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Pay less attention to wattage, which can and will be inflated by the manufacturer, and more attention to buying a quality brand. Any modern power supply from a good manufacturer should be fine. Enermax, Antec and Seasonic are a few I've heard good things about. People way more knowledgeable than me break it down in this thread as well: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3371605&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post385432145

Also an OEM copy of Windows 7 can be had for about $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=windows_7-_-32-116-754-_-Product

OEM is their system builder license, basically it means you won't get access to tech support directly from Microsoft as you would buying a regular retail license. Technically the licenses states it's only for use by system builders who intend to sell to a third party, but practically that's a non-issue. It's a bit of a gray area but I get the feeling Microsoft doesn't care much.

As for activations and major hardware upgrades, hard drives, video cards and things like that should be fine, but when you get to the point where you upgrade to a new motherboard in the future, you may have to buy another license. I haven't gone through that with my OEM Windows 7 license yet. I know in the past with XP I was able to get away with keeping the same license through two motherboards and three hard drives, I'd just have to call in every time I reinstalled the OS and get a new activation code. Windows 7 is probably more strict now though.

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This was posted over in the Amnesia thread. Amnesia: The Dark Descent is a fairly small but promising example of a really well done and PC exclusive title that's had success recently. Every PC gamer should buy this game and support this awesome developer, if nothing else for the emphasized section of this quote from their website:

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http://frictionalgames.blogspot.com/2011/01/four-months-after-amnesias-release.html

Sales
Let's start with what I guess people are most interested in - sales. When counting all online sales as well a the Russian retail copies, we have now sold almost 200, 000 units! This is a tremendous amount and more than we ever thought we would. Our "dream estimates" before release was something around 100k, and to be able to double that feels insane.

Note that more than half of these units have been sold at a discounted price (with as much has 75% of the price off), so the total earnings are not as much as it first sounds. Still, we are in incredible good financial situation right now. Also, the daily sales are still quite high and the average has not dropped below 200 units yet. This means that we can still pay all daily costs from these sales alone, allowing us to invest the other earnings into the future (for outsourcing, PR, etc). It also gives us a healthy buffer and allow us to manage any unexpected happenings the future might hold.

With these figures at hand, we must confess that it gives us new confidence for the PC. The sales that we have had (and are having) are more than enough to motivate developing a game with the PC as the main (and even only) platform. Based on what we have seen, the online PC market is just getting bigger and bigger, and we are convinced we are far from the end of this growth. We think that other developers that consider making their game exclusive to a console might want to think again.
I love these guys for this, hopefully their optimism isn't unfounded!

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I think Steam is sort of doing to the PC gaming market what Itunes did to the music industry. They're proving that given the option, most people will pay for quality games when you make it convenient and REASONABLY PRICED (Steam sales). The companies that wail about piracy, develop draconian DRM measures, and drag their feet rather than adapting to the new realities of the marketplace will get left behind while more forward thinking companies like Valve continue to grow.

Of course there are some major differences between the two industries, but there are also some similarities in the idea of digital distribution of the product, and I really hope all developers and publishers in the industry are paying attention to what Steam's doing. I think they have to at this point really.

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Taffer posted:

Are you suggesting that the music industry was dying and that iTunes fixed it? What? :psyduck:
Not at all, that's why I was careful to put lots of qualifiers in my (uninformed) statement. Also no one said anything about the PC games market dying.

The analogy was more about digital distribution. Companies that try to ignore the fact that people WILL download music and games (the RIAA, many software publishers) and spend all their time fighting against the tyranny of the .mp3 format (sorry, I don't have an analogy for software here), rather than recognizing that people are going to use the internet to download stuff no matter what they try to do about it, are going to be left behind while companies that actually adapt (Valve with Steam and Apple with Itunes) basically come in and take over.

The RIAA bitched about declining sales and piracy ever since Napster, and probably before that, but rather than acknowledging it as a reality and adapting, they spent most of their time and money filing lawsuits against children and adding FBI warning stickers to audio CDs.

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Manac0r posted:

The joys of pc gaming...


poo poo those guys are so right I'm just gonna go play my Xbo

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Oh I figured as much, it's all in good fun! I just couldn't resist.

I was surprised to see that strip is recent, but then I went to the Penny Arcade site, and it's apparently the result of one of them having to struggle to get some Crossfire setup running... on a LAPTOP. Yeah cry me a river Gabe/Tycho!

