Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

The Gunslinger posted:

Ignoring the larger overall debate for a moment, there is nothing in Windows 8 that is desirable to a gamer or worth upgrading from Windows 7 for.

Bu-bu-but DirectX 11.1

Though considering just how scattered DirectX implementation is right now, that probably isn't a good thing.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Why wouldn't you want your monitor smelling like salad dressing? :colbert:

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

It doesn't help that the game you suggest isn't very much different from the games you condemn.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Buy separate. I think there's all of one company that makes good headsets and I can't remember their name right now. Their stuff's also quite expensive. Get good headphones, get a good microphone. There's a headphone thread over in IYG where you can find some good recommendations for your budget, and Logitech's USB mic is a great deal for the money they charge.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Alkanos posted:

[*]Piracy is ridiculously easy compared to consoles, unless you add in terrible DRM that alienates your customers. You can always go with Steamworks for this, which most gamers don't mind, but then you're relying on a competing publisher.

Wasn't there a study in 2009-2010 that revealed that consoles combined had more piracy overall than the PC did? I seem to remember that happening but I can't for the life of me find it.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Have you tried downloading the latest drivers for your graphics card?

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

Do you get a lot of mileage out of that thing? My laptop does the dual GPU thing and it seems like any time it accidentally boots into the integrated HD 4000 games pretty much just don't run well unless they're from 2006. I was wondering if the one I have is limited in some way because it's intended that you use the 630m for any 3D applications or if that's just the way the HD 4000 actually is.

I know for a fact that if you use the HD 4000 to run Dark Souls, it's slow enough that you can't play it online. I'd guess if you're used to low framerates it's alright. For some reason switching to 60 Hz helps framerates helps a lot.

Great Joe fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jan 21, 2013

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

The unmarked keys started off as a cost-lowering measure, but then typists started phoning in saying their words-per-minute had gone up after using it.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

AirRaid posted:

Well if you wanted a wireless keyboard, it would need to be USB, and that severely limits the number of possible simultaneous inputs (I think to 5?), whereas PS/2 supports as many as you can throw at it.

Here's a USB keyboard with full key rollover

Here's a PS/2 keyboard with a 6-key rollover limit

Great Joe fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Apr 26, 2013

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

How does that stuff affect airflow? Would a stock Intel fan need any extra effort to keep it going?

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Yes.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

SilentD posted:

Use a huge rear end mousepad and put the keyboard on it as well, see the desk on the right



Do you have a third battlestation with a bunch of Thermaltake logos? Christ, those look terrible.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

notZaar posted:

Am I seeing things, or is there a fan down there aimed at your crotch?

He's acknowledged it and even discussed the brand of fan.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

The basic idea is that in action games that support it, you can map movement to that little joystick, so you can move at weird angles and control the speed at which you walk or run. It's neat, but not everyone knows about it and even fewer people have anything like it, so don't expect full - or any - support from every game.

Logitech did something similar with the G13, which for a few extra bucks also has a little screen for game info.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

The G400 got discontinued since the G400s is supposed to replace it. The biggest benefit is that you know every G400s has a flawless sensor, whereas with the G400 the earlier models had 3rd-party sensors that had some manner of prediction software packed in.

Other than that, it's mostly just a newer product with updated drivers and maybe one or two design/ergonomic tweaks.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

G400s doesn't have a braided cable, and it's honestly kinda getting in my way right now

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Leper Residue posted:

Wait, people actually like braided cables?

The G5 I had earlier had a much straighter (braided) cable, and it would keep pretty straight no matter how I moved my mouse. The G400s' cable still has bends in it from when it was packaged, which affects how I can move it.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Ularg posted:

So what's this thing about mice and 500MHz or 1000MHz and what not and what does this mean for my G400s? Also, fresh OS install, any drivers I should grab for essentials? Major FPS player but I usually just dealt with whatever auto installed.

Video drivers and mouse drivers. Logitech doesn't update often, but their software makes it possible to configure your mouse in weird ways like setting up macros for individual games. Google your processor to see if it got any major improvements in a later driver update. Other than that, there's not much point in keeping updated.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Maxwell Adams posted:

I want to move really fast and hold a lot of guns.

