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Dudley posted:Yeah the picture is unhelpful because I wouldn't call that an open goal. It IS a clear scoring chance though, last man or no. 1. The second attacker is offside, so i don't see how there would be any advantage. Regardless, there is another defender in the pic. No red, perhaps maybe a yellow, penalty. 2. Not playable, although it would be great. 3. "Being a dick" verbage needs to be added in the laws of the game. "He was B.A.D." Yellow.
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Dudley posted:50% of professional footballers would be sent off before ever making it to the coin toss. Yeah, the match writeup would be great. Cautions: BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD .... Send offs: 2nd caution 2nd caution 2nd caution ... Comments: Uh, match abandoned?
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If we're going off of the picture that second attacker would be offside. So I don't understand where all this advantage talk is coming from. If there are other defensive players in the vicinity (goal keeper included) that have a shot at playing the ball, it's not an obvious goal scoring opportunity. If the keep would've made that takedown at the 18, he'd have been sent off. For reference, DOGSO has to meet all of the following: Distance from goal Distance from ball Direction Defenders
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Feb 28, 2011 16:52
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1. Nothing. Unless he's doing it in front of the other teams fans, which then he may need a friendly talking to. 2. Log it in match report. 3. Indirect from the closest point on the edge of the goal area.
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Mar 4, 2011 19:31
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1. Players lay their hands on the referee all the time, it's kind of a case by case basis. I'd give him a stern talkin' to, apologize, and have the injury delt with. 2. What in the hell was going on the entire time he was painting that? That poo poo probably took him 10 minutes. Anyway, as long no pertinent field lines are obscured, I'd say lets play on. 3. I don't even think jersey numbers are required, technically. Goal stands and makes him change out his jersey unless the specific league rules state otherwise.
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Mar 11, 2011 19:52
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1. Send him to the stands for being irresponsible outside the technical area. Dropped ball. 2. They got rid of the ball-going-a-full-revolution stuff a while back. The ball has to be kicked and moved. I guess it depends on whether you interpret the 'tap' as a 'kick'. It's a coin flip since we have to guess whether the dude kicked it or kinda stepped on it a bit with his foot. 3. Ball enters the goal after an offensive infraction (ball must be still during any free kick) = retake.
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Apr 1, 2011 14:59
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Mickolution posted:I don't think that's true, is it? No it's not. You can leave the field of play as part of a playing movement.
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Apr 1, 2011 16:06
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Mr. Mambo posted:1. A player can't play the ball to himself going out of play then back in. The manager should be cautioned for the collision, but it's still a foul play.  Yikes, dude.
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Apr 1, 2011 16:08
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Keith Hackett's verdict 1) If there is no advantage to be played, stop the game. First, calm the players down and issue cautions to any who overreacted. Second, tell the manager that you are sending him from the technical area, and that he will be reported to the authorities. The front line of the technical area is a metre from the touchline, specifically so that players and assistant referees can move without interference. And finally, restart with a dropped ball taken from where the ball was when you blew the whistle. Thanks to Chris McHugh. 2) Your assistant has made a mistake, and so have the defenders who chose to play to his flag, rather than to your whistle. The procedure for a corner is clear: the ball is in play once it is kicked and moves. So award the goal. Thanks to Jake Archer. 3) You could argue the conditions are the same for both sides, but the laws state that the ball must be stationary when a penalty kick is taken. If the wind is too strong for the ball to stay still, you need to consider abandoning the game. Unlike in the school playground, it's not acceptable for a colleague to hold the ball still with a finger tip... Brad Diamond wins the shirt. my verdict 
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Apr 4, 2011 14:38
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1. Yellow for the dive, IDFK to defending team. Have a chat with the attacker during your booking session and let him know how close he is to not playing any more. 2. This is a total coincidence, the thrower has turrets. Anyway, not really a lot of descriptive info, but I'm assuming they want us to take the abusive language route and send him off. Restart with the same throw. 3. I really hate this rule, but, allow the kick to proceed since the ref signaled for the kick to be taken. After the take, send both off for violent/abusive language and violent conduct, respectively. Retake the PK (with a new taker) since there were infractions from both teams.
