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Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


I am looking forward to this series, is it only going to be 12 or is there a chance for additional seasons or is that the only kind of thing we can only figure out after it's aired and the ratings come out?

Oh and my brain is tripping on the art style, both the crayon-sketchbook manga-ish design and the Sayanara Sensei direct cranial vicaden injections. /Not an Art student so I don't know the proper words.

Any bets on that giant tower in the distance being a/the Evil Doom Tower of Evilness? It looks suspiciously tall.

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at Jan 10, 2011 around 18:12

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Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


FrantzX posted:

The end of the battle, with Mami and that cup of tea, was the most thing I have every seen a 9th grade girl do.


I fully agree, that made my day.

DrSunshine posted:

Hey, it really does! With the "trial benefits" like telepathy, and the demonstration and all. All of a sudden this magical girl comes into their lives and introduces them to a lot of things, and makes it seem like all sparkles and glamor. It really does seem like some kind of scheme!

The references to Faust, the music, the magical effects, the mysteries, all of this is very very interesting.

Oh god why am I so interested in a sparkly witches show for adult men??

EDIT: 2)Holy crap, THAT'S a Witch? I was expecting some Soul Eater looking weirdo in a hat!

3) Yeah!! Giant magical guns! Rock!!

Okay! My mind is made up. I think I will watch this show.


2) I was very surprised as I was expecting the same, and I am pleasantly surprised. I would've been fine with it but this is new and interesting.

Now, bets on whether this is a deconstruction or a reconstruction or both of the genre?

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2011 around 18:27

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Nanoha I feel has the same level of 'badass' though lacks the smugness or imagery.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


jonjonaug posted:

Some guy on twitter told Urobuchi that Kyubey is too suspicious. Urobuchi responded that there hasn't even been any bloodshed yet and that people should stop being mean to him.


Oh, Urobuchi.

I think I just nearly died from this!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


I think I'm going to agree with Tuxedo Catfish here, while Shaft is well being Shaft I think we're a little few steps past purely coincidence or stylistic effect here though possibly still a few steps shy of plot importance, you never know however.

Maybe a girl wished for her and her family to move up a few social rungs? From Outer Party to the Inner Party so to doublespeak?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Oh wow, this episode shooed out the clowns fast.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


House Louse posted:

I see your point, and though I can't comment on those particular series, I think there's a difference between "being grim and pseudo-deep for kicks/because we think it'll sell" and seriously examining a motif. Magical girls are usually presented as wish-fulfilment, but they're teenagers (or younger) fighting and running the risk of death, so I don't think it's pointlessly edgy or anything to examine the idea. (But there's still room for entertainment in the motif.) I mostly agree with you, by the way - it's just not my taste, nothing special - so it feels odd to be defending the series.


Well, she is only a teenager... but seriously, thinking of something that could be worth this once-in-a-lifetime possibility to do anything would be a bit tricky for most people, in my opinion. It's almost too good to use.

Depends on how detailed we could make the wishes and how many things you are allowed to shove into that breath; Immortality hands down for me, of the -does not age- variety, presumably its not going to turn you into a statue or a rock as some kind of -obviously cheap corruption of your wish- as it would want you to fight those witches.

Cuz hey, if you are immortal and thus can never die of old age you have eternity to do anything and everything you could ever want to do AND the Kyubei will turn you into some kind of kick rear end wizard or magic knight.

My guess is that the Kyubei would demand you kill witches to duel your immortality as the most straight forward way of keeping you obedient.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Damnit, I'm still in the middle of watching Fatestay Night

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Anyone else completely digging the boss subtitles with each Witch? So incredibly nostalgic, like I'm back to playing Zelda! It also serves to make the boss battles kinda scarier and more ominous. "We mean business" kind of way.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


jonjonaug posted:

A Picture

Woah, that's like seriously channeling some badass Katanagatari there!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


This episode was awesome! It even featured the obligatory magical girl on magical girl battle! It even became a three-way!

That came out wrong. :-/

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Xythar posted:

Spear-chucks is a freaking sweet rear end weapon though.

Y'know I've seen that exact weapon somewhere before...

Gauntylgrim*! Its the *exact* same weapon that elf chick uses except we haven't seen the new girl here split it into two flails yet, otherwise they're the same.

*Latest RA Salvatore Drizzt book (worth reading if your curious).

