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MagnumHB: Jan 19, 2003

Diet Crack posted:

That DCS patch better fix all the bloody crashes I've been getting since the last patch. I could play fine before, now whenever a SAM is launched or I launch flares/chaff the game locks up and CTD's. That or I try and load any mission and it crashes on the loading screen, with no way of tabbing back to windows, so you're forced to restart. >_<

How much RAM do you have and do you have a 32 or 64 bit OS?

SwimNurd posted:

VATSIM

Speaking of VATSIM, I was amused to read the other day about how some VATSIM staff members apparently walked out of a flight sim convention in the UK last weekend when the Virtual Red Arrows sucked up bandwidth during their demo and didn't use VATSIM comms. I don't know what they would even do with a team running LO/FC2 though.

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# ? May 19, 2013 10:33

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001; Tesselcats are WOAH!!

I've already done the 3GB windows XP trick. Does nothing.

Irregardless, it was working fine before the patch, so it's not my system per se.

Diet Crack fucked around with this message at May 19, 2011 around 14:42

# ? May 19, 2011 14:37

MagnumHB: Jan 19, 2003

Diet Crack posted:

I've already done the 3GB windows XP trick. Does nothing.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at. The "does nothing" part in particular. The last patch absolutely killed stability for me as well on my old XP/2GB system, most likely due to the increased memory requirements from the texture pre-loading that was introduced with it. It's my belief that a 64-bit OS is an absolute must for A-10C, which makes sense considering that the system requirements specifically mention it.

Also, I just saw this pretty neat VATSIM video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAUS0S_xoFM

MagnumHB fucked around with this message at May 19, 2011 around 14:51

# ? May 19, 2011 14:48

BookaT: May 29, 2003

SwimNurd posted:

VATSIM

I know, I just finished installing FSX last night on the repaired machine. Just have to install all the add-ons and I'll get with it.

# ? May 19, 2011 15:15

Snapshot: Oct 21, 2004; damnit Matt get in the boat

Fredrik1 posted:

I'll join you guys if I ever catch you in chat, I can loop, roll, and land with only minor damage to the helicopter itself.

Still prefer blackshark over dcs-A10, dunno if you fly in a late US timezone though.

Also, get DCS-A10 it rocks.

Yeah, CloD is playing silly buggers with the release date, so I may just get A-10C. As for Shark pilots, we have one in GMT+1, three in EDT, two in PDT. We're on from about 6 pm EDT to Midnight PST. Just ask in il2gs, even if we're in a game, we usually monitor the IRC. Also, we'll be somewhere in the military section of the flightsim mumble if we're online. Or look for a game online with goons in the name, or dorks. Pass will probably be lljk.

# ? May 19, 2011 16:35

Kilonum: Sep 30, 2002; After that, it's all a bit...........fuzzy...

MS should work with VATSIM to add that capability into Flight out of the box

# ? May 19, 2011 20:29

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

Except wanting to improve the system is like pulling teeth to the VATSIM founders. They've got to be some of the most resistant-to-change people I've ever encountered.

# ? May 19, 2011 20:35

Colonial Air Force: May 22, 2002; Bombing Redcoats since 1775.

We'll be lucky to get a VATSIM client for Flight or XP10 within 3 years of their respective releases.

# ? May 19, 2011 20:47

holocaust bloopers: Dec 30, 2010; How yah like me now?!!?

CS 767 is seriously kicking my rear end. The FSX crashes were due to a .dll file not playing nice. FSX doesn't crash any more. New problem is I keep crashing the 767. Landing that thing is a loving chore.

# ? May 19, 2011 21:40

SwimNurd: Oct 28, 2007; mememememe

HeyEng posted:

CS 767 is seriously kicking my rear end. The FSX crashes were due to a .dll file not playing nice. FSX doesn't crash any more. New problem is I keep crashing the 767. Landing that thing is a loving chore.

145ish over the fence. Keep the nose up.

# ? May 19, 2011 23:22

Wolfy: Jul 13, 2009

Does anyone have experience combining pedals of a steering wheel and then a joystick as a sim setup? Is that even worth my time? I know it's not ideal but I'm broke and I love FS but the twist handle for rudder is just a real let down.

# ? May 20, 2011 05:36

Kolodny: Jul 10, 2010

Wolfy posted:

Does anyone have experience combining pedals of a steering wheel and then a joystick as a sim setup? Is that even worth my time? I know it's not ideal but I'm broke and I love FS but the twist handle for rudder is just a real let down.

I would think it'd get annoying after a bit, since the pedals have different tensions or distances.

# ? May 20, 2011 06:20

holocaust bloopers: Dec 30, 2010; How yah like me now?!!?

SwimNurd posted:

145ish over the fence. Keep the nose up.

Copy. A lot of the problem is I'm over correcting. I would hate to see my patch on the localizer. Would probably look like a scribbly line. Otherwise totally great jet now that the I have a decent handle in getting the FMC to operate.

Have you tried holding patterns yet? Any tips about those?

