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Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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Yes, something good to watch again on Friday nights (or Saturday mornings for some of us). Bill Maher is back with a new season of Real Time.

Season 8 "recap", but mostly just a strange music video mash up thing.

Episode 198: January 14th season 9 premiere's guests:

Elizabeth Warren: Assistant to the President and Special Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

James Carville: Liberal pundit
Mike Murphy: Conservative pundit
Chrystia Freeland: Global Editor-at-large for Thomson Reuters

Martin Short: Actor, comedian, SNL alum

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Bill Maher was on Jay Leno on Jauary 11th where his most noted comments were on the 2nd amendmant and guns.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...n_n_807914.html

As usual, Maher gets a little excited and says something silly like changing the name of the NRA to "The Assassin's Lobby". TAL just doesn't have the same ring to it.

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Dudebro
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That was a pretty good episode. The most Canada talk I've heard in an episode too (forgot that Short is a Canadian). Carville is a bit too much for me. I think he's making good points, but it comes out as crazy babble.

Dudebro
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That first interview felt a bit strange. Maybe they're just really familiar with each other so there were no formalities. And I still don't know what Russell's book is about.

Next week: D.L. Hughley, Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), Ex-Canadian PM Kim Campbell , conservative journalist Will Cain.

Dudebro
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Man, Kim Campbell laid the smackdown. I thought she wasn't going to say much, but finished strong

Dudebro
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She has crazy eyes, seriously. And the producer loved cutting to her randomly too.

Dudebro
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NJersey posted:

Yea, me too. But drat would I love to motorboat those funbags of hers.

Tavis Smiley redeemed.


That was a fantastic episode just for all the crazy poo poo that happened and nice debating. If this isn't one of the best episodes of the season then we are in for a good season.

Bill did acknowledge Smiley about the treatment of women. Of course Bill doesn't think that women are treated 100% fairly here (and neither are men for that matter). They both have valid points. Democracy in the middle east is hosed from the get go if they don't have a sexual revolution. It's true though. Women's rights will follow democracy. But some countries are so far behind that it's easy to tell them to make this big jump because they look absolutely ridiculous in some respects.

I appreciate Kevin Smith just for the comedic addition and the supreme awkwardness he brought. Look how nervous he was when his dick jokes didn't exactly go over well. The look on the panel was priceless.

I agree with some points about public employee unions. In Toronto, the workers union on the Toronto Transit Commission makes a big hubbub every few years about going on strike. It's like loving clockwork. They can literally make triple collecting fares than what someone makes working at Starbucks running around and fetching coffee all day. The bus drivers can more than double what other drivers make in the next city over. The city is completely hosed when they do go on strike. They get significant rasises every time their contracts are renewed and then fares have to go up to compensate. Why? Who else is getting this kind treatment?

Then you have the teachers union in the US who can't fire idiots. You have to diddle a 10-year-old to be fired. Incompetence is not enough.

I don't agree with her about healthcare. It's not like I researched it, but I'd rather trust the guy who did a lot of his own research and wrote the book about the financial collapse and had some intelligent points to make.

Dudebro fucked around with this message at Feb 19, 2011 around 23:12

Dudebro
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I watched "The Inside Job" before the show not expecting it to be about the same thing, but it was a good primer for what most of the show's discussion was about. Disgusting, really. These executives could be targeted for assassinations and 99% of Americans would secretly be happy about it.

Dudebro
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hahaha, Tavis Smiley redeemed.

She's pretty stupid in that she seems to be towing the line so hard that she's incapable of free thought, but so are many politicians and personalities like Maher tow their line pretty hard too, but his viewers just happen to mostly agree with that line.

Dudebro
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I love Adam Carolla. He brings a different perspective to life. Sure, if you take that quote out of context it just makes him look like a racist. He tells things like they are and isn't afraid to say it. And he doesn't really agree too much with Maher as he pointed out in the video.

I think his point about MLK day is if you keep thinking how long a way we have to go then when is it okay to think there's less of a way to go? Seemingly never.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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I'd like to see a goon who grew up poorer than Carolla. Thank you, tweak, for clarifying. I agree wholeheartedly.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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IRQ posted:

Why do you think this is the case?

I don't know, that's such a complicated question. It just is? Have you ever walked into a university engineering class? How few girls are in there?

There's societal pressures too. Maybe we're unfairly pushing female norms onto young girls by giving them dolls and poo poo to play with instead of blocks or something. Is this the case? Do you know? Females are the only ones who can have babies so maybe it's something with that that pushes them towards fields that aren't like engineering and carpentry.

Dudebro
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I still think Carolla was right to poo poo on Tavis. Just because we're happy with the increasing equality doesn't mean we're going to stop the movement and it doesn't mean we can't say to some nations that you guys need to straighten up and treat women better. What was Tavis' point? That we can't tell others to improve or we can't celebrate because we're not up to his idea of equality or we're not perfect?

