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Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


What the gently caress is going on in this thread?

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

"When I see someone tilting my tables, I shoot the Bastard. That's my policy!"


Colonial Air Force posted:

What the gently caress is going on in this thread?

I made a joke, and it's taking a bad turn.

Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

Colonial Air Force posted:

What the gently caress is going on in this thread?

Nothing good.


So AeroFlyFS... Worth the slightly expensive in my opinion) price?

Appears to be very pretty but lacking any depth or substance, would that be a fair summary?

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007


Blistex posted:

It works amazingly well. The PS3 Eye can do 60fps (although 30fps is as smooth as the mouse) and you don't even need to take out the IR filter. All you need is to put a piece of exposed film over the lens and you're good to go as long as there isn't too much direct sunlight or bright things in the room.

I'd be using mine right now, but freetrack is giving me issues with Windows 7, as it's looking for DirectX 9 components that don't seem to be there. It might work for you, but who knows. I think they stopped supporting it and doing work on it back in 2010. You could alway try facetrack Noir.

Good luck.

Mike-o posted:

Welp, I have a ps3 eye just laying around, I had no clue it could be used with freetrack. Let me know how it works out because I'd love to try it.

Got it all setup, works fantastic. I have to play around with the curves, but the PS3 Eye + One piece of exposed film works perfectly. There are a few hoops you need to jump through to get the Eye to work for freetrack.

http://forum.free-track.net/index.p...pic=2416&page=1

Read that, but do not install the CLEye driver that it links to, the links to the two working ones are on the last page of that thread, the later one did not work for me, but this earlier driver did:
http://www.codelaboratories.com/fil...-5.0.1.0520.exe

SwimNurd
Oct 28, 2007

mememememe


I am working on a little side project with to use with vatsim. Here is a render of tonight's traffic at the CRW event. More on how I did this later...
http://goo.gl/maps/JBWWF

Dalrain
Nov 13, 2008

Experience joy,
Experience waffle,
Today.


Hi, I have a pretty quick screen question here for simming: do you all prefer a single large screen setup, or would a multiple smaller screen setup (eyefinity) be better/more awesome? I'm trying to make x-plane 10 useful as an immersive as possible so I can pretend I have a redbird, but I have kind of a low budget.

Over in the Monitor Megathread they talk about Korean IPS monitors (27") as the bees knees, but at 300 bucks, I could get two or three TN monitors and probably be relatively ok. The "catch" would be the need for display port.

What do you all run with?

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007


Dalrain posted:

Hi, I have a pretty quick screen question here for simming: do you all prefer a single large screen setup, or would a multiple smaller screen setup (eyefinity) be better/more awesome? I'm trying to make x-plane 10 useful as an immersive as possible so I can pretend I have a redbird, but I have kind of a low budget.

Over in the Monitor Megathread they talk about Korean IPS monitors (27") as the bees knees, but at 300 bucks, I could get two or three TN monitors and probably be relatively ok. The "catch" would be the need for display port.

What do you all run with?
3x HP IPS monitors in portrait. Pros: Very high resolution (3820x1920 with bezel comp), which is particularly useful in flight sims. Cons: Expensive, requires powerful comp with 2+ video cards, screen tearing (Eyefinity breaks vsync, and portrait monitors tear more than landscape), bezels in the way.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Dalrain posted:

Hi, I have a pretty quick screen question here for simming: do you all prefer a single large screen setup, or would a multiple smaller screen setup (eyefinity) be better/more awesome? I'm trying to make x-plane 10 useful as an immersive as possible so I can pretend I have a redbird, but I have kind of a low budget.

Over in the Monitor Megathread they talk about Korean IPS monitors (27") as the bees knees, but at 300 bucks, I could get two or three TN monitors and probably be relatively ok. The "catch" would be the need for display port.

What do you all run with?

Realistically, I like one larger better. I had three 22" monitors which were awesome, but literally the only games that actually properly displayed on three screens were iracing and the DCS flight sims. Everything else requires you run at a FOV that makes the side screens look stretched slightly, which isn't necessarily a huge deal, since the side screens are in your peripheral view for the most part. I did enjoy having three screens, but I have one of those korean 27" monitors now and I do prefer it.

Edit:
X-plane may be another sim that actually does use 3 screens properly, I never really used it much, but they seem like the sort of dev that would be on top of that sort of thing.

Meiwaku
Jan 10, 2011

Fun for the whole family!

Dalrain posted:

Hi, I have a pretty quick screen question here for simming: do you all prefer a single large screen setup, or would a multiple smaller screen setup (eyefinity) be better/more awesome? I'm trying to make x-plane 10 useful as an immersive as possible so I can pretend I have a redbird, but I have kind of a low budget.