She's a beauty.

holocaust bloopers fucked around with this message at May 20, 2011 around 06:57

# ? May 20, 2011 06:52

Wolfy: Jul 13, 2009

Kolodny posted:

I would think it'd get annoying after a bit, since the pedals have different tensions or distances.

Yeah I would imagine so so but I think it may be better than the twist on the joystick, I'll have to find the wheel and see what happens. I guess the second part of this question is: What's the cheapest pair of flight pedals that aren't total pieces of poo poo?

I browsed the links in OP and my first reaction is jesus these companies have some terrible websites. Looks like Saitek and CH are the only companies that actually make pedals?

# ? May 20, 2011 09:35

Snapshot: Oct 21, 2004; damnit Matt get in the boat

Wolfy posted:

Does anyone have experience combining pedals of a steering wheel and then a joystick as a sim setup? Is that even worth my time? I know it's not ideal but I'm broke and I love FS but the twist handle for rudder is just a real let down.

It isn't bad. I used a logitech driving force something or other from the early 00's for my rudder pedals. Tension and throw were suitable, just make sure you're flying something with rudder trim so you can zero out the forces or you'll have a cramped foot.

# ? May 20, 2011 12:39

SwimNurd: Oct 28, 2007; mememememe

HeyEng posted:

Have you tried holding patterns yet? Any tips about those?

Ether fly it manually or hit the hold button

and select the fix.

# ? May 20, 2011 13:12

Colonial Air Force: May 22, 2002; Bombing Redcoats since 1775.

HeyEng posted:

Copy. A lot of the problem is I'm over correcting. I would hate to see my patch on the localizer. Would probably look like a scribbly line. Otherwise totally great jet now that the I have a decent handle in getting the FMC to operate.

Have you tried holding patterns yet? Any tips about those?

She's a beauty.

Oh my god i want it.

# ? May 20, 2011 13:41

SwimNurd: Oct 28, 2007; mememememe

Colonial Air Force posted:

Oh my god i want it.

You have it.

# ? May 20, 2011 13:43

Purefish: Jun 12, 2008

Why does the control calibration in Flight Simulator X have to suck so much? It is impossible to control the planes with completely linear joystick feedback.

# ? May 20, 2011 13:49

Colonial Air Force: May 22, 2002; Bombing Redcoats since 1775.

SwimNurd posted:

You have it.

That skin's in there? How did I not know that?

EDIT FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE:

10:29:53 | <Swimnurd> ColonialAF: I was wrong in the thread
10:29:57 | <Swimnurd> it is an xpac for the 767

Purefish posted:

Why does the control calibration in Flight Simulator X have to suck so much? It is impossible to control the planes with completely linear joystick feedback.

Get FSUIPC. It's worth it.

Colonial Air Force fucked around with this message at May 20, 2011 around 14:33

# ? May 20, 2011 13:50

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

HeyEng posted:

Have you tried holding patterns yet? Any tips about those?

I only have very basic practice holding in smaller prop planes, but one thing you can do is make sure you're slow. I think max holding speed in the U.S. is 210kts unless otherwise specified.

Just time your outbound leg for 1 minute then turn back inbound to the fix. Try to remember how close you come each time to turning inbound exactly on course. If you have to hold an intercept angle for a while to get back on course, you need less wind correction when going back outbound next time. If you almost blow through the holding course, you need more wind correction when outbound. It usually takes me 2-5 trips around the holding pattern before I get some really good headings hammered out for staying on course.

# ? May 20, 2011 14:19

SwimNurd: Oct 28, 2007; mememememe

Purefish posted:

Why does the control calibration in Flight Simulator X have to suck so much? It is impossible to control the planes with completely linear joystick feedback.

There are a lot of add on planes that don't suck.

# ? May 20, 2011 14:41

Kilonum: Sep 30, 2002; After that, it's all a bit...........fuzzy...

Colonial Air Force posted:

We'll be lucky to get a VATSIM client for Flight or XP10 within 3 years of their respective releases.

XP9 plugins will work with XP10

# ? May 20, 2011 16:12

Aero737: Apr 30, 2006

The Ferret King posted:

I only have very basic practice holding in smaller prop planes, but one thing you can do is make sure you're slow. I think max holding speed in the U.S. is 210kts unless otherwise specified.

I think it is 265 knots above fl180.

Of course on VATSIM it is almost always giant S turns or vectors to china and back.

# ? May 20, 2011 17:20

holocaust bloopers: Dec 30, 2010; How yah like me now?!!?

Ha! Yea, I should've elaborated. I blow through the initial turn into the holding pattern and the jet stays wide of the course. Don't know if it was a speed thing or I did something wrong. I'll give it a go today.

Oh, and that skin is on avsim.com. It's one done by McPhat Studios.

holocaust bloopers fucked around with this message at May 20, 2011 around 18:01

# ? May 20, 2011 17:32

SwimNurd: Oct 28, 2007; mememememe

Slow down and check your bank limiter.