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Homura's first phase is her mysterious personality, obviously.

Clearly she wished to have control over time and space and is obviously a Time Lady.

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and no one does anything outright stupid. It's always nice to have a show where the characters don't make clearly bad decisions.

That we'ld expect young girls to make/not make anyways; thus far it hasn't seemed like bringing Muggles along to hunt witches has been that much of a drawback (the enviroments dont seem *that* dangerous) and when valued for either morale support or backup as a last-second wish doesn't seem like an egregious vacation from common sense anyways.

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I'm glad you pointed out the size bit so I don't have to worry I'm the only one who noticed it. I think I've not seen a private hospital room that big in anything, not even in Kings.

Which was an awesome show

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How can you not trust that horrible, horrible face?

Anyone else got some really big faustian vibes from from it when Sayaka made her wish with all the shadows making scary spikey shapes?

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Also, Sakuya's wish looks like it worked, but I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop .

My assumption now is that they *do* in fact work as intended more or less, otherwise what stops them from killing themselves in despair? People will only fight if there's hope.

Doesn't preclude unintended consequences but I don't think we'll be seeing "gone horribly right" or "gone horribly wrong" extremes.

The Kyubei is like a drug dealer, killing your customers is not good business (or driving them to kill themselves) so while there might be some unintended consequences its a long term thing most likely.

The boyfriend is doubtful will go Dr Strangelove on us.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


I was joking when I said the control of space and time bit, 'Time Lady' is a reference to Doctor Who, Romana and Susan Foreman.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


helopticor posted:

Why does everyone hate Kyubey? He recently helped me out with something and he seems like a pretty sweet dude.

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At the risk of being driven insane what does this mean?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


jonjonaug posted:

Here's a mediafire link

Fanart:





the top one is bad rear end.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


There was another Visual Novel by the same guy right? I think I might as well try out all of his works at this rate.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



Kyubei: She must be planning something! Watchout!


Kettle Meet Pot.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


What the crap with these episodes over in a flash!? I'm watching it, awesome stuff happens AND THEN IT ENDS what!? No way that's 20ish minutes!

drat relativity!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


I think it was either the ribbon around her neck or it was her nice hat.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Alrighty this bit on the tvtropes article for the show confuses me can someone elaborate why this is Fridge Horror?

Magical girls are powered by wishes. Mami comments to Homura on how much talent Madoka has...

I don't get it.

I mean I can think of a few things but non strike me as particularly awful.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Kyubei is officially a pimp.

The whole "Hey, you know what would be GREAT!? If you got your BESTEST FRIEND to become a Magical Girl! What d'ya say!? Huh Huh? *nudge nudge*"

Kyubei; Pimpin'...

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Could be speed based and time travel to the past is coincidence but that wouldn't be nearly as cool as time manipulation.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


The longer the thread about Madoka Magica goes on the probability of Doctor Who references approaches 1.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


McDragon posted:

Yeah, I pretty much posted that straight after watching. I think I probably meant a word other than amoral, but I can't remember what that was now. After a bit of thinking though, I've changed my mind. He's evil. Adorable, but evil.

Just thought of an excellent wish - that Kyubey has to answer all your questions truthfully, or something else along the lines of forcing him to explain stuff. He's probably got some kind of veto power though.

"Evily Affable" I think fits it perfectly, its behavior is that of an ultra polite nice cute little animal that only serves to exacerbate its creepy evilness.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


chelsea clinton posted:

I hope someone in the show asks why exactly it has to be little girls.

Maybe its because girls have that much more innocence to destroy?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


I'm certain if my stuffed bear gave me life consultations I might be open to listening when, I'm not of course busily lighting it on fire.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Nate RFB posted:

Felt like I blinked and the episode was already over.

I know right!? Not even Doctor Who has that same feeling.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


I'm hoping nothing prevents males from getting magic, be sweet to wish for immortality and putting on a robe and wizard's hat.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


GloomMouse posted:

Kyubey's going to have to get a hell of a lot more evil (or inhumanly callous) before I can get past how cute he looks.



drat you! Stop. Making Me. Go. D'awww. At the FAUSTIAN ABOMINATION!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


I always thought Anime was drawn as Western; Stateless; or Japanese as the three modes depending on the anime/or the characters, I think that I've seen, then again maybe I just have a good eye for it after all these years.


