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I recently started taking flyball classes with my jack russell, Dexter. His best friend, Wags, is taking the same class. So not only does he get to run and jump, but he gets to wrestle with his BFF while waiting for the next exercise. Basically, flyball is quickly becoming the highlight of his week. Last night was only his fourth lesson and he is way better than I imagined he would be at this point. I am getting hopeful that we can actually get to the point where we can compete. Here are some videos from his second lesson. Jump work (the other dog shown is Wags): http://youtu.be/e_K51Sqh-V4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXLtZpMBpSU Practicing jumping off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXSi2YM-I60 Clumsily figuring out the box: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjCTldZqNbo And then here are some from last night, which was his fourth lesson. Jump work. Right before we did this exercise, he discovered the joys of squishy balls. I was experimenting to see if he responded better to those than treats/tug toys. Even though he zoomed out of control, I was slightly proud of him for zooming back over the jumps because we have only gone one way so far  . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZTAG-_vByE Box work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Js5e2N2m8 I am pretty sure my family and friends are sick of me talking about flyball, so I am glad I saw this thread.
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cryingscarf that looks great. I'm really jonesing to get into Flyball. It keeps itching at the back of my brain! I just don't have a convenient place to take lessons, so I keep putting it off. I've been doing a bit of reading on how to teach a proper box turn, so it's neat to see some of the exercises shown by a green dog like Dexter on video.  I can't wait to do it myself. I'll have to settle for relays in the mean time.
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Well I'll talk about flyball, even though Pongo has not had a lesson (he is on a waiting list for next available slot). The place where he's going to train won't let them start until they're a year old, which is Halloween for Pongo, but they did let me put him on the list. And then I found out that there's a pre-flyball class that they can take anytime after 3 months. Oh...well. I think he is going to love it, but at what point do balls come out of that box? Because I think Pongo would jump on the box all day once he knew that BALLS came out of it. Do they have any suggestions on how to get your dogs to go fast? Pongo can be very fast, and when he's zooming around the yard I usually say things like "Yes! Fast! Go! Yes!" but nothing that would indicate a treat because that would stop him (I think). So I know he does like to go fast, but I don't know how to make him want to.
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We haven't introduced the ball yet, so I am not sure. I was under the impression that your dog had to have the habit down of running down the jumps, hitting the box, and running back over the jumps before the ball was introduced. But I could be wrong. The way everyone seems to get their dog to run fast is to act like a complete idiot. Squeaking toys, yelling happy things, running around, playing tug before running, etc. Basically getting the dog all crazy and excited. I am trying to work on Dexter's ball drive. He is getting a little better, but I feel like we need to do more. He loves balls, but the problem is that normally he just chases the ball, bites it to stop it, and then leaves it where it is. If it is not moving, it is not fun. I started out clicking/treating when he picked it up, and slowly worked to trying to get him to bring it back to me. It is hit or miss whether or not he actually does this. Anyone have any ideas on how to improve this?
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cryingscarf posted:We haven't introduced the ball yet, so I am not sure. I was under the impression that your dog had to have the habit down of running down the jumps, hitting the box, and running back over the jumps before the ball was introduced. But I could be wrong. We recently had a big multipage discussion on the pros and cons of various retrieval techniques (with videos!) in the Dog Training Megathread. I think it started here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...0#post394566807 Some dogs are natural retrievers. A lot aren't. Basically you start teaching the retrieve when the ball is already in your hand. You want the dog to take the object from your hand, then put it back in your hand. That way all the distractions that are involved in an actual game of throwing the ball don't enter into the equation. We sperg on it a lot there, and I think it'd be worth your time to at least read my posts and notsoape's. Note: I don't know how they work the ball into flyball so the conversation may not apply. However I still think it's important for a dog to have a retrieve-to-hand. Rhymes With Clue posted:Well I'll talk about flyball, even though Pongo has not had a lesson (he is on a waiting list for next available slot). The place where he's going to train won't let them start until they're a year old, which is Halloween for Pongo, but they did let me put him on the list. And then I found out that there's a pre-flyball class that they can take anytime after 3 months. Oh...well. The flyball box is a high impact aspect of the sport. There are loads of injuries to dogs' front ends while racing due to the force at which they hit the box. Most people with puppy flyball prospects don't start teaching the box until the pup is well developed - no younger than 18 months, with 24 being more ideal. Hopefully your trainer will focus more on restrained recalls and drive building and not the actual box turn. As for getting speed, one of my favourite agility trainers uses the acronym DASH. Desire Accuracy Speed Habitat. As in, first you create the desire and drive for the game. Then you work on ensuring the dog understands the criteria of the game. Once the dog loves and understands the game then the speed will come. Finally you add habitat, where you switch up the environment so the dog is capable of playing the game in varied areas.
