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Yeah, I sometimes use a wireless Logitech mouse and I don't notice any difference between it and my wired Razer mouse. Honestly the only problem is that the battery might run out of juice at an inopportune time.
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Jehde posted:I know it sounds like not-help but you really don't want wireless for gaming, the input lag is always bad. Horseshit, there's no noticeable input lag on my G700s and that's backed up by everyone who's used it. The battery life, on the other hand, is terrible.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:58
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Microsoft wireless intellimouse explorer 2.0 continues to be the best mouse of all time, fifteen years later.
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Jehde posted:I know it sounds like not-help but you really don't want wireless for gaming, the input lag is always bad. I dunno like, I use a 360 wireless controller on my PC and I'm sure my terrible Pinball Arcade scores can't be blamed on input lag.
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Dec 8, 2014 08:43
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Ramagamma posted:I dunno like, I use a 360 wireless controller on my PC and I'm sure my terrible Pinball Arcade scores can't be blamed on input lag.
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Dec 8, 2014 09:22
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kalstrams posted:'Pinball' is not amongst the type games that are victims to a susceptible input lag from a controller - generally that is only a concern for an FPS game. This isn't true at all.
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Dec 8, 2014 09:35
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:This isn't true at all.
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Dec 8, 2014 09:38
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The entire point of pinball is precision and speed. And I believe The Pinball Arcade did suffer from some input lag on PS3 when it was first released. If you can hit the ball at the exact moment you need, it's virtually impossible to get a high-score
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:The entire point of pinball is precision and speed.
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Dec 8, 2014 09:54
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Lets be honest, input lag isn't what's holding you back from those space-age k/d ratios in CS:Go.
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Ramagamma posted:Lets be honest, input lag isn't what's holding you back from those space-age k/d ratios in CS:Go. Edit: Also, k/d is a dumb statistic to go by in most cases. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Dec 8, 2014 |
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Dec 8, 2014 11:37
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:Horseshit, there's no noticeable input lag on my G700s and that's backed up by everyone who's used it. Yeah, as much as I love the Logitech mice and the G700s in particular, it might as well not have had a wireless function considering it runs out of power after a few hours. I use mine cabled because otherwise it doesn't even last me a full evening.
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I used to have a wireless Logitech mouse, and despite that being years ago, there wasn't any noticeable lag at all. What I have found out though after going to a wired Razer, is that it's not really worth it anyway. The only benefit is a slightly cleaner desk (it still had the transmitter on a cable, not unlike an xbox wireless receiver nowadays) but then you had to deal with pairing, buying/charging batteries, higher cost, and a heavier mouse. Simply not worth it for the general use case where the mouse doesn't leave the area of a small square on the desk.
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mobby_6kl posted:I used to have a wireless Logitech mouse, and despite that being years ago, there wasn't any noticeable lag at all. What I have found out though after going to a wired Razer, is that it's not really worth it anyway. The only benefit is a slightly cleaner desk (it still had the transmitter on a cable, not unlike an xbox wireless receiver nowadays) but then you had to deal with pairing, buying/charging batteries, higher cost, and a heavier mouse. Simply not worth it for the general use case where the mouse doesn't leave the area of a small square on the desk. I'm interested in a cleaner desk. I'll deal with the battery changes and a slightly heavier mouse if it means the only cords coming out of my computer are for power and the monitor.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Totally agree with this. I know there is plenty of room to go from my current 1920x1200 resolution but at some point it feels sort of like overkill. Diminishing visual returns for extremely demanding computing power requirements and costs to produce the resources I'm looking at. I went to 1440p a year ago and it's a big difference from 1080p, I have screenshot screensaver and the difference is really noticable when a 1440p shot comes up so I assume that 4k will be similarly gooderer. I know I won't be maxing everything out at 1440p any time soon, it was just a thought for the future. I ended up looking at 1440p in the first place purely because my 7950 was handling everything easily and I was getting something like 130FPS on Dishonored. Doesn't seen so long ago 800x600 seemed razor-sharp.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:I dont see that much point in going into resolutions/pixel densities so high you need your eye to start touching the screen to see the boundaries. Maximum useful view distance in any video game is the point where a given object becomes a single pixel. In any kind of game or simulator where long distances are presented (Arma and just about any flight simulator,) higher resolution becomes incredibly valuable. There is a limit, based on perceivable pixel sizes, which is tied to the eye's distance from the screen, which means that there is merit in the argument that sub-50" 4K TVs are a dumb idea, but with our eyeballs so much closer to our monitors, there's room for improvement, at even higher-than-4K resolutions.
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Dec 9, 2014 13:49
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Walton Simons posted:Doesn't seen so long ago 800x600 seemed razor-sharp. 800x600 was razor-sharp in the days when most people had 14-15" screens. In 1999 I had a 17" one and could play Unreal @ 1600x1200 with my Voodoo 3 3000 and was "woah, I can't see pixels, this is amazing". Nowadays with a 23" screen and playing stuff at 1080p I usually only set AA on x2 or x4 and I'm more concerned on having smooth framerates than getting fancier lights (like in BF4 where smooth>eyecandy).