Over in the Monitor Megathread they talk about Korean IPS monitors (27") as the bees knees, but at 300 bucks, I could get two or three TN monitors and probably be relatively ok. The "catch" would be the need for display port.

What do you all run with?

I'd acquire things in the following order;
1. Basic joystick
2. HOTAS
3. TrackIR
4. Rudder Pedals
5. 23v or larger Monitor
6. 3 Monitors (Eyefinity)
7. MFD/MCP/EFIS/COM hardware
8. 6 Monitors (Eyefinity)

simble
May 11, 2004

The $18 millon man.

I would reverse the HOTAS and TrackIR. It's that good. I'd also add that the joystick should have a twist axis until you get rudder pedals.

Refind Chaos
Sep 16, 2007

Have a nice day!

simble posted:

I would reverse the HOTAS and TrackIR. It's that good. I'd also add that the joystick should have a twist axis until you get rudder pedals.

I concur with this whole heartedly. TrackIR is more important to good flight simming, and about half as costly as a HOTAS.

Also Track IR is a fine replacement for a multi-monitor set-up. One good sized screen + Track IR is better than one good sized screen + HOTAS. If you already have everything above (modified) 3. Then a second or third screen wouldn't be a bad investment.

I concur with this whole heartedly. TrackIR is more important to good flight simming, and about half as costly as a HOTAS.

I'd also say that rudder pedals are less important than a 23+ in. monitor so they should be moved to 5. and a good sized moniter should be moved to 2.

Modified list:

1: Good basic joystick with throttle control
2: Good sized screen (23+ in.)
3: Track IR
4: HOTAS
5: Pedals
6: Multi-Monitor
7. MFD stuff
8: Enough Monitors to increase your room temperature by 10 degrees.
9. Cockpit station.

Edit: My 2 cents x 12.

Refind Chaos fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2012 around 02:28

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007


Kashwashwa posted:

I had three 22" monitors which were awesome, but literally the only games that actually properly displayed on three screens were iracing and the DCS flight sims. Everything else requires you run at a FOV that makes the side screens look stretched slightly, which isn't necessarily a huge deal, since the side screens are in your peripheral view for the most part. I did enjoy having three screens, but I have one of those korean 27" monitors now and I do prefer it.
Weird; I don't have trouble running games on 3-monitors; They sometimes take some config file adjustments, but the only games I've had that flat-out refuse to run playably are Fallout: New Vegas and Thief 2. Might be because I'm running portrait, which is a closer aspect ratio to normal.

However, DCS is the only game I've seen that can actually render a separate viewport for each monitor: That way you have a more realistic projection of the world with the side monitors angled inward; no stretching at the edges. I don't use it though, because it tanks FPS.

Dominoes fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2012 around 02:27

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002

RAVAGE ME SAGAN


Refind Chaos posted:

Also Track IR is a fine replacement for a multi-monitor set-up. One good sized screen + Track IR is better than one good sized screen + HOTAS. If you already have everything above (modified) 3. Then a second or third screen wouldn't be a bad investment.

This is absolutely true for flight sims. Driving sims would still benefit from extra monitors to help with peripheral vision.

Foodahn
Oct 5, 2006

Not a bitch.

Not to beat a dead horse or anything but if you're going to be primarily playing DCS then a Stick and HOTAS are pretty mandatory, even before TrackIR. There are tons of buttons and switches that are necessary to have very close at hand. I also think TrackIR is more important than a huge screen, but I have never played it on less than 24 inches.

I suppose you could play DCS games without a HOTAS if you're really really good at setting up button profiles with a bunch of shiftkeys but I really wouldn't want to try it.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Dominoes posted:

Weird; I don't have trouble running games on 3-monitors; They sometimes take some config file adjustments, but the only games I've had that flat-out refuse to run playably are Fallout: New Vegas and Thief 2. Might be because I'm running portrait, which is a closer aspect ratio to normal.

However, DCS is the only game I've seen that can actually render a separate viewport for each monitor: That way you have a more realistic projection of the world with the side monitors angled inward; no stretching at the edges. I don't use it though, because it tanks FPS.

I don't mean that other games didn't run on three monitors, just that they stretch the FOV on the side monitors as I mentioned. I've played lots of games that were great on three screens, but they still had that stretched look.

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band

I've been playing DCS A-10C lately and I forget how amazing it is.

Frogisis
Apr 15, 2003

Are those moon pants? Because I can see myself in them.

