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Ariong posted:If it's any consolation, they're worth it even at full price. Yeah it turns out I did purchase them last time but I hadn't actually reinstalled NV since then so blah blah blah I am stupid.
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McKracken posted:So this post in the before I play thread convinced me to give the game a second chance on the PC after quitting halfway through a few years back on my PS3 copy due to frustration over it crashing so frequently. Running FOMM will bring up a list of all the .ESM and .ESP files in your data folder. The vanilla game and DLCs will be .ESM (master) files, where as mods can be either .ESM or .ESP (plugin) files. These determine what data gets used in game; files at the top of the list are loaded first, where as files further down will add or modify data from files earlier in the load order; this is why some files are dependent on others - they want to modify something that exists in the required file, and can't do so if it isn't already loaded. This will lead to a crash at startup. FOMM uses check boxes to determine which of these will actually be loaded. As long as the box is checked, the game will make use of the mod. You could also use the same functionality to disable official DLC. Your load order will be pretty short, so you won't really need BOSS unless you start adding more mods. For now, it should look something like this: FalloutNV.ESM ClassicPack.ESM MercenaryPack.ESM TribalPack.ESM CaravanPack.ESM DeadMoney.ESM HonestHearts.ESM OldWorldBlues.ESM LonesomeRoad.ESM GunRunnersArsenal.ESM jsawyer.ESP LOOT.ESP (?) I haven't used LOOT, so I'm not familiar with its files... it might me named differently or even be an .ESM, in which case it will have to go above JSawyer. FOMM will force this anyway if that's the case, since .ESMs are always loaded before any .ESPs. If you haven't purchased all the official DLC though, you won't be able to use JSawyer since it requires all of it. It won't work otherwise, so if you haven't bought the DLC and don't want to, either leave jsawyer.esp unchecked in FOMM or just delete it outright. I don't remember if FOMM will autodetect the proper .EXE, but if you have problems with things blatantly being hosed up once you launch, there is a settings button in FOMM which includes a tab for the game where you can set game and mod directories, as well as a custom launch command box where you can point it to the 4gb .exe. Hobo on Fire fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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McKracken posted:So this post in the before I play thread convinced me to give the game a second chance on the PC after quitting halfway through a few years back on my PS3 copy due to frustration over it crashing so frequently. That's why people recommend Mod Organizer over FOMM-FORK / NMM. Anyways. 1) Install the mods you want to run, activate all of them, close FOMM. 2) Navigate to your Loot folder and run loot.exe Let it sort your mods, apply, close loot. This is now your load order, no need to run FOMM ever again unless you want to add mods, in which case you go back to step 1) 3) Find the FNV4gb.exe in your New Vegas root folder and run that. Somewhere on your PC is a loadorder.txt file or something, that's where the game, WryeBash and your mod manager of choice get's the load order info from. Your mod manager is only required for mod installation, it's not necessary to launch the game through it once your load order is all set. I'm not on my windows PC right now but that should be about all that is to it. If you need more help, just post here. Sensenmann fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Oct 20, 2014 08:39
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 Well I disabled WME and it looks like the weapon mods from WMX aren't working either. I have absolutely no idea what the problem could be and I don't want to keep playing until I fix it. I've gotten rid of any excess plugins, so that's not the problem. The only other thing I can think to do is rip out and reinstall of the mods, and I rather don't want to do that.
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Ariong posted:
Care to post your current loadorder? Does Loot throw any errors when you run it? What happens when you run TES5Edit? I'm not sure how FOMM handles archive invalidation since I only use FOMM-FORK for UI mods but if there is no ArchiveInvalidationInvalidated!.bsa in your data folder this might be part of the problem. Do you use a Bashed Patch?
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Thanks guys, that was really helpful. Last minor question: If at some point in the middle of my play though I want to replace fellout with Nevada Skies or add texture/lighting/effects mods do I have to worry about that messing with save files or stability?
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You can never be sure with Fallout, but I'd feel comfortable enough changing those out midstream. Check their respective readmes to see if they do anything on character creation or whatever, if not, knock yourself out. Just make sure to do a hard save in an interior cell as a safety measure and you'll probably be fine. Speaking of saves, I'm seeing mod orders posted lately without CASM and those are bad mod orders. Get it. Best mod ever.
