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Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



Nenonen posted:


OH MY GOD

THIS

THIS IS THE BEST GAME

I remember playing this so much when I was little. I think I still have the manual scans for the copy protection screen laying around somewhere.

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orange lime
Jul 24, 2008



FLX posted:

What I would love to have is just a small, flat box, with six joystick axes (three connected to faders and three connected to wheels) and a couple of joystick buttons, connected to my computer via USB. The faders would control throttle, prop and mixture, and the wheels would control trim. Is there a cheap and easy way to build/get this? I'm really not a technician at all and have never soldered anything in my life.

An Arduino Uno would be a great core for that kind of device. I'm pretty sure you can program the USB chip to act as an HID device, and it's trivial to attach various kinds of sensors and buttons to it.

It's not exactly "easy", but that is the easiEST way to put something like that together from scratch.

Snapshot
Oct 21, 2004

damnit Matt get in the boat

orange lime posted:

An Arduino Uno would be a great core for that kind of device. I'm pretty sure you can program the USB chip to act as an HID device, and it's trivial to attach various kinds of sensors and buttons to it.

It's not exactly "easy", but that is the easiEST way to put something like that together from scratch.

They're just working on the usb interface for that. Something about needing to reflash the USB chip.

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003



The uHid device does all the things necessary for that idea and seems pretty easy since everything but attaching and assigning the buttons is already done. The free software is really easy to program to make each thing you plug in work as you want, whether it is a button press, rotary encoder, analog axis, LED light, etc. I haven't tried one, though, but from what I've read it sounds great. I'm not sure why more simpit setups don't use it, though. Seems pretty straight forward.

http://www.u-hid.com/home/overview_board.php
http://www.ultimarc.com/JShopServer...xSec=13&xPage=1

quote:

What is a HID?

HID stands for Human Interface Device. This is a term used to describe certain types of PC peripheral, usually connected via USB.
Windows and Mac OS support a number of "native" HID devices using in-built drivers. The U-HID board appears as the following HID devices on the PC:

*Keyboard
*Gamepad (including analog and digital controls)
*Mouse
*LED outputs

The way in which the board emulates natively-supported devices means it requires no special drivers or host software, with the exception of LED output control.

The board has 50 connections which can be configured to any of these HID device types providing a truly universal interface. For example, you can connect pushbuttons to generate keyboard keystrokes, trackballs to act as a mouse, pedals to act as analog game controller joysticks, or hundreds of other device types.

The PC will see all the devices as something it recognises, so all standard applications will work.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

At $80, it's a pretty hefty starting point considering you still have to buy all your switches. I wonder if it'd just be better to ebay some used goflight modules instead.

gman14msu
Mar 10, 2009


Anyone have a recommended program so I can save my flight tracks from FSX and view them in Google Earth later?

FLX
Sep 18, 2005

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I also found the Arcaze USB HID interface, which is a little cheaper and has buttons and rotary encoders you can buy directly from the manufacturer. It seems like you just plug everything together and program the board with a simple software your PC.

I think I'll try this out once I've got 100€ to spare.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



So, CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle: Worth $260? In the last thread I asked about and said I was going to get the Saitek X52, but the money ended up going towards a new printer for my sister instead so I never did pick it up. The X52 is half the price, but you guys said the stick itself can be a bit loose and shoddy, and I do like the look of the Fighterstick a lot more.

orange lime
Jul 24, 2008



Insert name here posted:

So, CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle: Worth $260? In the last thread I asked about and said I was going to get the Saitek X52, but the money ended up going towards a new printer for my sister instead so I never did pick it up. The X52 is half the price, but you guys said the stick itself can be a bit loose and shoddy, and I do like the look of the Fighterstick a lot more.

Do you have a set of pedals? Rudder control is pretty important and you won't get that with the Fighterstick.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



orange lime posted:

Do you have a set of pedals? Rudder control is pretty important and you won't get that with the Fighterstick.
No, but to be fair at the moment I'm flying without pedals. I don't super hardcore sim, probably 90% of all my simming is Strike Fighters 2 on the normal flight physics setting. Not denying that pedals would be better, but at least for now I'm doing fine without them.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Don't worry, not only am I not using pedals and the default twist, I'm using a profile that was MADE BY ANOTHER.

It's heresy and burning in one thread at least.

