B4Ctom1 posted:

I saw the Berlin Wall fall from a tiny TV screen while on alert.

mlmp08 posted:

Uh, they fielded quite a bit of this in the form of the Linebacker system (now retired but saw action in OIF) and the Avenger system, which we still have today.

mlmp08 posted:

Also, the SGT York was a disaster, but it was never intended to replace Patriot. It has a totally different role. The SGT York was supposed to be a maneuver shorad AAA system, whereas Patriot is a mobile long range SAM which can only fire when emplaced. Maybe I'm not understanding you.

Senor Science posted:

Oh man, that Su-25 is one sexy beast!

And speaking of Peru, it's interesting they were the only South American nation that uses Russki stuff.

kill me now posted:

In fact it was such a cool paint job that when the Navy decided to decommission VF-84 in '95 the Tomcat community refused to let the livery die and VF-103 took on the Jolly rogers insignia.

Sunday Punch posted:

_firehawk posted:

Honestly, If the seals didn't have enough time to destroy the rest of that stealth helicopter, why couldn't the military have hit it with a missile strike from a drone? I can't believe there were no drones in the area.

Sunday Punch posted:

^^^ Terrifying and hilarious at the same time!

Here's a Lockheed concept from the 70s:


A big boring flying boat right? Actually it's more like a cross between an AC-130 and a warship. Called Seasitter, it was designed as a Sea Control plane, and armed with a 105mm gun sticking out the port side, two 20mm CIWS guns, a Seasprite ASW helicopter and a bunch of Lance missiles in vertical launchers.





It's like something you'd find in an Ace Combat game.

Sunday Punch posted:

New background found, A-7 Corsairs loaded for bear. Also everything else appears to be on fire.



Click for full size.

Mr. Despair posted:

That's awesome.

Flanker posted:

I need to know more

edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_T-50

I wonder what the NATO name will be. Voting 'Foreskin'

Flikken posted:

I wonder how big of a brick Pakistan is making GBS threads?

Flikken posted:

Think that fighter could carry a small nuclear bomb?

priznat posted:

mlmp08 posted:

I promise it's a gremlin.

Flikken posted:

Yes but couldn't a stealth aircraft become a first strike game changer in their MAD doctorine. Especially multiple strikes on Pakistani nuclear forces to maybe bring them off of the table and eliminate the counter strike capability before the Pakastani's even know what hit them?

Frozen Horse posted:

I was thinking more about the big ear-trumpets you used to see as a way to get a bearing on aircraft and for artillery counter-battery fire back in WW1. With modern electronics rather than ears, a phased array over a broad area of countryside could tell you exactly where everything in the air is, similar to passive sonar.

Flanker posted:

Hohohoholllyyy shiitttt!

THAT is how you fire someone!

I don't like your attitude, therefore I have no choice but to eject you from this super sonic death trap over Asia.

LavistaSays posted:

My house is about 3/4th of a mile beyond the flight line of the 106th air rescue wing NY ANG base, which is a pararescue facility today but was once a fighter interceptor air wing. At least 2 squadrons (4 I think) of special operations capable personnel, and one of the eastern most heavy-lift capable runways that can land B52's or C5's in the us means I'm pretty well hosed in a nuke Exchange. I'm glad the cold war has ended.

But if there were an invasion, or resource war our air wings runway, plus long islands barrier beaches and natural harbors I always figured the Russians would want to take the area intact, as a foothold into the eastern us theater of war.

LavistaSays posted:

Used to be a missile complex about 5 miles up the road. The sheriffs use the silos for blowing up confiscated fireworks today.

I figure jfk and lga were both smoking holes, either the Russians were already targeting them, or our own forces would crater the runways and blow the fuel depots while withdrawing in a conventional fight. The same goes for the big suspension bridges out of LI, and NYC's tunnels. New York city would be a huge mess with numerous economic targets.

There are some fighter wings and ground forces but not much armor around in the decisive first few hours. With such a lack of forces I could see a couple ekranoplans slipping across the Atlantic, coming into the protected peconic bay and rolling tanks down sunrise highway. About 7 miles from beachhead to the 106ths flight line. Then they pull plays from the old Afghanistan invasion and ride troops in while transmitting as airliners.

NosmoKing posted:

More accurate now.

Baconroll posted:

I think if it came to a full exchange then most neutrals would get hit. The Brits would likely pop one on Argentina for old times sake.

The letter to sub commanders under Thatcher was meant to simply say 'Strike Back'.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Considering that Red Storm Rising doesn't go nuclear real fast and the NATO response would have been tactical nukes, it's sort of fundamentally flawed.

That airmobile ICBM thing seems insane and also strangely logical, what got it shitcanned?

priznat posted:

Were the Falklands the first conflict where air launched anti ship missiles were used? The Argentinan Excocets were a very big deal and did some significant damage (Sinking HMS Sheffield and the Atlantic Conveyor).

The conflict really exposed how lacking the air defenses on the ships were, with a couple others getting sunk by A4s dropping bombs on em.

Scratch Monkey posted:

The German talent for gathering men and using them to create out of whole cloth effective fighting groups is testament enough to their field level officers' ability to think on their feet. Even the general officers in the Wehrmacht, the guys who talked to Hitler on a regular basis, had relatively little trouble ignoring him when they knew that his new dumb plan or order would get them all killed.