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Is it that hard to make a series about a guy who wears a skull on his shirt and kills criminals?
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 00:24 |
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| # ? May 26, 2013 07:23 |
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Armyman25 posted:Is it that hard to make a series about a guy who wears a skull on his shirt and kills criminals? They could literally (yes) copy The Max line from its early start with "Welcome Back, Frank" and it would make for compelling television. It just blows my mind how poorly some comicbook resources are handled. The writing and camera angles and directing are already done for you.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 00:37 |
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So is nobody going to mention how awesome Rucka's run on Punisher has been so far? Having him talk as little as possible really does work I think.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 00:47 |
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BigRed0427 posted:So is nobody going to mention how awesome Rucka's run on Punisher has been so far? Having him talk as little as possible really does work I think. Ive never been one to critique comics. I wouldn't call myself well versed in the field either, but I do know what I like and what I don't like. I can tell you that I am loving what I have seen so far and I cannot wait for more. Especially Checchetto's art. I cannot pinpoint every single thing I like about it but what I enjoy the most is the way he draws Frank. One of the things that have been stuck out to me so far are the faces Frank makes. He looks like a dude who has gone through some poo poo and come out to go in it again. Especially issue 4 he looks so beat up and it looks fantastic! I do enjoy, like you said him talking very little. It makes him seem more invincible to me. You cannot take this man down, no matter how hard you try. All in all this is for sure going to a series that I will pick up every time a new issue comes out.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 02:48 |
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TheJoker138 posted:It's like they are actively trying to destroy this character with every multimedia project they've done with him in the past 5 years. Good god. Man, not EVERY project. I really can't believe how bad of an idea this show is though.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 06:32 |
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ChairMaster posted:Man, not EVERY project. This. Look at this FOX. This is a better idea for a show than your lovely Dexter rip off. I would watch 10 seasons of intense yet childish analogy carpool Punisher with disco laser battle van before I watch one episode of your stupid, stupid bullshit
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 07:07 |
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quote: In Bernero’s proposed TV version, Castle will be a young NYPD detective who solves crimes by day and acts as vigilante by night. It sounds more like Punisher 2099, who was a cop living a double life as The Punisher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punisher_2099
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 07:14 |
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ChairMaster posted:Man, not EVERY project.  ...why did he kick them out of the car?
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 12:27 |
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I can't find it in English, but it sounds just like the old series "Dark Justice" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVBg2otAp6M
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 14:25 |
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BigRed0427 posted:
I like how even the Kiddy version of Punisher is insane too.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 17:53 |
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I'm still pissed they canned Mini Marvels for Superhero Squad.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 18:38 |
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What's all this last 5 years bullshit? Warzone was a fantastic movie.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 17:10 |
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Sion posted:What's all this last 5 years bullshit? Warzone was loving terrible, people who think it was good are also loving terrible. It was a bland action movie with nothing that makes the Punisher interesting in it. You could have given it any other title and it would have been just as "fantastic."
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 17:40 |
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Sigma-X posted:Warzone was loving terrible, people who think it was good are also loving terrible. Going to have to counterpoint I'm afraid. It was a hard R action movie that was basically a Max comic in a film. Soap was Soap, Microchip was like late-80's Microchip. It was the hard R Punisher movie that the Tom Jane movie should have been. It wasn't a character study but, honestly, the character depth of the Punisher isn't exactly waist deep. Guy's wife is dead, guy kills criminals because he is mad and sad (not in equal measures), guy is legit crazy. It was a wonderful, gory action movie and calling it bland even though it had some of the best cinematography I've seen in a hard-r action movie in a long, long time.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 18:15 |
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Movie discussion goes in the movie thread. We've had this discussion a few times already in this thread.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 19:37 |
