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BurritoJustice posted:1gnoirents asked the first question as Nvidia cards support something called Lightboost which is a display-hack thing that makes motion substantially smoother, it is badass but finicky to get going. Most monitors (like that ASUS from earlier) need stuffing around to get it working, the BenQ Z series stuff (like the one that you linked) and the ASUS RoG Swift have it built in. Thanks for adding, I can't believe I forgot to explain why.
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Well, I just received the Samsung U28D590 and eagerly plugged it into my 27-inch iMac andddd....nothing. The monitor is detected in Mac OS (with the incorrect max resolution being a paltry 1080P) but no picture is displayed. DOA or a different issue? Edit: Tried it on another 27-inch iMac, this time with Thunderbolt ports instead of mini-display ports and it worked! However, still the same problem of the computer not detecting the UHD resolution and still limits it to 1080P. McDeth fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Aug 25, 2014 |
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McDeth posted:Well, I just received the Samsung U28D590 and eagerly plugged it into my 27-inch iMac andddd....nothing.  I have had a lot of trouble with external monitors and Apple edit: Out of morbid curiosity I looked into it briefly. It appears it does just plug and play for some, while being awful for others. I'm assuming it's just a hardware thing at that point. Also came across this, if its true/applicable quote:I definitely do get hiDPI support on the Samsung monitor, with 10.9.3. With 10.9.2, I could only run it in normal resolutions (but admittedly all the way up to 3840x2160). 10.9.3 also offers a color management profile for the monitor, which dramatically improves the default color fidelity. 1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Aug 25, 2014 |
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Aug 25, 2014 19:51
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Yup, as outlined belowquote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface) GG Apple.
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I've never gamed on a 120/144 Hz monitor before and I mostly use an IPS monitor. Provided you have the proper hardware, does having a higher refresh rate (above 60Hz) really make that much of a difference in games? Is stuff like this a valid test? http://youtu.be/a2IF9ZPwgDM
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's slightly less than 3 years old, so I don't think there's any kind of warranty left to cover that issue, though I'm happy to be proven wrong. (Bought in Denmark.)[/sub] All these monitors have 3-year on site advanced swap next day warranties. Call Dell. (Make sure you have the original box, they may ask for the original order number, which is usually on the box). Serial number + Dell order number will get your problem solved fast. (Serial number is on a pull out plastic card on the left of the monitor behind the USB ports, also on the box. The card will also have the date it was made, so you don't need to guess how old it is). You would be dumb to try to fix it if it is in warranty, when you could easily get a new one delivered next day... (I know it works like this, no problem, because I had a U2410 replaced and got a brand new one from Dell next day without even sending mine back. They collected my old one after. Wasn't a standby issue, I managed to blow a few of the backlight inverters, so it was dim. Oops!) HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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the1onewolf posted:I've never gamed on a 120/144 Hz monitor before and I mostly use an IPS monitor. Provided you have the proper hardware, does having a higher refresh rate (above 60Hz) really make that much of a difference in games? This is a very subjective question that doesn't have a clearly defined answer. It falls under the same category as asking whether you should get a new mouse or keyboard: it could make a huge difference, but requires you to be already playing at a level where you're becoming constrained by your hardware. And there's no way to know for certain if you're hardware-constrained without getting new hardware. Are you a high-level competitive player with thousands of hours clocked and looking to up your game? Then yeah, definitely consider the high refresh monitors. Casual player with just a couple hours per day at most? You'd probably enjoy the better colors of the IPS panel more. For what it's worth, I believe that a higher refresh rate mainly helps with tracking (aiming) and to a lesser extent, reaction time. It's up to you to evaluate if that's worth the price of an upgrade.
