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Snapshot
Oct 21, 2004

damnit Matt get in the boat

Lord Commissar posted:

I wonder if they have anything similar for Android.

EDIT: For that matter, I wonder if this could be useful for things like light switches and radio controls.

It is. I have the n52te which I use that as a keypad for flight sims; I don't have my normal keyboard taking up space and spreading out my HOTAS setup beyond a comfortable width. Also, macro functions are handy for getting into a certain configuration. I usually have it beside my throttle, and I use each of the different configs on it for a different flight mode.

Snapshot fucked around with this message at Dec 10, 2010 around 19:24

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Mr Darcy
Feb 8, 2006


Does anyone have the link to that site that tells you how to optimise Flight Sim X? I think it cropped up somehwere in the last thread?

FLX
Sep 18, 2005

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Mr Darcy posted:

Does anyone have the link to that site that tells you how to optimise Flight Sim X? I think it cropped up somehwere in the last thread?

Here's the tweaking guide and here is another website where you can upload your fsx.cfg file and have it tweaked automatically to your hardware settings. Not sure how good the latter works though, since I haven't compared its results yet to manual tweaking.

Kolodny
Jul 10, 2010


Another FSX guide that isn't nearly as long winded, with multiple config examples.

FLX
Sep 18, 2005

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Kolodny posted:

Another FSX guide that isn't nearly as long winded, with multiple config examples.

Thanks for posting this! I tried it out and went from 15-20 fps to a pretty constant, limited 33 fps (when set to unlimited, it was spiking like mad between 60 and 30 fps) ... and FSX looks better now than before I had to sacrifice detailed clouds, lens flares and light bloom though, which is fine for me, but maxed texture and mesh detail and complexity.


EDIT: Could someone give me a quick run-down on fuel mixture settings? I read that above 3000ft one should lower the richness of the mix to increase engine RPM, but I don't know how much and generally what the signs of a bad mixture are.

FLX fucked around with this message at Dec 11, 2010 around 19:04

xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!

FLX posted:

Could someone give me a quick run-down on fuel mixture settings? I read that above 3000ft one should lower the richness of the mix to increase engine RPM, but I don't know how much and generally what the signs of a bad mixture are.

You pretty much want to thin the mixture until your Engine Exhaust Temperature peaks.
That is if I'm doing it right.

Gewehr 43
Aug 25, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Lean mixture to peak exhaust gas temp then enrichen it by a tiny bit. Keep an eye on it as you climb; as the air thins at altitude, you'll need to lean the mix further to compensate.

Gewehr 43
Aug 25, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Double post.

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


G43, how come you're not on IRC flying with us?

Gewehr 43
Aug 25, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Because I'm just too busy to do much gaming these days. Especially ones that require a significant time dedication like flight sims. I bought A10C a few weeks ago and have played it maybe 5 hours total so far.

Plus my soundcard's input doesn't play nicely with Win7 64, so I have no way to talk when I'm vent/TS and it gets really annoying.

amirite
Oct 26, 2005
I am a chair. John Wayne.

Lord Commissar posted:

EDIT: For that matter, I wonder if this could be useful for things like light switches and radio controls.

I have this for Radio Controls and it's great. The best part is having the X-Plane LCD swcreen plugin running at the same time - then all your radio frequencies show right there on the LCD so you can set radios real quickly.

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


amirite posted:

I have this for Radio Controls and it's great. The best part is having the X-Plane LCD swcreen plugin running at the same time - then all your radio frequencies show right there on the LCD so you can set radios real quickly.

Do they make something similar for FSX?

EDIT: Well not quite the same, but this might be useful. Or this.

Also, I'm sure it's possible to make one for FSX, since FSInn can control your radio frequencies from outside, and even SquawkBox recognizes what frequency you're on.

Colonial Air Force fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2010 around 19:36

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Well, I don't know that I ever mentioned my issues with the G940 in this thread (both my prior systems were replaced by logitech while I was still mostly playing IL2), but I had my final annoyance and will be doing everything I can to get rid of this thing.

The stick has a problem where the force feedback shuts off after about an hour of vigorous use. Com, Kilo, Swim, and I went on a low altitude run through the Grand Canyon this afternoon, and the stick poo poo out on me halfway through. The base gets so goddamn hot, even though it's 65deg in my house and there are no obstructions to the stick's ventilation.

This is my third G940 system, having been replaced twice by Logitech. I'm done with it. It's a really cool gadget, but doesn't work well enough, or consistently enough to justify the high price and frustration. I've been flying a lot lately, and I need something that's going to work a LOT better for me. It's a shame, I've liked Logitechs other peripherals (mice, keyboard, speakers etc), but they just missed the target on this thing.