AlbertFlasher posted:

I've been playing DCS A-10C lately and I forget how amazing it is.

Me too, and it definitely is, especially that now with DCS World the scaling of the ground units is tweaked so they're easier to spot.
It's surprising how quickly the controls come back to you, too.

Dalrain
Nov 13, 2008

Experience joy,
Experience waffle,
Today.


Cool, thanks for the replies, folks. I'm looking to get one of the Korean monitors when possible now, and I already have the TrackIR. For controls, I actually have a CH Eclipse yoke and pedals. (No need for stick, I'm just practicing in GA aircraft to keep my instrument training fresh.) I agree on the TrackIR being useful, though I'm hoping the 27" would be enough to put it close and fill my entire field of vision.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011



Man I really need to start playing flight sims again. Have been distracted by a lot of other games. Was excited for DCS Combined Arms but heard it sucks. Do you guys still run DCS multiplayer on a regular basis?

powderific
May 13, 2004



My ancient Saitek X36D has finally given up the ghost The throttle no longer connects at all and the dead zone has become massive. Does anyone have this Thrustmaster? http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-...ame-controllers

I don't play sims like I used to, but I'd like to have something like my old X36 for BF3 jets and possibly planetside 2. I'm particularly enticed by the rudder rocker on the thrustmaster as that's what the X36 had and I never could get used to twist sticks.

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007


powderific posted:

My ancient Saitek X36D has finally given up the ghost The throttle no longer connects at all and the dead zone has become massive. Does anyone have this Thrustmaster? http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-...ame-controllers
We should put a list of specific equipment in the OP. Every month or two, someone generally posts asking for info on a cheap stick/HOTAS, and if they should buy the TM T-Flight HOTAS X you linked, since it's cheap and gets good reviews.

I was one of those guys a few years ago. It's a good HOTAS for $35. I recommend buying it, then getting something more expensive later if you want. It's plug and play - no extra drivers/software required. I didn't like the rudder rocker, and used the twist stick, but it's nice that it has both. It has adjustable stick tension. Mine was solid, but started making an annoying squeak after a few months. The stick and throttle split into two units - I recommend keeping them separate. It doesn't have enough buttons/switches for DCS-A-10/Falcon 4, but I can't think of another game where this would be a showstopper.

powderific
May 13, 2004



Sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. I think the rudder rocker is probably not the best way, but I'm so used to it from the x36 that anything else feels weird. I used to play fight sims almost exclusively, but have since moved to other things and don't need anything amazing. Just something better than an x36 with no throttle.

Daimo
Sep 14, 2007



After much cutting and sanding today, here's a sneak preview of the left console:

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


So for those of you using these Saitek panels, I just realized the SPAD drivers have been updated.

They now include a special mode for the NGX as well as a few bugfixes. If you're not using the SPAD drivers, you should probably just box up the panels and sell them on eBay.

Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002

RAVAGE ME SAGAN


Daimo posted:

After much cutting and sanding today, here's a sneak preview of the left console:



I would be elated if you could share the blueprints when you're done.

Dolphin Fetus
May 31, 2006

We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig. Cow after cow. Village after village. Army after army.

I asked this in the gog thread, but I'll ask here too: I brought a 36$ thrustmaster HOTAS joystick for wing commander, privateer and freespace. Its a tad sensitive, is there anything I can do to fix this or is it just a matter of getting use to my stick?

Also I know I don't have an awesome 400$ warthog but is the stick alright to use for actual real sims?

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-..._pr_product_top

Also is this sim decent enough for the cheap price tag:
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/hind

SwimNurd
Oct 28, 2007

mememememe


The games, and window should allow you to set up curves for the sensitivity, but it has been a very long time since I played wing commander.

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007


I missed the Era sadly, but I remember some goons creaming themselves when they realized this was on GoG:

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/apache_vs_havoc

Coiler12
Jul 25, 2010


Ok, so hello. I've been getting into flight sims, having a lot of fun with Il-2 1946 on fairly low realism settings and a pretty basic Logitec joystick. It leaves me desiring more.

Unfortunately, my computer isn't really a top of the line games machine (Toshiba Satellite C655 with a Pentium B690 @ 2.20 GHz, if you're curious), and attempting to move up with free games hasn't really worked.

-Freefalcon 6.0 didn't work at all-I looked on the forums and found the reason, being that if you have an integrated and not dedicated graphics card, it simply doesn't work.

-Rise of Flight's free version technically worked, but was slow and barely responsive to the point of being effectively unplayable. Turning down the graphics just turned it into a slow and ugly game.

