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Hopefully this is the right place... I'm setting up my first home theater, and wanted some feedback on what I've been eyeballing. Finishing my basement, and I've got a small 10x14 room for a little home theater/gaming room. Its kind of small, so I don't think I have to go crazy on the speakers, but I do have it prewired for 7.1, and I'd like to have all 7 speakers for gaming. Receiver: Onkyo HT-RC360, its $40 more than the 260 recommended in the OP, has a few nicer features. Center and Fronts: Klipsch RF-42 and RC-42. I feel like its worth it to get decent center and front speakers, but anything more than this is overkill for such a small room? Ceiling and rears: I think I can go cheap here, I see monoprice has a line of in-ceiling/in-wall speakers that the avs forum seems to think don't suck. I was looking at the 6 1/2 ones, I don't think I need the 8 inch. They have a lot of different options for the 6 1/2 inch ones though, and I may have picked out ones that are overkill for surrounds. They are so drat cheap though, what the hell, about 35 apiece. Center surrounds (ceiling) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083702&p_id=4619&seq=1&format=2 Rears (wall) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083702&p_id=7607&seq=1&format=2 For the sub, that $100 polk PSW10 seems like it would do just fine. Looking at $1400 for the whole deal, if I cant find somewhere to get the Klipsch for less than MSRP. Am I crazy for mixing klipsch and monoprice speakers?
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Jul 14, 2011 01:57
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Hob_Gadling posted:
Thanks for the correction, I definitely kind of always went along with bigger=more power, instead of bigger=more fidelity. But aren't the larger speakers generally capable of handling more power from the amp, and isn't that capability a decent amount of the price difference?
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Jul 15, 2011 16:47
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_aaron posted:Any thoughts on these Infinity Classias? I know I need to listen to them (and I don't see any dealer for these anywhere around here), but wow, the specs on these blow the Klipsch rf-42's out of the water, and $230 less for all three.
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Jul 15, 2011 17:15
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_aaron posted:All three points you brought up there are why I am simultaneously excited about them but still on the fence - I just don't know where I can actually try them out. (Also, Amazon seems to have lowered their price on those speakers today: $550 for the trio) I think that's because those on Amazon are being sold by vanns. Vann's has the surrounds for sale as well, at a good price. I kind of have to have ceiling surrounds though. The sub is still $700 everywhere.
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Jul 15, 2011 18:57
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jonathan posted:How so ? The sensitivity on the Klipsch speakers are 4DB higher (You need more than double the wattage to run the Infinities). The power handling is higher. The frequency response isn't listed on the Infinities but the Klipsch are +-3DB. I doubt the Inifnity comes anywhere near that given they don't advertise it. I'm definitely a novice here, thanks for making me look up sensitivity, I had no idea that a difference of 4 in sensitivity meant so much. 91 vs 95 didn't jump out at me at all. The frequency response (response is just the range listed with the db qualification, right?) of the infinity is (±3dB): 40Hz – 30kHz; 35Hz – 40kHz (–6dB) while the klipsch is 59Hz-24KHz ± 3dB. Good point on the subwoofer cancelling out the need for the low frequencies though, but the difference in ranges seemed very significant to me? Also admit I was looking at the number of drivers - 3 woofers and 1 midrange for the infinity vs just 2 woofers for the Klipsch, although I guess that doesn't necessarily make any difference at all.
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Jul 15, 2011 19:33
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coolskillrex remix posted:For $1400 you can get ridiculously good stuff Ceiling decision was kind of forced by the room shape, its not a true rectangle, more of a cross, with little side areas. Didn't want to bury the side surrounds in there. The monoprice speakers for the ceiling 6th and 7th channels don't seem too bad a choice? I'm almost about to buy the infinity classia whole bundle, 5 speakers, for $800, and then that will leave some more dollars for a decent sub. coolskillrex remix posted:
Thanks for the input, I definitely had just been thinking "small room, I don't need a ton of power to make it all shake".