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a life less posted:As for getting speed, one of my favourite agility trainers uses the acronym DASH. Desire Accuracy Speed Habitat. As in, first you create the desire and drive for the game. Then you work on ensuring the dog understands the criteria of the game. Once the dog loves and understands the game then the speed will come.
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It is / has been a big weekend in the world of dog sports. German Sheperds have competed in Schutzhund. Their World Championship event WUSV is held in Kiew, Ukraine this year and I'm happy to report my countrymen have done pretty well with their home bred dogs. Results: http://wusv-2011.com/en/results There are also agility WCs going on, but I don't have any comprehensive links for that one. Maybe Rixatrix can help 
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No comprehensive links, but I've been itching to comment on the courses which are insane. Not a single competitor made the course time in Individual Agility Small, for example. Some of the course maps: http://koirakuvat.kuvat.fi/kuvat/ag...09_IMG_9201.jpg http://koirakuvat.kuvat.fi/kuvat/ag...08_IMG_8965.jpg http://koirakuvat.kuvat.fi/kuvat/ag...09_IMG_9405.jpg http://koirakuvat.kuvat.fi/kuvat/ag...08_IMG_8968.jpg Apparently the grass was slippery for the dogs, and at least Garrett's Feature (or is this Encore?) took a fall: http://koirakuvat.kuvat.fi/kuvat/ag...11/1MG_0390.jpg
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Rixatrix posted:No comprehensive links, but I've been itching to comment on the courses which are insane. Not a single competitor made the course time in Individual Agility Small, for example. Jeez, those are insane. And that's Encore. Feature has white legs. (I'm kind of ashamed I know that...)
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I just got some photos from an event I did ages ago. Some of them are pretty cool so I thought I'd share. I'm really loving this one. She looks so sleek and long!  She's running a course designed for big and small dogs alike, which explains the super low jump height. Forgive the pointy finger in these shots - I think I've trained myself out of it by now... I think.  More tire, because she looks snazzy.  I'm sure I'll be spamming photos in here periodically as I get the photos from our shows. All these are just for fun and used to showcase my training facility's programs and force-free training.
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alifeless, I'm not sure you look plump and butch enough to be truly involved in dog sports Cohen is adorable, and since we are hating our current obedience classes, maybe we'll check your place out. (How much of a geek am I that I recognise you tshirt from reading Dogs in Canada?) Umm, on a less stalkerish note: Radar is now a Canadian Field Champion, woo hoo. He's still less fit than I'd like (I suck at running) but he did pretty well, taught me a lesson about rage by running away at the start, and I learned a tonne about the nuts and bolts of coursing, from laying the course to tying new bag, etc. I was lucky enough to see one Whippet progress from singles to BIF at his very first weekend out; his owner was actually crying with joy. Any suggestions for a winter reading list? I'd love to hear from anyone who competes in any sport, really, as helpful stuff is found anywhere. Is there a book which is your go-to?