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I hope that Mami stays dead. Unless they do it just so, I think bringing her back would weaken the narrative.

I agree but I don't want to agree as I loved the Musket-kata

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I really have absolutely no idea where this show is going now. I guessed it was going to lead to conflict between the girls and Kyubey but I also thought Kyouko would be his yes man but that doesn't seem to have panned out at all. With 6 episodes still to go I have wonder where this is going to escalate. The only things seemingly left to gently caress with are Madoka's family. Maybe I'm just being dense but it's nice to have a show that feels like it could go anywhere at all.

klak-klak-klak...

The rollercoaster as only just reached the apex of the ride

I absolutely cannot wait for what happens next, Kyouko's response (outrage) pleased me and immediately made her more interesting; it added complexity to her character right there.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Welp, Japanese commercials are interesting.

And what the episode lacked in it made up for in

Holy poo poo the Kyubei blinked!

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Every single episode I have been mad that I have to wait another whole week for more. I almost wish I'd just waited until the show is over so I could marathon it, but then I guess I'd miss out on the fun speculation after every episode.

I know right!?

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Some more Sayaka fanart (spoilers)

Whats this a reference to? Or just her going crazy on us?

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at Feb 18, 2011 around 05:11

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


nielsm posted:

Encoder hosed up and there's no MORNING RESCUE
Sayaka could really have used one.


Kyoko just turned into a great character. Sayaka scares me now. And poor Madoka is just caught in the middle not knowing what to do.

Speculation: Sayaka gets herself killed in episode 9, after spending most of episode 8 turning to the dark side.

Here!

At least we got some sort of commercial this time! Give a lil' credit where its due.

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I seriously didn't think I was ever going to buy another anime. Never say never I guess.

Aye, anyone picking this up for a NA distribution? I want to buy it once its available here.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Kinda seemed like grimdark Samurai Jack.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Redcrimson posted:

gently caress, I thought I was being original. drat you internet!

Originality in *my* internets?

Oh man those web games are surreal. Though defcon I consider most surreal game ever made.

The weeks just can't pass fast enough.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


GloomMouse posted:

I guess I like it because so far it's a well done deconstruction (tvtropes) of many magical girl shows. It helps if you've seen a few "standard" magical girl shows for comparison. I'm not sure why you'd think that ADTRW would hate it though, especially since SHAFT is involved.

Yeah, my impression of ADTRW is that usually threads only get started because someone liked the series or like it enough to riff on it, so either has to be 'average', 'good', 'so bad it's good'; going through previous threads* I do not believe I have seen anyone start a thread where a consensus of people felt it was horrible show.

And yeah, grimdark deconstruction and done by Shaft that's about as close to a perfect peanut butter and jelly sandwitch in anime form that there is.

*Went back 5-8 pages checking out other shows, maybe there's more in the archives? Maybe I just haven't been around long enough.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


House Louse posted:

Wow, Mami, which surgeon did you go to?


Franken Fran?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Something wrong with the nutbladder subs? Its doing the weird cipher stuff.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Okay yeah seemed the video player had the wrong setting selected.

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TFR sperg

TFR?

And my god this episode...

went from klak-klak-klak to AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!! in 10 second flat.

drat YOU UROBUCHI!

And that word play was awesome.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


The fanart is FAST for this series.

Oh, and I guess its confirmed, "I knew it!" Homura has time travel powers. I might had been joking when I initially suggested it but I think it should still count...

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Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


Cosmo Clock 21 posted:

Yeah, there's definitely multiple fishy things going on in the scene where Madoka almost becomes a magical girl. First being the static screen then Madoka's apparent amnesia. After she runs away you can hear similarly electronic interference right beforew QB2 shows up. I wouldn't be surprised if Kyuubey had the power to do a temporary localized mindwipe to prevent Homura from spilling the beans right then and there.

I also find it strange how Homura suddenly becomes emotional all of a sudden when even during Mami's whole death spiel she was relatively stoic. I'll support the notion that Homura has attempted to stop Madoka from forming a contract in multiple timelines, but also continue to say that Madoka's wish, if she ever gets to make one in this timeline, is to send Homura back in time.


My gut assumption is that her stoicism was on the knife's edge between nihilism and despair for a while now and just finally cracked here. After dawning on Homura that she can't change this timeline either.

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