The search begins for a new stick/yoke/rudder system. I'm writing off Saitek and Logitech.... So where will that take me?

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


Vataware didn't record my flight because MSFS has old airport data, but:

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

After that, it's all a bit...........fuzzy...


I ran it in a helo with FSPax running, and, well: http://www.pastie.org/private/4ohjylbcfusisyij7j3z0g

http://www.vataware.com/flight.cfm?id=6765561

Kilonum fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2010 around 23:09

Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

The Ferret King posted:

I'm writing off Saitek and Logitech.... So where will that take me?
CH or my perdonal choice, Thrustmaster. I love my warthog so far.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Jiblet posted:

CH or my perdonal choice, Thrustmaster. I love my warthog so far.

Well, Logitech committed to a full refund for my G940. I tell ya, I really do like Logitech the company. I wish this G940 had worked out better, because it's just so cool.

I have been eying the warthog for a long time. I wonder if it would work for me, being mostly into the civilian sim flying. The extra buttons and switches still come in handy for radio/nav stuff. Do you have any qualms with the Warthog system at all yet?

I've also considered downgrading and getting something like the Logitech Extreme 3d Pro. Seems like simpler might be better, since I haven't seen huge quality increases with more money spent in these systems.

A fellow controller and vatsimmer also recommended the old Sidewinder FFB2 stick, says he loves it. He doesn't actually use the FFB though, which is weird, but sometimes products end up working better when you don't use them as advertised.

Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

The Ferret King posted:

Do you have any qualms with the Warthog system at all yet?

Well, my first was a dud, the left throttle failed to respond at *all*, adn thrustmaster support were quite frankly loving useless. Telling me to calibrate it... then sending me a calibration tool. Brilliant. I'll calibrate a sensor that isn't sensing in anyway. That's bound to work!

The replacement (thanks to amazon rather than thrustmaster) is perfect though.

The only other concern I have is the "TARGET" software is a steaming pile at the moment, but it's promised to get better... But then I've not needed that yet.

Oh and it doesn't come with rudder pedals. I'm using old CH gameport ones that run through my Cougar - works fine in most games, but Strike Fighters doesn't like playing with all those devices (xplane, FSX and DCS-A10 are all fine).

What I *really* liked was that DCS-A10 didn't need any setting up. It just recognised the stick and bound all the controls correctly. Saved me 2 hours of loving about right there

Daimo
Sep 14, 2007



Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Pro was my favorite stick, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is the next best thing!

Essobie
Jan 31, 2003

WHAT? THIS IS MY REGULAR SPEAKING VOICE.
Is this better?


Get a Saitek x52 for the throttle (since you apparently don't like the stick) and then use the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro for your stick. I'm pretty sure someone else in this thread has that combo and loves it.

I personally think the x52 and x52 pro are great... if you can find one that works

I think the perfect stick would really be a G940 without the force feedback nonsense. The stick and the throttle felt fantastic and were really well made, but I just could not get around how blah the force feedback felt (and hearing about the overheating issues makes me happy I took it back when I did).

Limp Wristed Limey
Sep 7, 2010

Bitcoins are the path to freedom.


It makes me sad hearing about the g940 problems, it seemed like a reasonable deal and I was going to get it for Black Shark.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Yeah, I can't really recommend the G940. Really neat system, but overheating and shutting off in the middle of a flight is unacceptable. The stick basically goes dead and won't center itself, which makes control very very difficult. As much time as it takes in flight sims to get anything done, the last thing you want is inflight failure of flight controls.

FLX
Sep 18, 2005

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I've been out of the PC gaming hardware loop for a bit. What would be a good graphics card for FSX for less than 100$ ? I currently only have a crappy nVidia Geforce 8500.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

FLX posted:

I've been out of the PC gaming hardware loop for a bit. What would be a good graphics card for FSX for less than 100$ ? I currently only have a crappy nVidia Geforce 8500.
I skimmed pretty hard there...

For $100 an ATI 5750 most likely. Or for a little more a Geforce 450.

Kashwashwa fucked around with this message at Dec 13, 2010 around 21:55

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005


FLX posted:


EDIT: Could someone give me a quick run-down on fuel mixture settings? I read that above 3000ft one should lower the richness of the mix to increase engine RPM, but I don't know how much and generally what the signs of a bad mixture are.

In general, you lean to peak EGT (or RPM for a fixed pitch prop), and then adjust the power setting where you want it from there. When descending, enrich the mixture, since failing to do so can result in the engine quitting from the excessively lean mixture.