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badmomrising posted:alifeless, I'm not sure you look plump and butch enough to be truly involved in dog sports I was going to PM you about obedience classes, but, well, you have no PMs! What are you looking for in classes? Where are you now? Maybe toss me an email at and we can talk shop. Major congrats on Radar! He sounds like a star. I would love to meet him one day! e: email removed. a life less fucked around with this message at Oct 11, 2011 around 12:42 |
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alifeless, sent you an email, thanks!
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a life less posted: It's cool you guys get to run with gear on the dog. When you play by the FCI rules you're disqualified if you forget a collar on your dog (and the long haired breeds are only allowed to wear ONE hair band in order to see where they are going - leads to quite a few clipped dogs running agility!)My go-to resource at the moment is Clean Run magazine (Agility focused obviously, but there's a lot of useful general training stuff as well). Suzanne Clothier's articles are a good read and available free on her website. An older book I really like is Schutzhund Obedience - Training in Drive, though I forget who wrote it. I'm also slowly working my way through Stephen R. Lindsay's Handbook of Applied Dog Behavior and Training (I've only got the third part for now). I don't agree with all of what Lindsay has to say, but the Handbook is comprehensive and has a level-headed approach to controversial things.
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Rixatrix posted:She really does look gorgeous Those photos aren't of competitions, but performances. AAC has the same rule you do -- gotta run the dogs naked, or be disqualified. I bought a special blingy collar for Cohen's performances. It's huge and cute. I'm going to go meander over to Clothier's site now and check out those articles. Cheers!
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badmomrising posted:Any suggestions for a winter reading list? I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but I thought I'd offer. We were in the process of becoming volunteer trainers at our local shelter, so we asked our trainer (CPDT, has met most of the big trainers out there -- Dunbar, Miller, Pryor, etc) for book recommendations so we could become more qualified. We'll never do it professionally, but we'd love to volunteer and help with the basics. She gave us an enormous list of books, mostly focusing on training and behavior basics. A lot of the ones she listed I had never heard of before and weren't in the Training thread, so I can't vette them personally, but if you're looking for titles, they might be worth checking out. On another note, we've just accepted a new job in Boulder, CO, so we are moving in the next couple of weeks -- very excited. Do we have any PI goons that compete in dog sports in the Greater Denver area?
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Last night was our fifth flyball class. Dexter is making so much progress on the box. He is now doing it with no prop under the box and no jump in front! Box work at the beginning of class. We tried a smaller jump in front of the box, didn't bother him at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3nVlSWVPQ8 Then later in the night when we did box work again, we took everything away to see what he did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HjmAb5yl3U I love in the beginning of the second video where he was only supposed to hop over the jump and back, and he tried to make it all the way to the box. If I stand near the box and don't tell him to do anything, he will put his front paws on it and look back at me like "treat?". The box is definitely fun for him Jump work. Nothing really new here other than the fact that he is working for the ball instead of treats now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKseXzkSSps
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Just a couple videos of our afghan hound bitch, Soleil, lure coursing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx1ZaOxU91Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrb07jkMgy8 She got a Best in Field in Camden a few weeks ago, beating several breeds including a whippet in her same course. Soleil had a litter of 8 puppies on June 10th and she was back out on the lure coursing field when they were 3.5 months old. Here are a few shots of three of her puppies at coursing practice @ 4 months old:  Catelyn - Kominek's Winterfell's Vengeance  Khaleesi - Kominek's Dragon's Pyre  Cersei - Kominek's Play the Game of Thrones Catelyn is owned by a couple that live close to us and will be shown and coursed, and we're keeping Khaleesi and Cersei. SelmaDVangel fucked around with this message at Oct 12, 2011 around 14:45 |
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SelmaDVangel posted:Catelyn Khaleesi Cersei Beautiful pups, I love how elegant they look even with all the crazy fur The naming scheme is wonderful!Edit: Do we get more puppy pictures?? adventure in the sandbox fucked around with this message at Oct 12, 2011 around 15:07 |
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adventure in the sandbox posted:Beautiful pups, I love how elegant they look even with all the crazy fur Thanks. You can see the other puppies and their names on their litter announcement page we did for afghansonline.com: http://www.dvangel.com/media/2011-0...ent-8weeks.html
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They look lovely and I am in love with their names and the announcement page! I don't know anything about Afghan conformation, especially in puppies. I take it Cersei and Khaleesi are show prospects, how about the other 6? The best picture is Sansa, with another puppy trying to get to her
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SelmaDVangel posted:Thanks. You can see the other puppies and their names on their litter announcement page we did for afghansonline.com: http://www.dvangel.com/media/2011-0...ent-8weeks.html Is it the angle of the picture or is Tyrion the runt of the litter?