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Jul 16, 2011 23:52
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coolskillrex remix posted:Get a denon 2112 or 1712. 2112 only if you have component devices (so it can upconvert it to hdmi and have just one cable exiting receiver). call electronics expo.com and theyll give you the best price over the phone The price on the 2112 went up a bit, but they are still doing $430+19.98 shipping. $450 for that receiver did seem like a pretty good deal, got it, thanks man. Pricing out those subs -Rythmic FV12 is $619 with shipping -Epic legend is $574 -avs forum seems to like Hsu as well, their VTF-2 MK3 is $572, the STF-2 (w/o the variable switch which I think might be overkill for mostly movies/games) is $392. The STF is also just a 10 inch though, looks like its just not in the same class as the others. -And the installer I'm using wants to sell me a velodyne impact 12 for $400. Even though its a 12", the specs seem more like the 10" Hsu STF-2. Thoughts on the Hsu and Velodyne? I do kinda like the concept of the epic legend having dual 12" in parallel, and just looking around sealed seems to be nicer than ported. I'm kind of reaching a choking point on the amount of money I'm spending at this point though, haha. Its a relatively small difference compared to the total price of all the equipment I'm putting in though. If the epic legend is going to really sound a good deal better than the $400ish subwoofers, its probably worth it.
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Jul 18, 2011 18:35
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Hob_Gadling posted:You might want to read this. Pretty timely, I'm just hitting a problem with my setup where I can get everything through just fine except for 1080p. It will blink black for a few seconds once every couple minutes. 1080i and below works fine. So doesn't seem like a handshake issue between the equipment (ps3->denon 2112->sharp 70). PS3 right to tv on another cable works fine. So its either the receiver or the cable, and I think I'm just running up against the limit you want to use cheap cables. 5 foot to the receiver, 20 foot through the wall, and I had to get another 5 foot coupler. I need to get my hands on shorter cables instead of those 5 footers on either end I guess.
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Aug 16, 2011 16:55
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Haven't got everything set up perfect quite yet, but I'm pretty drat happy with the sound so far, thanks to everyone in this thread. Ended up with: Infinity Classia system for fronts/center/rear Snell OH-S7 ceiling surround Rythmik FV12 Denon 2112 I haven't wanted to really push the sub yet, but I got some games going last night and it was already ridiculous. Music is really nice with those fronts. 1080p is crapping out on me, so haven't gotten into a movie yet.... The audyssey multi EQ setup adjusted the volume for the sub really low though for some reason, or maybe I just like a lot of bass. I like the automatic EQ'ing of all the speakers, but the volume balancing/distance adjustments just seemed a bit off in general, and bad for the subwoofer.
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Aug 16, 2011 18:20
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Had a home theater setup with the aid of this thread (thanks!), but sold it with my house - was a pretty good selling point! Now I'm looking to get just a decent living room setup before doing another full blown home theater again. I just picked up the $280 newegg klipsch RW-12d subwoofer deal, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780078 (today is the last day- gogogo!), but still need everything else. The Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers look pretty good, are they still a consensus recommendation? Any other good deals out there right now? For the receiver - looks like I missed the awesome costco deal on the Pioneer SC-1522K, can't find any in my area. Would have been overkill for living room setup anyway, but I figured I could move it to the home theater when I build it out. The onkyo 709 recommended a few months ago here doesn't seem to be available anymore, at least for a reasonable price? I had a Denon AVR2112CI, which I was pretty happy with, except for the terrible documentation and interfaces - can still get it refurbed here for $350 http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR2112CI/DENON-AVR-2112CI-7.1-Integrated-Network-A/V-Surround-Receiver/1.html. But the higher/newer models seem tempting. denon 2312 (7.2) refurb for $400 http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR2312CI/DENON-AVR-2312CI-7.2-Integrated-Network-A/V-Surround-Receiver/1.html denon 2113 (4k upscaling/passthrough) open box for $525 http://shop.avscience.com/Denon-AVR-2113CI-AV-receiver-Open-Box_p_549.html Any other thoughts? I guess my range is pretty wide on the receivers, if I spend 500+ it'll go to the home theater eventually, and a cheaper one would stay upstairs. I'm not in a huge rush, I'm tempted to wait a few weeks at least and see if a really good deal comes by...