Viktor
Nov 12, 2005



Insert name here posted:

OH MY GOD

THIS

THIS IS THE BEST GAME

I remember playing this so much when I was little. I think I still have the manual scans for the copy protection screen laying around somewhere.

The copy protection was a spinning disc. You had to choose the nose art and then the plane silhouette to get the female name key.

I actually popped open the box to put the keydisc back and I found the receipt dated December 17/1992 for $59.95. I forgot how much value this game was, two different install media, 224 page coiled manual, instructions for tandy, and the awesome box.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

It's probably my second most fondly remembered action flight game, after Crimson Skies (PC not Xbox) Which is one of the my all time favourite games.

Viktor
Nov 12, 2005



ShineDog posted:

It's probably my second most fondly remembered action flight game, after Crimson Skies (PC not Xbox) Which is one of the my all time favourite games.

Indeed, I remember playing for weeks working on a campaign in the later part of WW2 flying a Horten Ho 229 to down incoming bombers. Saving every bullet and having a bomb load-out to use on their bases back in England. Lost the save file over the years, but I wish I still had it as the game had some amazing detail to the overall operations of a war.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


ShineDog posted:

It's probably my second most fondly remembered action flight game, after Crimson Skies (PC not Xbox) Which is one of the my all time favourite games.

My most fondly remembered action flight game was playing Air Warrior with my dad when I was 7 on AOL

Why can't there be Air Warrior 2010? I just want to fly planes around on the internet and bomb things in a persistent world, dammit.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

I don't always shut out teams,
but when I do,
I do it handsomely.


Luigi Thirty posted:

My most fondly remembered action flight game was playing Air Warrior with my dad when I was 7 on AOL

Why can't there be Air Warrior 2010? I just want to fly planes around on the internet and bomb things in a persistent world, dammit.

I used to play a lot of this. The game is not without it's flaws, but it allows you to fly around (on the internet) and bombing things in a persistent world...dammit.

EDIT: AH has been around for a loooong time and is the spiritual and literal successor to Air Warrior, considering some of the AW devs founded AH.

Overwined fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2011 around 05:51

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


Overwined posted:

I used to play a lot of this. The game is not without it's flaws, but it allows you to fly around (on the internet) and bombing things in a persistent world...dammit.

EDIT: AH has been around for a loooong time and is the spiritual and literal successor to Air Warrior, considering some of the AW devs founded AH.

Oh poo poo I played that a long time ago and forgot all about it. I remember the community being complete crap but the game was all right.

Schindler's Fist
Jul 22, 2004
Weasels! Get 'em off me! Aaaa!

ack! posted:

The uHid device does all the things necessary for that idea and seems pretty easy since everything but attaching and assigning the buttons is already done. The free software is really easy to program to make each thing you plug in work as you want, whether it is a button press, rotary encoder, analog axis, LED light, etc. I haven't tried one, though, but from what I've read it sounds great. I'm not sure why more simpit setups don't use it, though. Seems pretty straight forward.

http://www.u-hid.com/home/overview_board.php
http://www.ultimarc.com/JShopServer...xSec=13&xPage=1

Thanks for posting this. It could be used to refurbish an ancient gameport CH fighterstick, pro throttle, and pedals. Any other suggestions on how to use these old things would be great.

I recently read that there's a Mac port of F4:AF under way.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

I don't always shut out teams,
but when I do,
I do it handsomely.


Luigi Thirty posted:

Oh poo poo I played that a long time ago and forgot all about it. I remember the community being complete crap but the game was all right.

I never found it to be that bad, though many of them were so entrenched in it (like decades) that they were simply insufferable. I am sure there are plenty of kind easy-going people left. I'm sort of tempted to check it out again myself considering how long it's been since I last played.

Strategic and tactical bombing in the game are a lot of fun. I flew in some random squad back then and about 90% of our missions were upping heavy jabo to bomb some base's AA emplacements or hangars or upping heavy B-17s to bomb the poo poo out of our enemies HQ on the other side of the map.

EDIT: Bish 4 Lyfe SUCKA

Overwined fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2011 around 15:24

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

After that, it's all a bit...........fuzzy...


Dassault Falcon 7X

















EDIT: MORE PICS






Kilonum fucked around with this message at Feb 17, 2011 around 16:20

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


Haha, now I remember why this game was fun. Rook idiot flies a Lancaster 20 minutes to Bish airfield... at 3000 feet. No escort. I scramble in a Yak-9 (the best plane) and blow his AI planes out of the sky (he was too busy operating the bombsight to shoot back I guess) before slamming into him at 300mph. Whoops!

