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Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


You won't be able to use a Memory Stick on Vita, sorry. Sony kneejerked and made a proprietary Memory Card that only works with Vita and Sony-approved programs/the PS3 because everyone used Memory Sticks for piracy or some stupid poo poo.

Scyron posted:

Not to keep a derail, but has a price been set yet? Is it possible this memory will be combined like 2x 16gig micro SD like current psps?

I think I can stuff my content into 16gigs, as I do have 6gigs free on my phone, if need be.

Sony Japan priced all 4 Memory Cards at their TGS showing.

Memory Card 4GB: ¥2,200 ($28 USD)
Memory Card 8GB: ¥3,200 ($41 USD)
Memory Card 16GB: ¥5,500 ($71 USD)
Memory Card 32GB: ¥9,500 ($123 USD)

The Japanese are paying a lot more though for their PS Vita stuff than we are. The North American Wi-Fi Vita costs $250 but it's $325 in Japan. They're paying roughly $80 for games, but GameStop's pegged at $40

So those Memory Cards will probably be cheaper when it comes out in the West.

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Scyron
Aug 27, 2005
I mudcrabs

Policenaut posted:

You won't be able to use a Memory Stick on Vita, sorry. Sony kneejerked and made a proprietary Memory Card that only works with Vita and Sony-approved programs/the PS3 because everyone used Memory Sticks for piracy or some stupid poo poo.


Sony Japan priced all 4 Memory Cards at their TGS showing.

Memory Card 4GB: ¥2,200 ($28 USD)
Memory Card 8GB: ¥3,200 ($41 USD)
Memory Card 16GB: ¥5,500 ($71 USD)
Memory Card 32GB: ¥9,500 ($123 USD)

The Japanese are paying a lot more though for their PS Vita stuff than we are. The North American Wi-Fi Vita costs $250 but it's $325 in Japan. They're paying roughly $80 for games, but GameStop's pegged at $40

So those Memory Cards will probably be cheaper when it comes out in the West.

I knew it wouldn't use the same card but if I can get 16-32 for about $30-60 then I think it is fair.

In other news, I still need to grow a pair and buy Half minute hero off PSN.

Death Priest
Jun 24, 2004


The quick conversion rule is to divide the japanese price by 100 and that's roughly what you'll pay in USD. I expect the 16 GB will be around 60$ and the 32 at around 100$.

Level Slide
Jan 4, 2011

It'll work out somehow.

How much of a story mode does Grand Knights History have?

NINbuntu 64
Feb 10, 2007



Policenaut posted:

You won't be able to use a Memory Stick on Vita, sorry. Sony kneejerked and made a proprietary Memory Card that only works with Vita and Sony-approved programs/the PS3 because everyone used Memory Sticks for piracy or some stupid poo poo.

Seriously? I have like three memory sticks here. That sucks.

Arcaeris
Mar 15, 2006


Death Priest posted:

The quick conversion rule is to divide the japanese price by 100 and that's roughly what you'll pay in USD. I expect the 16 GB will be around 60$ and the 32 at around 100$.

Maybe in the 1990s. Right now there's a huge price disparity between the two. Right now 1 dollar is only 76 yen.

These days, if something is made and sold in both places, it will be cheaper here than your rule. There's no way in hell a 32 GB card is going to be $123 when the Vita comes to the US market. Same as at the current conversion rate, the Vita is $250 and yet it's $325 over there (in yen).

If it's made over there and has to be imported, it will be way more. Like why a 3000 yen points card is like $50.

I still have a 10,000 yen card to redeem. I was going to save it for Tales of Graces F and Tales of Xillia costumes, but I might save it for Vita games.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 16, 2004



Policenaut posted:

You won't be able to use a Memory Stick on Vita, sorry. Sony kneejerked and made a proprietary Memory Card that only works with Vita and Sony-approved programs/the PS3 because everyone used Memory Sticks for piracy or some stupid poo poo.

How much do you want to bet that within a year someone will make a reader to use those memory cards on your PC anyways?

Sir Unimaginative
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars




I wouldn't be surprised if it was here by the time the Vita drops Stateside.

Hacking Sony stuff is a way of life for some people.