I just watched it again. Tavis is saying that degree doesn't matter. Don't pay a woman the same as a man or cut her head off for wronging a man. Both equally bad. Really? How can we have progress if you want to go from A to Z instead of from A to B to C to D, etc... Things don't work that way in reality.


Next week is Richard Belzer (Law & Order)
Michael Oren (Israeli ambassador to the US)
Dan Neil (WSJ columnist)
Anabelle Gurwitch (author)
Erica Williams (Center for America Progress)

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Dudebro
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I thought Ellen Page was pretty informative actually. Everything seemed awkward this week though. Things didn't really flow that well.

Dudebro
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I didn't get the sense of weirdness. He wanted to talk about mentally disabled people and promote his cause, which he did, and Bill agreed. I love that little compassionate speech that Shriver did in overtime and Bill made a great joke out of it.

Dudebro
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I can't believe the director said "Does anyone actually care about that?" when they were talking about Iowa or something (Idaho?). gently caress off. As if that's less important than the piece of art you made.

Dudebro
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That was pretty decent. I usually disagree that the interview guest is useless, but this time the comedian guy didn't add anything.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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Is it me, or does Michael Steele remind anyone of a muppet? Ed Shultz seemed like a big mouth radio host and at least he wasn't echoing what Steele said. Amy Walter seemed like the sanest one there, but didn't say too much because of the other two. If you watch Overtime, Michiu Kaku literally doesn't say a word.

oh my god, Irshad Manji is awesome.

Going to look for more of her stuff. omg, she's Canadian too

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Dudebro
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Man, I love Manji. What a great fourth chair.

I don't like how the show ditches the first guest. He comes on and then he has to sit around for 45 minutes? Odd. Why can't they just bring him on as one of the three other guests.

Dudebro
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Salam is loving insufferable. Other than that, good episode but not the best in terms of writing. I hate how salam just shakes his head at whatever the other guys would say, seemingly just out of habit.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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okay. So she's a terrible person according to you, but the points in that interview still stand. It's hard to compare her family to most American families because they're quite wealthy (she's a professor at Yale Law School and her husband is also well off.) Her kids don't hate her for their upbringing either. The way our society as a whole treats this self-esteem stuff is really unhealthy.

Dudebro
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so-so episode, but with one of the best bits of the year sandwiched in there. That was just hosed up. You can't make that poo poo up. Jane Lynch, most of us liked you way before Glee

Dudebro
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Holy poo poo, Gretchen Hamel has the most disingenuous-sounding laugh. It's like one of those fake laughs people do to get a laugh. gently caress, was it grating. She, along with the NYT guy, were pretty useless. Chris Matthews at least adds some interesting interjections.

+1 to the fanbase for Kevil Nealon though. And as always, lots of respect for Mr. Kurzweil. I hate when the most interesting guy in the room is usually the first interview and then only seen in overtime. Maybe that's why they're interesting. Because they don't lose themselves in politics.

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Dudebro
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I'll let him know that his entire life's work is now useless because you said so. He'll have no choice but to retire.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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porkfriedrice posted:

What did David Carr say during overtime that made him say "did I just say that?" I didn't quite catch it. Good show overall, it was pretty funny.

Bill was talking about how in NJ, it's not appropriate for politicians to dumbing poo poo down like saying how it's none of anyone's business whether I believe in evolution or not. It's okay in Kansas, Missouri, etc...

Carr asked him why he's ragging on Christie so much.

Bill Maher:
It's because of what I just said. I take it very personally that I got a nice public school education there and now there is a governor of that state saying things that I never imagined a governor of that state would say. Maybe it's false pride but I think New Jersey is more sophisticated than other states because I'm from there.

Carr:
I think if it's Kansas, Missouri ,no big deal, that's the dance of the low sloping foreheads, the middle places, right?

Pelosi:
It's okay. It's HBO, not TV. It's HBO.

Carr:
Did I just say that aloud?.

Dudebro
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Oh my god, Ann Coulter has such a frightening laugh. It's like robotic, disingenuous and immediately makes you uncomfortable. And it's constant. Why is it that the high-profile right wing women have this strange laugh?


Oh yeah, and I think Ann Coulter has her own groupies or they loaded up that audience with nutjobs because there's no way the average Real Time audience would be cheering and supporting Coulter and whatever points she was making.

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Dudebro
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Pretty sure the China Study is bullshit. That's what I gathered from the WW forum.

Dudebro
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I think that's the dumbest thing I've heard Dan Savage say and I'm guessing he regretted it immediately. Don't go down to the level of whomever you're against no matter how frustrating they are. Not that any respectable Republican would say that out loud.


vvvv I didn't intend any joke actually. I think there are plenty of respectable Republicans. The media tends to focus on the stupid ones.

I realize I missed a part of my post originally. I meant to say that any respectable Republican would never wish death on Democrats, but it just pertains to any type of person really.

