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Ahhh. Okay, gotcha on the receiver. Speakers, I'll do some more research on them  If you could clarify why wouldn't you really recommend the Pioneer's? Any specific reason?
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Newegg has a bunch of Pioneer gear on sale http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemai..._-E0-_-MoreHome VSX-821 and their budget speakers.
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ChiTownEddie posted:If you could clarify why wouldn't you really recommend the Pioneer's? Any specific reason? As long as you're on a tight budget you should consider getting used speakers. For the same money you can get better bang for your buck by going used since speakers tend to last for a long time. Granted, I haven't heard the Pioneers but as far as I've understood they're designed to be a part of home theater rather than stereo speakers. I would look elsewhere first and get back to them if no viable alternatives presented themselves. I'd also like to take this time to say that Internet is full of idiots, myself included, when it comes to hi-fi. The only important thing in the end is that you like the sound of your set. Buying blindly based on recommendations made by someone else is a pretty good way to end up disappointed. I know my own tastes and recommend based on them, you should listen around a little and get to know yours.
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If you have a local craigslist check out the electronics section for speakers. I picked up some klipsch kg 4.5's at $100 for the pair. I don`t think I could have come close to the sound buying new.
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Is this worth a grand? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-WHAR...=item19ce1c8b39
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Nierbo posted:Is this worth a grand? You mean Wharfedales in general or that particular set?
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That particular set. I've been impressed by Wharfedales I've heard at a friends house and the gym here uses a set (obviously not a 5.1, just some concert speakers) and they sound great too.
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Nierbo posted:That particular set. I've been impressed by Wharfedales I've heard at a friends house and the gym here uses a set (obviously not a 5.1, just some concert speakers) and they sound great too. That subwoofer is not impressive. Doesn't seem any better than the home theatre in a box subs. Perhaps it is build better, but a subwoofer should be able to make sub bass. IE It only goes down to 34hz. Good subwoofers go down below 20hz. 34hz is barely into the frequency that good subs are barely getting warmed up at. The center channel speaker doesn't seem all that great either. -6db at 70hz, which is a pretty misleading specification. I wonder if it even goes down to 80hz without dropping off in volume. The front speakers are also not very sensitive. You would need a pretty stout amplifier to make them get loud. A normal surround receiver isn't going to cut it. I would look at the local used market. We can offer advice on any ads you find online. jonathan fucked around with this message at Mar 7, 2012 around 06:02 |
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jonathan posted:That subwoofer is not impressive. Doesn't seem any better than the home theatre in a box subs. Perhaps it is build better, but a subwoofer should be able to make sub bass. IE It only goes down to 34hz. Good subwoofers go down below 20hz. 34hz is barely into the frequency that good subs are barely getting warmed up at.
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Everything in australia costs like a bajillion dollars for no reason. Your $1,000 doesnt seem to go far with regular "home audio" brands No matter, those brands have lovely budget offerings anyways If it was me it would be an easy decision, get a behringer b2031a or b2031p. Whats your receiver?
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Nothing at the moment. But I know that's where I need to spend the most money.
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coolskillrex remix posted:If it was me it would be an easy decision, get a behringer b2031a or b2031p. Whats your receiver?
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Nierbo posted:I can pick up a set of b2013ps for $299AUD new on ebay, so if I went this route I'd just need a receiver and a sub? I dont know the AUD markup on receivers but generally your best bet is to just buy the one that has enough hdmi inputs. I just looked up the prices and a receiver that has an msrp of about $400 USD here (meaning you can go to a bestbuy and buy it for $300) is $800-$850 AUD. Pioneer 818 is the one im looking at... What the gently caress australia
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drat that sounds pretty harsh. Maybe I should just buy the active ones and not worry about a sub. I can live without surround.
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You still need a means of adjusting the volume on the active ones remotely
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Optical out from my PS3 or TV into the behringers, and then use PS3 controller or TV remote?
