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The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I have a new wordpress blog, but how do I make it into the comicpress layout? I do not understand anything that they are saying in the forums, how did you guys using comicpress set it up?

e. Nevermind, I figured out the issue. And I have no money for hosting so I guess I'll have to do something else.

The Worst Unicorn fucked around with this message at Feb 4, 2011 around 00:27

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The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I think if you're still using panels and having them read one at a time, it's not anti-sequential, just confusingly sequential. What if you forced the reader to take in every panel at once?

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I'm a little leery of putting anything on a structure. People tend to focus too much on the shape and materials you make it with.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I felt like nipples turned into weird little visual homing beacons whenever I used to draw them, too. Then I realized I was giving everyone the same nipples.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I don't think those pages are any good for any action scenes except for the ones in We3, since there's that time thing you have to take into consideration. However, it's a pretty strong argument for thinking about showing other things than 'my hero is punching guy a and b' in your fight scenes. I think lots of action scenes fall into the cookie cutter trap, even if the rest of the comic is so unique in its premise.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Crisco Kid, I just made my website with Webcomic and Inkblot. It was so easy, and I seriously had no idea what I was doing. Like at all. Conversely, I tried Comicpress first and managed to break everything so badly in ninety seconds that I had to uninstall wordpress completely and re-install it. So yeah, take a peek at that one too.

(Site's here, but very uninteresting at the moment. http://oleandercomic.com/ At least the confusing part's over.)

e. I put some sketches up so it's a little more interesting now.

The Worst Unicorn fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2011 around 19:35

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Kismet posted:

B/W lineart

I think pure black and white lineart is helpful if you work really gigantic, and if your lines are thin it won't get too intrusive. I just finished this doggy, and this is about 20% the size of my working file.


Personally, I like the b/w because it gets rid of all those stupid smudgies that get all over my paper, and it's easy to select them and color them in. And it forces me to make a high res PDF for later.
But that's me. Post some of your coloring that's bugging you- if you haven't been nervous about it being smudgy before, it might be totally fine.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Sorry, not quite PDF, a regular Photoshop file. That way I can go back into the layers and fix it if I have to and it's ready to go into other formats.

n. And that doesn't look smudgy to me. I'm curious what it looks like with the ink on top, though.

The Worst Unicorn fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2011 around 22:27

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I'm working in a literacy program right now that secretly helps kids bone up on their writing and reading by having them write comic books. It is an uphill battle trying to explain to sixth graders about story structure. Young girls ramble to me for ages about what happens in their story to this girl who met this guy and then her parents exploded, small boys want to write comics about nazi zombies when they don't even know what a nazi is. And I can't even help them much because they're sixth graders and cannot listen very long. Anyone have any writing tips I can give them? They like stuff that can be absorbed and implemented in about thirty seconds.

As for me, I fold up a paper into 16ths and write panel by panel. I end up with a lot of scenes and stuff and I just woolgather until I can find some logic to string them together. There's a lot of revising, but everything is mapped out nicely in the end. And my first sketches are nice to look at to remember the spontaneity. Since drawing panel by panel is so low-stress and about as close to dashing off a comic like when I was a sixth-grader as it gets, writing is fun. And since I average about 4 panels a page, I can even tell when a story is going off the rails and getting long as heck. I haven't tried this with the children because I suspect I would lose them at the folding part.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Reiley posted:

Give them a theme to write about that's related to other things they're learning about in other classes. If another teacher is teaching them about PIRATES, for example, get them to write about pirates. Or if they're learning about the solar system then get them to write about the solar system. Reel them in with a broad topic related to their other studies.

We actually have a theme, which all the other kids participating around the country are doing. It's "History Goes Comic," which got a bunch of OMG HISTORY WHYYY?? and a few hilarious paragraphs with stuff like 'My favorite historical person is Tyler Perry,' 'I love Albert Einstein he invented electricity which is good because now I can eat Whoppers I love Whoppers,' and my personal favorite 'Get money get money get money $$$$ get money' written all over a page with some little stick figures holding bags with dollar signs on them. Thanks for the links, CK. What I'm gonna do is make some handouts with a bunch of tips they can refer back to when they're working on their own.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Reiley posted:

Interdisciplinary initiatives allow students to enhance their education experience in multiple classes by either a) having a more fun way to learn about a subject (as in the arts and creative writing) and b) having greater knowledge about the subject they're making something with (by providing a creative application for the more "boring" lessons they're learning in other classes). Kids are eager to tell you all about new stuff they learned, especially sixth-graders. Maybe you should teach a couple sometime. HEH.