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Captain Rufus posted:

Anything major I need to know switching back? How is Windows 7 with XP and 9x titles? If its not good, can I easily set up partitions with other OSes then? 640 gigs HD is way more than I will ever use. I don't pirate and I rarely have multiple games going because if I go to a different game I tend to leave the old one alone so long I have to start over. (Not looking forward to trying to play through the entire original Neverwinter Nights solo campaigns..)
Copout answer I know, but it really depends on what games you're talking about. All of the older games I've ran into problems with I've found easy workarounds for, with the exception of... Worms Armageddon. And I didn't really try very hard with that one. My advice would be to Google what games you think you'll be playing and see if any unsolvable issues with running these in Windows 7 pop up.

Dual booting is something I haven't felt the need to do, but it's supposedly not difficult. Also you'll be surprised at how fast you can fill up a 640 GB drive, think about it before you dedicate a chunk of it to an OS you may not need to use. I have a 640GB drive myself, the only partitioning I did was to split it in half and use one partition for my OS and installed applications, and the other for just "general files"(porn). Both are about 3/4 of the way full currently.
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Node posted:

The KillerNIC? Is the increase in your experience as big as the upgrade to an x-fi sound card?


Oh yeah well Bigfootnetworks has TWO graphs to show you what's up. Yeah that's right



As you can plainly see onboard NICs just FREAK THE gently caress OUT because they have to go through a maze to get to your game. The killer NIC just jetpacks right over that bullshit and bangs your sister :viggo:

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There's a good headphones thread in A/V Arena too: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2387142

May not be obvious as to where it's hiding, I know I had to search a bit to find it.

Kilometers Davis posted:

I love my Sennheiser 555s for literally everything. Sure they're not 7.1 pure gaming surround sound elite pro level but they're Sennheiser HD555s.
I just ordered a pair of these to replace my HD497s. The HD497s sound fine but were never very comfortable, and I figured it was about time to switch to a more full-size set of headphones anyway, since that's what I use on my PC 90% of the time.

Everything I've read about the HD555s has said they're very comfortable, and I really hope so because I've had no luck so far with finding a set of comfortable headphones. My ears/head are shaped funny or something, I don't know.

SpartanIV posted:

Just build your own 5.1 headphones like I did :smug:
OK that's pretty cool. How long did that take you?

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Taffer posted:

They're great headphones, but they were extremely uncomfortable, to me at least. They grip your head like a vise, to the point where I would literally have a headache after 30 minutes of wearing them. Great sound, but not worth the pain. I had to take them back and get a different set of headphones.
Ahhh gently caress, that doesn't sound good :(

That's the problem I've had with other sets of larger headphones, they just crush my ears. If I have problems with these then I just give up.

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Taffer posted:

I should have been a little more specific, they don't actually crush your ears. Like brainwrinkle said, they're circumaural. But they press on your entire head. of course everyones head size and preference is different so you might actually like it, but just giving you a fair warning. I have a pretty big head, so maybe that's it. :(
And maybe I have gigantic ears, I don't know. Because I've tried headphones that are circumaural before, and so far none of them have fit around my ears right, they still get smashed in and uncomfortable.

Either way the new pair should get here next week sometime so I will report back!

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brainwrinkle posted:

I own a pair of HD555s and I think they're the most comfortable headphones I've ever owned, so opinions vary. They're circumaural so they rest around your ears, not on them. If they grip your head too tightly, leave them on a stack of books slightly larger than your head to break them in.
My HD555s came in today and oh god they're awesome. These actually fit completely AROUND my ears like they're supposed to, I don't know what's wrong with the others I've tried but they never did.

I can see why someone would say that they're tight, but they're so much better than what I've been using that I don't think it's going to be an issue for me. I'll see what they're like after a couple hours but I can already tell these are going to be the most comfortable I've used. The only issue I have so far is they come with that gigantic 1/4" plug, and the included adapter to turn it into a normal-sized plug is bulky, making the whole thing too big to fit all the way into my speaker's headphone jack (it's recessed a little bit). Not a huge deal though because I can just plug it into the sound card, which is probably better anyway.

