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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

GodlessCommie posted:

Moonraker?
You Only Live Twice. Moonraker was the space shuttle one.

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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
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/\ /\ /\
Cambodia.

content:
The Clash's elegy for Sean Flynn

Larry Burrows took some great Airpower pictures for Life, too.


102s


Puff Taken in 1966, so Spooky.


Skyraider


Skyraider


Skyraiders are awesome.

\/ \/ \/


http://www.amazon.com/Larry-Burrows-Vietnam/dp/037541102X

joat mon fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Oct 21, 2011

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
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Psion posted:

You know, this has been bothering me for a while, and really started bothering me when I was flying one in Ace Combat a lot (shut up :mad: )

What is in the enormous penis long, hard shaft between the engines on every Flanker? Or the super huge one in the Su-34? I've heard anything from RWR to a full-up rear facing radar set and nobody seems to know for sure. Except, presumably, Sukhoi, but seriously. You'd think a huge dick pointing out the back of an aircraft would get more attention on the internet where these things are the foundation of stupid epeen debates on Youtube over which aircraft is better than which. All of one article I can find on the internet discusses it and calls it a tail stinger, for what that's worth, but no details on what's in the thing.



Seriously. Look at the size of that thing.

It's an ovipositor. Where do you think Su-31s come from?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

spankmeister posted:

Is that some kind of JATO under there?
RATOs. The F-84 used the launch rocket (55,000 lbs thrust) for the Matador cruise missile, the F-100 used one that developed 130,000 lbs thrust.

Whoforthenwhat posted:

I've always wondered, what sort of G forces would the pilot undergo with such an aggressive form of taking off? Or would this design work similar to a VTOL and take off, hover (sort of) then slowly increase in acceleration?

The F-100 took off at about 4G. One of the F-104 test pilots said it was smoother than a catapult launch.
http://www.vectorsite.net/avzel.html

The F-84s were part of a Zero Length Launch / Mat Landing program.
Yes, the aircraft was supposed to land, gear up, with arrestor hook, on a 80ft by 800ft by 3 foot inflatable mat. The stop was about 5 1/2G. Three tries resulted in one successful landing.



http://www.war-eagles-air-museum.com/newsletters/weam_newsletter_2008-3.pdf

joat mon fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Feb 8, 2012

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
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Originally, it was the Royal Navy's idea for using jets on carriers immediately post WWII.
http://www.usnwc.edu/getattachment/afe51317-dabb-4379-b802-79eb1d9815fc/The-Development-of-the-Angled-Deck-Aircraft-Carrie (pages 5-7)

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Armyman25 posted:

Interesting:











The M-50 was real, but didn't made it onto production.
It was never nuclear. The rest of the story

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Raw_Beef posted:

ill bet the ruskie non-nuke-nuke-bomber timelined up with the flying reactor XB36 project.

:ussr:

The made-up nuclear M-50 (Dec. 1958) came out right after Sputnik (Oct. 1958), in an attempt to scare up some re-invigoration of the U.S. nuclear bomber program (and thus GE's nuclear jet engine program) which was languishing because clearer (but more boring) heads were prevailing. (radiation, radioactive jet exhaust, outpaced by ICBM technology, etc.)
However, the Russians gamely played along too, flying a nuclear reactor in a Tu-95 in 1961. (the B-36 with the reactor flew from 1955 to 1957) The radiation killed all but three members of the two aircrews for the Tu-95LAL.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Throatwarbler posted:

How did they figure this was a nuclear powered aircraft when it clearly has jet engines? Or is that what nuclear aircraft engines look like?
I don't think anybody in the know believed the M-50 was nuclear powered.

But here's a GE J-47, used by lots of jets in the 50s.





note the laterally running combustion chambers


But the combustion chambers on this pair of J-47s seem to run around the engine,
as if the heated air/combustion part of the process could come in from somewhere external to the engine - like a turbocharger or something...



grover posted:

Nuclear jet engines work on the same general principal as fuel-burning jet engines, but use high-temperature heat exchangers to cause thermal expansion instead of combustion. So, externally, they end up looking quite similar.