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Apr 8, 2011 03:39
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Barbershop posted:Keith Hackett's verdict 1) It's an indirect free-kick to the defending side, and a yellow card for the striker for unsporting behaviour. There are two cautionable offences here – simulation (diving) and deliberate handball – but, while they were not simultaneous, they were effectively part of one action, so you should only show one yellow. In a situation where a second incident took place 2-3 seconds later, for instance during an advantage, you could show two yellows, then a red. Thanks to Jakob Svedbom. 2) There are two issues to address. First, send the player off for his offensive language: it does not necessarily need to be aimed at an opponent or an official for it to be a red card. Second, talk to the home team's manager and make sure the ballboys are either providing towels to both sides, or to neither. Third, make sure the boy is OK. And fourth, report what happened to the authorities after the game. Thanks to Clive Evans. 3) Play restarts with the original penalty – but neither of these players will have any part in it. Send the defender off for offensive and abusive language, and send the penalty taker off for violent conduct. The incident does not alter the way the game resumes. Michal Sosnowski wins the shirt. :2matchban:
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Apr 14, 2011 14:14
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1. They gained an advantage from using a match ball that wasn't inspected. Disallow goal, caution thrower, replace ball, retake throw. Also, punch gary neville/kit man in the face. 2. Caution substitute, IDFK. 3. Goal stands (advantage), caution defender (USB, he did not DOGSO since the goal was allowed, so there is no send off). The second handling incident was unintentional, so you still play the advantage.
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Apr 15, 2011 22:01
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I still think you could/should caution that thrower for USB if he knew about it.
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Apr 18, 2011 13:47
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1. A penalty is not in play until it has been kicked and moved forward. You can't kick with your knee. Replace him and retake. 2. Retake, ball must leave penalty area. 3. Penalty, any part of the line is the penalty area.
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Apr 22, 2011 14:57
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Also there could be more defenders behind him.
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Apr 23, 2011 18:07
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It's monday or something. 1) Your first priority is to get the medical staff on to look after the player. Then award a retake: the ball must be kicked for the effort to count, and clearly this wasn't a kick. The new penalty can be taken by another eligible nominated player. Only the goalkeeper can be substituted in a shoot-out, so the player's team is effectively down to 10 men for the rest of the process. 2) Your instinct might be that the keeper has denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity – but the ball would not have been in play until it left the penalty area. As this incident has happened inside the area, you should simply order the goal-kick to be retaken. 3) It's a penalty. Part of the ball is overlapping the penalty area line, so it's considered to be within the area. You also need to deal with defender's deliberate action. If he has denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity it's a red card, otherwise it's a yellow for unsporting behavior.
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Apr 25, 2011 20:59
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1 - Caution him for each incident and send him off for receiving a second caution. I would probably make an extra effort to point out the two situations that led to his/her sending off (a la a persistence explanation) 2- He didn't gain any advantage from the towel in making the save, corner. 3 - He/she doesn't need to be on the field to be counted towards the minimum 7 needed to play. The referee can grant any player permission to leave the field to receive treatment/fix equipment. If he needs to be carted off on a stretcher, you abandon the match. If he got knocked and needs some magic spray, you play on.
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May 13, 2011 16:54
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Bhyo posted:Ref can only order a player off the field for an injury if the physio comes on. So the player could sit there all he likes.  "Do somethin', ref."
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May 13, 2011 17:26
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It's day Keith Hackett's verdict 1) Show him two yellow cards, then a red. It's rare to play advantage after a challenge which is worth a sanction, but there are times when it is the right call to make. And if you've followed your training and communicated the decision well (signalling, shouting "play on" and making it clear to the player that the first foul was a yellow card offence), the guilty party can have no complaints. Stephen Plumer wins the shirt. 2) If you judge that the towel has aided the save, show the keeper a yellow card for unsporting behaviour and restart with an indirect free-kick on the six-yard line. The keeper's unfair action has denied an obvious goal, but it is not a red card because keepers are allowed to handle the ball inside their own penalty area. Thanks to Wendell Mac Gibbon. 3) Your instinct might be that he's trying to circumvent the laws which govern abandonments – and after four red cards you might not feel inclined to do his team any favours. But you have to stick to the laws, and, provided his injury is not so serious that staying on is putting himself in danger, allow him to remain on the pitch – standing if at all possible – and continue the match.Thanks to Stephen Plumer.