So, if you don't mind the questions, I have some?

-How steep is the learning curve on Freefalcon, even if (if you can) you start low-realism easy play and work your way up?

-Do I need a better joystick?

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

sure why not?

If you want to get some reasonably good helicopter action in too, the old Enemy Engaged gmaes on GoG are quite good and some modders have updated the graphics a bit and even added in the Mi24.

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011


Xerxes17 posted:

If you want to get some reasonably good helicopter action in too, the old Enemy Engaged gmaes on GoG are quite good and some modders have updated the graphics a bit and even added in the Mi24.
The modding community did wonders for EEAH/CH, and the vanilla sim itself is also pretty solid.
While the flight model is not as complex as, say, DCS:BS, it is still very enjoyable, the dynamic campaign engine is solid and it's a sim that simulates the RAH-66 Comanches combat capabilities well, i.e: it's a Recon/Attack helo with emphasis on Recon.
The AH-64D Apache/Longbow also received a lot of love from the modders (PFZs+LOAL HFs ), the Mi-24 Hind is now beautifully rendered and, if I'm not mistaken, can be used to carry troops when assaulting an enemy FOB/base.


Edit:

Jefferoo posted:

Anyone else here still play old flight sims? Like TFX and F-19 Stealth Fighter? I've gotten them running on my Macbook Pro finally and they've really hit the nostalgia chord for me.
Oh my goodness, TFX.
I still have the floppies somewhere, and I loved it so. It was just a great game and had some kick-rear end music.

radintorov fucked around with this message at Aug 12, 2012 around 20:02

Jefferoo
Jun 23, 2008
PLEASE GO AWAY JEFFEROO. YOU ARE NOT AN INTELLECTUAL SAVIOR, YOU ARE THE WORST POSTER IN GAMES(AND RAPIDLY GOING DEAF!) AND A BLIGHT UPON HUMANITY.


Anyone else here still play old flight sims? Like TFX and F-19 Stealth Fighter? I've gotten them running on my Macbook Pro finally and they've really hit the nostalgia chord for me.

ThePlague-Daemon
Apr 16, 2008


I've gotten back into IL-2 again, and I feel like it's going pretty well this time. I can take off and land most of the time, and my aim's not completely awful. Is the goon group for IL-2 still around?

Also, is FaceTrackNoIR not very good? Every time I try to use it it feels either too delayed or too shaky, depending on my settings. Different lighting didn't seem to help much. Have I just not found the right settings, or do I need to give up on it?

Last question. I bought Comanche/Hokum awhile back and was never able to get into it. Are there any learning resources for it like Straight from the Farm or Dart's videos for IL-2? I don't even know where to start with this game, the key guide alone is overwhelming.

Thanks, I've been interested in flight sims for years but was never able to get into them because of the learning curve.

Snapshot
Oct 21, 2004

damnit Matt get in the boat

I have another computer finally. I'll be back around in a few days once setup is complete, and I have the chance to install everything again.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

Some missions, you just can't get rid of a bomb

Jefferoo posted:

Anyone else here still play old flight sims? Like TFX and F-19 Stealth Fighter? I've gotten them running on my Macbook Pro finally and they've really hit the nostalgia chord for me.

I still play F-19 every once in a while. Staying under radar coverage to snap photos of a tank farm and avoiding all contact and detection has such a feeling of palpable tension.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

Has anyone done the magnet mod for the X52? Is it worth it?

Edit: gently caress it, did it. Seems way more responsive now, and the dumb dead-zone circle is gone.

MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at Aug 16, 2012 around 11:12

Killstick
Jan 17, 2010



MrOnBicycle posted:

Has anyone done the magnet mod for the X52? Is it worth it?

Edit: gently caress it, did it. Seems way more responsive now, and the dumb dead-zone circle is gone.

Can you link to this procedure?

Dalrain
Nov 13, 2008

Experience joy,
Experience waffle,
Today.


Killstick posted:

Can you link to this procedure?

There's decent coverage on the swap on this forum. http://www.overclock.net/t/940577/s...xes-56k-warning

Meiwaku
Jan 10, 2011

Fun for the whole family!

Any good way to get the TM cougar throttle if you already have a warthog?
After watching Iron Eagle, ready to dive into some Falcon BMS.

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MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

Killstick posted:

Can you link to this procedure?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJNiHmEszk

I did this but used glue instead. If you decide to do it note the small holes in the plastic where the magnets are at. Very easy to push out the magnets using those. I have yet to try it in a proper flight sim, but so far I'm liking it. I only used one magnet on each sensor.

Super simple procedure.

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