Wamdoodle
May 15, 2007


Sir Unimaginative posted:


Hacking anything is a way of life for some people.

Fixed that for you.

In a way, I'd like to see what could be done with the hardware opened up but more than likely it would just lead to piracy and publishers not wanting to waste their time with a heavily pirated system that's fighting an uphill battle with a heavyweight competitor. (See PSP and DS)

AngryCaterpillar
Feb 1, 2007

When will this hatred end?


Piracy is intrinsically not a good thing. Being given a reasonable amount of freedom with your system is. As stated above, illegitimate stuff just undermines legitimate support for the ecosystem.

fivegears4reverse
Apr 4, 2007
I'll shill for anything if I like it enough!

Wamdoodle posted:

Fixed that for you.

In a way, I'd like to see what could be done with the hardware opened up but more than likely it would just lead to piracy and publishers not wanting to waste their time with a heavily pirated system that's fighting an uphill battle with a heavyweight competitor. (See PSP and DS)

I think it's funny that there's still a question as to what will happen on the Vita the moment it gets hacked. People will be running emulators and figuring out how to download roms within days. Especially after the PSN debacle, it's become cool all over again for people to use their rage against 'the evil empire' to do things that they hope will harm it in some way.

Not all hackers are pirates, but a lot effort is made by some hackers in order to help enable those activities.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



Level Slide posted:

How much of a story mode does Grand Knights History have?
None.

The game is divided up into offline and online, rather than single-player and multi-player. Offline mode is all about training up squads of troops to be used in the online mode: You take them around a map fulfilling quests, killing enemies and upgrading the squad. After a set amount of turns has passed you transfer them onto the online mode, which is a big risk-style map where you fight for your chosen kingdom against players from the other two kingdoms. I'm not sure whether the war is constant or resets after one side 'wins' but that's the real meat of the game.

Wamdoodle
May 15, 2007


AngryCaterpillar posted:

Piracy is intrinsically not a good thing. Being given a reasonable amount of freedom with your system is. As stated above, illegitimate stuff just undermines legitimate support for the ecosystem.

You have to take the good with the bad, I guess. Nothing to do right now except wait and see what happens. Still pretty pumped for the Vita release, though.

NINbuntu 64
Feb 10, 2007



Wamdoodle posted:

You have to take the good with the bad, I guess. Nothing to do right now except wait and see what happens. Still pretty pumped for the Vita release, though.

It'll probably be hacked for homebrew and piracy within a month. That's not so much a slam against Sony's security practices as much as it is a "compliment" to how motivated people are in getting homebrew and pirated software to run on these things.

RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS
Dec 21, 2010


It took years with the PS3 and even now they haven't cracked the latest keys, so why are you so sure of this?

Incidentally, the PSPgo runs CFW now, right? Can you get a good deal on one anywhere? Like, sub-$100?

RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS fucked around with this message at Sep 25, 2011 around 01:52

XionPi
May 8, 2006

Oh God get it off me!

RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS posted:

It took years with the PS3 and even now they haven't cracked the latest keys, so why are you so sure of this?

Incidentally, the PSPgo runs CFW now, right? Can you get a good deal on one anywhere? Like, sub-$100?

Hacking portables usually has more desirable purposes than the home consoles (as far as homebrew goes, that is). Portable emulators are a wonderful dream made into reality. Running those same emulators on a console when your PC is likely nearby just makes you ask "why bother?". Sure, there may be some enjoyment to be had from making that console an all-in-one device, but it doesn't compare to taking the entire SNES library on a bus.

Then there's hacking in order to enable piracy, where all gaming devices have equal priority.

Sir Unimaginative
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars




RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS posted:

It took years with the PS3 and even now they haven't cracked the latest keys, so why are you so sure of this?

Because A) they'll be p. drat sure of their security without any uncontrolled devices involved, and B) if Nintendo and Apple aren't TOTAL retards, by the time Sony realizes homebrew is Something They Might Want To Address, they'll be forced to focus on performance over security.

quote:

Incidentally, the PSPgo runs CFW now, right? Can you get a good deal on one anywhere? Like, sub-$100?