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The problem I had with desktop mics is they tend to get in the way and get knocked over, so just take that into consideration. After hassling with one for about a year, I finally went and got this headset, and I'm glad I did. It's not a comfortable set and you could definitely find better, but for the price the sound is decent and the mic quality is good.

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The Flying Milton posted:

Heatsets are terrible.

I clip one of these onto my HD555s and it's awesome.
This is a great idea, I've never thought of doing that. I think I'll order that one, now that I have HD555s my headset feels even more uncomfortable in comparison.

Der Luftwaffle posted:

I just picked up Halo 2 PC on a whim and haha god this game is terrible. I loved Halo CE for the PC and played it to death, but somehow this has worse graphics, gameplay and...well everything.

What a miserable port. But it did produce this gem:

:effort:
Wow that's amazing. I can't tell if that's a joke or an overt "gently caress you PC gamers, here's what we think of all your 'settings' and 'customizations'". Maybe a little of both!

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Monster w21 Faces posted:

Devs should keep making zombie games until someone gets it right.
I'm still waiting for someone to make a Grand Theft Auto-style free roaming survival horror game with zombies. And Dead Rising doesn't count! The first was console-exclusive, and from what I saw of it they locked you in a shopping mall, put you up against a timer, and gave you 5 minute long unskippable cutscenes.

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zachol posted:

Spend the extra grand on something else. Or save it.
If you really want to throw money at computer hardware, I'd recommend going crazy with the monitor or computer case. These are things that will most likely stick around the longest. I've had the same beige ATX mid-tower case for 8 years. If I'd have known it'd be around so long, I'd have spent extra for a really nice aluminum one, but it was the first computer I put together and I just picked something cheaper, not thinking ahead too far. Turns out that this case was one of the things I put the least amount of effort into picking out, but ended up being the component that outlasted everything else, and I've had to deal with its quirks every time I upgrade.

And monitors tend to last a few years as well, from my experience. You'll have to be staring at them for this whole time period, so it may be worth it to spend extra.

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Blackula69 posted:

One thing I hate is computer cases that look like computers - no, I don't need 16 blue LEDs, thank you very much. I used to have my desktop in my living room, so I wanted something that would look cool but be unobtrusive. I bought this (in white) and it rules: http://www.xoxide.com/auzentech-gmc-toast-case-black.html. So yo u don't really need to go overboard for a nice case, either.
Yeah I definitely didn't mean something gaudy, I was thinking more along the lines of Lian Li cases, something that looks nice but more importantly is durable, has good airflow, and is easy to work with.

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Those giant heads sure would make an easy target.

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Devil Wears Wings posted:



Yup, an honest-to-god flight sim. Hope you're prepared to shell out sixty bucks though.
This looks insanely detailed and realistic. The trailer was all rendered in game according to the devs. The guys in the flight sim thread are speaking pretty highly of it too.

I'm really tempted on this but I haven't played a flight sim in forever, and don't even have a basic joystick. The Warthog is just such a cool aircraft.

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Devil Wears Wings posted:

The reason I mention it, though, is because the deal also includes Ice-Pick Lodge's Pathologic for just $2.99.
How does GamersGate do their digital downloads? What kind of DRM do they use, and how big a hassle is it? I'm really interested in grabbing Pathologic, it looks like the kind of game I'd love.

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cheesetriangles posted:

Gamersgate gives you a little .exe to run that downloads the game and installs it like a normal game. The .exe requires you to login to prevent you from passing it around. Each game has its own litte .exe. Very non intrusive and doesn't require you install any special program like Steam does.
Excellent thanks! Definitely getting this then.

Speaking of our pals in the Eastern Bloc and adjacent... whatever your posting may be like, you guys sure know how to make some unique and awesome PC games, so you're A-OK with me! Carry on comrade! :ussr:

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I've had one of the Saitek Eclipse keyboards for a couple years now, those seem like decent, simple keyboards for the $40-60 range. I like the feel of the keys, they're sturdy but not loud, and the overall construction is really solid. The only issue I've seen so far is the labels on some of the keys have started to wear off (mostly just WASD).

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If the G9 is anything like the G5, my biggest complaint on the G5 was the mouse wheel was really hard to click and use as another button. It was just really soft, and clicking it would inevitably cause it to scroll up or down, which would cause problems in some games. Other than that and the bulkiness though, it was a decent mouse, I used it until it wore out. I have a Razer Deathadder now that I like much better.