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SelmaDVangel posted:Thanks. You can see the other puppies and their names on their litter announcement page we did for afghansonline.com: http://www.dvangel.com/media/2011-0...ent-8weeks.html They're all gorgeous! It seems like Soleil was a little fuzzball just yesterday but maybe I've just been in PI for too long.
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I've been following these guys since they were potatoes, and they are a litter of truly even and impressive quality. You could stick a pin in and come out with a great looking puppy, but my absolute favourite structurally has always been Eddard. Has Sansa's monkey fuzz come through? Is she dominoing out?
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Thanks, NotSoApe! We are really proud of the way the pups are turning out. I don't think we had a fugly pup in terms of conformation in the bunch. They have been lots of work (honestly, more for Sachiel, who was amazing when they were teeny and required around the clock supervision/care) but the litter has been a wonderful experience. Sansa is a little lighter, but still really pretty. She is getting these gold stripes on her ears, so pretty...
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SelmaDVangel posted:Thanks, NotSoApe! You're making GBS threads me--we were coursing with Malone (the litter sire, unless I can't actually read a pedigree?) this past weekend! He's a machine on the field, and it's always fun to watch an Afghan in coat course (less fun as huntmaster, because you know there will be a line cutting and several bags needing to be replaced )Wait, does that mean I was snuzzling a couple of your puppies? Small world! And congratulations! How did you come upon Malone as a sire? Are there as many OZ-lines Affies in the US as in Canada? And, and, and... beautiful litter, and it is such a pleasure to see sighthounds bred for perfomance, too. (Breathless, idiot rant out.)
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badmomrising posted:You're making GBS threads me--we were coursing with Malone (the litter sire, unless I can't actually read a pedigree?) this past weekend! He's a machine on the field, and it's always fun to watch an Afghan in coat course (less fun as huntmaster, because you know there will be a line cutting and several bags needing to be replaced Small coursing world! Thank you for loving on the pupplins! Drogo and Eddard are from the litter and owned by Jeanie Martin. Eddard is a studly manly, and easily the pick of the litter in our opinions; we're so lucky; Jeanie is such an amazing person and one of the best in the dog world. You couldn't ask for a better sire owner or a better home. Drogo is really coming together nicely as well and has one of the best personalities. We met Malone several times coursing down in Georgia when we took notice of him. He's six, so we've seen him over the past several years at different venues and came to appreciate the old-type afghan that he is. He's down from OLD Australian lines, not some of the over showy, purely ring-bred Aussie stuff which you mostly see in North America. His gait is impeccable, and sealed the deal for wanting to use him for our first breeding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYdtxZWU18I We "borrowed" Malone from Jeanie for seven months over the winter and coursed and showed him in our region of NC. Sachiel put 12 points and a major on him and got a specialty major reserve on the LAST DAY we were showing him, SO CLOSE. We'll try to finish his ring championship at some point, but trying to wrestle him away from Jeanie again will probably be next to impossible! He's a wonderful dog to live with with a true afghan temperament: proud and confident. Malone's drive is something we thankfully see in the WHOLE litter. We didn't have one puppy refuse to course either a flirt pole or the plastic at practice. Sachiel has a "method" for retrieving Malone at the end of the course by completely scooping him off the ground and blowing in his ear if he doesn't get to him before he latches on for the kill, which I think Jeanie is still trying to master, lol. He IS a machine! SelmaDVangel fucked around with this message at Oct 14, 2011 around 01:30 |