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BigRed0427 posted:So is nobody going to mention how awesome Rucka's run on Punisher has been so far? Having him talk as little as possible really does work I think. I can't find myself giving a gently caress about anything in it, I'm afraid. Like, what's even happened in the last 4 comics? I don't really care about a cop sympathetic to the Punisher, especially one that seems to have no personal integrity. I don't care about Norah Winters diving into what makes the Punisher tick because it'd be more interesting if they just showed us what makes him tick without the convoluted plot. Morgan Freeman is a pretty forgettable character, and I don't care at all about what's ostensibly the main plot, with the mobsters who shot... someone... at a wedding... for some reason. I guess that lady's gonna became the She-Punisher, who is just like the Punisher but a lawyer or something. It's issue 4 and nothing's happened yet to make me care, and I doubt I'll be picking up another issue.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 22:48 |
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Lurdiak posted:It's issue 4 and nothing's happened yet to make me care, and I doubt I'll be picking up another issue.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 22:57 |
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Hate to say it, but I agree. It's not a bad book, but it isn't a Punisher book. Rucka's Punisher reminds me of Bloody Mary from those Candyman movies. The threat of him causes the action to happen and when you see him on camera there's a lot of violence, which is cool -- but he's not really a character. He's more like a force. Which actually sort of fits him, but I prefer a Frank Castle with some degree of characterization. Right now he's just a blank slate and there's nothing holding my interest enough to see how he develops.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2011 00:18 |
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I am really hoping that Rucka can resist making that army girl whose husband died the next Punisher or something like the Punisher.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2011 00:26 |
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I'm enjoying it but can't really pick out why. I agree that it doesn't feel like a Punisher story, but there's enough to keep me interested in buying the next issue. Add me to the list of people that don't want Cole to become the next Punisher.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2011 02:35 |
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picosecond posted:Hate to say it, but I agree. It's not a bad book, but it isn't a Punisher book. Rucka's Punisher reminds me of Bloody Mary from those Candyman movies. The threat of him causes the action to happen and when you see him on camera there's a lot of violence, which is cool -- but he's not really a character. He's more like a force. Which actually sort of fits him, but I prefer a Frank Castle with some degree of characterization. Right now he's just a blank slate and there's nothing holding my interest enough to see how he develops. I've seen stories where Punisher is treated as a force of nature that were much more interesting than this. In particular there was a MAX issue that was basically framed like a slasher flick, following the adventures of this one thug as he tries vainly to escape his certain death. You could really feel his terror and desperation the entire time, it was really well done. Here our POV characters seem to have indecision and hesitation as their primary emotions, which makes it really hard to get invested.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2011 04:03 |
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E the Shaggy posted:Fox is making a Punisher TV Show.....that is NOT the Punisher. So, Dexter then.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2011 14:26 |
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Lurdiak posted:I guess that lady's gonna became the She-Punisher, who is just like the Punisher but a lawyer or something. It's issue 4 and nothing's happened yet to make me care, and I doubt I'll be picking up another issue. I thought that too, originally. Now I think it's going to go completely the other way. She'll very deliberately not become the Punisher. Like Commissioner Gordon in the Killing Joke after the Joker tried to send him insane using his, "It only takes one bad day to send a man insane" theory. Of course, what's done with her after that I have no idea. Hopefully it's something better than Not-Punisher hunting down Actual-Punisher with the theme tune of, "Look at me I'm better than you!" playing along merrily in the background.
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| # ? Oct 24, 2011 14:30 |
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While I generally like Rucka, I really haven't felt much of anything about his run so far. I am kind of expecting what Gorilla Salad said to happen as well. It's almost too obvious for The Bride to become a vigilante. I guess I wouldn't be shocked to see her take out the people immediately responsible, but I don't see a Frank Castle type crusade against all crime happening. Given that I do like Rucka, I'll give this til the end of the arc, but I'll probably just stick with MAX. Aaron has done as good a job as anyone could following up Ennis' run, in my opinion.Lurdiak posted:I guess that lady's gonna became the She-Punisher, who is just like the Punisher but a lawyer or something. OK, this made me laugh. Madrox fucked around with this message at Oct 24, 2011 around 15:16 |
| # ? Oct 24, 2011 15:13 |
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Actually I'm rooting for her to join Frank now because I'm tired of hearing about his loving wife.
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| # ? Oct 26, 2011 03:38 |
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New issue of MAX came out. I'm enthralled by how every issue seems to get more intense and violent, and how much further into the darkness Castle and Fisk are willing to descend for the sake of getting what they want.
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| # ? Nov 10, 2011 04:05 |
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Sion posted:Lexi Alexander, director of Punisher War Zone, appeared on episode 20 of the Cheesy/Bad movie podcast 'how did this get made?' I really enjoyed this, thanks.