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Lurchibles posted:

Chapter 2 was just drawn out with the constant swamp trips. 3 was a lot more action packed and half the length, whereas chapter 4 just flies by.

Also 80 hours to do everything? Has anyone actually done that? If so, was it worth it?
Steam says I put 72 hours in, I don't imagine that's too far off. I generally only play a game once, but I play pretty slowly, I try to talk to everyone and see everything. I didn't end up doing every single thing, but I think what really contributed to the time was the 3rd (I think) level where you reach the main city, and you have to solve that convoluted mystery plot. I spent so much time just wandering around trying to find the people I needed to talk to, until I broke down and looked up some walkthroughs. I didn't mind the swamp level nearly as much as that part, I had to take long breaks in between playing because it got really tedious. Also I think I had a week off from work when I played, and wasn't playing World of Warcraft at the time. Everything's relative once you've put any amount of time into WoW...

It did wear on me towards the end though, in the last act I skipped whatever sidequests there were because I just wanted to finish the main storyline. I could have easily hit 80 hours if I wasn't getting tired of it by then.

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Creepy Goat posted:

Went a Googling to seeif LA Noire had a scheduled PC release, alas it does not.
LA Noire and Heavy Rain have been the only things to make me want a console lately, it's a shame that they'll probably stay exclusive. I don't have any desire to kill all console infidels or anything, I just can't justify buying another system for a couple games.

I love the big budget story driven cinematic games like this though, I don't care how cheesy they end up being. I played through Indigo Prophecy all the way and (mostly) loved it! It just seems like the PC has been missing out on these kinds of games lately.

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Jetsetlemming posted:

He's actually expressed disappointment by RAGE's console focus, because they started development back when the consoles were new and shiny and now PCs are a million times faster in every way and getting faster all the time. He's sighing wistfully at SSDs and 16GB of memory and real video cards.
This E3 interview was posted in the Rage thread and he talks about that really candidly. It sounds promising for any future games, he mentions wanting to develop primarily on PCs and then porting rather than doing what they did for Rage. Hopefully that will be the case.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/306236/news/id-softwares-john-carmack-20-minute-video-interview/

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Liberatore posted:

gently caress lamps. gently caress illuminated keys. Why do you have to look at the keyboard anyway?


(Same sentiment as the post above)
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I guess I'll have to put electrical tape over the little lights above the numpad though UGH

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Fag Boy Jim posted:

Sadly, the only model they make these days is the 2.1 (and a slightly pointless wireless version), but it's a fantastic 2.1 system if that's what you're looking for.
Did the newer ones fix the issue with the DIN plug on the sub being really cheap and causing sound issues? I've had a set of Klipsch 2.1s for years now and they sound great, but I've had to deal with crackling and speakers cutting out because of that. The problem is the plug doesn't make a very good connection, and if it's bumped or moved at all it can cause issues. You can find a lot of people online who say theirs ended up breaking completely, thankfully that hasn't happened to me yet. I folded the cord back and secured it with zip ties, that's helped a bit but I like to put my feet up on it, and I have to be really careful to keep it from getting bumped or shoved against the wall.

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Sosiz posted:

What is this? A new Duke Nukem game or something?
http://www.dukenukemreloaded.com/index.html
Duke Nukem 3D reloaded? If this is a complete overhaul to the original game my god that could be amazing.

Assuming of course 3DRealms doesn't axe the project, or it doesn't turn into vaporware like Black Mesa Source. I don't know if 3DR still own all the IP to Duke Nukem, but they've been pretty strict about shutting down projects like that in the past.

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Fiction posted:

I just bought a Razer DeathAdder. Have I made a terrible mistake?
I've had one of these for several months now and really like it. I wanted a good quality but normal mouse without buttons all over it. The buttons on the side do feel a little cheap, but seem sturdy enough. The mouse is really light but I like that. I switched from a Logitech G5 that was wearing out, and didn't realize how bulky that one was.

My only real complaint about the Deathadder that I've never seen mentioned is the little logo on the body that lights up and fades out, it's really dumb and when I leave my computer on all night it's bright as poo poo and I have to throw a shirt over it or something.

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I can understand the appeal of headsets, I always hated desk mics and it's nice to have something specifically for communication. The problem is, as has already been discussed, they're going to be way overpriced for what you get. Unless you're willing to drop a chunk of money, you're going to have to deal with bad sound, cheap design, or both.

