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Jan 17, 2010


Psion posted:

I believe you mean these :colbert:


How did this beautiful beast lose to the F-22 again?

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Jan 17, 2010


Does it have a volleyball scene?

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Jan 17, 2010


Is that digital camo? Man they'll copy anything, even the bad stuff.

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Jan 17, 2010


Does his patch say, Old Turk or Cold Turk? Either way, he's one fly motherfucker.

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Jan 17, 2010


bewbies posted:

I don't think the Chinese did much direct copying of any Soviet tanks after the split. They tried to build counters/competitors but I don't think they ripped off any designs.

They're probably content enough at that point having copied everything else the Russians came up with then and there after.

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Jan 17, 2010


FrozenVent posted:

10 F-35, two LCS or 50 Black Hawks.

Think of savings! We can buy two of the worst boondoggles ever in limited quantity, or a fleet of choppers already in wide circulation that the military has expressed strong interest in replacing.

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Jan 17, 2010


Got this in my email for somehow and for some reason.

Save the EA-18 Growler

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Jan 17, 2010


iyaayas01 posted:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOaGgY2yUHw

e: Especially since because I'm pretty sure it was made in the early '00's I like to imagine that this video alone consumed a sizable chunk of the Kremlin's budget.

Your video lead me to this:

http://youtu.be/ihVszNrz6dQ

It's one of those cheesy CGI proof of concept videos that military defense contractors release to help demonstrate, justify, and/or explain an expensive piece future hardware that usually ends up being too costly, too complex, or just plain badly designed. The difference is this one is for an Russian ground attack drone for when they invade the States. :v:

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Jan 17, 2010


How about this one Future Combat System , it looks like a 90's intro trailer for a video game.

Fun starts at 2:57, it should be noted that all of the "future" vehicles and hardware displayed in this video has all been shelved, cancelled, or never developed before they were expected to be deployed in 2014.

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Jan 17, 2010


Arglebargle III posted:

They went the way of the French on the Type 99 MBT and made the armor package modular, so they're probably done with tank development for the moment like the rest of the world.

Maybe Lockheed Martin will take a crap at making the next M1A3 Abrams; It can't be any harder then making a plane, amirite? :v:

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Jan 17, 2010


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jms2zOU2MZE

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Jan 17, 2010


BIG HEADLINE posted:

Oh, and the early stab at Canada because we thought Britain didn't cared enough about it to start a war.

There we go.

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Jan 17, 2010


MrYenko posted:

There isn't a civilian airplane anywhere that has a chance against a godamned SA-11 emplacement.

Well there's technically :airquote:one:airquote: http://youtu.be/R2eehBk_DNQ?t=20s

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Jan 17, 2010


simplefish posted:

Since we're talking about guns vs missiles, have one of my favourites - the M551 Sheridan fire control video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFGhY88hOnI

Every time I read up on the Sheridan ,Starship, or the M70 I can't help but wonder how close they were to making a working and functional design/concept that we're only now beginning to consider for ground force vehicles; multi-function high precision launch platforms. Only now instead trying to get a working missile to fire out of cannons, they're getting cannon rounds to act like missiles.

Edit: I spotted this gem in a image search for the Sheridan, what is it? The host page doesn't work but the imagine description says it had a 75mm autocannon of all things. :stare:


VVV Definitely wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of one these things, I wonder why they were never produced in limited numbers for testing; seems like a sound enough concept, have a light and mobile AA platform that could double as an AV(AT?) platform if required.

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Jan 17, 2010


Scut posted:

Ambition aside, I bet its crews are VERY happy it wasn't tested in a hot war en masse.

I'm pretty sure they did their fair share of complaining because they were used during Vietnam.

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Jan 17, 2010


Zapdos posted:

I'm guessing it is supposed to turn itself sideways?

Ours just make a wimpy arch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwV-JucQktQ

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Jan 17, 2010


priznat posted:

A slow arc seems less risky that you won't just face plant the missile back in the water.

But yeah, coolness. :D

They do that to help make it more difficult to pinpoint the origin of the missile.

E: Always beaten

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Jan 17, 2010


david_a posted:

Can somebody explain jet <-> missile compatibility to a layman like me? For instance, in the above article they mention that it would have cost a lot of money to upgrade the F-14 to handle newer missiles. The F-106 was apparently also saddled with mediocre missiles that held it back. I'm guessing a "missile system" is a lot more than just a goodie-filled tube with fins on it?

Not all missiles are fire and forget that allows some level of autonomous capability, many of the more advanced missiles require specialized components and/or electronic equipment on the airframe they're fired from to properly function. They are other considerations like hardpoints, weight, balance, empty space, and other things, but the right equipment is a big one. And that equipment cost money.

E: Never not beaten.

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Jan 17, 2010


Davin Valkri posted:

What was a Russian mechanized column even doing in Ukraine in the first place? I thought the aid trucks were supposed to be, like, (underloaded?) trucks and stuff, not BTRs.

All the aid trucks were suppose to take a specific route that lead into Ukraine controlled territory where they would be unloaded, inspected, and disturbed by the Red Cross. Well a large number of uninspected trucks complete with armed escorts toke a route that lead directly into separatist control territory, aids stopped at the border, escorts proceeded on.

Ukraine is like: Hey dude, you're sending armed APC and stuff into my backyard, what the hell?

Russia: No we're not, you're making this up. They don't exist.

Ukraine: If you don't send them back in a few hours, we're going to blow them up, dude.

Russia: Fine! Go ahead.

Ukraine: Ok, we blew them up with artillery. Happy?

Russia: Whatever, they totally didn't exist.

