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 1) I'm cool with it as long as he doesn't need serious medical attention 2) No problem, corner kick 3) Corner kick
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1) I'm sure I've seen this happen, last season maybe? Can't remember who it was but someone stayed on the pitch with an injury because there was no subs, they could barely walk. 2) no hand ball 3) Hmm. I guess I'm saying goal. Neither he nor the ball are in the area in the first place, so there's no special rules like there are for a goal kick. It's placed, he's kicked it, own goal. [edit]it is a direct free kick right? it shouldn't matter in own goals, but there's probably some funny wording somewhere that means no goals at either end can be scored directly from an indirect free kick. Hoops fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Apr 7, 2012 |
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Apr 7, 2012 00:09
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I think maybe you can't score an own goal from a freekick, indirect or not. I know if a corner ends up in an own goal somehow, it wouldn't count. I imagine a freekick is the same, so it'd be a corner.
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Apr 7, 2012 00:26
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Wikipedia saysquote:An own goal cannot be scored directly (i.e. without any other player touching the ball) from an attacking throw-in or a defending free kick (a corner kick will be awarded to the attacking team if so should happen), and under certain other circumstances, for example, directly from a corner kick. So if I'm reading it right I guess that number 3 is a corner. 1 is fine, 2 is no handball.
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Apr 7, 2012 01:47
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Lamont Cranston posted:1)If he's ok then let him stay on but have him stand somewhere. 2)No hand ball and give a corner kick. 3)Give the own goal and punch the keeper.
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Apr 7, 2012 02:34
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quote:3) It's clearly not a deliberate handball. The defender is seriously injured. So stop the game to allow him to receive treatment, and restart with a dropped ball on the goal area line, parallel to the goalline at a point nearest to where the ball was when play was stopped. It's You Are The Ref, not You Are The Mindreading Omnipotent Creature. Every ref in the world would give the penalty (to Stoke?) + probably the red, and every ref in the world would be right to give it. Come on, now.
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Apr 7, 2012 03:01
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1. Check how serious it is. If it seems minor enough, that seems fine. Though I'd rather he stand in a place that would be safest for him, even if it may lose the game for his team. And the opposition penalty box is not that place. 2. Corner. Not a deliberate handball in my opinion. 3. Corner. I'm pretty sure a player can't score an own goal off their own free kick, it has to touch another player first. But it did go out over the end line, so corner. e: Oops, didn't finish. foobardog fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 7, 2012 |
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Apr 7, 2012 03:45
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Lamont Cranston posted:
Seems pretty straightforward this week. 1) let him so long as its safe. He won't be offside unless he becomes active. 2) not deliberate,happens all the time. Corner. 3) can't score from a goal kick so has to be a corner which is a shame because it should be a goal for the plonker.
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Apr 7, 2012 09:11
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1. Stop the clock, have him looked at by the medical staff. If he's OK, let him play on. 2. Not seeing the problem here. Isn't it standard? 3. Corner kick, point and laugh at goalie.
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Apr 7, 2012 10:02
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1. No problem at all. 2. Corner. 3. Corner (own-goals may not be scored from a free kick). For the benefit of Trin, I got my promotion to Senior County Referee (level 5) here in England last marking season. Happy days :-)
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Apr 7, 2012 10:46
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Up up up the ziggurat, lickety-split. Enjoy the Cooper test.
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Apr 7, 2012 12:25
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Lamont Cranston posted:Keith Hackett posted:1) Technically, yes, the player can stand where he likes during play – unless, of course, you award a restart such as a free-kick or corner where he must be a certain distance from the ball, or at a kick-off after a goal, in which case he must be inside his own half. But you also need to consider his safety, and that of opponents – and having an immobile player in the opposition area is a risk. So call for medical attention, and make sure he is removed from the pitch. Alan Rushmore wins the shirt.
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Apr 10, 2012 03:45
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 First two seem pretty simple. Offside, drop ball. That third one is just 
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Apr 12, 2012 22:17
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I think 3 is a goal, I remember a ball deflecting off a balloon and going into the net being a goal once before, and that's pretty similar. I'm guessing it wouldn't matter that the leg is offside because its not a player really.
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Apr 12, 2012 22:26
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1. Offside. Also, book Balotelli for looking at the ref like that. 2. Stop play, drop ball. 3. Why is someone with a prosthetic leg out there in the first place? Also, gently caress it. Not offside. Unless there's a rule about players removing and lobbing parts of their gear and/or anatomy about to affect the movement of the ball or something.
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Apr 12, 2012 22:53
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Aromatic Stretch posted:I think 3 is a goal, I remember a ball deflecting off a balloon and going into the net being a goal once before Sunderland Liverpool, and that was the wrong decision
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Apr 12, 2012 23:10
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1) Oh jesus gently caress not another 'player off the pitch in an offside position is somehow affecting play' question how many different ways can they phrase the same poo poo? 2) Tell the players that there is no such offence as obstruction. 3) Seriously? A prosthetic limb fell off? gently caress it, fine. Accept that this match is being booked by Vince McMahon, so adopt the role of the heel referee, blatantly favouring one team in an evil fashion. The SFA will soon offer you a job.
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Apr 12, 2012 23:29
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Sunderland Liverpool, and that was the wrong decision I was at this match but up the other end and had no idea what had happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLyHSI3bYd0 The balloons were thrown by City fans.