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Dec 9, 2014 14:26
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gently caress a smooth framerate, sick nasty graphics 4 lyfe
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Walton Simons posted:I went to 1440p a year ago and it's a big difference from 1080p, I have screenshot screensaver and the difference is really noticable when a 1440p shot comes up so I assume that 4k will be similarly gooderer. I know I won't be maxing everything out at 1440p any time soon, it was just a thought for the future. I ended up looking at 1440p in the first place purely because my 7950 was handling everything easily and I was getting something like 130FPS on Dishonored. Doesn't seen so long ago 800x600 seemed razor-sharp. If you're watching 1080 screenshots on 1440 they're going to be noticeably blurry due to not being in their native resolution, so I think you're looking at some confirmation bias reinforcement there.
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Fair point about the native res, I just hadn't thought of that. I do notice the difference in a lot of games, though (really!), especially ones where you're looking at faraway objects a lot like X3.
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Verisimilidude posted:I'm interested in a cleaner desk. I'll deal with the battery changes and a slightly heavier mouse if it means the only cords coming out of my computer are for power and the monitor. Honestly the only wireless mouse I would use at this point is the Logitech G602 if only because of its insane battery life (if you're not using Xtreme G4mer mode). Even those ones that come with charging docks defeats the purpose of a cleaner desk.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:17
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Modern gaming: an immense embarrassment of riches.
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Obviously the solution is to saw a hole in your desk and mount a trackball through it, running the wire underneath. 
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I relocated my PC to a place where it doesn't have as much air as before so just to be sure I started monitoring the temps a bit and now I love my 970 even more. Per factory settings the fans start turning at 60 celsius and playing Far Cry 4 it only goes to 65. Alien Isolation... 61. How does that even work?
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Nvidia has been killing it the last few years with really amazing stock cooling solutions. I always used to buy an aftermarket HSF combo to replace the stock cooling on cards, but there's no need these days. Nvidias stock coolers are quiet and efficient, it's awesome.
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I thought the coolers were entirely the responsibility of the vendors while Nvidia just provides the GPU and reference circuitry.
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notZaar posted:I thought the coolers were entirely the responsibility of the vendors while Nvidia just provides the GPU and reference circuitry. He might mean the actual nVidia reference cards, which you can buy. I believe they're Best Buy exclusive though.
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A few vendors use stock NVidia cooling, including EVGA, though EVGA also sells cards with their own cooling. As of the 700 series, it looks like this.
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macnbc posted:He might mean the actual nVidia reference cards, which you can buy. I believe they're Best Buy exclusive though. It's an MSI, but I was always under the impression that the cooling solutions are mostly the same and heat generation pretty much down to the chip architecture.
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GhostDog posted:It's an MSI, but I was always under the impression that the cooling solutions are mostly the same and heat generation pretty much down to the chip architecture.
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Usually the first batch of a new card are all reference coolers. Then as time goes on some of the various manufactureres stick with stock, and others introduce a premium tier with better, quieter cooling. But yeah, even Nvidias stock cooling is amazing these days, doubly so compared to the leaf blowers we had way back when.
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Great Joe posted:MSi is another company that does stock and non-stock cooling. The Twin Frozr is actually a good deal quieter than the stock cooling.  I loved how silent my 8800gt was, and after 3 years of this 560ti I still think it's way loud.
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Wow I had no idea these vendors are basically just glorified middlemen, I assumed they made all the parts except the GPU itself. Talk about lame.
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All the GTX 970/980 cards seemed to follow "MORE FANS = BETTER" and looked like the manufacturer just stuck some cheap poo poo they had lying around onto the card. The reference GTX 970 I bought looks amazing and is far quieter than either of the two 3rd party GTX 660 TI cards I had.
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Zedd posted:And with that he means that it still sounds like a jetplane taking off.
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Anyone use the nvidia shield thing with AMD cards, with like splashtop or something? I was thinking about picking one up for a fancy portable emulator deal, being able to stream PC games to it while I'm at home would put it over the top. Not interested enough to buy an nvidia card, but it would be novel.
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Zedd posted:And with that he means that it still sounds like a jetplane taking off. The 560ti is one of the noisiest cards there's been in years. I'm on a 770 now after a 560ti and it's practically silent in comparison. Fermi was hot as balls.
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Fil5000 posted:The 560ti is one of the noisiest cards there's been in years. I'm on a 770 now after a 560ti and it's practically silent in comparison. Fermi was hot as balls.  Ah well, It still keeps up with releases to my liking and I am starting to use my TV as a monitor more and more so it's further away from where I play nowadays.
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Speaking of GPU noise, anyone out there got a 970? If so, how bad is your coil whine? I've heard reports that it's pretty bad, and I'm debating getting one.
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macnbc posted:Speaking of GPU noise, anyone out there got a 970? I have an MSI 970 and I get zero coil whine unless I start running a game at 400fps or something. Conversely a friend has returned four EVGA 970's before just giving up on it all together so it's just luck of the draw.
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