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It's also a huge boost to the immersion factor. I had triple 120's when I was getting really into gaming and I still miss the smoothness of it. I'm not competitive and I could INSTANTLY tell if my monitors were in 120hz or 60hz. It's really something else to game on 120hz. I don't like the dismissive attitude that people have about high refresh monitors, either waving away the benefits as marginal or even being completely misinformed ("the human eye can't SEE 120hz!"). Is 120hz going to make you a better player? Probabaly not as much as practice. It will, however, be a very unique and is a potentially intoxicating sensation.
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Wasabi the J posted:It's also a huge boost to the immersion factor. I had triple 120's when I was getting really into gaming and I still miss the smoothness of it. I'm not competitive and I could INSTANTLY tell if my monitors were in 120hz or 60hz. To build on this, you don't NEED to drive 120 fps to make a 120hz monitor worth it. I am definitely underpowered for that (using a 7870) and games are still crazy smooth.
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McDeth posted:Yup, as outlined below
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Captain Yossarian posted:To build on this, you don't NEED to drive 120 fps to make a 120hz monitor worth it. I am definitely underpowered for that (using a 7870) and games are still crazy smooth. I get annoyed as gently caress if I'm not at a solid fps with the lowest variance possible. I.e. underpowered for the refresh is simply not for me. I actually choose to cap fps even though I have a 96+ refresh right now to increase playability. Also its kind of a magic screen tearing fix as well To each their own is what I'm getting at haha
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HalloKitty posted:All these monitors have 3-year on site advanced swap next day warranties. HalloKitty posted:Call Dell. (Make sure you have the original box, they may ask for the original order number, which is usually on the box). Serial number + Dell order number will get your problem solved fast. (Serial number is on a pull out plastic card on the left of the monitor behind the USB ports, also on the box. The card will also have the date it was made, so you don't need to guess how old it is).
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japtor posted:So yeah you got a 4K display for a machine that can't support it. Well you might be able to get it to work at 4K, but only at 30hz. My wild guess is that you'll have to tweak some setting on the display for that. Nah, the maximum output resolution on the 27-iMac's are just too low to support full 4k+QHD (Remember it already has a 27-inch screen to draw on top of the 4k display). So it looks like I'm limited to a maximum a non-Dell monitor with a maximum WQHD resolution. Any thoughts on these two? http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS27A850TS/ZA http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS32D85KTSR/ZA On another note, I took the 4K Samsung display home and plugged it into my gaming rig. Unf. Knowing how high of a resolution 4K actually is does little to prepare you for the actual experience of 4K. I was also surprised at how well the TN panel looks. I don't have IPS panels at home, so it was still an improvement over my older displays.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Are you certain this is true for all countries? I've had no luck trying to find this warranty on the Danish Dell site, and you'd think that would be something they wouldn't keep hidden? Ah, well, I did this in the UK, not in Denmark, so I can't help exactly with that (although in an unrelated matter, I am moving to Denmark soon). I didn't buy mine from Dell directly either, but there will be an order number on the box that relates to the reseller ordering the monitor from Dell. I just remember that being helpful. I would just try calling and be ready with information you do have. Edit: yes, Denmark too. For example, here's the page for the newer version, the U2412. "Standardservicesupport: 3 års avanceret udskiftningsservice og Premium Panel-garanti" HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Goddamnit Asus quit being a cocktease and tell us when the ROG Swift is coming out 
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On the topic of Asus and 120+ refresh rates, does anyone have any experience with Asus VG248QE or the VG278HE? I'm not looking to buy for a bit longer, but those seem to be one of the higher rated monitors for gaming on a high refresh rate.
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ROG swift is already out - it's just sold out everywhere for now.
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the1onewolf posted:ROG swift is already out - it's just sold out everywhere for now. Oh, great. Couldn't find it on amazon or anything
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Falcon2001 posted:Oh, great. Couldn't find it on amazon or anything Isn't the Swift a TN panel? Have you considered getting one of those Korean monitors and trying to run those faster?