He angrily kept coming back every 15 minutes in bigger and bigger bombers, but by then the rest of my team had showed up at the airfield to repeatedly drop the hammer on him. The best teamwork. The only thing he managed to blow up was the vehicle hangar

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

I remember having all the cockpit art for Air Warrior on a CD from some gaming mag which was big deal since getting it all on 56k would have taken forever. Anyone rememer Warbirds? That was another favorite online similar o my youth

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


I played the free single player Warbirds demo they had a lot. I kept trying to actually take over airfields by myself, of course it never worked.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Some FSX pics.

Sorry about the 'windowed' mode...

Just upgraded monitors so I have three 22"ers now. The original resolution is 5040 x 1050 (1680 x 1050 on three monitors).

Tinypic only allowed around 30% of that resolution so the detail doesn't quite come through.

Spitfire Interior 1:
http://i51.tinypic.com/63ykop.png

Spitfire Interior 2:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2s7dmah.png

Spitfire Takeoff:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2wny45k.jpg

Spitfire Exterior 1:
http://i53.tinypic.com/2rmnq77.png

Spitfire Exterior 2:
http://i53.tinypic.com/1055ruu.png

Spitfire Ground:
http://i53.tinypic.com/2e0uv06.png



B17 Close:
http://i55.tinypic.com/sdmmbo.png

B17 Distance:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2e0uyie.png

B17 Landing 1:
http://i56.tinypic.com/90r8ur.png

B17 Landing 2:
http://i56.tinypic.com/331qaf5.png

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


Woah.

How did you get FSX to do widescreen like that?

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Just run it windowed, and drag the window to the desktop size. The FOV isn't right when you do that, but there is a FOV utility I downloaded that let's you set it however you want.

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007


You could probably crop the image too.

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


Kashwashwa posted:

Just run it windowed, and drag the window to the desktop size. The FOV isn't right when you do that, but there is a FOV utility I downloaded that let's you set it however you want.

I did that, it shows black on my other monitor.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Lord Commissar posted:

I did that, it shows black on my other monitor.

I'm guessing you have your video card outputting to two monitors and not an ATI Eyefinity set up? Eyefinity makes the computer think it's actually just one large display.

Your only option is to create a 'second window' undock it, and move it to the other screen.

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


Kashwashwa posted:

I'm guessing you have your video card outputting to two monitors and not an ATI Eyefinity set up? Eyefinity makes the computer think it's actually just one large display.

Your only option is to create a 'second window' undock it, and move it to the other screen.

Right.

And I did that once, too, but then it didn't work with TrackIR so it was pointless.

Oh well. 25" monitor is still pretty good.

SwimNurd
Oct 28, 2007

mememememe


Commie, I think your computer just hates you.

Colonial Air Force
May 22, 2002

Bombing Redcoats since 1775.


Nah. It works fine in X-Plane.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


JayKay posted:

I remember having all the cockpit art for Air Warrior on a CD from some gaming mag which was big deal since getting it all on 56k would have taken forever. Anyone rememer Warbirds? That was another favorite online similar o my youth

I had that CD too! My dad wouldn't let me play as Country B or fly German planes because they were so it was P-38 for lyfe.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

I don't always shut out teams,
but when I do,
I do it handsomely.


Luigi Thirty posted:

Haha, now I remember why this game was fun. Rook idiot flies a Lancaster 20 minutes to Bish airfield... at 3000 feet. No escort. I scramble in a Yak-9 (the best plane) and blow his AI planes out of the sky (he was too busy operating the bombsight to shoot back I guess) before slamming into him at 300mph. Whoops!

He angrily kept coming back every 15 minutes in bigger and bigger bombers, but by then the rest of my team had showed up at the airfield to repeatedly drop the hammer on him. The best teamwork. The only thing he managed to blow up was the vehicle hangar

I remember years ago some squadmates and I were upping from a rear base to do a strategic bombing run in B-17s with P-51 escorts. I was in an escort and when we were reaching the 10,000ft mark we spotted an enemy Lanc box pretty close to us. I dropped out of formation to harass him, but I quickly realized he was afk. He must have been afk for a long time because his nearest friendly base was clear on the other side of the map.