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I've only done like patch mods uh there are a lot of mods between this and skyrim holy gently caress
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So I've got all the mods playing nice, added a couple other since the problem was me being an idiot instead of mod conflicts, but now I have a separate problem. Specifically I can't get archive invalidation to stick regardless of what I try. Windows 7, not in C/Program Files(x86), etc, I've tried writing the AI bsas directly into the inis but no luck on that either. E: Fixed it I think. Mmmm, no I somehow made it worse because now every five or six minutes all the textures in the game freak the hell out and peoples heads implode. Orv fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Orv posted:So I've got all the mods playing nice, added a couple other since the problem was me being an idiot instead of mod conflicts, but now I have a separate problem. Specifically I can't get archive invalidation to stick regardless of what I try. Windows 7, not in C/Program Files(x86), etc, I've tried writing the AI bsas directly into the inis but no luck on that either. How many mods do you have installed total? You may have hit your mod limit, which is not always the same # for everyone, but when you do a bunch of really random and odd glitches will start happening frequently.
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Naky posted:How many mods do you have installed total? You may have hit your mod limit, which is not always the same # for everyone, but when you do a bunch of really random and odd glitches will start happening frequently. Only 22, and the texture thing was an ENB issue it turns out, and I'm not overly upset about my entire game not being a washed out hellhole, so I think I'm finally ready to actually play a video game. Bethesda! 
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I'm happy to say that uninstalling and reinstalling everything was a painless process since I had the foresight to keep copies of all the mods I downloaded, and WME is now fully functional! Turns out I forgot WMEVE, and also probably installed them in the wrong order. Obviously this means a new problem has come up, but it's not as big. The FAQ in the MCM readme recommends searching Data\menus\prefabs\includes_StartMenu.xml and Data\menus\options\start_menu.xml for duplicate <include src="MCM\MCM.xml"/> lines, but there's 1 in the former and 0 in the latter.  This one I have no idea. I've gotta say, I like this modding thing. It's fun seeing what doesn't work and why. Only time it's frustrating is when you run out of things to try.
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Ariong posted:
The Darn UI warning is because another mod is hiding or overwriting its start_menu.xml file. Reinstalling DarnUI or, if you're using MO, hiding any conflicting start menu entries will help. You're also using Unified HUD, I take it? Switch to UIO - UI Organizer and this problem should just go away. You'll need to disable uHud once you install UIO. If you're using MO, this should be a trivial switch. Orv posted:Specifically I can't get archive invalidation to stick regardless of what I try. Windows 7, not in C/Program Files(x86), etc, I've tried writing the AI bsas directly into the inis but no luck on that either. Which mod manager are you using? It should be handling this for you. If you're not using one, check out SRB's Mod Organizer setup for FNV for a good intro to MO. v1ld fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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quote:The Darn UI warning is because another mod is hiding or overwriting its start_menu.xml file. Reinstalling DarnUI or, if you're using MO, hiding any conflicting start menu entries will help. I don't know what MO is. I reinstalled DarnUI and now am getting this message.  As well as this one.  v1ld posted:You're also using Unified HUD, I take it? Switch to UIO - UI Organizer and this problem should just go away. You'll need to disable uHud once you install UIO. If you're using MO, this should be a trivial switch. I uninstalled it. At least, I tried to. EDIT: Installed the unified HUD project, that took care of it. Ariong fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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Oct 21, 2014 02:30
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http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/56312/ New Vegas Redesigned 3 is back. Anyone familiar with it know what changed? Was he just removing the other guy's stuff?
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CJacobs posted:http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/56312/ Seems like it still requires FCO, so I'm not sure what's different yet. EDIT: Found a changelog in the comments: Dracomies posted:Version 2.8 There's also this: Dracomies posted:If I could do one thing, I wanted to thank everyone here. ThaumPenguin fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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Oct 21, 2014 12:08
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ThaumPenguin posted:-Changed Colonel Hsu to have more Asian features I've been looking for a way to make NV more racist, this sounds great!
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CJacobs posted:http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/56312/ Found the changelog: code:
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MariusLecter posted:This music mod is pretty interesting, http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57216/ I really wish these weren't replacers, they're pretty good, but I like the original soundtrack as well.
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TTW question. I've been wandering Union Station for 20 minutes or more. I think I started the reactor. Now what the hell do I do?