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Coredump posted:Isn't the Swift a TN panel? Have you considered getting one of those Korean monitors and trying to run those faster? g sync is going to trump the poo poo out of it though. Assuming thats why he wants it of course. From all accounts its the "best" kind of TN possible and mostly suffers from TN angle issues and while I haven't seen it yet I'm certain I'd put up with it
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1gnoirents posted:I get annoyed as gently caress if I'm not at a solid fps with the lowest variance possible. I.e. underpowered for the refresh is simply not for me. I actually choose to cap fps even though I have a 96+ refresh right now to increase playability. Also its kind of a magic screen tearing fix as well It doesn't hurt that the most 'graphically intense' game i've played lately is Dark Souls 2, so it's pretty darn easy to maintain solid fps 
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Captain Yossarian posted:It doesn't hurt that the most 'graphically intense' game i've played lately is Dark Souls 2, so it's pretty darn easy to maintain solid fps Oh I thought you meant you were underpowered in the sense you're moving all over the place. If you can do 120 fps, 120hz monitors are sweet. I made these a while ago for something else but this is technically 99 fps  It blows. But I could honestly say I got 99 fps, which I might use to justify buying a 120hz monitor. I would be disappointed. The 1% time there isn't even very relevant, its the fact it wildy varies between ~60-120 fps constantly. In contrast with this  Which initially looks somewhat similar but it is very different. The singles that drop way down low are virtually undetectable and its not going back and forth in an extreme manner. This is essentially smooth gameplay. In this case it's because I capped it at 60, but if it looked like that at 120 fps then I'd definitely benefit and be happy with a 120hz monitor. Another example, uncapped  Technically 89 fps, in reality: garbage Anyways, 120hz is great if you can do it. It's not if you don't. I'm not directing this at you or really to most people here, this is more of a general public perception of 120hz "problem"
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What would be the current recommendation for a 120Hz/ monitor? Newegg doesn't seem to actually stock any 120Hz monitors, which seems strange to me. What's going on here?
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icantfindaname posted:What would be the current recommendation for a 120Hz/ BenQ, then Asus
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So if I bought a 1440 monitor and hooked up something like a PlayStation TV to it, would it look terrible like watching an SD show on an HDTV?
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CubanMissile posted:So if I bought a 1440 monitor and hooked up something like a PlayStation TV to it, would it look terrible like watching an SD show on an HDTV? Depends. Some of those Korean panels don't have a scaler in them, so it wouldn't see the signal at all. If the display has a scaler then it depends on what the resolution being fed in is. 720p would look fine as it fits evenly into 1440p. However, 1080p would be a bit blurry because the scaler has to fit the uneven resolution onto the screen.
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I was thinking an Asus PB278Q. An ROG Swift would be cool, but way overkill for the amount if PC gaming I actually do.
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Hey all, looking for a 1080p 27+inch monitor for gaming. I like to game in an old lazyboy chair, to try to recreate the couch feel of my console glory days. I am currently rockin a Dell Ultrasharp 2331H that I bought on recommendation 3-4 years ago. Cons: text is too small to read, need a bigger screen with same resolution (because gamers like irritatingly small fonts, higher resolution means no improvement in text size), I notice significant ghosting during camera movement in most games (mount and blade especially). Can I correct these issues by movie to a BenQ. Note I am still using Radeon 6900 series with 2Gigs, overclocked and flashed to work like its more expensive counterpart. So my card is not top of the line. Still I am playing older games for the most part (backlog) http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_1195_700_1104&item_id=066723 Thats the best I can come up with. I'm in Canada. Please guide me oh wise ones, because I can't get the search function of these forums to work for poo poo.
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Is the difference between 2ms and 5ms response times actually noticeable? I play a lot of games, but I'd like an IPS display for photography. I'd be upgrading from a Dell 2005FPW, which has a 12ms response time.
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ijyt posted:Is the difference between 2ms and 5ms response times actually noticeable? I play a lot of games, but I'd like an IPS display for photography. I'd be upgrading from a Dell 2005FPW, which has a 12ms response time.