# ? May 20, 2011 18:04

BookaT: May 29, 2003

So prepping for my eventual vatsim failure of "speaking" to atc, I've discovered http://www.liveatc.net

# ? May 20, 2011 18:27

Wikipedia Brown: Aug 4, 2004; Star Trek:
The Motion Picture

BookaT posted:

So prepping for my eventual vatsim failure of "speaking" to atc, I've discovered http://www.liveatc.net

This owns, listening to the tower in White Plains (HPN) now. Thanks.

I have no idea what any of this means but I feel fancy.

# ? May 20, 2011 18:35

Colonial Air Force: May 22, 2002; Bombing Redcoats since 1775.

Yeah, liveatc.net is fun. I wish they'd come out with an Android app.

# ? May 20, 2011 18:44

holocaust bloopers: Dec 30, 2010; How yah like me now?!!?

SwimNurd posted:

Slow down and check your bank limiter.

Yep. That did the trick. Thanks. One other one, do you have a problem with not being able to set the ILS freq manually? If it's 109.90 I can't ever set it exactly that.

Basically, I'd like to shoot an ILS without having to dick around with the FMC.

# ? May 20, 2011 18:55

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

What can you set it to?

# ? May 20, 2011 18:57

SwimNurd: Oct 28, 2007; mememememe

Open the radio stack set the nav1 radio to the localizer, click the loc button on your AP till you intercept the glide slope then hit the appr button till you hit the ground. (that is if you followed the autoland check list). This is all in the manual :-P

EDIT: The FMS on the 767 just tunes your nav1 radio for you when you hit the initial approach fix nothing fancy is happening. You can always tune things by hand.

SwimNurd fucked around with this message at May 20, 2011 around 19:43

# ? May 20, 2011 19:41

holocaust bloopers: Dec 30, 2010; How yah like me now?!!?

The Ferret King posted:

What can you set it to?

109.96. It goes in odd intervals of 3-4 digits at a time.

I get the same behavior from the speed portion. Setting 211 as opposed to 210 and odd numbers like that. That's with using the left mouse button. The speed knobs spins like crazy if the mouse wheel is being used.

The help is much appreciated, guys.

# ? May 20, 2011 19:42

SwimNurd: Oct 28, 2007; mememememe

Hop on irc we can give you real time help instead of making GBS threads up the thread.

# ? May 20, 2011 19:44

holocaust bloopers: Dec 30, 2010; How yah like me now?!!?

A totally clean install took care of the localizer problem. FSX and the add ons are so finicky. I've never experienced anything like that ever in terms of software.

Getting better at putting the 767 down. Took your advice and it worked. Simple stuff--aimpoint, airspeed.

# ? May 21, 2011 06:41

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001; Tesselcats are WOAH!!

Re: 767 ILS problem:

FMS -> NAV RAD -> ILS (It's button 4 I think)

Put in the following: 109.9/(Rwy hdg here)
This way you can keep your NAV radios free. Don't use the manual/auto tuner next to the autopilot, that usually only works for VOR's. You will also run into a multitude of problems if the aircraft isn't configured properly. (ie. Flight director and the IRS system.)

Also I get the random numbers thing every now and then, I think its some sort of keyboard command that causes mouse increments to change from 10's to 1's and such.

If you have FMS related questions on the Csim 757/767, or PMDG 747.. or basically any boeing aircraft, I know how to program the lot.

Unrelated: Can someone recommend me a 180kt, small GA aircraft payware that isn't the Carenado or Beechcraft? Preferably something uncommon that isn't chock full of 7 GPS's and horrible frame rates.

Diet Crack fucked around with this message at May 21, 2011 around 07:20

# ? May 21, 2011 07:11

holocaust bloopers: Dec 30, 2010; How yah like me now?!!?

Diet Crack posted:

Re: 767 ILS problem:

FMS -> NAV RAD -> ILS (It's button 4 I think)

Put in the following: 109.9/(Rwy hdg here)
This way you can keep your NAV radios free. Don't use the manual/auto tuner next to the autopilot, that usually only works for VOR's. You will also run into a multitude of problems if the aircraft isn't configured properly. (ie. Flight director and the IRS system.)

Also I get the random numbers thing every now and then, I think its some sort of keyboard command that causes mouse increments to change from 10's to 1's and such.

If you have FMS related questions on the Csim 757/767, or PMDG 747.. or basically any boeing aircraft, I know how to program the lot.

Unrelated: Can someone recommend me a 180kt, small GA aircraft payware that isn't the Carenado or Beechcraft? Preferably something uncommon that isn't chock full of 7 GPS's and horrible frame rates.

That makes sense. Do you have a fix for the random airspeed/freq numbers thing?

EDIT: Screwed around with it this morning. The mousewheel functions great just as long as the mouse cursor is over the digits. The IAS/Mach selector knob is apparently thought of as a 'feature'.

Did what you suggested and it worked out great. Problem is I can't get the ILS hashed line to display. That's no big deal at all at a familiar airfield though.

holocaust bloopers fucked around with this message at May 21, 2011 around 18:05

# ? May 21, 2011 16:40