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Mr. Stay-Puft
Jul 5, 2007
I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something that could never destroy us.

The Black Stones posted:

Nope. The original's quality is pretty much on par with DVD, if not worse at points from what I remember. It'd be nice to get the original movie straight up on Blu-Ray because the CG added to 2.0 looks like poo poo and I just want the original at this point.

On the upside, the much-better-looking Japanese Blu-ray has English subtitles & dub and is "only" $65.50.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/GHOST-THE-S.../dp/B004G097OK/

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007

But it soon became quite clear that while losers flourished everywhere, winners were a rare and reticent breed with preferences for camouflage and anonymity.

Rinkles posted:

That's really unfortunate because to me 2.0 is a minor atrocity in its own right.

That quote makes it sound like the included original is even inferior to a DVD copy. Browsing Amazon, it doesn't look like there were any DVD remasters released in the West outside of the original shody Manga release. And I don't think the DVD version of 2.0 is bundled with "1.0" either.

There was a Special Edition remaster of the Manga DVD several years ago. I have it, but haven't done a side by side comparison of the two.

Robert Denby
Sep 9, 2007

Two personal bests...

"Evangelion 3.0" is coming out on Blu-Ray in Japan way earlier than anyone expected: April 24th.

Midjack posted:

There was a Special Edition remaster of the Manga DVD several years ago. I have it, but haven't done a side by side comparison of the two.
Its the exact same transfer but with higher-bitrate audio. The one thing that's always irked me with "Ghost in the Shell" on DVD/BR (apart from the awful 2.0 version), is that the old VHS and laserdiscs had the movie at about 1.66:1, but nowhere on DVD has it been presented that way.

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

casual lamer


Was Bebop actually re-released non-upscaled on BD? I haven't seen it mentioned here so I am kinda surprised seeing as people were always talking about how it's impossible and how amazing it would be...

The Black Stones
May 7, 2007

COMPUTERS!
COMPUTERS!
YAAAAAAAAY!

lordfrikk posted:

Was Bebop actually re-released non-upscaled on BD? I haven't seen it mentioned here so I am kinda surprised seeing as people were always talking about how it's impossible and how amazing it would be...

In Japan, yes. I don't understand what you mean after the question, but Cowboy Bebop was an older show that was put onto film so making a HD version (that's not an upscale) isn't impossible at all, compared to a show (for example, Full Metal Panic) that was done digitally and would have to have many scenes actually redone to be true HD.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Aim for the TOP!


I'm not sure many people know it was composted onto film. A lot of people, like hey, me! assumed since it had cg sequences and assists that those assets were probably lost / low rez and would be difficult to get an HD copy of without redoing them / upscale.

I'm glad that's not the case though. Cowboy Bebop is something people should never go "Well it doesn't look good but you gotta move past that" about

Mr. Stay-Puft
Jul 5, 2007
I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something that could never destroy us.

Any scenes with CG in them are upscaled; however, these are all pretty brief. I'd say 95% of the time it's true HD and looks fantastic.

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

casual lamer


The Black Stones posted:

In Japan, yes. I don't understand what you mean after the question, but Cowboy Bebop was an older show that was put onto film so making a HD version (that's not an upscale) isn't impossible at all, compared to a show (for example, Full Metal Panic) that was done digitally and would have to have many scenes actually redone to be true HD.

People were saying it's mainly impossible because the materials for CG scenes were lost, as Mr. Stay-Puft said, but apparently that didn't stop them and I'm glad to hear it.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Walgreens Representative


Bebop was also produced at a time when digital ink and paint was starting to become more prevalent. If you watch other animated shows at the time, you'll see them experimenting with it. For instance, King of the Hill had one episode done totally in DIP two seasons before the switch over occurred, and after that, there were a few episodes that had individual scenes done in that manner (either scenes featuring weird things done with the camera). It's quite obvious. For an example of that, see the episode where Bill flies away in a hot air balloon, and tell me which scenes were done with cel animation and which scenes were DIP.

I think there is actually one episode of Bebop that is DIP. It's the one where the comatose kid runs a TV cult. The colors look a little different, and then the credits don't have a credit for the lab, but some credit about a digital painter or something similar. So I'm guessing that episode would also be an upscale too, unless they also ended up compositing that one onto film.

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Mr. Stay-Puft
Jul 5, 2007
I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something that could never destroy us.

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