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Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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Trin Tragula posted:

Sod the giant head of Avram Grant, this is a much more interesting situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt3mLtylRq8

Sort that one out.

Was actually covered 6 months back.



Link here

Keith Hackett's answers

1) The quality of the shirt underneath is irrelevant: the law about taking off shirts during goal celebrations is precisely worded and designed to prevent crowd incitement. So book him in the usual way.
Thanks to Hugh Allen.
2) It's a red card, and a penalty. Although the ball was in play outside the area, the offence occurred inside it.
Thanks to Nicole Jennings for the question.
3) The defender has misread the situation. He thinks that, by scoring a meaningless own goal, he has saved his goalkeeper from picking up a suspension for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity. But the striker's shot seemed to be running wide – so there was no "dogso" offence to punish. There is also no such thing in law as "the last man" – it's a misleading phrase used by pundits who should be referring to "dogso" instead. If the defender hadn't intervened it would have been a penalty, but as it is, it's a goal. You should also discipline the goalkeeper with a yellow card for his reckless action in dragging the striker down.
Neil Patel wins the shirt.

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Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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Aren't we doing this anymore?



1: Notify player before kickoff, include in match report.

2: A red card should always be dealt with immediately. Stop play, send off the player and call off the match as they have less than seven players on the pitch.

3: Stop play as it's a foreign object that can cause injury. Restart with a drop ball.

Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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EvilHawk posted:

2 must be play advantage, then second yellow and sending off. It won't result in an abandoned match because IIRC it is up to the referee's discretion when to abandon the match, not necessarily after 5 red cards

No, the LOAF is very clear on that. A match will be abandoned if a team for whatever reason during the course of the match is unable to field a minimum of 7 players. The only exception is sideline treatment of injury until the player is unable to go on or resumes play.

Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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Keith Hackett posted:

1) What are you doing checking Twitter at half-time? You should be focused on preparing for the second half. But now that you've had a look and seen the message, you just need to rise above it: you cannot deal with this during the match, but you can include it in your post-match report to the authorities. Andy Courtney wins the shirt.

2) Yes – play advantage in the usual way, and once the passage of play ends, stop the game and issue the player with his second yellow, and a red. Then abandon the game and report the full facts to the authorities. Thanks to Stephen Plumer.

3) Allow the forward to continue – he hasn't committed an infringement, and so shouldn't be penalised. The defender clearly should have played on rather than trying to get you to break up the attack for him, and then handed the scissors to you the next time the ball went out of play. If anything, he has made the situation more dangerous by picking the scissors up and waving them around... Thanks to Alex Hobbs.

Odd that a potentially dangerous object shouldn't mean an instant stop in play. Was also sure that any offense that would result in a sending off should be dealt with at once, but since it's technically only a yellow it might pass.

Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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1: Goal stands.

2: Throw the LOAF at him. If it can be a danger to himself or others, demand he take it off or don't allow him to play.

3: IDFK to the defending team, goal disallowed.

Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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Frrrriday!



1: Yes. Also report to the league.

2: Yes. Don't think the LOAF covers the eventuality.

3: Check with assistants. If no one saw it the goal stands.

Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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Lazy bastards you all are...

Keith Hackett's verdict

1) Yes. Mascots aren't above the Laws. Ask him or her politely to stay away from the pitch, explaining the problem. If the bear won't budge, inform the stadium manager that he must intervene, and include it in your post-match report. Thanks to Karl Mullen.
2) Yes. While this could surely never happen on a full-size pitch, it's not completely impossible on a smaller one. A goal can legitimately be scored with a keeper's punch from inside his own area. Thanks to Adam Bryan.
3) First, make sure both players receive treatment. Second, consult with your assistants and with the fourth official. If none of you saw the incident, you cannot act on it: you don't know why both players collapsed, you don't know when it happened – was it before the ball went in, or after – and you cannot take a guess. All you can do is act on the information you have, so award the goal, restart in the normal way and report what happened to the authorities – it's a clear case for video evidence to be used after the event. Chris McManus wins the shirt.

Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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Lamont Cranston posted:



1: No goal. Restart with a drop ball from the point it hit the roof. See matches played indoors for reference.

2: Play on. Nothing in the laws to say you can't do it.

3: Offside.


Easy ones this week.

Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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the sex ghost posted:



1) Woodwork count as a separate touch so goal stands if he's onside when the ball hits the crossbar.

2) 2nd yellow/red for both.

3) Goal stands.

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Baggins
Feb 21, 2007

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aoIy89mSk8

This is a pretty good documentary about what actually goes on as far as on-pitch communication between refs and players are concerned. Takes place in Spain, so subtitles.

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