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SelmaDVangel posted:Small coursing world! Thank you for loving on the pupplins! Drogo and Eddard are from the litter and owned by Jeanie Martin. Eddard is a studly manly, and easily the pick of the litter in our opinions; we're so lucky; Jeanie is such an amazing person and one of the best in the dog world. You couldn't ask for a better sire owner or a better home. Drogo is really coming together nicely as well and has one of the best personalities. Ha ha, that really is hilarious; we only moved to Ontario (from the West Coast) in August, and have just attended two trials here, but Malone's kennel name was oddly familiar--sure enough, the same guy. His breeder was out coursing, too, along with her new puppies from Ladybug (Malone's sister?). And a litter of smooth Salukis, so, puppy heaven! The Ibizan world seems pretty small, especially since everybody hates half of everybody else, so I find it fascinating that the performance side of Afghans is so small, despite the big number of dogs total. Ten years ago, when I was living in England, I was thisclose to getting an Aff pup, but that was really the last time I was current on the breed's goings-on. It's fun to have a litter to watch for, now! And I agree, I think you'll be prying Malone from Jeannie's cold, dead hands--he really is her pride and joy. (Please do teach her your magical Malone-catching technique, though-he's very, erm, persistent at the end of the course) Nthing more photos, because monkey faces are the cutest things ever--far, far cuter than Beezer puppies. I will silently chant "omg the hair care, omg the hair care" to myself, lest I get any silly ideas about a silky playmate for Radar.
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Another agility trial today, ran one standard course and one jumpers with weaves. I planned my handling badly and we NQ'd on the standard course, but we Q'd and won jumpers! Rho was amazing and even the judge complimented him ("That is one cool dog you have there!") when we went to get our prize. Rho clocked in at 4,58m/s which according to Google is 5,01y/s. I'm so happy I'm almost euphoric. Just two short months ago I was sure we could never ever compete, let alone win. Edited for more bragging: Rho completed the run in more than 13 secs under course time and he was about 5 seconds faster than the runner-up. Rixatrix fucked around with this message at Oct 16, 2011 around 18:40 |
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Today we headed out to one of the local whippet racing clubs for the first time! This week we were just spectating: once Mouse hits 6 months we'll start introducing her to the lure (weather permitting). The weather was beautiful but I'm a dumbdumb and screwed up the settings on my camera so some of these shots looked better ~sepia~                We had a great time! notsoape fucked around with this message at Oct 16, 2011 around 16:13 |
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Rixatrix posted:Yes, please! I'm super interested, I'd love to compare the requirements you guys have to what we're training for. Sorry guys, seems my scanner is old enough that it doesn't play well with Win7. Here are crappy phone pics of the 2 judges maps, though:  
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Rixatrix posted:Another agility trial today, ran one standard course and one jumpers with weaves. I planned my handling badly and we NQ'd on the standard course, but we Q'd and won jumpers! Rho was amazing and even the judge complimented him ("That is one cool dog you have there!") when we went to get our prize. Rho clocked in at 4,58m/s which according to Google is 5,01y/s. I'm so happy I'm almost euphoric. Just two short months ago I was sure we could never ever compete, let alone win. Ah! I missed this when you posted it. Huge congrats. Rho is gonna be a freaking monster when you get him going. I'd love to see photos/video/whatever of him. Try to convince a friend to take a run on their cell phone or something the next time you're out! I'd love to see the beast in action. Notsoape, looks like your afternoon was wonderful and full of . I'm starting to develop a real sighthound crush these days, and am definitely open to one day getting a lurcher -- I'm thinking BC/Whippet, but I dunno!
