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SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

"... Vanessa? Let's keep this between us."
"My lips are sealed, milady."




"L'Arachide flies agaaaiiiin!"

So does anyone here have experience with getting a PS3 to play nicely with a U2410? I picked up the 2410 for the huge variety of input options (this thing is essentially going to perform double duty as a TV/console display in addition to a computer monitor) and I adore it so far, but for some reason my PS3 slim doesn't want to seem to display above 480p on it. It's connected via HDMI, for the record. (And god I love that it can output sound to the soundbar right there it is awesome )

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SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

"... Vanessa? Let's keep this between us."
"My lips are sealed, milady."




"L'Arachide flies agaaaiiiin!"

Well, it's a brand new HDMI cable so I hope it isn't damaged and it's from people I trust so I don't think it's a bum cable.

Plus, this is, like, trying to up the display resolution in the friggin main menu; I don't think HDCP should matter there, should it?

I may try bumming around for another cable, though. Is there anything else that can make the PS3 trip up, though? Color modes or wide modes, maybe?

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

"... Vanessa? Let's keep this between us."
"My lips are sealed, milady."




"L'Arachide flies agaaaiiiin!"

Alright, goonmind, got another somewhat esoteric peripheral question for you lot. Well, a pair, really, that are sort of related.

Firstly: does anyone know if the U2410 can receive audio information from its DVI-D ports? Basically, if I plug in an HDMI device via an HDMI-DVI converter plug thingie, would I get audio to the soundbar like I do when just plugging in to the HDMI port, or would it be video-only?

Secondly, and especially if the answer to the above is negative: does anyone have a recommendation for a good HDMI switch? The essential problem is that I picked up an XBOX360 recently, and I'd like to plug it into my monitor the same way I have with my PS3, since I've been very happy with how that's worked out. Problem is, naturally, the 2410 only has one HDMI input. So does the 2711, for that matter, and throwing down the money for a 3011 isn't quite an option for various reasons

So what I need is some kind of HDMI switch, one that'll take multiple HDMI ins, has a single HDMI out that will feed into the monitor and let me switch between input sources as needed. I can also just swap wires, sure, but that'll get really annoying with reaching behind the monitor every time I want to swap consoles (and plus I'd be worried about wear-and-tear on the plugs long term). Problem: the reviews for the switches on Newegg are kind of scattershot and all over the place and I don't really see any brands I recognize and trust, and the HDMI switch Best Buy was offering was, of course, intolerably expensive and is probably a piece of poo poo anyway.

So, anyone have advice on this? I really don't know where to start shopping or who to trust on this sort of thing.

EDITRANT: You know, that is the one real complaint I have about the Ultrasharps: Dell went a long way to basically making them TVs already, especially if you have a soundbar, so would it have killed them to include the RCA audio input jacks to go along with the Component and Composite video inputs

(also who the christ would even use composite on a loving Ultrasharp I mean goddam)

SpaceDrake fucked around with this message at Apr 8, 2011 around 16:13

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

"... Vanessa? Let's keep this between us."
"My lips are sealed, milady."




"L'Arachide flies agaaaiiiin!"

Factory Factory posted:

Nope, but it can via DisplayPort.

So that'd be an HDMI-to-Displayport coverter plug like this here thing, and I'd be in business, sound and all?

quote:

I haven't used any, but MonoPrice does really well selling generic cables and hardware, so you might check their offerings out. For example, this 4-to-1 HDMI 1.3b BluRay 3D compliant bad boy for $30

Yeah, I knew about Monoprice, I just wasn't sure who to shop for, or if there were any brands to explicitly avoid, etc. If I can get audio input off of the Displayport plug with a bit of HDMI-to-Dport chicanery, though, it's all a bit of a moot point anyway

quote:

I take it you've never wanted to play your NES picture-in-picture along with the LP playing off your PC

Wait, it can do multi-displays like that? Like an overlay? Holy poo poo I sure didn't see THAT function on the menu bar! I may need to look into that!

