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ufarn: May 30, 2009

I think they are all stupid, sorry to say. Your rhetorics are just what you describe in the first comic.

We don't know enough about this to write anything profound except to take a chill pill, and it shows.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2011 10:17

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 15:40

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Deep Hurting posted:

On the mental health angle, it occurs to me that it might be a good place for bringing up UHC, and how if everybody had access to free mental help in the US, this sort of thing might be more easily curtailed. Just a thought... not sure how to connect the two topics succinctly, though.

In the meantime, how about this:

?

I like that one. It doesn't pass any judgment or champion a specific argument, but it seems very on point.

Maybe I'm just partial because I just finished Batman: The Animated Series.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2011 14:25

ufarn: May 30, 2009

I've seen what I think is the best comic take on the whole Arizona brouhaha:

# ¿ Jan 14, 2011 21:18

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Deep Hurting posted:

Really? Bennett had a cartoon making the same basic point that I felt was much better.

Though the message is good, the above isn't a particularly elegant or clever visual, IMO.

His use of labels is awful, and he should do something more clever than that, but I like the general gist of it.

# ¿ Jan 15, 2011 00:22

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Delta-Wye posted:

Nobody understood Vincent van Gogh while he was alive, does that make his paintings of lesser quality or the fact he was doing them kind of silly? This is a legitimately good cartoon, and you always run the risk of being misinterpreted anytime you publish something.

That's a really bad analogy. Deep Hurting has some point he wants to make with a cartoon, whereas art can just exist without any particular interpretation in mind.

(Even though a lot of high school teachers have ruined people's appreciation for art by subscribing to some Cliff's Notes TRUE ANSWERS list.)

# ¿ Jan 17, 2011 16:31

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Pope Guilty posted:

Deep Hurting also wants to be paid for it.

Well, in terms of recognition for his talent, DH also seems to have settled for something posthumous.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2011 18:10

ufarn: May 30, 2009

foobardog posted:

While showing Freud here is probably the best for recognition of the idea of psychology, considering his general lack of modern respect beyond starting the whole thing might give a little bit of a mixed message.

The guy gave some of his patients cocaine (or a similar opium) as treatment. A lot of people would sympathize with Reagan in that comic.

# ¿ Jan 20, 2011 03:03

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Deep Hurting posted:

Please name another psychiatrist who's immediately recognizable by the general public as such, on his appearance alone.

That Nick Anderson cartoon posted upthread has a caricature of Freud in it, albeit not a particularly good one.

Edit: I mean, really. Just do a GIS for "Psychiatrist" and look at how many results are patterned after Freud.

I like that people notice and appreciate the extra research and careful attention to detail I try to put in these things, but let's not get pedantic. I doubt anything ever suggested by Freud was worse than "gun down people you don't agree with."

The question is, as always, "Will the comic make the point it tries to?", and the answer to that is "No". The aforementioned comments are some of the many arguments for this.

Kaal's suggestions sounds better. Failing that, something inspired by Anger Management.

ufarn fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2011 around 03:50

# ¿ Jan 20, 2011 03:48

ufarn: May 30, 2009

There's also the redefinition of surprise sex going on by the GOP or this

# ¿ Feb 6, 2011 04:20

ufarn: May 30, 2009

I like this one:

# ¿ Feb 7, 2011 17:44

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Uh-oh, looks like someone did an amazing comic on Egypt before DH:

It's sooo bad.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2011 20:55

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Perestroika posted:

Yeah, it appears that it is pretty difficult to find a working visual metaphor for the situation in egypt. Let's see how Michael Ramirez did it, the man who already won the Pulitzer for editorial cartoons twice:

Click here for the full 640x445 image.

It is beyond me how DH still doesn't get hired.

Is that supposed to make sense?

I also noticed that The Economist has the consistently worst comic.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2011 23:56

ufarn: May 30, 2009

A comic I liked - it even had speech bubbles that worked in its favour:

# ¿ Feb 25, 2011 16:43

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Deep Hurting posted:

I'm trying to comment with this idea on the thought that, if we tax corporations and relax regulations preventing them from harming consumers, the environment, and their employees, they'll leave the state/country for a different one where they won't be subject to those taxes/regulations.

Is the idea in too poor of taste for that comment to make up for it?

Can't you replace the "corporations" by giving the guy a suit and some dollar sign cuff links instead?

Or give him a tattoo with a metaphorical motive?

# ¿ Mar 8, 2011 01:35

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Enjoy posted:

I admire your refined sensibilities

I don't share the "poor taste" sentiment, but it's not exactly new territory for TAHT.