Or something.


Megatron these engines could burn traditional jet fuel for takeoff and landing and switch to nuclear (routing the incoming compressed air up into and through the core and back down into the engine) to loiter.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
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Nebakenezzer posted:

OK, I understand this, but...how?



You can see the hemispherical liner ('shaped' bit) in image 3.

http://www.feainformation.com/avilib/67.avi

as the liner gets squished at about 30 million psi, it shoots out as a long, thin jet (still solid) with the tip going about Mach 25. At that pressure and velocity, it just pushes the target material aside.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

VikingSkull posted:

Wasn't there also some idiotic idea to merge France into the UK that England basically laughed at?

If you're talking about 1940, it was the British who proposed union, and the French (at least Petain and Co.) who laughed at the idea.

e: link

joat mon fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 15, 2012

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

VikingSkull posted:

I had no idea that a rifle round could penetrate the earlier LAV's. Jesus Christ, that wasn't acceptable 40 years ago.

M113s are the same, AAV7s have a little less.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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2ndclasscitizen posted:

Needs more guns calibers.

(plus she's got two cheek .50s on the right side)
(also a B-26)

\/\/\/\/
Yeah, I meant B-25, like the one MagnumHB posted, as opposed to the A-26 at Ellsworth, which was different from the B-26, except after 1948, when it became the same.

joat mon fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 9, 2012

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
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Cyrano4747 posted:

Sweet. C&R eligible.

Technically NRHP and NHPA eligible too, which means NEPA analysis, if you wanted to slow down anything bad from happening to them.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
More
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn6N2iV2_os

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/296306.pdf pages 48-59

http://northgeorgiamountainramblings.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/when-the-cold-war-came-to-dawsonville/

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread230310/pg13
"Inside Dawson Forest; A History of the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory" is about halfway down.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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I am the captain of my tub.

Cyrano4747 posted:

Pretty much this. I wall'o'texted on this a while back, but the tl;dr is that the punchline bit of the dog anecdote fits into a whole pattern of military myths where the somehow "backwards" nation or military gets too clever for their own good and ends up hurting themselves.

Basically any time that you can imagine a xenophobic, racist, hyper-patriotic shithead chuckling about "those people" when hearing the story you can assume it's either a totally unfounded myth or distorted in a really significant way.

So this is fake?

there's always something weirder and more true.

Cyrano: Deep breath. I am saying this in a zero-effort post with a dash of hyperbole.

joat mon fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Sep 3, 2012

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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Psion posted:

also, best prop plane or best prop plane?

Vought F4U-1D Corsair - 02 by notpsion, on Flickr

Either it or the Lysander to its 1 or 2 o'clock.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Which we copied from the British.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Lu6LEQ0zo

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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PhotoKirk posted:

The Daily Mail has a photo essay about Russia's junkyard, er, air museum at Ulyanovsk.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-rust-away.html

I'd like to see the photos without the lovely sepia treatment.


http://englishrussia.com/2011/11/04/the-museum-of-civil-aviation-in-ulyanovsk/

http://eggshelluk.smugmug.com/MilitaryAircraft/Overseas-Museums/Museum-of-Civil-Aviation/20940345_FR5nxw#!i=1663537510&k=ZbLN9VD

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Snowdens Secret posted:

I suppose it eventually will allow distinction between (mostly) remote-control and autonomous craft?

Godholio posted:

That's pretty much everyone's take on it. Let them feel special with a unique medal, but put it at an appropriate level.

So who gets the medal for autonomous craft?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

But the rule still holds.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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grover posted:

Spoilers, geez! F-35 problems are really nothing new, and honestly pretty good as far as aircraft development programs go; the only thing that is new is the speed at which news about it flows. I think we'd lost like 37 F-14s (e: yeah, 37) to crashes by this point it it's development and god knows how many Harriers (e: 42) and Harrier pilots (e: 11 Americans, dunno how many British).