I pulled up behind him and squeezed some shots into engines and blew up his entire box pretty quickly. I returned to formation and, I'm not joking, TWO HOURS later when we're on an entirely different sortie, he comes onto public chat and he is cursing up a storm at me. Apparently it "isn't polite" to take out a bomber group that is afk. Cue ensuing shitstorm over the propriety of shooting down afk planes.

When I had spare time on my hands I would up a nice fighter with a droptank and patrol for afk bombers and I invariably found one. I know it takes a long time to get anywhere in those things, but at least check in on it from time to time.

TheNotsosuperHero
Oct 28, 2004

My powers include using shampoo and wearing pants

Kashwashwa posted:

Some FSX pics.

Sorry about the 'windowed' mode...

Just upgraded monitors so I have three 22"ers now. The original resolution is 5040 x 1050 (1680 x 1050 on three monitors).

Tinypic only allowed around 30% of that resolution so the detail doesn't quite come through.

Spitfire Interior 1:
http://i51.tinypic.com/63ykop.png

Spitfire Interior 2:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2s7dmah.png

Spitfire Takeoff:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2wny45k.jpg

Spitfire Exterior 1:
http://i53.tinypic.com/2rmnq77.png

Spitfire Exterior 2:
http://i53.tinypic.com/1055ruu.png

Spitfire Ground:
http://i53.tinypic.com/2e0uv06.png

Oh very cool. I bought that spitfire as well, it's one of the best aircraft I've ever flown after 15 years playing sims. It feels insanely good and is fairly challenging to me. I can get up in the air and fly from a to b all just fine, but when I land I always have white smoke pouring out of my aircraft which basically fucks up my engine. I'm following landing procedure to a "t," any ideas?

orange lime
Jul 24, 2008



TheNotsosuperHero posted:

Oh very cool. I bought that spitfire as well, it's one of the best aircraft I've ever flown after 15 years playing sims. It feels insanely good and is fairly challenging to me. I can get up in the air and fly from a to b all just fine, but when I land I always have white smoke pouring out of my aircraft which basically fucks up my engine. I'm following landing procedure to a "t," any ideas?

Mixture set properly? Engine in proper temperature range? Supercharger (if applicable) at the proper altitude settings?

If none of those, chalk it up to humidity and/or a weird old plane.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

TheNotsosuperHero posted:

Oh very cool. I bought that spitfire as well, it's one of the best aircraft I've ever flown after 15 years playing sims. It feels insanely good and is fairly challenging to me. I can get up in the air and fly from a to b all just fine, but when I land I always have white smoke pouring out of my aircraft which basically fucks up my engine. I'm following landing procedure to a "t," any ideas?

Heh, I have the same problem. I've found that the coolant temperature gets super hot for some reason. It's a really hard balance trying to taxi the thing in time so that the engine doesn't overheat, while not keeping the throttle too low that the motor starts to stall (and spews out black smoke).

I consider it a success if I manage to park it and turn the motor off with just a bit of hissing coming from the rad (a bit over 100 degrees). Obviously this is with the rad 100% open too.

It really is an amazing aircraft to fly though.... the amount of detail is seriously impressive (like for instance that one side of the landing gear retracts more quickly than the other, which I've shown in one of the pictures).

To be honest I find it's pretty simple compared to the P47 though.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


Overwined posted:

I pulled up behind him and squeezed some shots into engines and blew up his entire box pretty quickly. I returned to formation and, I'm not joking, TWO HOURS later when we're on an entirely different sortie, he comes onto public chat and he is cursing up a storm at me. Apparently it "isn't polite" to take out a bomber group that is afk. Cue ensuing shitstorm over the propriety of shooting down afk planes

Yeah, the people in this game have some weird sense of honor.

The Yak-9 is the most fun plane in the game. 0 to 300 faster than some planes can get off the ground and it handles like nothing else. Great for intercepting bombers since you can quickly get shots off and zoom by them at 300 miles an hour before their gunners get a chance to react.

I just wish it had more than 20 minutes of gas. And more than 300 rounds of ammo. Thankfully they don't simulate the real-life problems with the plane like engines blowing up mid-flight for no reason.

Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at Feb 17, 2011 around 21:45

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

After that, it's all a bit...........fuzzy...


VFR from Pheonix to El Paso tonight:





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Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007


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