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Jul 12, 2013 02:33
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Newegg has klipsch f30s for $380/pair today, and the c20 for 150. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...ombo1391689-LC1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._-82780030-L07B Jumped on them - I was about to get the Andrew Jones, but for only $180 more for the set of 3 I think these are worth it (I hope?). Got a buddy to pick up and ship the pioneer sc1522k receiver from one of the last costcos that had them. And received the Klipsch RW12D sub already - the port tube was all loose and ratting around in the box, apparently its a common issue. There definitely wasn't near enough glue on it, looks like it was just a small smear of white stuff. AVS forums says its pretty easy to open it up and epoxy it back in really well. I'm kind of up in the air about it though, might just return and hope the 2nd one is good. So for now, feel like I got a really good 3.1 setup for about $1450. Massive overkill on the receiver, but gives me room to grow. Jonathon, you were talking about DIY speakers earlier in the thread - I'm kind of tempted to try DIY'ing these speakers at some point for the surrounds - http://www.diysoundgroup.com/os-speaker-kit.html The cabinets do look amazingly easy to put together, but I'm more worried about soldering all the electronics. Do you have any feel for that? I mean, this link looks non-trivial... http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?223751-Overnight-Sensation-Build-Two-Sets&p=1724332#post1724332
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Jul 20, 2013 21:16
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So one of the klipsch F-30's I ordered from Newegg arrived pretty beatup from OnTrac. Big hole through the box, through the plastic wrap, and dented the vinyl a bit. Newegg just shipped me a new one right away, and said OnTrac will get in touch. Couple weeks go by, I call and email Newegg a few times... OnTrac finally calls me, and the guy hassles me a bit to get me to unpack the speaker and take some close up shots of the dent. Then nothing. Its been almost two months now. Anyone have any experience with this? At what point do I just say gently caress it and sell the thing on craigslist to get it out of my hallway. Or buy another and use them as surrounds as well as fronts. Although the shape of these things makes that a little awkward! Deep and narrow.
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Sep 9, 2013 22:52
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jonathan posted:Modify/remake a front baffle and turn it into a badass horizontal center channel. Tempted! Gotta work better than the C20, and it'll actually fit in my setup if I move the tv up 3 inches or so. Maybe just throw it up there as is on its side and see how it sounds first. I guess it'll be a bit off since the horn will be to the right instead of centered directly below the tv.
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Sep 11, 2013 08:17
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I have a Pioneer Elite SC-37 receiver, and I've been searching craigslist for a newer Elite model. I can't figure out Pioneer's numbering scheme. I think the SC receivers without the Elite designation were supposed to be a step below. But they weren't missing much except the badge, a different color display, and an extra year of warranty. My SC-1522 is supposedly equivalent to the Elite SC-65. I believe the Elite SC models incremented by 10 each year (skipped the 40s?). The bigger the number in the 1s column, the more expensive. The SC-65 is 2 or 3 years newer than your SC-37, but I think the amp on yours is actually better. Actually kind of hard to beat that SC-37! But I'm in the market for a new receiver as well, need HDMI 2.1. But this thing has been so rock solid, I'm actually pondering just trying an HD Fury splitter, or an even cheaper monoprice blackbird (https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=44086). Split the video and audio from the few sources I have, and just send the audio to the old receiver. Would be a lot cheaper than buying this new onkyo -https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09D8SB7DN/. Baddog fucked around with this message at 09:37 on May 26, 2023 |
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