Yeah, gotta give it up for interdisciplinary stuff. I also help out in a charter school where they have weeks devoted to certain themes, and every class they go to relates back to it. It's pretty awesome, the whole school gets to work together on big projects. But that's something else.

This is the first year this comic program's been tried in my district, and we're all a little lost. Narrowing down the theme to a specific sounds like an awesome idea, I'll talk with my co-tea. . . I mean, ~*co-facilitators*~ about that tomorrow.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I love thinking about that stuff, too. I'm working on some pages where a conversation goes from sweet to sour between a man and a woman. At the beginning the woman is sitting masculinely and the man is sitting femininely, and it switches as the man starts getting mean. Will anyone notice? Probably not.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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munkymu posted:

It might be useful to get them to concentrate on motivation instead of structure. The plus is that motivation is fairly quick and easy to explain.

What does your main character want?
How do they plan on getting what they want?
What is going to prevent them from getting what they want/how is their plan going to go wrong?
What will they do next to try to get what they want?

It's nice to have more of a structure but this will force them to keep the characters active rather than just having things happen to them.

I held off on character motivation for a bit because I was afraid I'd end up with a bunch of really cool characters and no stories. What I've been doing is having each kid write a 4 sentence beginning, development, middle and end to their story. I had them starting with one thing they really want to have in their comic, setting that as a beg., dev., middle or end and then asking 'how could this happen' to themselves to help them fill in logical events for the rest of it. Right now I'm having them ask 'how and why and so what' to each event to fill in some holes, and picking a personal theme and character motivations to stick to so anything else they want to add in makes sense. No limes buttin' in a story about the color red.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Agreeable Employer posted:

So, with Aaron Diaz's newest blog entry on character design being talked about in the webcomic reader's thread, another poster [Boxman] and I were thinking if artits actually draw their characters fully naked, like Diaz did with his 2 characters, compared to nude forms when finalizing their character designs with a "Naked Test".

Sometimes, yeah. Some of my characters are likely to get naked and I don't wanna draw a bubble butt in chapter 1 that goes flat in chapter 4 or something.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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McGravin posted:

But are you likely to draw genitalia for genitalia's sake?

Sorry for being dense, but what would be genitalia's sake?

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Not kidding, it's late. I do draw everything out on a few characters, there will probably be nudity in my storyline. Most of them don't get that level of detail though. There's totally not much need to it besides personal preference unless your setting is a nude beach.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Your about page has a bunch of spelling errors, and your progress arrows are backwards. Unless I'm reading backwards. I also agree about the letters, and I think the comic's a little confusing. Sure, the about page explains everything, but I don't think I should have to read that to know why there's a million cute little admirals in a gigantic sub.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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If she is a treasure hunter she might wanna wear some more clothes. Also it seems blurry in odd spots, is that on the original?

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Yeah, I'd give her some more functional clothes- those could be pajamas minus the gloves. When you put a character in an outfit that contradicts their personality or profession, readers will start thinking about you instead of your story. D:

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I think I have to do that. Seems like a great way to break the over-thinking cycle.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Agreeable Employer posted:


Today's PvP is funny because of the laziness of Kurtz not adding the backgrounds to the other 2 panels of this strip. He mentioned that he took a picture of some street in Seattle but didn't really bother to take more to show different angles of the street to suit with the posings in the last 2 panels. It looks like they were sent to the void or something.