I want that, and also for those guns to be weird. The world needs more spider launchers and :hellyeah:s.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Alkanos posted:

An exception is that ports by japanese devs are notoriously poor, but that's due to inexperience not sloth. In Japan, PCs are for super-niche indie games and porn games. So when a dev is handed a game to alter for PC they have no idea what the hell they're doing or what people want in a PC game. Doesn't matter how much support they're given by the publisher, it'll probably still be a weak port. Luckily, the last few high-profile stinkers seem to have been relatively easy to fix.

Depends on the dev, actually. Capcom's PS2-era PC ports were licensed to Ubisoft, who in turn outsourced them to some Chinese unknown. People complained, so from Lost Planet and onwards, they used an in-house engine that made for some great-looking ports. Square-Enix got experience with PCs for Final Fantasy XI, so the few ports they do are alright. Other than those two, there's Falcom, who've been doing PC stuff since before Windows even existed, so they usually get it right. When they get around to it, at least.

For anyone else, it's kind of a crapshoot.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

^^^^^^^^^^^Apparently, Windows 8 also runs faster.

Phuzun posted:

I don't believe there is a demo, but Need for Speed: Shift and Shift 2 are about the closest you will get to a Forza or Gran Turismo on PC. The Grid and Dirt games are excellent, but are very much arcade racers.

Grid might be arcadey to some, but Dirt is very much a simulation series. There's detailed damage modeling that affects the handling of the car, body roll and weight shifting is simulated and loving up a turn can mean that no amount of reacting or turning into your drift can save you. I'd recommend Dirt for anybody looking for an experience similar to GT's rally segment, but Dirt 2 and 3 use GFWL. Codemasters have said they'll remove GFWL from Dirt 3, but they've yet to actually do so.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Edgy Bees posted:

Don't forget that the same complaining went on early on in the release of Windows 7 as well and many of those complaints didn't die down until after the release of Windows 7 service pack 1.

This is wrong. Factually wrong.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Pretty sure every time this comes up, the guys who actually care about sound pipe up about getting headphones and a mod mic.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

spasticColon posted:

Is there a vsync sweet spot for Bioshock Infinite? If I have the in-game vsync turned on I get framerate hitching or stuttering during heavy action but if I turn it off it runs smoothly but then I get screen tearing. I'm running the game on the "Very High" in-game preset on a GTX 660Ti at 1080p so is there a setting in the nvidia control panel I could enable? I tried playing with the vsync settings in the nvidia control panel but I still get screen tearing or stuttering.

Get on the NVidia control panel (which is not the same thing as GeForce Experience), find Bioshock Infinite in 3D settings, put vsync on "adaptive" and enable triple buffering.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Sebastian Flyte posted:

For the arcade end of the range, on the top of my personal list is Need For Speed: Most Wanted. It has a ton of licensed cars, great graphics, police chases, and loads of jumps. Made by Criterion, which is pretty much the top dog when it comes to pure arcade racing fun.

I'd recommend getting Burnout Paradise instead. It's old but it's a much better sand box and the cars feel more fair to handle. Other than that, check out Trackmania, starting with Trackmania Nations Forever, since it's free. There's only one car, but the tracks are insanely varies, thanks to the track editor. There's half-pipes, loop-de-loops, wallrides, basically any stunt you could possibly pull in a car, you can do in Trackmania. If you like that, get United, which has more environments, each with their own car and stunt emphasis. They're also generally faster.

Also, check out Nitronic Rush, it's a DigiPen project, but much bigger than anything their students have done before. You can tilt the car in any direction and make it jump on command. This, again, opens up track design to do some crazy poo poo like have you jump off one part of the track, only to roll 180° to keep going on the ceiling. It got popular enough that after the devs graduated, they managed to kickstart a spiritual sequel called Distance, which is now in closed community alpha.

Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed plays great on the PC. It's pretty much the best kart racing game ever, except for maybe Crash Team Racing. It's really fast, controls feel great and the ways they make you boost are really fun. Most of the courses are pretty memorable, too.

As for Grid...the first one is a bit bland, but I guess it's a game. I had fun with it. The second one kinda reminds me of Daytona USA, since it makes you drift around almost every corner. Multiplayer's bog standard lobbies, but the single player bots are really aggressive, though a tad bit too easy at times.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Any sound engineer will tell you that the further from the board a sound card is, the better it sounds. There's a lot of electrical interference from fans, processors and the PSU that comes off as static. Get a USB sound card.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Ciaphas posted:

Am I correct in assuming that having a 120hz monitor is completely pointless if your machine can't actually reach 120FPS for a given game, or can they do some interpolation like 120hz HDTVs do?