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May 16, 2011 04:18
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1) If you play advantage there was no denying of an OGSO, you do not send the first defender off. Send off the GK and give a PK. Depending on the severity of the first foul, you can still book the defender. 2) If they wanted to have a different player on the field be keeper for the shootout, I imagine he'd have to go get all his own equipment and the jersey could be different, so I don't see why the existing keeper wouldn't be allowed to change provided he's not delaying the process too much. Why he wasn't wearing his lucky color in the first place is beyond me. 3) Play on, gently caress the assistant's mam afterward (twice).
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May 20, 2011 18:31
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1) The "play on" bit indicates you were not impeded and made an informed decision on the play. Game over. 2) Ask the captain, who happens to be right in front of you, who will take the penalty. If refused (or if he thinks himself witty selects the injured dude), card him for the delay. If refused again, card him, send him off, and abandon the match. 3) Offer the chance for a substitute, document in match report.
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May 27, 2011 14:18
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1. I would love to see that match report. "Some twitter account on the internet that could be one of the players in the game I'm refereeing said this bad stuff about me." You should be discussing the game at halftime, not checking the internet. 2. Play advantage, caution and send off at the next dead ball opportunity. 3. It's a hazardous foreign object, stop play, remove the object, restart with a dropped ball. This situation probably could have been prevented if you were paying attention.
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Jun 3, 2011 14:17
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1. Goal 2. Document in match report 3. wear one of the 4 jerseys you bought 2 panels ago
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Jun 10, 2011 16:25
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1. If it properly padded, he can play. 2. Goal, Caution for unsporting behavior. 3. Stop play, have the injured player attended to/removed, restart with dropped ball.
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Aug 19, 2011 19:02
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xK1 posted:Isn't the handball rule only for "deliberate" handling? Since it specifically says that the catch was "instinctive" (despite there probably being no way to tell in a real case) this is almost certainly no penalty. How would the ref go about determining the player's intent in this case?
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Aug 21, 2011 03:18
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No, the referee is not supposed to vocalize, hint at, or suggest in any way. They usually do anyway a la 'don't be a oval office' law. What if the keeper turned around and slammed the goal kick off the post and sent it into play that way? Would you call it differently? The ref is part of the field of play. It's lovely, but you always have the option to signal to a kick taker to wait for your whistle.
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1. He's SOL and will have 10 players the rest of the match. 2. I'm assuming he's trying to pull a fast one here. There is normal time and extra time. You can still use a substitute in extra time and this makes him a valid penalty taker during kicks from the mark. 3. You do not blow your whistle because the assistant has not raised his flag. Let the play develop, if it ends in a result advantageous to the attackers(goal, corner, etc), have a talk with your linesman before play restarts to determine if the attacker was offside.
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Oct 28, 2011 16:39
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Transatlantic Gulp posted:You're being far too pedantic over the wording, it's clearly not referring to a player coming on in extra time as everyone knows that'd be fine. If it bothers you that much, consider it an equivalent to the comedy option of punching neville in the face.
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Oct 28, 2011 18:28
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1) A KFTPM is still live until the ball has been stopped, crossed the goal line, or has moved a 'reasonable distance' from the goal. Goal. 2) The keeper's head ends up inches from a striker's boot about 347896 times a game. Play on. 3) You can probably make the argument that this was intentional, and then file it under unsporting behavior. Caution, IDFK on the goal area.
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Nov 18, 2011 18:47
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1. Red 2. If the ball is dead, he can enter from anywhere. Since he waited until ball was in play, he now has to enter from the touchline. Caution him, IDFK from the six. 3. Let him take the kick. Goal: caution, retake. No goal: caution, IDFK.
