I understand, I've been trying to mess with FF 5.5 and the forums, along with their insane manuals (there's a 2 page mock interview with Osama bin Laden and the pic of his is the old Dick Head photoshop), is next to useless. I'm having problems just trying to land because the original Falcon 4 tutorials aren't too good either. I wish someone would make a real training campaign for FreeFalcon.

Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

I respect the amount of time, effort and love that's obviously gone into FreeFalcon, but the manuals look like they were designed by a hyperactive ten year old on a caffeine drip.

Kolodny
Jul 10, 2010


I though the tutorials in the AF manual were pretty informative

no idea how well they apply to FreeFalcon, though from what I've heard about the interface it's a lot more overwhelming.

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots


SwimNurd posted:

Mostly making fun of Apollo.

I did not notice this until today.

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


Captain Apollo posted:

I did not notice this until today.

Probably because you ignore the thread like you ignore IRC.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Kolodny posted:

I though the tutorials in the AF manual were pretty informative

no idea how well they apply to FreeFalcon, though from what I've heard about the interface it's a lot more overwhelming.

I was referring to Falcon 4.0, not Allied Force, about the tutorials. It's kind of annoying having to play about 10 separate tutorial missions that should just be one long one.

Freefalcon changes quite a bit when it comes to weapons and start up procedures. I posted it earlier, but I had to go to page 669 to get the new start up procedure. I haven't even really messed with weapons yet, I'm still trying to land tricycle gear planes in general.

On the plus side, it's free and comes with many, many new planes to fly and soon a whole new theater and campaign.

Micr0chiP
Mar 17, 2007


I just made a new rig and im playing FSX with my sidewinder 2 joystick, but the return to center doesn't work.
Anyone uses this joystick and knows a way of solving this problem or knows any program that would force the return to center to be always on ?

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002

RAVAGE ME SAGAN


Micr0chiP posted:

I just made a new rig and im playing FSX with my sidewinder 2 joystick, but the return to center doesn't work.
Anyone uses this joystick and knows a way of solving this problem or knows any program that would force the return to center to be always on ?

They don't make the drivers anymore and return to center was flaky at best. I fixed it by buying a new joystick.

Micr0chiP
Mar 17, 2007


Minto Took posted:

They don't make the drivers anymore and return to center was flaky at best. I fixed it by buying a new joystick.

Yeah i know, they stoped making the drivers on XP, i was trying to avoid spending any more money, the new rig was expensive enough.

What bothers me is that Win7 detects the joystick and it works, its just the return to center (that works in other sims) that doesn't work on FSX.

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003



Micr0chiP posted:

I just made a new rig and im playing FSX with my sidewinder 2 joystick, but the return to center doesn't work.
Anyone uses this joystick and knows a way of solving this problem or knows any program that would force the return to center to be always on ?

Unfortunately FSX didn't include return to center functions for forcefeedback. It was supposed to make it more realistic or something.

I stopped using that controller shortly after FSX came out so I don't know if there was ever a 3rd party fix for it. It was a huge complaint when it came out.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

I use the FSForce2 add on with a Sidewinder FFB2 and FSX, on Vista. It works very well.

Megadyptes
Oct 7, 2009

Yeah... If you hit them hard their heads bleed all over the ice and their legs convulse.


There's a sale on for Rise of Flight and its bullshit DLC model.
http://riseofflight.com/en/store
I can't say I'm fond of their DLC model but 30 bux for the game and 9 planes seems ok-ish (Demo ICE Upgrade) but then I was looking around their site and read their blog. They are adding in DLC field modifications.
http://riseofflight.com/Blogs/post/...ifications.aspx
$1-5 for a gun sight, compass or an altimeter for planes that don't have them as standard?

DancingMachine
Aug 12, 2004

He's a dancing machine!

MSFS addon makers charge $20-$60 for a single aircraft or small scenery area...

Megadyptes
Oct 7, 2009

Yeah... If you hit them hard their heads bleed all over the ice and their legs convulse.


DancingMachine posted:

MSFS addon makers charge $20-$60 for a single aircraft or small scenery area...
But at least FSX comes with more than four planes out of the box.

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Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Megadyptes posted:

There's a sale on for Rise of Flight and its bullshit DLC model.
http://riseofflight.com/en/store
I can't say I'm fond of their DLC model but 30 bux for the game and 9 planes seems ok-ish (Demo ICE Upgrade) but then I was looking around their site and read their blog. They are adding in DLC field modifications.
http://riseofflight.com/Blogs/post/...ifications.aspx
$1-5 for a gun sight, compass or an altimeter for planes that don't have them as standard?

The fact that their ultimate upgrade doesn't have the largest sale price makes no sense...

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