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1gnoirents posted:g sync is going to trump the poo poo out of it though. Assuming thats why he wants it of course. From all accounts its the "best" kind of TN possible and mostly suffers from TN angle issues and while I haven't seen it yet I'm certain I'd put up with it Yeah, basically it's a 27" 2560x1440-res G-Sync monitor and I'm exactly the sort of gigantic manchild this monitor is geared towards. Mostly because screen tearing irritates the poo poo out of me so I couldn't really do 120hz before.
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DrDork posted:No. In fact, the difference between 2ms and 12ms is also "no." As noted in the OP, response times are basically made up mythical numbers that have no direct correlation to anything in this here physical world. Ignore them, and if you're really concerned about the gaming performance of a particular monitor, look up a review of it on somewhere like TFT Central where they actually test them for input lag and latency. Agh, must have missed it - sorry! Not heard of TFT Central before so thanks for the heads up.
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Looks like the 21:9 WQHD Dell 34" (U3415W) is going to be curved, and available starting in December. I'm starting to come around on the idea of 21:9 monitors (at least when they have decent vertical resolution), and the LG was very tempting, so definitely keeping an eye on this when it gets released.
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I'm thinking about replacing my aging Dell ST2410b with a dual monitor setup. I'm intrigued by all of the high-refresh rate stuff going on. I'm a bit budget conscious but would rather not buy too cheap and regret it. I've seen these two monitors mentioned at various places and they've caught my eye. BenQ XL2411Z 24" http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2411Z-24-Inch-LED-Monitor/dp/B00ITORITU/ ASUS VG248QE 24" http://www.amazon.com/VG248QE-24-inch-LED-lit-Monitor-response/dp/B00B2HH7G0/ Mostly it gets used for development, interwebbing, occasional art and photos, etc. Pretty standard goony stuff. I play some games but that's not a huge deal. If I could improve that experience though, why not? To that end, it looks like I can do lightboost if I upgrade my video card to a nvidia and get either of these monitors, and if they ever sell g-sync diy kits, I maybe able to install one of those in the Asus monitors. Could I do something similar with a radeon and these? I'm considering a couple different video cards and lightboost may end up being the deciding factor 
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dissss posted:Are you willing to sacrifice the other stuff for smoother games? Because those are TN panels 'Yes'. I've never owned anything but, and don't even know what I'm missing. Plus, the nice IPS panels seemed more expensive. I was hoping to have matching monitors for mostly aesthetic reasons but it occured to me that mixing and matching may not be the worst thing ever. Is that a thing? EDIT: I guess the U2414H is in the same ballpark price-wise. I like my current Dell, would this be a decent IPS option? The bezel is sexy http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2414H-1080p-Monitor/dp/B00H4MJ1M0/  I think part of the problem is I don't know how nice the >60Hz resolution actually is because I've never seen it in person. Delta-Wye fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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Delta-Wye posted:I think part of the problem is I don't know how nice the >60Hz resolution actually is because I've never seen it in person. The U2414H is, indeed, a sexy monitor, and a very good overall option. Note that you can get decent 24" IPS monitors for <$150 on sale on a regular basis, so "too expensive" shouldn't be an issue. As a third option, may I recommend you consider a 27" 1440p XRite or QNix from eBay? Noticeably bigger, <$300 most days, and is both IPS and overclockable to 80-100Hz (luck dependent). You run the risk of dead pixels, but at that resolution they're hard to notice. The bezels are ugly, but $20 and some effort can fix that. Something to consider.
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I ordered a U2713 yesterday from Amazon, with Saturday delivery so I could work on it today... And it came with a horizontal crack directly in the middle of the screen. It was still usable, but really sucks. Amazon already shipped out a replacement, but it won't get here until Tuesday. 
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What's a good price for the U2312HM? There's some on Amazon for 248, but if I could get it for cheaper I'd be willing to wait. There's also the Dell U2412HM for sale for the same price but I'd like to be able to support my PS3 without stretching, which the OP said was an issue.
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