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| # ? Nov 12, 2011 20:23 |
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I am old, and I have read Punisher since as long as I can remember, I have most every Punisher comic ever made, I am glad that he is still going in his current incarnation. I can't believe I have been reading him for so long. I collected the entire Ennis run, and stopped after that, but for the sake of the collection, what did I miss?
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| # ? Nov 13, 2011 06:15 |
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As far as things that have been well received, there are a few. Rick Remender did a 616 run that involved Frank being turned into a Frankenstein's monster of sort after he was hacked to pieces by Daken during Dark Reign. It wasn't for me, but some here really enjoyed it. Currently, Jason Aaron is doing a new MAX run which is following up on Ennis' and in my opinion is a worthy successor. This is high praise from me, as I consider Ennis' MAX run to be the definitive Punisher series, and one of the best single character/writer runs period. Rucka has recently started a new 616 run with a returned-to-normal Castle, simply titled The Punisher. It's gotten good reviews here, and I like Rucka, but I'm not quite sold on the first arc so far. I'll stick with it for at least one more.
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| # ? Nov 13, 2011 07:39 |
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Punisher Max is ending with issue 22.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 21:50 |
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E the Shaggy posted:Punisher Max is ending with issue 22. gently caress YOU WORLD, gently caress YOU SO MUCH UGH... 
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 00:02 |
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TheJoker138 posted:gently caress YOU WORLD, gently caress YOU SO MUCH UGH... Eh, I'm ok with that. Aaron's storyline seems to be coming nicely to a climax between Frank and the Kingpin. That basically been the entire point of this run. If it did go any longer, then it would just be handed off to different writers and would just go to poo poo anyway. I think we all remember those post-Ennis issues, right?
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 01:00 |
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Vakal posted:Eh, I'm ok with that. Counter point- If they had just cancelled MAX after Ennis' run, we probably never would have gotten Aaron's due to their not being a continuous MAX Punisher book in publication.
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 10:58 |
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E the Shaggy posted:Punisher Max is ending with issue 22. I really dislike trying to shoehorn the Marvel universe around the Punisher. MAX has been so good because it ignored all that bullshit. If we're back to the days of costumed team-ups and 'Punisher vs. Random Marvel Villain' it'll be a shame. Fake Edit - what do I mean if? Two issues in to the new series and he's fighting 'The Vulture' ... 
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 12:47 |
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glasnost toyboy posted:I really dislike trying to shoehorn the Marvel universe around the Punisher. MAX has been so good because it ignored all that bullshit. If we're back to the days of costumed team-ups and 'Punisher vs. Random Marvel Villain' it'll be a shame. If they allow him to flat-out kill 'The Vulture', then I'd read it. They should just realize that's what people want and allow MAX to be an alternate version where Punisher is allowed to kill the supervillains instead of being 616 neutered.
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 13:15 |
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In the last issue, some gangsters said that Frank actually killed the (new, xxxtreme) Vulture... although I guess we'll see how long that'll last.
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 13:42 |
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E the Shaggy posted:Punisher Max is ending with issue 22. As disappointing as this is Aaron has said the book hasn't been cancelled and he's just finished his run. It will probably be relaunched with a slightly different brand and creative team. And Rucka's run is (pretty great so far) and as close to serious Punisher in the Marvel Universe as we'll get. Sure Punisher fought the Vulture but he both killed him and took weeks to recover from the fight.
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 14:07 |
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Waterhaul posted:As disappointing as this is Aaron has said the book hasn't been cancelled and he's just finished his run. It will probably be relaunched with a slightly different brand and creative team. Didn't one of the gangsters comment that Punisher has been out of commission for several months? Injured Frank looks like Big Boss with black hair.
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 15:20 |
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This week's issue has probably one of the most insane, badass fights in the history of comics. gently caress, I'm going to miss this book.
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| # ? Dec 21, 2011 19:31 |
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| # ? May 26, 2013 07:23 |
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Yeah the fight scene was the perfect mixture of brutal and exhausting. This issue though made me hope that as unlikely as it is to happen it would be great if Frank died at the end of Aarons run. He's got nothing left to fight for and really he's physically and mentally incapable of really carrying on. It's all he even really wants now.
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