I think they're also a bit elfish in that picture. Like, if you projected the girl back she wouldn't stand as tall as that car- I could be wrong, though.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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This is missing it's (inconsequential) bubble. . . but what do you guys think? :I There is one thing that's bugging me about it, but I don't wanna influence your opinions in case I'm being neurotic.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Thanks! Those stupid smoke rings were more complicated than I thought, I'll go back into them. As for the arm hair, it is arm hair. It's a hairy guy with eyeliner on.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I'll mock up some text. :S In the meanwhile, I was worried about the top panel not being clear enough. Although there's a panel breaking it up, it's really one 3-point picture of the area behind a building addition. I should probably go traditional and have the location name in that top panel. Thanks!

e. Text

The Worst Unicorn fucked around with this message at Apr 5, 2011 around 04:26

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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skoolmunkee posted:

IEdit: Here I did a mock up



You know this was totally how I sketched it out but then I decided to get fancy. . .. I think I have to leave it as is, just because I need all my pages the same size, but hopefully if I fix the smoke rings as if they're rising through both panels it'll connect things enough. Also, nothings, thanks so much- that really makes a difference. And thanks all for the insights~

e. Oh wow Schoolmunkee I just noticed you actually drew in the missing sections. . . now I ain't got no excuse.
e2. Oh gently caress I flattened my working file. This'll suck.

The Worst Unicorn fucked around with this message at Apr 5, 2011 around 17:25

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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The cramping will probably stop once you get more used to standing. In the meanwhile, you can end a cramp almost immediately with the proper stretch. Try lying down and stretching the horrible demon leg(s) out behind you as far as you can, as straight as you can, even the toes- and then lift it up slowly from your hips (or elevate with pillows). If it's just one leg, stand up with the okay leg out in front and the crampy one in back, and lean forward. Lastly you can lie on your side or back and bring your knees to your chest. There is always a spot where the cramp will instantly melt away, and then you just hold still until you feel the twinges stop. If you break the stretch too soon and it all comes back, just start over.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Reminder, mini comics day starts at midnight. :3 I don't wanna be alone.

CK, sorry I didn't notice your edit earlier. That's the ~*First Page*~, but the page that really feels like the first to me is the tenth. I worry more about the first installment than the first page, myself.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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-_- I have one hour left in the day, I can't finish 4 more pages unless they're the shittiest pages ever. Anyone else make a more successful mini comic today? I like my story enough, I think I might redo it not chicken scratchy if I have time.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I want to see it. If you got all the way to the printing part then I think that's a success.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Somebody order half a comic? The words are just pencilled, sorry.


(VV panel two of this one says: We never did find that finger, either)




This story doesn't end in hugs and personal growth. Also, Kismet, I'm so jealous of the quality of your output, there. Crazy-eyes Buck in the last panel I finished was pretty much me as I was painting.

(e. Also Evey doesn't die and Buck doesn't start dramatically screaming and become an action hero single father.)

The Worst Unicorn fucked around with this message at Apr 10, 2011 around 17:38

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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One sheet of 8 1/2 by 11 paper makes a small 8 page book. So you just have to plan for a page count that's a multiple of 4. How about may 11th, to give the full month to those who haven't started?

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Oh wait I thought we were being realistic and giving everyone a month to work. Can we make it a weeklong thing? The output will be much better and more fun.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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McGravin posted:

Weeklong? The idea is working under pressure. It appears that 24 hours is doable, so do it.

Uh. . . nobody was able to print a book in 24. I just think the time limit should be more motivation than restriction.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Maybe I'll get to 8 pages if I spend less time writing this go around. Anyone have a theme idea?

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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That's awesome and you don't suck at hatching at all. I can't believe those are at your working size, no wonder you were cramping up! What did your dad think?

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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KingKalamari posted:




It's funny, it's cute. It's so much better.

However, I noticed that in the bottom panels both character's legs stop a little short of the panel border. I can also see that background perspective is super wonky- are you only drawing as much of the characters as fits in the panel at a time? In order to make a convincing sense of space, you gotta draw all the way down to the feet, or at least mark where your character meets the ground outside of the panel's border. It's a good habit to get into, it'll keep your character's heights consistent, too.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I outline my characters with a thicker pen that I don't use on anything else, something I totally stole from manga. I think the less line variation there is on something the less visually interesting it is, which might be why KK's background is distracting.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I'm plugging along, but since my family's pretty religious I've gotta break my 24 hours up. Anyone else still playing?
That's super impressive for 24 hours Grantaire, especially how you were even able to color in some stuff. What's your coloring process, by the way? It looks great.

The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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Sure you can- even if you're just writing, you're still making a webcomic. What story did you realize you were ripping, if you don't mind my asking?

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The Worst Unicorn
Nov 3, 2009

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I'll take a look, too, Ninja_Orca. I'm still teaching comics to kids and am very much in a script reading mode. You can PM me, also.

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