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The behringers take an unbalanced or balanced signal and amplify it, they have no means of using an optical signal. What TV do you have? edit: Actually scrap that whole ebay/craigslist, what websites would you use if you were shopping for a new receiver? I dont want to sift through a bunch of ebay/craigslist listings coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at Mar 9, 2012 around 01:17 |
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Television. My post code is 2500 so the craigslist would be: http://wollongong.craigslist.com.au e: my tele is the LED version of that, but the rear connections are the same I believe. Nierbo fucked around with this message at Mar 9, 2012 around 01:24 |
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Nierbo posted:Television. My post code is 2500 so the craigslist would be: http://wollongong.craigslist.com.au Haha, that is amazing that literally no electronic listings exist I would probably just buy this if i were you http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-R...=item1c24736960 Very powerful and feature filled receiver. In US ebay takes 10% of whatever you sell for, so just offer to pay $400 cash and tell them to cancel the ebay listing to avoid final value fees. Only negative is it doesnt have 3d support, in case you were looking at 3d tvs (im guessing no). I have no idea what you should buy for your subwoofer, in the US we have a litany of internet direct companies that are pretty much the only places people buy subwoofers from anymore. Not sure if australia has anything like that coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at Mar 9, 2012 around 01:27 |
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Hah drat. Well thanks for looking. You can give me the model numbers of a few amps and I can do the leg work. I'm happy to hunt around myself. e: drat thats a sweet deal. Thanks. Nierbo fucked around with this message at Mar 9, 2012 around 01:32 |
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With that receiver you can use active or passive versions of studio monitors (it has 7.1 pre outs on the back). It has really good amps so in the future if you find good passive speakers of some type you wont need a separate amp (lets say you buy a single behringer or krk passive monitor for your center channel, or buy some surrounds of any brand) Active studio speakers are nice because they usually are bi amped and have active processing to sound a bit better than their passive versions. Here are some massive speakers that will sound really good, and the bass wont be super deep, but it will be very loud and efficien for the bass it DOES produce. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/250985899439?hlp=false What i like about those is in the US a pair will cost $1000 USD, so its a good 1:1 ratio. You arent getting bent over simply for living in australia on those. I have KRK RP6G2 on my desk and i love them. You could try buying this sub and combining it with some behringers http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wharfeda...=item19ce746dc6 However 1) the sub may be broken. Cheap old subs like this usually have amps that are faulty in one way or another, KRK makes robust studio equipment, and its new, so you know it works. 2) 2x10" woofers > 1x10" woofers coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at Mar 9, 2012 around 01:54 |
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I'm trying to convince the fiance right this second. e: Okay, she said yes. Just messaged the guy. e2: He settled on 420 for the receiver. Going up there to pick it up now. Excited! Nierbo fucked around with this message at Mar 10, 2012 around 04:08 |
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coolskillrex remix posted:Here are some massive speakers that will sound really good, and the bass wont be super deep, but it will be very loud and efficien for the bass it DOES produce. Hmm thats a bit out of my price range at the moment, but I go for a job interview on the 15th so if I get it it will be back on the table. If I don't get the job, I'll just get those behringers. I'll trust you on that and get the active version and chuck in a sub later when I get around to it. I'm only on about 10 hrs a week at work now cos the xmas rush is over so I appreciate your advice skrillex. e: By the way, is there a way to cut the bass on the behringers below like 150? Nierbo fucked around with this message at Mar 10, 2012 around 02:03 |
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Just picked up that receiver. Its in absolutely mint condition. Remote was never used aswell. That was such a great find. Thanks again coolskrillex remix. One last thing to bug you with, which of these two would be better for blurays and PS3 games? KRK Rokit 6 or The Behringers you were talking about. e: Here's a pic. What a beast. Nierbo fucked around with this message at Mar 10, 2012 around 11:45 |
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Nierbo posted:Just picked up that receiver. Its in absolutely mint condition. Remote was never used aswell. That was such a great find. Thanks again coolskrillex remix. I am not sure if you require a "bookshelf" size speaker or not. If you can live with a floor standing speaker, These Klipsch F-1's http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-x-Pair...#ht_1002wt_1344 are a good floorstanding speaker for their price. They're meant to be listened to from a distance, where the studio speakers also work well either right up close or farther away. The advantage to the Klipsch speakers is that they're much more efficient, so you can get louder sound from less wattage. Of those two studio monitor choices, the Behringer is a bit more sensitive, but the KRK's extend into the bass region more. If you're getting a subwoofer down the line, this is irrelevant. If you don't plan on getting a sub, the KRK's seem like they might be a bit better just because you will get a little bit more low frequency out of them. The Klipsch extends all the way down to 38hz, mostly due to the larger cabinet. It probably does not have a flat frequency response as the studio monitors.
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So...I was really looking forward to getting an Onkyo 609, but it turns out the fancy "design TV cabinet" other members of my, um, party are interested in is only about 9.5" high, whereas the Onkyo is about 12"... are there any alternatives (Onkyo or other) that would sound equally nice but require less space?
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Sagacity posted:So...I was really looking forward to getting an Onkyo 609, but it turns out the fancy "design TV cabinet" other members of my, um, party are interested in is only about 9.5" high, whereas the Onkyo is about 12"... are there any alternatives (Onkyo or other) that would sound equally nice but require less space? The Marantz NR1402 does Audessey MultEQ, 3d, etc and has a slim design. http://ca.marantz.com/ca/Products/P...roductId=NR1402 Thats the canadian website which means it's overpriced. Check some other sites like accessories4less and see if it's a comparable price.
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Christoff posted:Onkyo TX-NR509 I took your guys advice. A+ receiver, would buy again. In lot of respects its better then my older, more expensive Yamaha.
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jonathan posted:The Marantz NR1402 does Audessey MultEQ, 3d, etc and has a slim design.