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Apr 12, 2012 23:30
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5loeV-_4og Hilarious. 1) This question sure does like to make an appearance. Offside. 2) Drop ball, punch an attacking player in the face for being a dick. 3) Seriously? I'm going to say that you should stop play for inadequate kit because at this point they've obviously stopped giving the slightest semblance of a gently caress.
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Apr 12, 2012 23:39
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Lamont Cranston posted:
Keith Hackett all but confirms that the handball rule is now being interpreted as natural/unnatural position like all the idiot commentators want it to be? I guess intent was too hard to judge.
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Apr 12, 2012 23:48
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vyelkin posted:2)Drop ball 3)Don't know what to do here but I guess it's a goal since the leg is a part of the striker.
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Apr 13, 2012 00:57
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1. Offside. Free kick to defending team. The no offside on a throw-in has passed when another player touched the ball. 2. Stop the game due to serious injury, give a drop ball. I don't see a reason to wait for the keeper to make a move. 3. I'd say no goal due to outside agent. Drop ball. The real question is if the leg counts as part of the player, and I think it does not once he does not have sufficient control over it. Maybe if he was that superhero that can detach their limbs, then I'd still give no goal and a card for unsporting behavior.
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Apr 13, 2012 01:16
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If his boot comes off and the ball hits his boot then play has to be stopped right? This seems pretty much the same issue, except his safety is even more at risk if he's hopping around on one leg.
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Apr 13, 2012 01:19
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the sex ghost posted:This week's questions, with bonus Giant Dirk Kuyt Head: The goal Stands Instruct the captain to take it, if he refuses send him off. Red Card on the defender.
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Apr 13, 2012 03:11
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Brandy Alexander posted:The goal Stands Here are the answers if you don't want to wait until Monday!
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Apr 13, 2012 11:26
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the sex ghost posted:No. 132, Petr Cech: 1> Red Card for the defender. Instruct the opposition to take the penalty again. 2> Red Card 3> Goal Stands
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Apr 13, 2012 14:34
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FullLeatherJacket posted:no germans club 1>They can't just swap shirts like that while the ball is in play, Yellow card and a penalty 2>The player was sent off, Doesn't matter if he's an assistant physio or a player/manager he shouldn't be on the field anymore. 3>Abandon the game.
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Apr 13, 2012 14:42
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Brandy Alexander posted:1>They can't just swap shirts like that while the ball is in play, Yellow card and a penalty Surely 1 is a red for DOGSO?
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Apr 13, 2012 15:14
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3) You're offside if any part of your body you can legally use to touch the ball is beyond the defender so in this case: simple offside.
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Apr 13, 2012 19:55
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atomic gog posted:It's Friday! 1>Penalty Kick and a Red Card. Can't let a team have the advantage when a penalty has been commited. 2>Instruct them to change the posts, If they can't abandon the game. 3>I don't see anything wrong here. Resume play.
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Apr 14, 2012 03:41
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the sex ghost posted:It's Friday! 1>Yellow 2>Do Nothing, Report to FA 3>Corner
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Apr 14, 2012 03:51
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Brandy Alexander posted:3>Corner Why wouldn't that be a red?
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Apr 14, 2012 04:03
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ManoliIsFat posted:Why wouldn't that be a red? Why would it be a red?
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Apr 14, 2012 04:18
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denying an obvious own goal scoring opportunity
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Apr 14, 2012 04:29
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If only there were a way to find Keith Hackett's answers.
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Apr 14, 2012 04:30
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foobardog posted:3. I'd say no goal due to outside agent. Drop ball. The real question is if the leg counts as part of the player, and I think it does not once he does not have sufficient control over it. Maybe if he was that superhero that can detach their limbs, then I'd still give no goal and a card for unsporting behavior. Iraq are down 1-0 in a World Cup qualifier. At 80 minutes, manager Uday Hussein orders support staff to start surgical chainsaws on the sidelines. At the next corner, the Iraqi players hurl their severed legs at the incoming cross. One connects, putting the ball in the back of the net. What do you do?
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Apr 14, 2012 06:44
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Vagabundo posted:If only there were a way to find Keith Hackett's answers. quote:3) Award an indirect free-kick on the goal area line parallel to the goalline at a point nearest the position of the offence. The keeper has deliberately handled the ball from a direct kick from a team-mate. He's not guilty, though, of the red card offence of denying a goal because keepers are allowed to handle the ball inside their own penalty area: his offence is specific. Huh, good to know.
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Apr 14, 2012 14:01
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Hackett 3:16 - 1) Yes. The fact that he was off the field when the ball was last played is not relevant: he is considered to be on the touchline and therefore in an offside position. The moment he becomes active, you must penalise offside. 2) Not the most sporting of opponents, are they? Assuming the injury is clearly genuine, stop play and re-start with a dropped ball – which the opponents, once they have cooled down, may realise it is sensible not to contest. 3) This is expressly not a situation where you need to be thinking about offside or outside agents interfering with play. Clearly you should be treating this incident, with the striker on the ground and unable to move, as a serious injury, in exactly the same way as if it was a clash of heads. So stop play and call for medical assistance for the player, restarting with a dropped ball at a point on the six-yard line parallel to the goalline nearest to where he fell. Allow him to come back on later, if you are satisfied the false leg is secure.
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Apr 16, 2012 09:55
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Hackett basically calling all of us heartless bastards. Come on, there's no reason to not assume that dude is just chilling on one leg.
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So what if a player was injured in the act of scoring a goal, like Huntelaar in in that one game where he ended up with a mouthful of grass? The goal still counted. Does the goal still count in #3?
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