(My complaint about the loving RCA-compatible audio in-jacks stands though, Delllllll )

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

"... Vanessa? Let's keep this between us."
"My lips are sealed, milady."




"L'Arachide flies agaaaiiiin!"

Completely excellent, thank you gentlemen. I'll probably just run out and see if my local reasonably-priced computer/AV shop has a converter plug available since I'm a babby who doesn't like waiting for shipping That's one attractive price on Monoprice, though.

Factory Factory posted:

As for the picture-in-picture, word of note: you can only have a single TMDS-signalled display as one of those PIP options. That means you can only use one of the following at once: DVI1, DVI2, or HDMI.

I figured it'd be as such, I'd only want to have the NES running alongside the PC for example, so that's no problem. Now I just need to find a AC adapter with a plug that'll actually fit into my old Ninty

Anyway, thanks gents, this helps tremendously.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

"... Vanessa? Let's keep this between us."
"My lips are sealed, milady."




"L'Arachide flies agaaaiiiin!"

HE ON THE TOILET posted:

e: Another question I have is if there's any benefit to HDMI over DVI, aside from having audio included in the HDMI pipeline.

DrDork posted:

Absolutely none. They are literally the same video signal, just with different plugs on the ends. Which is why the adapters from one to another are like $1.

It's also worth noting that DisplayPort operates exactly like HDMI does, audio pipeline and all. The two are virtually singal-compatible, even.

All of this being said, it's worth noting that for some applications (like plugging a console or a cable/satellite box in to a monitor) the audio portion of the HDMI signal is goddamned handy, since it can basically turn your monitor into a TV for many functions. A Dell Ultrasharp with a soundbar is p. much a television, good sound quality and all, when you plug devices into the HDMI and DisplayPort ports; the only thing it lacks is RCA jacks for the audio portion of composite/component A/V input, which remains a personal bugbear of mine. If you're after just video, though, DVI is exactly the same as HDMI.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

"... Vanessa? Let's keep this between us."
"My lips are sealed, milady."




"L'Arachide flies agaaaiiiin!"

Doublepostin'~, but there is something from last page I wanted to get a word in on.

Rookersh posted:

I don't really care about size or anything here, my main focus is on a good monitor I can use for gaming ( but I don't need a monitor built for gaming, just one that can be used for it without strain. ), doesn't get black bars on ports, and will last me a year or so. From what I gathered in the OP, that means 23/24"? If I'm wrong, correct away and give me some better options here, I'll be happy to know I'm totally wrong.

I feel the need to hammer home what Movax said: a monitor isn't like a video card or something. Approach buying a monitor like buying a television - ideally, it's an investment that should last you a decade or more without issue. That's why I invested in an Ultrasharp, I intend on using this into the 2020s unless we all become energy beings or the world blows up before then or whatever. That's also why it can be worth it to sink a bit more than $200 into this, especially for a primary monitor for your recreational desktop - you are going to be using this thing a lot, so it's worth getting an item of quality.

The ASUS is probably what you're after of the two you listed, but you may want to think hard about exactly what you want out of a monitor and how long you're going to use it. A good monitor will last you a dog's age, so it can be worth it to throw down the extra money for something nice.

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SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

"... Vanessa? Let's keep this between us."
"My lips are sealed, milady."




"L'Arachide flies agaaaiiiin!"

So, question. I recently confused VGA and DVI single-link in another thread in terms of "limits" (I thought it was D-Sub VGA that couldn't go above 1920x1200, but I was thinking of DVI-D-S)... but at the same time, I swear to God I've seen information elsewhere about VGA having an effective upper limit to the resolution it can carry. It is, after all, a twenty-four-goddamn-year-old connector type that was originally designed to cap out at around, oh, 640x480 with eight-bit color. I mean, I know it's analog and so it comes with all the issues of analog cabling, but I could've sworn I read about VGA d-sub having an upper bandwidth limit that makes it sub-optimal, at least, for resolutions of 1080p or higher, and that's a large part of the reason you never find it (or DVI-S for that matter) on cards anymore.

Am I remembering something that is an actual thing, or am I just smoking something?

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