What definition are you using for "this point in its development"?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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mlmp08 posted:

Well, when you compare the F-35 with a fighter so famous for a deadly flaw that an aviator death due to a design flaw was a key plot point in a naval aviation propaganda film and an aircraft that I'm not sure wasn't designed by people who secretly just wanted to see Marine aviators die, it looks great!

Don't forget that 'at that point in their development' the F-14 and AV-8 had been in the fleet for six years, not six months.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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I am the captain of my tub.

Zhanism posted:

I had thought the Super Bug was deliberately designed larger so that I had longer legs than the older F-18s? I assume it can't match what the F-14 had but it was a big improvement over the A/B/C/D models no?

Combat range for both flavors of F-18 is about 400 nm, about 500 for the F-14.
I though the legs problem for the fleet was that as refuelers, F-18's have really short legs compared to the S-3 Viking.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
Frustration with the institutional retardation -- 40%
hardships (deployments etc) of military life? -- 45%
Better paying positions in the civilian sector? -- 15% (not counting the folks whose plan from the beginning is to get trained/experienced in a viable MOS and get out after a tour or two)

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Using lasers to "dazzle" wasn't / isn't illegal. Using laser weapons specifically designed ... to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision is illegal goes against additions to the Geneva Conventions.

quote:

Article 1
It is prohibited to employ laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or
as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to
the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices. The High Contracting Parties shall
not transfer such weapons to any State or non-State entity.
Article 2
In the employment of laser systems, the High Contracting Parties shall take all feasible
precautions to avoid the incidence of permanent blindness to unenhanced vision. Such
precautions shall include training of their armed forces and other practical measures.
Article 3
Blinding as an incidental or collateral effect of the legitimate military employment of laser
systems, including laser systems used against optical equipment, is not covered by the
prohibition of this Protocol.
Article 4
For the purpose of this protocol "permanent blindness" means irreversible and uncorrectable
loss of vision which is seriously disabling with no prospect of recovery. Serious disability is
equivalent to visual acuity of less than 20/200 Snellen measured using both eyes.

tl;dr: So long as you don't explicit say, "we're using these lasers with the specific intent to cause permanent blindness" (and are the victor) go nuts with lasers.

VVVV
e: There are all sorts of effective weapons that aren't used because of the 1907 Hague Conventions, which banned "arms, projectiles, or material calculated to cause unnecessary suffering." By the mid 1970s, people looking at whether lasers caused unnecessary suffering. The thinking was along the lines of, "if you get shot, you probably won't die, and can heal. If you get blinded by a laser, it's going to be permanent no matter what medical care you get."

joat mon fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Aug 1, 2013

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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I am the captain of my tub.

LP97S posted:

The flying boardwalk t-shirt.

I was thinking flying lapel flag pin.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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The Sea Sitter:


An amphibian 20% larger than the Spruce Goose, with 40% greater payload than the An-225.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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Smiling Jack posted:

Oh my god look at how loving wrong you are.

http://youtu.be/_MCbTvoNrAg

And if you favor the depressing over the frightening,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9aHT-IlkHo

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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Thwomp posted:

Imagine what the disaster would look like had we gotten the X-32 instead.



It's Jabberjaw!

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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fuf posted:

When people say a warhead is "100 times more powerful than the one dropped on hiroshima!!!" does that mean it would cause 100 times more destruction? I remember something about how it doesn't work like that and that the two things don't scale up in proportion. I want to use the word logarithmic but I am not so good with the mathematics.

If say a 2mt warhead is not actually twice as destructive as a 1mt warhead, then how much more destructive is it roughly? Is destruction measured in terms of blast radius?

The cube root of the yield difference is the increase in the blast radius.

The cube root of 100 (2MT/20KT) is 4.6 - so for a 15 psi overpressure, about 4000m vs 900m (air burst)

The cube root of 2 (2MT/1MT) is 1.26 - so for a 15 psi overpressure, about 4000m vs 3200m (air burst)

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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Koesj posted:

How does the other half of the bomb's effects (several kinds of radiation) scale though?