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Keith Hackett's verdict 1) You cannot let an intimidating atmosphere put you off applying the laws in a consistent and fair way. Show the courage of your convictions, trust the police and stewards, and send the captain off. If it provokes serious trouble in the crowd you have the option of abandoning the game. Either way, report everything that happened to the authorities. Thanks to Mick Whyte. 2) He's trying to be clever, but he hasn't read the Laws. He is allowed to return to the field of play on your signal from any position – including from behind the goalline – when the ball is out of play. But when it's in play, he can only return from the touchline. So disallow the goal, caution the player for re-entering the field of play without permission, and re-start with an indirect free-kick from where the ball was when play was stopped. Christopher McQuade wins the shirt. 3) No. It's clearly unsporting behaviour: show him a yellow card, making it very clear that a penalty run-up needs to be one uninterrupted movement. Restart with the original penalty kick. Thanks to Jon Pople.
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1) Probably something involving sending him out anyway and maybe abandoning the match. I wish they wouldn't waste space with these type of situations. 2) Without a valid medical reason it's not part of the uniform. e: on second thought, who really gives a poo poo as long as it isn't dangerous to anyone else 3) The ball has to: A. Be kicked B. Move forward. It does not satisfy either. Retake and caution for USB.
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1) The ball never touched another player. Yes, you're an idiot (you should not even be there on a GK in the first place), but now you have to award an IDFK to the attacking team. Hopefully they'll show some sportsmanship and just knock it out of play. 2) Ask him to remove it. Document accordingly. 3) play on, document in report, blah blah
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1) It's fine. 2) Play on, caution one or both next dead ball if necessary. 3) Kick off.
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Keith Hackett's verdict 1) Your priority has to be to get the game played, for the fans, media and teams. The kit is a different colour, so there are no safety issues – but you do need to deal with the names, to reduce confusion, and the sponsor's logo, to avoid contractual problems. Your easiest solution is to have the players turn the tops inside out. Thanks to Peter Kingsnorth. 2) The fact that the away team have made progress upfield means the advantage has been taken, so the game continues, unless it was a red card offence. Treat the second incident in the normal way. You must be careful, though: applying successive advantages means you run the risk of losing control. Thanks to Tim Vogel. 3) With a kick-off to the defending side: it's an own goal. The striker has not touched the ball, so is not interfering with play. Only if you felt he had clearly distracted or deceived the defender would you penalise him for being in an offside position – but that distraction needs to be very obvious for you to take action. You are not a mind-reader. Alex Cheung wins the shirt.
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1. Send them all off, document accordingly. 2. A stern talking to. 3. Send off the player, IDFK restart.
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Feb 17, 2012 18:34
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Trin Tragula posted:The usual thing to do in the no-coin situation is "which hand is the whistle in?", which works fine as long as you remember to take it off the cord first. Show me a referee who's never done it and I'll show you a lying bastard. I like the "1 or 2 behind my back" method. And yeah, it happens to everyone. Mickolution posted:3. Send him off, of course, but then make the other team nominate an outfield player to not take a penalty, same as if it's 10 v 11 at the start of a shootout. After KFTPM has started, you don't reduce to equate. Why? Who knows.
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Mickolution posted:Not sure what the rules say, but one hand is enough during a kickout. Agger headed it out of a keeper's hand earlier in the season, but it was disallowed. There may be an issue of having the ball under control, though. Yeah, this is one of those dumb referee discretion instances. If he was standing still for 5 seconds holding the ball in the air with one hand, you'd call it back. If he had the ball pinned between one hand and the ground, you'd call it back. Hell, even if he bounces the ball at his feet before punting, it's still under his control. In this situation he says that the keeper 'catches the ball firmly', so I would say he's going write a couple sentences about keeper possession/control and disallow the goal.
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1. Two cautions -> Red 2. The wording is a little dumb. I read it as he's offside when the ball is kicked and is now trying to get back onside. The defender is not gaining any advantage by blocking the attacker, flag/blow the offside. 3. I would love to see him manipulate a cell phone with keeper gloves. Award him a goal for his efforts.
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