Not quite yet, and it's mostly because you're not alone. (I have no idea why Gamestop prices new ones at $200 and used ones at $110 - new can be had from Amazon for like $165.)

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 16, 2004



Pierson posted:

None.

The game is divided up into offline and online, rather than single-player and multi-player. Offline mode is all about training up squads of troops to be used in the online mode: You take them around a map fulfilling quests, killing enemies and upgrading the squad. After a set amount of turns has passed you transfer them onto the online mode, which is a big risk-style map where you fight for your chosen kingdom against players from the other two kingdoms. I'm not sure whether the war is constant or resets after one side 'wins' but that's the real meat of the game.

So, in other words, this game will be impossible to play properly a month after release?

RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS
Dec 21, 2010


Xion314 posted:

Hacking portables usually has more desirable purposes than the home consoles (as far as homebrew goes, that is). Portable emulators are a wonderful dream made into reality. Running those same emulators on a console when your PC is likely nearby just makes you ask "why bother?". Sure, there may be some enjoyment to be had from making that console an all-in-one device, but it doesn't compare to taking the entire SNES library on a bus.

Then there's hacking in order to enable piracy, where all gaming devices have equal priority.

The huge software scene for Wii and Xbox with emulators would suggest that in fact a lot of people would like to play emulated games on consoles.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title

RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS posted:

Incidentally, the PSPgo runs CFW now, right? Can you get a good deal on one anywhere? Like, sub-$100?

You missed out on the best window to be buying a PSP Go, Staples for example cleared their stock out for $99 each a few months back. If you can find a brick and mortar retailer with some left you might get lucky, but it looks like most places have managed to clear theirs out.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Okay, this is a bit of a leap of faith but we might have something here.



"The closure of that story is only the beginning of a new one."

Sega of America just put this up on their Facebook as a teaser for a game coming out in the West. On other forums, some people have made the claim that this font and the color it uses is familiar to another certain Sega game: Valkyria Chronicles 3

Now I don't want there to be any hype getting just quite yet. It could be something like the recently trademarked Yakuza: Dead Souls (Ryu ga Gotoku OF THE END) or maybe something else that's entirely new, but I'm reading quite a few people going "Hey VC3!"

So there's that. Get hype for... something!

tooooooo bad
Jun 27, 2009

bad post bad post bad post

It does look identical to the font on the VC3 box.



Really don't know what Sega is doing anymore but sure why not. Maybe I should go back and try to actually buy VC2 from PSN again. Every time I tried around when it was released the store spit out some error at me.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010


What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?


^^^PLEASE BE TRUE, PLEASE BE TRUE, PLEASE BE TRUE!!!

Policenaut posted:

Okay, this is a bit of a leap of faith but we might have something here.



"The closure of that story is only the beginning of a new one."

Sega of America just put this up on their Facebook as a teaser for a game coming out in the West. On other forums, some people have made the claim that this font and the color it uses is familiar to another certain Sega game: Valkyria Chronicles 3

Now I don't want there to be any hype getting just quite yet. It could be something like the recently trademarked Yakuza: Dead Souls (Ryu ga Gotoku OF THE END) or maybe something else that's entirely new, but I'm reading quite a few people going "Hey VC3!"

So there's that. Get hype for... something!

I would love VC3, probably my most wanted console game right now, but the quote reminds me of Yakuza series creator Toshihiro Nagoshi's remarks about OF THE END being a turning point for the series before a more serious reboot to the series core design.

Fumaofthelake
Dec 30, 2004

Is it handsome in here, or is it just me?

After playing Persona 2 a bit more I'm pretty pleased with it. Soundtrack is really nice so long as you fore go the lovely built in speakers and use headphones, and it's not as tedious as I remember Persona 1/2 being on PSX. I feel like it's almost too easy though, which seems like a strange issue for a Persona game.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

VC3 english would be rad and I would rebuy the game.

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.


Pureauthor posted:

VC3 english would be rad and I would rebuy the game.

I would buy it for the first time and I sort of hate you if you can understand enough japanese to be able to play it properly. VC2 was amazing, probably my most played game last/this year along with peace walker.

