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rossmum posted:I could've sworn Vulcan had more letters than that. The V-bombers look like Go-Bots.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2010 21:53 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 04:00 |
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Ygolonac posted:"Hey Dave, what's the weight of that reactor? How many tons? Slamming and rolling and total loss of cooling systems and controls and uranium is kinda mass-y, is there any chance it could get slapped into a critical mass?" I don't believe this. The possible avenues this crash could take would be:
In regards to massive radioactive release, there is no doubt. Uranium is not very radioactive (as in, we handle new fuel with our nearly bare hands), but its fission products are. This hypothetical airborne reactor would have been running, and would have plenty of highly active byproducts to spread in a crash. The risk of a detonation on the other hand is not there because the conditions required for creating an explosion of the kind we are familiar with from nuclear weapons is the result of painstaking engineering. Civilian nuclear reactors are perfectly capable of a meltdown with hundreds of times the critical mass required by their fuels. A nuclear fission [chain] reaction demands one key thing: Each fission should give rise to at least one neutron that successfully causes another fission. Depending on a lot of factors, each fission actually produces 2-3 neutrons regardless of whether you're busy satisfying or eliminating the electric demands of a city. Where did those 1-2 neutrons go? Well, they go a lot of places. A very large number are simply lost to the surroundings. That "critical mass" people talk about is just a thought experiment asking, "If we had this fissile material formed into the ideal shape, such that its neutrons reacted with itself as much as possible, and were lost to the environment as little as possible (i.e. a sphere), what would the mass be?" Geometry is terribly important, and very intentionally chosen. Let's say that reactor slammed into the ground, going from stable seven-brides-for-seven-brothers fission to being a mangled pile of ex-fuel elements. I bet you there'd be plenty of little local spots where the conditions were just right so that more neutrons that necessary were produced, causing the reaction to go faster and faster. It's not the end of the world. Those bits would just get very hot and, for example, vaporize. The formerly critical spot would turn into a hot gas, its density plummet, and the neutrons produced by each individual fission would be subject to a drastically higher chance of never participating in a fission reaction. Less than one successful child fission per parent fission means subcriticality and the (at least temporary) end of the reaction. Now, what makes those fission bombs so special that they destroy cities with less uranium than a few civilian fuel elements? Well, they have mechanisms in place to keep all that fissile material together so that it has a chance to react all at once. I'd like to compare it to how low explosives like gun powder need to be tightly wrapped in order to function as explosives, but that would be a lie. The proximity of the fuel to itself is controlling the reaction, and as soon as the reaction has forced the fuel apart (vaporization etc.) it's over, for now.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2010 08:05 |
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iyaayas01 posted:That whole bit is awesome and is what this thread is all about. I would just add that the part I quoted above was what was driving a lot of uncertainty regarding the plutonium implosion design (what eventually became the standard for a fission weapon). Weapons-grade plutonium (nearly isotopically pure Pu-239) has a lower critical mass, and reacts in a way which is more practical for causing a detonation, but the engineering (and science) is the same as uranium. iyaayas01 posted:covering the surrounding area with highly radioactive debris. Not call you on this, but what were these incidents? What was "highly radioactive"? Had a self-propagation reaction briefly been attained? Was there some sort of highly radioactive neutron source (Cm-252) embedded in the bomb? Or were they referring to the tritium?
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2010 18:34 |
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I love SAMs and you should start a new thread on them, mlmp08. I vaguely remember a controversy about some the US's ABM tests being described as successful, despite using "illuminated" targets. What was the story about these? Was this the THAAD?
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2010 19:04 |
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MA-Horus posted:Interesting fact about Canada's go-fast bird.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2011 22:41 |
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You in NE?
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2011 17:08 |
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That post made my day.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2011 21:02 |
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Sunday Punch posted:
Sunday Punch, I should probably add that, as a nuclear engineer, just seeing this picture caused me to make a Professor Frink "narf" out loud.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2011 17:03 |
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because canadians are so canadian its greek
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2011 17:40 |
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Sunday Punch posted:Bonus image of a shuttle-like design with a hovercraft aircushion instead of standard landing gear Who proposed this? Did it have a name?
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2011 18:50 |
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Sunday Punch posted:It was part of a design study from Bell carried out in 1970. Everything you could ever want to know about air cushion landing systems can be found in this PDF of the report.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2011 19:23 |
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Sunday Punch posted:I'm putting together some stuff for a post I hope to get up some time in the next few days, here's a clue. Is there a forums upgrade you've been needing?
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2011 19:29 |
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Sunday Punch posted:Here's some illustrations from a 70s Sikorsky design study for low radar cross section modifications for the Blackhawk. Obviously the idea of a stealthy Blackhawk has been around for a long time, but it would be pretty interesting if it turns out the crashed chopper is just such an aircraft. No details on the rotors (too bad), the main changes are a pointed nose and sloped fuselage sides: I apologize for having forgotten your Archives upgrade in return for the Dynasoar post. Enjoy!
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# ¿ May 5, 2011 20:19 |
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iyaayas01 posted:Slo-Tek, those pictures were awesome, especially the engine test bed pre-BUFF. Regarding the Cutlass, it's amazing just how much the Westinghouse engine debacles of the '40s and '50s hosed US military aviation, specifically Naval Aviation. Any more on the Westinghouse problems?