Adjunct question, is 120hz something that a game has to specifically support?

No. Games usually just poll the screen itself for its refresh rate, which is especially useful since a good deal of 60Hz displays don't actually do exactly 60Hz, but some variation on 59.32Hz or something like that. The only obstacle is having a beefy enough rig to run the game at 120 FPS.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Also FYI if you get a BenQ, out of the box it's set to an eye-searing high contrast mode. I suggest loving around a bit with the settings until it starts looking better.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Depends on the game. Some games poll the screen for supported resolutions, others just have a list hard coded in. As for non-native resolutions, I think there's a program out there that lets you letterbox games, but I never heard the name of it. Might be worth googling around for, though.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

IPSes are slow by their very nature. If you're looking for a high quality panel that also does high frequencies, I'd look into VAs instead. Stuff like this.

edit: link fixed

Great Joe fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jan 12, 2014

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Oh, sorry about that. I fixed it, but here it is again.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Ramagamma posted:


Any thoughts?

I'm assuming your 46 inch screen shows 1080p, and that your desk setup is just one screen here, so keep that in mind:

Keep the i5, use stock cooling, check the PC Parts Picking thread (linked above) for a cheaper motherboard, skip the GeForce GTX 780 for a 760, get the EVGA Superclocked with ACX Cooling version if you want to splurge (and if it's still cheaper than the 780, I forget).

Cases are a matter of taste, and you didn't mention any specific features you want but that Corsair is butt-ugly. I suggest shopping around, maybe look for something a bit more understated.

Other than that, if you want a bigger hard drive, go for it, look for ones with the fewest platters, because those are faster. You can get drives at 1TB/platter for good prices now, and SSDs are getting cheaper and more efficient every year.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Buying mid-range and upgrading to the latest mid-range hardware when it comes out is cheaper than buying the most expensive thing and waiting, it also results in you having a better computer at any given time. Those parts could last you for 3 years before you'll see a reason to upgrade, maybe longer, the only thing you might possibly need more of before then is storage space, unless you decide to go for a 1440p screen, multiple screens or 3D glasses.

EDIT: vvvv yeah, I almost forgot about that. Don't worry too much about seating the CPU, those things are tougher than they look. As for the paste, the cooling in the box comes with paste that applies as you place it. If you feel the need to replace the paste, then just open a window, brush it off both plates with q-tips dipped in alcohol, then just put a little ball the size of a green pea on the CPU's plate, place the cooling on top, twist it a bit, then fasten.

Great Joe fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jan 20, 2014

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Zooming affects images, too, y'know.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

It's like seeing games run at 60FPS but better, if you can force them to do that all the time.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

crestfallen posted:

Common recommendations include the Steelcase LEAP or Herman Miller Aeron or one of its descendants.

Don't cheap out though. A good chair will do wonders for comfort and posture and can last a long, long time.

The names are pretty similar, but yeah, the Steelcase Leap has quite a rep. It doesn't look like much and initially doesn't feel as soft as a lot of other chairs, but it'll fix your posture whether you like it or not.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

^^Fabric chairs can lose support really quickly, and they damage more easily.

Ciaphas posted:

I can't search Amazon from here but I believe there is a Steelcase Leap v2 that's come out in the last year or so? Might also be worth considering.

Yeah, I didn't know about that one. It's at the same price and everything.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Not for someone who's 6'9, but I'd ask Steelcase if any of their chairs are made for people your height.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Zedd posted:

I used to have an 8800Gt for 5 years, that card owned. :3:

I have a 560ti for 3 years now, and while it's a pretty sweet card its so loving loud under full load that it annoys me, so I don't max out most games since I don't care for looks over comfort.
Please tell me cards got less noisey, I'd love to upgrade but not if it gets me another wind-turbine.

Yes and no. While idle, they're quieter, while under load they're louder. At least when you compare stock cooling. You might wanna look into custom cooling cards like the Gigabyte 760 OC Windforce. It's a bit quieter than your card.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Sab669 posted:

I'm on an i7

Depending on when you bought it, it could be outdated.

  • Locked thread