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Congrats Rixatrix & Rho! Great job! I was present at a working test for retrievers on Saturday. Shot a video of a flatcoated retriever during one of the excersices. http://youtu.be/60KESevTKX8 I really love all the breed specific trials retrievers have available to them. Am really trying to figure out, if I could live with a working line golden or lab.
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Riiseli posted:Congrats Rixatrix & Rho! Great job! Oh, I love flatcoats--especially bouncy ones! Are retrievers trained mainly with electric collars in Finland/Europe as they are in North America? I am curious as my father-in-law is hoping to trial his Brittany, but is not finding any positive trainers to work with (he's pretty old school himself, actually.) Working-bred retriever? You're braver than I! And the hair, omigod the hair. But you must, and post pictures, too.
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badmomrising posted:Oh, I love flatcoats--especially bouncy ones! Are retrievers trained mainly with electric collars in Finland/Europe as they are in North America? I am curious as my father-in-law is hoping to trial his Brittany, but is not finding any positive trainers to work with (he's pretty old school himself, actually.) http://youtu.be/Yruw9pNIZrI Of course the dog must first find the birds, which is not shown on the video, then it has to point them, flush them on command and stop on command, while somebody (in highest class it has to be the handler) shoots (or triest to shoot) the bird(s). If the game is shot, they'll test retrieve on it, but if the shooter fails, the retrieve is done using cold game. There's also a required water retrieve and highest class also has a tracking portion. And in the highest class the dog must leave a point to come and gather the handler and return to the same game with the handler in tow to take a new point. And of course dogs are tested in pairs too and must honor each others points. I'd say pointing dog trials are some of the hardest ones to succeed in, because the dog has to be so versatile. I'm not really worried about getting a working line dog, if I indeed get a retriever. To really enjoy trialing you pretty much need one anyway. edit: This is pretty much how most retriever puppies first start practising: http://youtu.be/KCbKGxd-4wY Usually one will stop throwing the item pretty quick. And there is often quite a bit of carrying dummies and game on a leash too. Riiseli fucked around with this message at Oct 19, 2011 around 17:35 |
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badmomrising posted:Oh, I love flatcoats--especially bouncy ones! Are retrievers trained mainly with electric collars in Finland/Europe as they are in North America? I am curious as my father-in-law is hoping to trial his Brittany, but is not finding any positive trainers to work with (he's pretty old school himself, actually.) The vet tech that works with my vet behaviorist has a couple working GSPs that she has trained using only positive methods and shaping but I guess most of the other people at trials look at her and her dog chilling on his ducky mat funny. Training without toe pinches and electric collars certainly isn't the norm. That flatcoat is so adorably enthusiastic! I don't see nearly enough of them around here. My faculty adviser had a couple when I was in college and I always loved it when he would bring them to the field and they would spring around and bring random sticks back to us when we were trying to catch dragonflies to study. :3
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Instant Jellyfish posted:The vet tech that works with my vet behaviorist has a couple working GSPs that she has trained using only positive methods and shaping but I guess most of the other people at trials look at her and her dog chilling on his ducky mat funny. Training without toe pinches and electric collars certainly isn't the norm. The trainer I apprenticed with in Florida had a Chessie he trained for hunt tests with entirely positive methods and I know he was seen as a black sheep for it. I find it rather sad that retriever trainers are still so old school, but it also doesn't really surprise me. I had some interest in retriever trials until I found out about the training methods used. I've discovered that one of the few things I don't like about living in the middle of nowhere (Idaho) is that there isn't really any option for agility training near me. I'm still keeping an eye out, as I'd really like to start agility again with Rusty, but so far all I've found is a 6 week intro class for way too much money.
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Peer-to-Peer Nachos posted:Sorry guys, seems my scanner is old enough that it doesn't play well with Win7. Ceridwen: How about building your own equipment?
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Sorry for double posting, but here's a video from Rho's run today. We NQ'd twice, both were well deserved. Rho didn't focus well enough (see video) and I messed up my handling (see video, especially the second obstacle  )http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Qn-Ux3oU8
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