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Never mind. Looked it and found a video on YouTube. Stupid breakers.
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posh spaz posted:I've been looking for a way to make NV more racist, this sounds great! To be completely fair, Asians looked seriously goddamn terrible in both FO3, and F:NV, and Hsu in particular looked nothing like his portrait. All other justified criticisms of the dude aside, that's one change I'm not against.
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Old Boot posted:To be completely fair, Asians looked seriously goddamn terrible in both FO3, and F:NV, and Hsu in particular looked nothing like his portrait. All other justified criticisms of the dude aside, that's one change I'm not against. Dude looks mixed-race to me. I doubt you can maintain Asian racial purity in America post-apocalypse. Plus his first name is James. Plus plus his voice actor is white, so I'm not sure why that crazy modder didn't just change him to caucasian. If that modder was really committed, he would've re-recorded all Hsu's lines with a "Me so solly!" accent. posh spaz fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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IS the version on the left the original, and the version on the right the modded version? If so, it looks pretty good to me.
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 Col. Hsu looks like this in the concept art so I'd say that he was always supposed to look more traditionally asian than in the final game.
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CJacobs posted:
Is concept art generally considered "more canon" than the finished product? I've never heard of that before now.
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posh spaz posted:Is concept art generally considered "more canon" than the finished product? I've never heard of that before now. No it's not but I'm just saying that calling the guy racist for making an asian person not be a generic character gen white man is stupid. You really don't have to grasp wildly for things to be offended at. Really you don't, it's true! Making Johnson Nash not be black anymore is a perfectly good example of a bad thing in the mod. This is not. edit: Rephrased my post cause it came out differently than I intended it CJacobs fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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^^^ This. And I've known a few Asian men with Americanized first names, with voices that would be difficult to tell apart from J. Random White Dude, soooo...? I'm not really sure where the 'plus'es are coming from, there. But, please, do go on.  As has been said: go after what's already there. Attacking this is honestly kind of silly, considering, again, how Asians look in the Gamebryo engine, which is basically 'warmed over dogshit' in the best of circumstances. Now, if you were talking about how stupid those eyebrows look, that'd be another story.
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posh spaz posted:Is concept art generally considered "more canon" than the finished product? I've never heard of that before now. It is when pretty much every character in the finished product looks bad.
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Yet another gameplay overhaul mod that looks kinda decent skimming through the changelog. Probably not going to install this over my Cirosan/Jsawyer combo next time I play, though.
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So what texture packs do people here prefer? My current setup is NMC medium with Poco Bueno overwriting parts of it.
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CJacobs posted:Making Johnson Nash not be black anymore is a perfectly good example of a bad thing in the mod. This is not. I really don't see how making Johnson Nash white is different from making James Hsu look cartoonishly Asian. Both of those changes are based on stereotypes of what certain people "should" look like. Besides, it's not like the modder made Hsu look anything at all like his concept art anyway.
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posh spaz posted:I really don't see how making Johnson Nash white is different from making James Hsu look cartoonishly Asian. Both of those changes are based on stereotypes of what certain people "should" look like. Besides, it's not like the modder made Hsu look anything at all like his concept art anyway. That's what Asians look like. People from Asia. Also apart from the eyebrows it looks almost exactly like the concept art. posh spaz posted:Is concept art generally considered "more canon" than the finished product? I've never heard of that before now. I'd say it is if the reason is engine limitations. It's hard to make a face that looks good in Gamebryo. That guy who remade Hsu probably spent loving weeks making that. SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:That's what Asians look like. People from Asia. Also apart from the eyebrows it looks almost exactly like the concept art. A fair amount don't look like stereotypes, in fact and also James Hsu is almost certainly not 'from' Asia in that he was likely born in California, as were several generations of his parents, and unless they kept the family stock fairly segregated, probably has some other cultures mixed in there.
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this is the stupidest loving argument. correct stupidest, i dont care
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JawKnee posted:A fair amount don't look like stereotypes, in fact Does someone have the game installed so we can get a DNA swab from Hsu? Time to nip this poo poo in the bud.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Does someone have the game installed so we can get a DNA swab from Hsu? Time to nip this poo poo in the bud. Someone needs to make a mod where you can take DNA from everyone and get their exact genetic makeup.
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