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Dudebro
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I forget if this was in overtime, but Gellespie kept asking Bill to give up his cars and how big of a carbon footprint his show makes, which weren't really great points. "Yeah, Bill, give up BOTH your cars!" Then the lady in the middle pointed out his full leather jacket and asked him about that. He shut right the gently caress up.

Never have him on again, please. What a piece of poo poo.

Dudebro
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That episode was a good turn from last week. It was enjoyable and energetic. Next week should be good too if only for Neil De Grasse Tyson. I was thinking too it's a real shame that someone like Spitzer had to be ousted from politics for his personal mistakes. More Brian Cranston too, please.


hahaha, go watch Overtime and listen to the teapartier talk about how great America is, the land of freedom and opportunity compared to some European nations.

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Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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You mean "our" and not "are"?

Panel was crap. Michael Moore especially was insufferable. I found it amusing that he basically said the same thing about Obama that Maher said previously (1:45 in)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wx_IHQqkSI#t=103s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wx_IHQqkSI&NR=1#t=103s

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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Whoa, no posts in two weeks.

I don't remember what happened on last week's show, but this week was decent. Alan Grayson is a really funny and knowledgeable guy. He had a great little impassioned line that got a standing ovation, and I'm pretty sure he hates P.J. O'Rourke's guts. The latter, by the way, had an immensely awkward "I need porn" moment as well as some other facepalm moments. Bill should have just let him keep talking and digging that hole.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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One of the main Republican candidates is a Mormon. That is mindblowing, yet not much is being made about that. He should have been laughed off the stage at the earliest possible moment. You literally believe the origin story of Mormonism. God forbid you have the power to launch nukes and influence world politics. God loving forbid.

Is it religion that's the problem? A lot of conservatives are true believers. You can't have a straight conversation with people like that. The table for rational discussion is over here, but you're still trying to figure out how to get in the room.

Dudebro
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drat, that was a solid episode. I thought Ware was just being an Aussie, but yeah, he very well might have been drunk. Usually Cornell West is a little too pie in the sky, but he was great in this episode. He is not really effective when it's all left wingers. A surprisingly good team was made there with him and Ware.

Ron Christie, holy poo poo. You can clip up everything he said and make a Republican soundboard. It's insane. How many times did he say American citizen? United, together, etc...

I like the discussion about right wing comedians they had in overtime, but I don't think they quite got to the crux of the issue. It might have been lost in the people speaking over each other, etc...

The sexy ladies in the middle of the show wasn't a good idea. Have them at the end. It was too much of an abrupt interruption in the middle of the show that was flowing nicely. But then again so was Christie.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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Anyone watch yesterday's episode?

It was one of those uneventful, but competent shows. Good discussion but no drunken Aussie. And Ms. Wagner, wow

I love how Bill called David Patterson Fred Armisen, haha. And Patterson had a very awkward *crickets* joke.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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To be fair, those are two seemingly very sane right-wingers, Issa and Engvall. Although Engvall doesn't seem exclusively one-sided. Issa said a lot during overtime too, but it seemed like his heart was in the right place, but not his information.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
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frenton posted:

I get the feeling Common didn't even know what the allegations against Herman Cain were. Or perhaps he didn't even know who Herman Cain was.

"All I know is my gut says no to Herman Cain."

Boy, I envy Common for not having to deal with the mental pollutant that is Herman Cain. It's like never having heard of Jersey Shore. You may be ignorant about that, but good for you.

Dudebro
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What is it though? Is it that STEM fields aren't getting their fair shake from K-12 so hardly any kids are interested in it? Or is it a natural inclination for most people not to go into those fields? Honestly, everything seems to come down to questioning your educational system.

Dudebro
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Wooty posted:

It was brought up a week or three ago that high school should cover the minimum current standards of technology.

I think some level of programming should be taught to kids at a young age, like starting somewhere in elementary school. It's pretty ridiculous that every device we use is "magic" to most people.

Also, incentivizing study in STEM fields, not so sure that's a good idea. You don't want people going into full-on careers because of incentives. I'm not sure that you can really offer enough incentive for someone to study in those fields, do well, and like their career if they don't already without added incentives (to some degree). I think it's more important to have a foundation that isn't based on whatever's being done right now because it's not working as well as it should be.

Dudebro fucked around with this message at Nov 14, 2011 around 00:23

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Good god that was uncomfortable to watch at times. I guess it is awkward when you have to be confronted by someone so petty and being unable to move for ten minutes. I hope that clip becomes the stuff of TV legends.

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Dudebro
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OG KUSH BLUNTS posted:

Debbie Wassermann Schultz is that typical annoying rear end in a top hat liberal that's completely detached from reality. Ban her from the show and make Neil Tyson a permanent panel member.

What did she say on the show to make you say that?

I thought it was an average episode. The Herman Cain segment was uneventful, disappointingly. Rob Reiner was just okay and Pelosi doesn't seem right for the show.

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