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

Don't fuck with me or I'll ditch this thread.
I mean it!

loving Trails in the Sky. I'm walking around some house in Bose and get stuck against a bed by a lady walking around in there. It's been 90 minutes since I last saved since I haven't been doing much fighting and I am STUCK being raped by some lady in a house against her bed and all I can do is talk to her and hear about how worried she is about the string of robberies. This is pretty much the first time in this game I've run into any sort of bug. Hell, even back in the NES Final Fantasies, they let you push around people in case they got you stuck somewhere.

So I have the game saved and I'm wondering if anyone knows if there's any kind of work around for this. I tried hitting every button on the PSP and even combos to see if there might be some weird debug menu to just get me out of the house but no-go. Otherwise, I'm just going to wait for another night when I feel like making the effort to redo the last 90 minutes of play.

Admiral H. Curtiss
May 11, 2010

I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.


On the one hand, yeah that sucks. On the other hand, why would you not save for 90 minutes in a game that allows you to save anywhere?

You might be able to find some cwcheat/freecheat/etc. PSP homebrew plugin and use that to maybe get out, but apart from that I can't think of anything.

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

Don't fuck with me or I'll ditch this thread.
I mean it!

Yeah, I just gave in and started from my old save and resolved to save more often.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010



The PSP Street is out in the UK! I know because I bought one at the weekend, replacing my worn out and dying PSP-3000; the guy at the counter breathlessly reassured me that it would do absolutely everything my old 3000 did. He kind of forgot to mention (and I straight-out forgot) 'hey by the way it has no wireless', so given I still use my WLAN switch I had to take it back today.

... which is a shame, because otherwise I love the design they've got on it. It's a little chunky - about halfway between the fat and the slim - but that makes it easier to hold, in my opinion. It's also got a matte finish on the body rather than a gloss, which felt a thousand times better and actually felt for the first time like I had a decent grip on the thing. The battery is a fixed block that I couldn't figure out how to remove, which seems like it's asking for trouble, but for £89 it looked like a solid little unit.

e: The Radiant Red 3000 I ended up with at the end of the day was £50 cheaper than a black one, and I think I'm seeing why. This thing is pretty clearly hot pink.

Stelas fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2011 around 21:52

Wendell
May 11, 2003



All right, so Valkyria Chronicles 2 and its DLC are available as a bundle for $22.49 on the PSN. Up to this point Valkyria Chronicles 2 alone has been something like $40, so this is a nice deal. It seems you get it even cheaper if you happen to be a PS+ member.

I mean, I now have the game and 22 DLC things. That's pretty cool.

Admiral H. Curtiss
May 11, 2010

I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.


Is there a slightly cheaper option for the game only? I already have the DLC, but I wouldn't mind buying a digital copy of the game so I eventually could use it on the Vita.

Wendell
May 11, 2003



I just checked for you and the game by itself is still $39.99.

This bundle is a great deal for someone like me, but I guess if you already own a UMD version/all the DLC it isn't ideal!

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nurse?

Thanks for the heads up! I balked on the first sale because I still haven't beat VC1, but for this price I may as well have the portable version I'm actually more likely to play.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004



I got my PSP 3000 about a month and a half ago, charged it to 100%, turned it off, and haven't touched it till today. It had 0% charge. Is that normal?

Wendell
May 11, 2003



I don't know if it's normal, but it's what mine does too. Sort of annoying. And yes, I shut it all the way off.

XionPi
May 8, 2006

Oh God get it off me!

It drains no matter what due to the internal timer, just very slowly. If you just put it in sleep mode, it probably lasts 1-3 weeks. Completely off: about a 1-1.5 months it seems.

sentrygun
Dec 29, 2009

FUCKIN
ASSHOLE


Yeah, if you plan on not using it for a good while just remove the battery so it doesn't drain.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nurse?

Wendell posted:

All right, so Valkyria Chronicles 2 and its DLC are available as a bundle for $22.49 on the PSN. Up to this point Valkyria Chronicles 2 alone has been something like $40, so this is a nice deal. It seems you get it even cheaper if you happen to be a PS+ member.

I mean, I now have the game and 22 DLC things. That's pretty cool.
poo poo, it's all only $13.50 if you're on PSN+.

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Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004



Cool, thanks just curious.

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