If the mixture is too lean, the engine will lose power and will tend to overheat (FSX doesn't model the overheating). If the mixture is too rich, the engine will also lose power but won't overheat since the fuel acts as a coolant. In the real world, an excessively rich mixture would cause spark plug fouling, but FSX doesn't model that either.

However, FSX has a fundamentally broken mixture system, and it dramatically exaggerates how often the mixture needs to be adjusted.

My day job is flight instructing in Cessna 172's, and leaving the mixture full rich from takeoff to around 6000ft (at which point it's leaned for cruise) doesn't produce a noticeable loss of power or performance, but trying that in FSX results in the engine losing a substantial amount of power as it climbs.

In FSX, I normally turn automixture on for takeoff and climb to avoid having to adjust the mixture every 20 seconds, and then disable it and lean the mixture properly once I'm leveled off for cruise.


On the subject of increasing FPS in FSX, there's a really handy program called alacrityPC ( http://alacritypc.kensalter.com/ ) that lets you set up a profile to disable background programs and processes (including the windows desktop) when you start FSX, and automatically enable them when FSX closes.

It takes about 20 minutes to set up the first time (you can use the same profile for pretty much any other .exe as well) and it can be a bit intimidating at first, but Alacrity PC is pretty much idiot proof, and if you accidentally tell it to kill something windows needs to function, restarting the PC undoes whatever you might have screwed up.

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007


Essobie posted:

I think the perfect stick would really be a G940 without the force feedback nonsense. The stick and the throttle felt fantastic and were really well made, but I just could not get around how blah the force feedback felt (and hearing about the overheating issues makes me happy I took it back when I did).
I think a perfect stick would be the Warthog with well-implemented FFB and rudder pedals. I love the idea of having a replica of a real stick. I have a G940 and like it. It's not perfect, but all the high end setups have compromises, so I don't think I regret it over buying another set up. The only thing I would have liked better would have been a Warthog, but it didn't come out until months after, doesn't have FFB, and doens't include rudder pedals. The G940 pedals are better than the standalone CH and Saitek pedals. My G940 doesn't overheat, but the movement is kinda odd at high resistances, and the throttle extra axes spike when moving the right throttle.

Dominoes fucked around with this message at Dec 13, 2010 around 22:06

Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave


Kashwashwa posted:

I skimmed pretty hard there...

For $100 an ATI 5750 most likely. Or for a little more a Geforce 450.

I have a 5750!

Running FSX just fine. Have not installed any hardcore addons except PMDG MD-11

SwimNurd
Oct 28, 2007

mememememe


Most modern video cards will not help FSX all that much, what really helps is per core clock speed. Almost nothing is offloaded to the GPU with FSX and by default FSX is a single core process. You can offload some threads to other cores with third party plug ins, most of us use the one that comes with FSInn/FSCopilot.

hannibal
Jul 27, 2001

[img-planes]

The Ferret King posted:

Well, Logitech committed to a full refund for my G940. I tell ya, I really do like Logitech the company. I wish this G940 had worked out better, because it's just so cool.

I have been eying the warthog for a long time. I wonder if it would work for me, being mostly into the civilian sim flying. The extra buttons and switches still come in handy for radio/nav stuff. Do you have any qualms with the Warthog system at all yet?

I've also considered downgrading and getting something like the Logitech Extreme 3d Pro. Seems like simpler might be better, since I haven't seen huge quality increases with more money spent in these systems.

A fellow controller and vatsimmer also recommended the old Sidewinder FFB2 stick, says he loves it. He doesn't actually use the FFB though, which is weird, but sometimes products end up working better when you don't use them as advertised.

You'd have to find a FFB2 on Ebay or something since they're not made anymore. I have one and love it (posted about it earlier). I use the FFB though, I've never had any problems with it at all.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


How is Strike Fighters 2? Does it hit that sweet spot of mostly-realistic damage/weapons/physics, but simple and forgiving avionics? Or is it more like Falcon?

Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

ToxicFrog posted:

How is Strike Fighters 2? Does it hit that sweet spot of mostly-realistic damage/weapons/physics, but simple and forgiving avionics? Or is it more like Falcon?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more arcadey than Falcon.
Way.
WAY more.

So yes, its much like all the old flight sims like EF2000 or F22 ADF. It's fun, but its not terribly engaging. Recommend it though.

Kolodny
Jul 10, 2010


You may want to wait to pick up Strike Fighters 2. The dev had a package deal last year and has hinted that he might do one this year, though probably not until after christmas.