It's up to DH to decide if it's worth going over again, but it's obviously been done before on the same site.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2011 20:02

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Nessus posted:

It's probably because domestic violence seems to be an apt metaphor for the relationship between the Union at large and multinational corporations. If the shoe fits, wear it.

The problem is that if the metaphor is apt enough, it becomes inane. Basically a dead metaphor.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2011 20:14

ufarn: May 30, 2009

How do these people have jobs?!

# ¿ Mar 13, 2011 16:28

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Is DH's site down because of the reddit traffic?

I'd imagine that it's a run-of-the-mill Wordpress blog with no caching. Sigh.

If DH or anyone else has access to the dashboard, follow this guide to set up the necessary caching, so the site can - finally - get some attention that won't ironically kill it.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2011 02:47

ufarn: May 30, 2009

You could also scrap "Joker" and just write a "J".

# ¿ Apr 22, 2011 13:08

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Slickdrac posted:

Depending on how serious he is, he'll bankrupt himself to stay in vogue

... again.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2011 18:13

ufarn: May 30, 2009

I completely forgot about that cartoon. Great job and amazing drawing. Their expressions are so dead-on.

# ¿ Apr 27, 2011 12:07

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Deep Hurting posted:

How about this:

Does anyone know what these urban obstacle courses/shooting ranges used in police cadet training are called? I couldn't come up with a query string for GIS that turned up any useful photoreference ("police firing range" just returns normal target ranges rather than the ones where you have to avoid shooting civilian dummies).

I like the concept, but using a police officer is all kinds of wrong. I know it's in the sense of "world policing", but I think it's obvious why American police officers shouldn't be used here.

# ¿ May 3, 2011 22:08

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Kloaked00 posted:

The question though is, who would fit best as the shooter? I don't think a soldier would be a good choice because it's not their fault they're over int he middle east fighting. Uncle Sam, maybe, but I don't feel he would fit e scene very well.

I think the cop works. Maybe make him a more stylized cop, with a the USA name badge a little exaggerated, and the precinct badge a American flag background with "#1" as the precinct number.

A world police could work if DH uses a particular person in the suit. But to use a general police officer is stupid.

An eagle *might* work, but it takes some good drawing not to make it cheesy.

# ¿ May 3, 2011 22:54

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Deep Hurting posted:

I think this might be a good idea, provided the irony isn't lost on too many people.

It's a cop because police cadets are the kind of people popularly associated with that type of shooting range.

I agree with this sentiment. Not being able to outdo myself is what makes this difficult sometimes.

Make the Statue look beside herself with joy, and you'll also address people's somewhat extreme reaction to the news.

# ¿ May 4, 2011 13:43

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Nothing unintelligible about that comic.

# ¿ May 12, 2011 21:28

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Grundulum posted:

How so?

Munroe doesn't adhere to the usual method of timing and punchline.

# ¿ May 23, 2011 02:28

ufarn: May 30, 2009

I don't get the point and merit of the comic on any level.

# ¿ May 24, 2011 14:32

ufarn: May 30, 2009

superjew posted:

Smoking a cigar to celebrate a baby is an old tradition, the cigar (baby) blew up in his face.

Thanks for clarifying that part, but I (still) just don't see why it's relevant to the comic.

It's personal, not political.

# ¿ May 24, 2011 14:55

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Dominion posted:

People make political cartoons about politician's sex scandals all the time.

I know how the American culture often is, but "everyone does it" was not a valid excuse, when people used Napster, and it's not a valid excuse now.

Jon Stewart and Colbert also cracked jokes about it, but I don't see the fun in making a public mockery of someone who's a woman's ex-husband and his children's father.

I'm sure the American school system works well enough to prevent his children from being bullied in school, though.

# ¿ May 24, 2011 15:55

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Deep Hurting posted:

It's not a comic. It's just a caricature that didn't turn out,

I have a real cartoon I'm working on which I'll probably have done in a day or two.

Fair enough.

# ¿ May 24, 2011 18:26

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 15:40

ufarn: May 30, 2009

AwkwardKnob posted:

DH, I really really hate corporations and I really, really love this cartoon. Thanks a million, ba-zing!

fake edit: thanks a trillion?

This should almost result in a Social Network spoof with The Koch Brothers or someone else sitting at a table with Scott Walker or someone similar, and either party says

quote:

A billion dollars isn�t cool. You know what�s cool? A TRILLION dollars.

# ¿ May 27, 2011 23:07

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