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# ¿ May 29, 2011 21:10 |
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iyaayas01 posted:Sup http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjs3nBfyIwM
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2011 22:53 |
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mikerock posted:To be fair to the CF-104 most of the accidents on those planes were to the Luftwaffe using them inappropriately. 100% of CF-104 accidents were due to not buying enough Bomarcs.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2012 23:15 |
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Video of a Syrian ZSU-23-4 firing at apartments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXg6vuUiShU Is the radome removed/folded down, or do were there different options for it?
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2012 12:45 |
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Throatwarbler posted:"Cymbeline" mortar locating radar send by our good friends Britain, in use against dirty Vietnamese imperialists. Used by the PRC against Vietnam?
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2012 23:01 |
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Propagandalf posted:
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2012 19:04 |
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Soapbox derby Draken:
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2012 20:38 |
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brains posted:this pic works well as a reminder that ch-53s are almost as long as a c-130. longer, if you count the rotor diameter in total length, and almost the same footprint. they're gigantic. Did someone say CH-53 and C-130? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO0sRWCf9k4
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2012 00:04 |
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Oh, ye of little faith... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4CQfaBGWSo
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2012 21:51 |
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Propagandalf posted:Fast acquisitions like A-12 and P-51 had the advantage of filling a massive gaping hole in military capability, which is much easier to back than a new tanker than doesn't do anything better than the old one except 'be new'. "Be new" is a pretty nice feature when it comes to maintenance and spare parts.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2012 21:41 |
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wkarma posted:Here's some cold war history I'd never heard before. That core grid is hilarious (and only 55 cm deep), but you can apparently do a lot when your fuel's enriched to 93 %.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2012 23:45 |
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BrainGlitch posted:I want to hear all about this. I love me some NATO MBTs. In everything but name!
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2012 08:48 |
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Phanatic posted:It would be trivial for Japan to produce a nuclear weapon were it to decide it wanted one. It's got plenty of plutonium from reprocessing spent fuel, and while it does use it for creating MOX fuel, it could easily stop doing so and instead use it for bombs. Also, they make their own uranium fuel in the first place, they have their own enrichment facilities, and if they really felt like it they could produce HEU for a bomb. This is absolutely false. Plutonium from reprocessing light-water reactor fuel (Japan's reactors) is far too isotopically impure (Pu-241 develops over time and causes premature criticality) to be used in weapons. Reprocessing specially burned uranium-238 targets in reactors that can be fueled online is the way to make plutonium. Japan on the other hand has tons of uranium enrichment capacity, so why would it need plutonium?
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# ¿ May 14, 2012 22:54 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Sweden: willing to fight to the last Finn You're getting quoted.
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# ¿ May 15, 2012 19:51 |
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Phanatic posted:The issue's not Pu241, it's Pu240, which undergoes spontaneous fission and releases neutrons, which means predetonation if you try to build a light gun-type weapon out of plutonium. Absolutely correct--typo. We call it "double capture." Phanatic posted:The reaction that turns U238 into Pu239 at Hanford is exactly the same as the reaction that turns U238 into Pu239 in a civilian power plant. The difference is that the U238 targets in a reactor specifically intended for that transmutation are irradiated for a shorter period of time, so not as much of the Pu240 side-product accumulates. It would not be *efficient* for the Japanese to modify the fuel cycle of a PWR or BWR so that they're inserting new fuel elements and removing old ones each month, but it could produce plutonium with sufficiently low amounts of Pu241 to be used in a bomb. This goes beyond not efficient. The fuel cycles would be much shorter--on the order of days--and would constitute a naked ambition to develop nuclear weapons. In which case, it would be much easier to go develop centrifuges, gas diffusion facilities, or South African uranium whistles just as publicly. I could grind coffee with my Volvo's back wheels, but it would be insanely impractical, my neighbors would complain, and everybody would wonder why I didn't just get a Braun.
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# ¿ May 15, 2012 19:57 |
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Stroh M.D. posted:Nah, Barsebäck took care of the Danes for us. "With Plutonium we bring the Danes to their knees" The plant does guided tours, and they're totally worth it if you happen to be in Lund or Malmö. The place has been decontaminated to the point where you don't even need to suit up anymore to go over to the plant side. Groda fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 19, 2012 |
# ¿ May 19, 2012 15:22 |
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Why do people always write the B-1's designation like that?
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2012 22:49 |
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They taste just like hot dogs. :-/
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2012 23:08 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:Russia's Missile Forces have Sledgehammers for opening malfunctioning launch code safes. Meanwhile, in Britain...
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2012 16:31 |
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Slamburger posted:This sounds like a Laurel and Hardy sketch. Abbott and Costello?
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2012 18:46 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:In Soyuz space capsules, there are two switches next to each other. Once does a task that is routine that you have to do frequently (like stir the oxygen tanks or something); the other fires the parachutes, which if you fire before the right time, will cause you to die. Both switches are unlabeled. citation needed
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2012 23:26 |
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movax posted:I thought I read somewhere that they had to purposefully poison/denature fluids in the aircraft (de-icing I think) because conscripts kept drinking it to get wasted. Why wouldn't you use denatured alcohol for such purposes?
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2012 20:42 |
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The Proc posted:Here's a detailed government report on the aftermath: http://www.ornl.gov/info/reports/1961/3445600598663.pdf Hahaha, I'm printing this out and putting it on the break room table at my plant.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2012 23:32 |
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mlmp08 posted:Unpublished was the report "effects of horrible poisons on lower-caste peoples"
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2012 08:47 |
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From a pure graphic design standpoint, I love it.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2012 17:49 |
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The rotor is used to land, by opposing the repulsion of the ground.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2012 19:43 |
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StandardVC10 posted:Our air mattress landing strip technology is clearly superior.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2012 17:34 |