Supposing he doesn't do one, which would be the best to first pick up? Just from the descriptions, Europe looks like it has the most shiny bits, as well as the most recent expansion pack.

TheNotsosuperHero
Oct 28, 2004

My powers include using shampoo and wearing pants

ToxicFrog posted:

How is Strike Fighters 2? Does it hit that sweet spot of mostly-realistic damage/weapons/physics, but simple and forgiving avionics? Or is it more like Falcon?

It's pretty interesting to mess around in, the flight models are surprisingly good for certain planes (vietnam era), but it's far from being like Falcon. The campaigns are dynamic and there are many addons that do the sim well. It's fairly arcadey in the sense that missile physics are meh and ground targets, like tanks, die to a first shot of 20mm. Strike Fighters, to me, is basically the best sim out there for vietnam era combat, otherwise you're poo poo out of luck.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

After that, it's all a bit...........fuzzy...


Kolodny posted:

Supposing he doesn't do one, which would be the best to first pick up?

Europe with expansion, covers 1956-1979 with a variety of flyable planes, many with several mid life upgrades designated by year:

English Electric Lightning F.1/2/3/6 (all added by expansion)
Hawker Hunter F.1/2/4/5/6 and FGA.9 (F.1 through F.5 added by expansion)
North American F-100A/C/D Super Sabre (A&C added by expansion)
Vought A-7D Corsair II
Fairchild Republic A-10A Thunderbolt II
Republic F-105D Thunderchief
McDonnell-Douglas F-4C/D/E/F/M Phantom II
McDonnell-Douglas F-15A Eagle
Hawker Harrier GR.1/3

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002

RAVAGE ME SAGAN


The A-7D is fun, but drat it turns like a pig.

FLX
Sep 18, 2005

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I got IL-2 from GOG.com today, which is on sale for $6.99 there. Are there any graphic enhancement mods and other things I should install?

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

"When I see someone tilting my tables, I shoot the Bastard. That's my policy!"


The Ferret King posted:

Yeah, I can't really recommend the G940. Really neat system, but overheating and shutting off in the middle of a flight is unacceptable. The stick basically goes dead and won't center itself, which makes control very very difficult. As much time as it takes in flight sims to get anything done, the last thing you want is inflight failure of flight controls.

Arrrrrgh! I hate to hear that. I hope that they have enough invested in the product that they actually really fix it (as in hardware changes) to prevent overheating instead of trying to do everything with firmware upgrades.

I think they really missed out on this one. They have a great throttle and from what I have heard, the best rudder on the market, but they only work with the stick. They should have made them able to work independently so people who don't want to spring for the whole package can get just the throttle or just the rudder if they so choose. I'm positive the reversal bug is just a firmware patch away, but the overheating is going to take more than just software to address.

Sucks that the only other options for people who want a full setup is to either play russian roulette with Saitek or spring 1/2 a grand on the Warthog plus another $150 on a rudder.

Or you could go all out with this bad boy! ($3,161.01 for a chair and a mangled Saitek stick and rudder)

http://www.mydreamflyer.com/

Too bad they didn't do proper market research into their preferred demographic. . .

DreamFlyer Site posted:

The gyroscopic movement of the frame allows a prospective pilot (of up to 250 pounds) to roll or pitch with the motion of the simulated plane.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

After that, it's all a bit...........fuzzy...


TheNotsosuperHero posted:

It's fairly arcadey in the sense that missile physics are meh and ground targets, like tanks, die to a first shot of 20mm.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



All this talk about Strike Fighters Vietnam makes me wish for a helicopter sim set in Vietnam about flying Hueys. It would be all about flying troops and supplies to LZs while dodging AA fire, occasionally providing air support with these babies. Imagine flying into a hot LZ and getting into position to drop off troops, all the while your door gunners are blazing and AK fire is pinging off your chopper. It'll never happen, but a girl can dream right?

(I may have been watching We Were Soldiers before I typed this)

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Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

Insert name here posted:

All this talk about Strike Fighters Vietnam makes me wish for a helicopter sim set in Vietnam about flying Hueys. It would be all about flying troops and supplies to LZs while dodging AA fire, occasionally providing air support with these babies. Imagine flying into a hot LZ and getting into position to drop off troops, all the while your door gunners are blazing and AK fire is pinging off your chopper. It'll never happen, but a girl can dream right?

(I may have been watching We Were Soldiers before I typed this)

Battlefield Vietnam (yeah yeah I know, I know) felt like that sometimes - when you had a decent group of people.

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