(Dozen of sources have video and picture proof of them existing and crossing into Ukraine)

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Jan 17, 2010


Shooting Blanks posted:

I'm still pissed off that NYC got a shuttle and Houston didn't. loving idiots even managed to damage it before putting it on display, assholes.

At least we get the dedicated SpaceX launch site in couple years. World's first and only commercial spaceport. :smug:

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Jan 17, 2010



I would argue you need to actually put people in "space" before you can call yourself a spaceport, in which case the race to being the first spaceport is still on; however I'll concede point anyway. That aside, I can't wait to drive down and watch them launch the Dragon 2, that thing is going to be so awesome.

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Jan 17, 2010


Cippalippus posted:

In case you're right, you're still the one who will fight for me.

Why would we fight for you?

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Jan 17, 2010


Mortabis posted:

...let's post some loving planes

Or Helicopters for that matter; The Army is pretty committed to replacing the Blackhawk and Apache with a single muti-role helicopter at this point and several companies have already submitted potential designs. Some of them are pretty out there concept wise as far a helicopters go.

The Defiant, which is going to be a larger troop transport variation of Sikorsky's Raider


Bell's V-280 Valor which is a redesign of the Blackhawk into a mini-osprey.


The Eurocopter X3


The Piasecki X-49A


And the AVX OH-58D showed up again to be laughed at. :v:

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Jan 17, 2010


Mazz posted:

That all really seems to stem from the really high cruise speed the army is looking for.

I forget if this article is behind a paywall, but the most recent update gives a pretty good reason for why the Karem and AVX proposals more or less got told to gently caress off. Between that and Google/wiki you can get a decent idea of the program/requirements.

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/jmr-fvl-the-us-militarys-future-helicopters-014035/

It's behind a paywall unfortunately. :smith:

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Jan 17, 2010


bewbies posted:

If there is an area where we clearly lag behind the Russians it is in producing fantastically good videos about our weapons systems.

case in point (don't bother actually watching it)

Difference is we actually build the weaponry we :fap: to, not write fanfiction about it.

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Jan 17, 2010


Hubis posted:

Am I off base?

Not at all.

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Jan 17, 2010


evil_bunnY posted:

Yeah there's a good loving reason nobody fucks with NK, and it's not their state of the art armed forces.

That has more to do with the fact with they're protected by China, and no one wants to invade China to get to NK.

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Jan 17, 2010


I don't believe anything Lockheed is selling at this point. :crossarms:

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Jan 17, 2010


Cyrano4747 posted:

It's what we're going to power the laser with, silly!

Remember when the Comanche stealth helicopter was going to have a laser cannon instead of an auto-cannon. :allears:

priznat posted:

S/VTOL reactor?

Marines and their silly requirements.

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Jan 17, 2010


Pornographic Memory posted:

Probably because the F-35 is a shitpile that progressively smothers the design and manufacture of non-American Western all jet fighters with each new country that adopts it.

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Jan 17, 2010


TheFluff posted:

The Meteor is slated to enter service in 2015 too, that should make it even easier. If it works, that is. New and untried tech is scary.

I know the Royal Air Force is falling apart and regressive, but this is ridiculous. :v:

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Jan 17, 2010


Waldstein Sonata posted:

Oh hey, it's 28 North just past 267. I always wondered what was in that weird inverted glass trapezoid building.

I think Russia's state media has managed, yet again, to one-up Fox News. Prior to the launch, it's a "Rossiesko-Amerikanskoi" rocket launch. (Pardon my terrible Cyrillic transliteration).



After the failure it's an "Amerikano-Ukrainskaya" rocket launch.



Really? I know the Russian propaganda machine is well beyond ridiculous, but who are they trying fool? It's no secret to anyone and even their own people they've been sell rocket motors to us for years.

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Jan 17, 2010



Somewhere in there, there is a fishing joke to be made.

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Jan 17, 2010


The real easy money is in network infrastructure, what with everyone going crazy and :circlefap: about cloud computing; I've never had it so good.

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Jan 17, 2010


Medicinal Penguin posted:

Compared to the F-35, "hasn't been built yet" is a pretty big competitive advantage.

From what I understand, the baby Paks they've built have just as many mechanical problems as the F-35, not that they'll be able to effort them anyway.

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Jan 17, 2010


iyaayas01 posted:

If only you didn't need stuff like "fuel" and "ammunition" to fight a war, Western Europe would be set!

We should repurpose NATO into a giant protection racket at this point since no one else in NATO is willing to spend that minimum 2% on their military anymore. :v:

Don Gato posted:

NEVER. ENUFF. DAKKA! :orks:

The little comment about how they work makes me think that they did that for shits and giggles. Not gonna lie, I want to see how fast a MiG would disintegrate following an encounter with that thing even if in real life it would lose pretty badly to any plane it didn't get the jump on.

If it was functional, would you really even try to approach something that could shot a literal wall of lead?

Back Hack fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Nov 17, 2014

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Jan 17, 2010


Warbadger posted:

I hear there's an opening for that job.

Why would they do that, they have enough gold filling to retire on.

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Jan 17, 2010


I'm so giddy right now, someone just did a low flying pass over my neighbor in a B-17 here in Houston. loving amazing :aaa:

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Jan 17, 2010


Scratch Monkey posted:

Which one?

(The B-17 not the neighborhood)

Look like this was the culprit, The Texas Raiders...unless there are more B-17s flying around in the area. :tinfoil:

Back Hack fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Nov 27, 2014

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Jan 17, 2010


mlmp08 posted:

In the world of military acquisitions or pitches to be acquired that aren't picked up, there is no insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3F0mQJfraU

If you're going to go down that route you might as well make a modern day version of the greyhound with a 20mm turret controlled from the passenger seat.

Back Hack fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Dec 10, 2014

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