I don't know the formulas, but here are some tables:





as Snowdens Secret said, these are approximations based on lots of variables.

e:
Blast/shockwave tables



joat mon fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Sep 11, 2013

joat mon
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fuf posted:

More likely: people get promoted until they reach the level where they're incompetent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

Not applicable, because the Peter Principle theory assumes a meritocratic selection process.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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SyHopeful posted:

Forget that, I wanna know what nuke-worthy high value target sits at the borders of Washington, Idaho, and Canada.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_Dam

(Ironically, part of The Postman was filmed at the dam)

VVVV
I bow to your superior knowledge of Kevin Costner's oeuvre.

joat mon fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Oct 2, 2013

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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PCjr sidecar posted:

That map looks like it was put together as an argument for countervalue targeting vs. counterforce. It's post cold war, also; there are a number of bases omitted that would have been targeted in the cold war that are closed now.

See FEMA 196, which http://www.armageddononline.org/PDF/General%20Survival/Risks%20&%20hazards%20-%20A%20State%20by%20State%20Guide%20-%20FEMA196.pdf ; I think this has been posted before.

Page 14/15's pretty sobering, and it has more accurate state-by-state target information circa 1990.

Here's the source document for the map:
Projected US Casualties and Destruction of US Medical Services From Attacks by Russian Nuclear Forces (2002)

And the target list:

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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Mortabis, 100 years ago posted:

I know this is a joke but Jesus, it's the Western United States. You have millions and millions of square miles of loving nothing. Just put all your trash in a big heap out back. I hope they don't actually bother to fly that stuff out.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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Thief posted:



I hope this is real. :allears:

I think so.
http://www.gloswielkopolski.pl/arty...aleria-material

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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MrYenko posted:

That cat officer hosed up on his timing, there...

Is the A-10 porn related to any news announcement? I know upgraded engines were originally on deck for the Charlie upgrade, and got axed. Last I heard, the USAF was dangling retirement to get Congress to send LockMart more dump trucks full of money.

This was all I could find, plus some congressfolks have introduced a bill to require keeping the A-10 until there are enough F-35s to replace them.

e: the bill is an amendment to the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act:

[quote]
SEC. 135. LIMITATION ON RETIREMENT OF A-10 AIRCRAFT.

(a) Limitation.--None of the funds authorized to be
appropriated or otherwise made available for the Department
of Defense may be obligated or expended to retire, prepare to
retire, or place in storage any A-10 aircraft until each of
the following:
(1) The Secretary of the Air Force certifies to the
congressional defense committees each of the following:
(A) That the F-35A aircraft has achieved full operational
capability.
(B) That the F-35A aircraft has achieved Block 4A
capabilities, including--
(i) an enhanced electronic warfare capability that will
allow the F-35A aircraft to counter emerging threats in a
close air support (CAS) environment; and
(ii) a GBU-53 Small Diameter Bomb version II or equivalent
weapon operational capability.
(C) That a number of F-35A aircraft exists in the Air Force
inventory in sufficient quantity to replace the A-10 aircraft
being retired in order to meet close air support capability
requirements of the combatant commands.
(2) The Comptroller General of the United States submits to
the congressional defense committees a report setting forth
the following:
(A) An assessment whether each certification under
paragraph (1) is comprehensive, fully supported, and
sufficiently detailed.
(B) An identification of any shortcomings, limitations, or
other reportable matters that affect the quality or findings
of any certification under paragraph (1).
(b) Deadline for Submittal of Comptroller General Report.--
The report of the Comptroller General under paragraph (2) of
subsection (a) shall be submitted not later than 90 days
after the date of the submittal of the certification referred
to in paragraph (1) of that subsection.
[quote]

joat mon fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Nov 27, 2013

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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

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Oxford Comma posted:

Isn't it time we just roll the Marines into the US Army? Call it the First Amphibious Division or something? The days of needing a special branch to board French/British/Barbary corsairs has long since passed.

Don't forget the Air Force Army Air Corps.

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