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Sagacity posted:Ah, excellent suggestion! Thanks. It seems to tick all the relevant boxes and I've had some pretty positive experiences with Marantz in the past as well. The only downside is that it's 50watts per channel w/ 2 channels driven, and less with all channels driven. For home theatre content and 2 channel music listening, this isn't bad. If you're intending to blow the roof off your house with big sound dance floor deadmau5 music or whatever, the onkyo's do offer more power.
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jonathan posted:The only downside is that it's 50watts per channel w/ 2 channels driven, and less with all channels driven. I just want a clean sound that doesn't have to rattle the windows, especially since I'd like to combine it with relatively small speakers anyway, like the Cambridge Audio Minxes. Sagacity fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2012 around 09:35 |
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Sagacity posted:Well, I currently have a simple Logitech Z-5500 setup that I'm looking to upgrade / convert to a system with a smaller footprint. That has approx. 500W of output in total and I don't think I've ever turned it up past "3" (though it goes all the way up to 11, I'm assuming). I like to listen to stuff at regular TV-levels, instead of full-on home theater levels, I guess. I think you'll be fine, especially since I would be willing to bet that a Marantz "watt" is significantly more powerful than a Logitech "watt". Those numbers mean next to nothing since we almost never get a context for them. In this case, sources on the Internet indicate that the 505W rating for the Logitech was obtained at 10% THD(yes, ten percent!), which would be completely unlistenable, not to mention probably harmful to the speakers. Marantz' is rated as "50W (20Hz - 20kHz, 0.08% THD, 2ch driven)" which is a lot more information, and not too bad numbers either.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation! I agree it should probably a nice setup and certainly an improvement over the not-quite-audiophile quality of Logitech's stuff
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Hey Nierbo have you bought any speakers yet? I own a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 9 series you were looking at before. I've got the floorstanding 9.5 model in a stereo setup. Im using a Pioneer VSX-919AH receiver to power them. That model is probably a little below the Yamaha that you posted. There were two reasons I decided to buy just the stereo pair instead of the 5.1 set you posted. The sub is not to the quality level of the speakers and my room was too small. The 9.5s are quite good for the money in my opinion. If you are looking for a rock out party speaker it may not be my first choice but on vocals they are the best I have heard in this price range (admittedly I haven't heard that many in this price range). I've never seen a real negative review either so it couldn't be just me. After shopping around I got mine for $660 AUD. That was a few years ago, and again just for the front pair (9.5). They have been superceded by the 10 series now so you should be able to get a good deal if you do choose these.
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I'm still hunting around at the moment. I lowest I found them for was 685. Maybe I'm no good at e-shopping. Thanks for the post. I'll keep them in mind and I'm open to more suggestions aswell.
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Im about to pull the plug on my H&K AVR 3000. Its been a nice little unit and ive had H&K units for the last 15 years but I havent been real big on the Home Audio front for some time. Are there some decently priced H&K units out there? Ill be using my existing speakers which are JBL L7's for my fronts and JBL L1's for my rears. (Edit: Cant remember the name of the center or who makes it but it is nice, not klipch} center speaker which I might replace too. As a side note: Ive got an AVR 7000 sitting in the storage unit but I dont have the remote for it and apparently ou need it to setup the surround sound, Harmony remotes have no affect on this issue either. 
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The guy rang me and said he'd take 350 for the Klipsch Synergy F-1 speakers. I think I'm going to bite.
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I'm currently in the process of putting together my first home audio setup, some advice would be much appreciated! I've just moved in to a new apartment just outside Amsterdam - it's on 2 floors, the room is approx. 20' x 20', and the cinema setup is on the bottom floor so I have a downstairs neighbour. For this reason, I was considering not getting a sub and instead getting 2 good quality floor standing speakers. Is this viable? I'm starting out with the 2 fronts (and possibly a matching center) then adding to the system as money allows. I hope to end up with a 5.0 system. The system will be used for HD television, Blu-Ray movies and videogames (via a PS3), and listening to music. I listen to a lot of music, and my boyfriend is more of a movie guy, so speakers that work well for all these situations would be preferred. We are not really audiophiles, but would really like good quality sound. I purchased an Onkyo TX-NR609 yesterday, so we have the receiver covered. It may have been overkill but I got it new for what I think is a very good price (399 euros), so we just decided to grab it anyway. My budget for the 2 front speakers is around 500-600 euros for the pair, and I would put maybe an extra 200 euros on top for a good center. any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
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HampHamp posted:I've just moved in to a new apartment just outside Amsterdam - it's on 2 floors, the room is approx. 20' x 20', and the cinema setup is on the bottom floor so I have a downstairs neighbour. For this reason, I was considering not getting a sub and instead getting 2 good quality floor standing speakers. Is this viable? Sounds like a great plan! I don't have any particular recommendations for your front speakers, and I think the advice you'll get in this thread will chiefly be: Find a store that will let you listen to speakers, and check out what's available in your price range. You started at the right end by choosing a budget first!
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HampHamp posted:
Bigger is almost always better, and don't be afraid of used or vintage. Old speakers that have been taken care of put a lot of new speakers to shame.
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