I bought a pair like these and used them for a few months, if you buy online you can find them for under $40, they're always "on sale" on Amazon lately. They were fairly sturdy and sounded OK, but I found them really uncomfortable: http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-GameCom-Open-Ear-Gaming-Headset/dp/B001KUSXXU

I switched to a clipon Zalman mic when I bought my pair of Senheisser HD555s and am never going back.

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Charles Martel posted:

Yeah, get a widescreen LCD monitor. They aren't as expensive as they used to be, and the difference will be substantial. Even hit up eBay if you have to. If you fancy a certain make or model (Dell, Asus, and Samsung are good in my experience), you can usually find a mint condition one for far less than the brand new price tag.
If you're a member of a Costco or Sam's Club or one of those other warehouse stores, you might want to check out their monitor selection as well. A couple years ago I got a very decent 20" Samsung from a Costco for a good price, and avoided shipping costs.

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uncle jimbo posted:

I need a new keyboard, are there any goony as poo poo GAMING KEYBOARDS that are actually worth the money or should I just go buy a cheapass microsoft one or w/e
I've had a Saitek Eclipse for years now and I really like it. It's built really sturdy and the only signs of wear are on the keys (mostly WASD) where the letters are starting to rub off a little. It may not qualify as a hardcore :pcgaming: keyboard though, it doesn't have any stupid gimmicky buttons on it, the only non-standard keys are 4 buttons above the numpad for volume and backlight controls.

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Elrond Hubbard posted:

Anyone got some good programs or gadgets for monitoring CPU and GPU temperature? I used to have a good free gadget, but it doesn't work with my new graphics card.
HWMonitor should be what you need. It's a small program with a nice and clean interface as well.

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This might also be a better question for another thread, but does total PSU wattage still mean as little as I was led to believe when I researched my computer upgrade about 3 years ago? My understanding was that manufacturers, especially lovely ones, will inflate the total wattage, and the thing you really want to look for is how much output it's pushing on the 12V rails, because that's what your CPU and video card will mainly be drawing on, if I remember correctly. Does this still apply?

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I try to refresh myself on these every once in a while, the general shortcuts pretty much apply to all Windows OSes. Most of them I don't have use for but I've learned a few tricks actually (who would have thought the Microsoft Help menu could actually be helpful): http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Keyboard-shortcuts

I find myself using the Windows key quite a lot, especially the already mentioned Win+R and Win+D.

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I've had the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1s for years and love the sound, but have had so many problems with the lovely speaker cables they came with. There's also a common problem with the DIN plug in the back that plugs into the sub, people have had theirs actually break off because it's so cheaply built. Mine hasn't done that, but I just have to be careful not to push the sub back against the wall too far or the speakers will start to cut out. If I weren't lazy and actually knew something about speaker wiring I could probably rewire it all, but as it is I've put up with it because I really do like the speakers. I just wish they hadn't skimped so much on these issues.

Maybe they've fixed it since then, it's probably been about 10 years since I picked these up (they were also $200 at the time). The fact that they've lasted this long is a good sign I suppose.

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Desk mics can get knocked over and just generally get in the way too, nobody really ever brings that up.

NOBEARD posted:

I bought the Zalman ZM-1 mic. It clips on the headset cord and is cheap. Under 10 dollars if I remember right.

Sound is above medicore, it's more than good enough for ventrilo/skyp/stuff.
I went this route as a compromise, I clip this onto my HD555s. The mic sound isn't as good as the Plantronics headset I used to use, but it's much more comfortable. Headsets definitely have their use, but the ones I've used have all been horribly uncomfortable, especially compared to a good set of headphones.

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The Gunslinger posted:

What's hilarious is that he still trolls old pc gaming messageboards, deflecting blame for his entire career on everyone else and passing judgment on the industry at large. Every once in awhile he'll start raging on Bluesnews and my sense of nostalgia is almost overwhelming.
It's kind of comforting to have a constant like him in the world. In a time where John Romero's trash talking is ancient history and companies like 3DRealms have gone under, Derek Smart is still out there being Derek Smart. Derek Smart

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kri kri posted:

Do you not play games because they are on steam?
If it were SteamPowered by EA I know I would definitely think twice before buying a game that required Steam to run.

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