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dropping out of tournament due to something called "boner shame". more on this as it develops.
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I will: get fingers stuck in my butthole, stick fingers into other's buttholes, rub myself on dudes who have not showered in weeks, submit to what is basically torture to make weight, and wear a singlet, but I will never touch a woman I am not married to in the eyes of god.
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I will: get fingers stuck in my butthole, stick fingers into other's buttholes, rub myself on dudes who have not showered in weeks, submit to what is basically torture to make weight, and wear a singlet, but I will never touch a woman with consent I am not married to in the eyes of god.
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Feb 17, 2011 19:49
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I assume the announcement of a superfight rematch with the Terra is forthcoming.
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Feb 17, 2011 20:22
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Thoguh posted:Two girls qualified for the Iowa Wrestling tournament, the first two ever. Just qualifying is a pretty big deal.
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Thoguh posted:Since there really isn't any other thread to put this in... The comments are both hilarious and  There will be no GIRLS in OUR GAY SPORT!!!!
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Feb 17, 2011 20:40
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Who Gotch Ya posted:Ari Bolden is a herb but that doesn't mean that the move wouldn't work. Disregarding that its Ari Bolden, just looking at that submission (I've never had it put on me before) it looks like someone would be able to use their right arm in order to alleviate pressure and potentially escape. Who Gotch Ya posted:I'd just forget the half nelson part and do the Hashimoto triangle/arbmar though. Yeah, this is what i was going to say. I like going for the armbar. edit: Remember, only roll around on the floor with mostly naked men, like god intended. MycroftXXX fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Feb 17, 2011 |
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Feb 17, 2011 20:41
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Grifter posted:I don't know much about wrestling, but I assume that people wrestle those of all school years, right? The article says the girls are a sophomore and a freshman, so that means that they may be able to duplicate at least getting into the tournament quite a few times. That's cool. Yeah, one is a sophomore and the other is a Freshman. If they can stay at 112 they'll have a decent shot at getting back to the tournament the next few years. At 119 and above I don't think they'd be able to be very competitive. At 103 and 112 the muscle mass difference isn't enough to overcome with technique. A big thing a whole bunch of the comments are ignoring is that you don't just show up at the state tournament, you qualify through your district. Only the top two from each of 8 districts goes to State. So these aren't just two random girls who decided to show up and wrestle, they earned their place by getting first or second at districts. Lots of really decent wrestlers never make it to State.
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Iowa is also a tough rear end wrestling state, so they didn't just show up and take a gimme.
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Xguard86 posted:Iowa is also a tough rear end wrestling state, so they didn't just show up and take a gimme. There was a second girl who qualified in the same weight class. Her opponents just went out and wrestled her and nobody made a big deal about it. This kid's dad is apparently the preacher at the local evengelical church. I kind of feel sorry for him because its pretty clear he didn't have a choice in the matter (though who knows what he would have done if he had), and he had a very decent shot at making the finals, now the absolute best he can do is third. It's safe to say he'll be looking back on this with regret in the years to come. But for now, his parents won't have him rubbing up against no sweaty girl.
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Feb 17, 2011 22:51
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Thoguh posted:There was a second girl who qualified in the same weight class. Her opponents just went out and wrestled her and nobody made a big deal about it. Also his coach and the rest of his team are going to be on him unmercifully for pretty much the rest of the year if not longer.
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Feb 17, 2011 22:55
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Don't they have female divisions? I wonder if I'll have to grapple a girl at the 215lbs weight class. I had to box a girl once and it wasn't alot of fun.
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Feb 17, 2011 23:17
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westcoaster posted:Don't they have female divisions? They do in some states but in most there aren't enough women to make them have their own divisions. I think Hawaii and Texas have women's divisions.
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Feb 18, 2011 01:08
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I am a huge MMA nerd, and all of my favorite fighters are BJJ guys, but I dont know all that much about "pure" BJJ. Can some of you grappling nerds post a breakdown of some of the major competitors? I hear names like Marcello Garcia, Jacare and Roger Gracie thrown around a lot as elite grapplers but i dont know what their accomplishments are, what kinds of strengths or weaknesses they have, etc.
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Roger Gracie is the most technically sound BJJ (with gi) player ever. He's absolutely fantastic without the gi, he has decent reach, and very bad striking. He has won everything that matters in grappling, a couple of times. Jacare is the second brazilian to ever workout. He has won everything, and found ways to beat Roger on points a few times (but he has lost the majority of their meetings). His striking is decent, but his chin is very suspect. Marcelo Garcia is dead or something. Who cares.
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Sure, there are a lot of competitors both past and present who probably deserve a write-up and I won’t presume to try to cover everybody but I’ll try to add a post or two whenever I get the time. I’ll start with Marcelo because he’s probably the guy at the top of the sport who I’m the biggest fan of and because between our vaguely similar body types and the enormous man-crush my instructor has on him he’s probably the top competitor I tend to emulate the most.  Marcelo in the process of beating Ricco Rodriguez Marcelo Garcia was born in Formiga, Brazil in 1983 and was awarded his black belt by Fabio Gurgel. Growing up Garcia trained in a number of martial arts, including karate and judo. It was his love for judo that led to his introduction to jiu jitsu, and over time he became increasingly devoted to the sport and his devotion has paid off as he is one of the more decorated competitors in grappling today. He is a four time gold medalist at the Mundials (World Jiu Jitsu championships) and a three time gold medalist at his weight class and a one time silver medalist in the absolute division in ADCC; he is also a three time gold medalist, once in the absolute division, at the Brazillian National Championships. I have no idea if this is reliable but according to Wikipedia his two losses against someone in his own weight class in the last seven years were against Pablo Popovitch at ADCC in 2009 and Michael Langhi at the World Pro Cup, also in ‘09. Popovitch is himself one of the great grapplers in the world who has basically beat everybody but Garcia (who he has lost to twice, both by submission, both in the finals of ADCC) he has faced in the past half decade and Langhi was named the BJJ Competitor of the year in 2009 and also took gold in his weight in the Mundials in '09. As for Garcia’s strengths and weaknesses he’s probably most famous for his use of the X guard, but I suppose his other “signature techniques” would include his arm drag, his guillotine, and his back takes, back mount and rear naked choke. Considering that he basically doesn’t lose in grappling competition except when facing other elite competitors who are significantly bigger than him (Jacare, Roger Gracie, Robert Drysdale, Braulio Estima, Xande, Ribeiro) his main weakness seems to be the fact that he hasn’t had any success (granted in only one professional fight) in MMA. Garcia is one of the world’s best and one of the most entertaining grapplers to watch, none of his ADCC matches that I have come across are anything but entertaining. And his highlight real is endlessly entertaining. Everyone should be a fan of Marcelo Garcia. edit: Also what are you talking about, Jacare is the third Brazillian to lift. Grab Your Foot! fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Feb 18, 2011 |
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I also want to add that he's a fantastic instructor, and his warm-up exercises are just hell of fun. Crawling races and GI dodgeball are not unusual activites in his club.
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Feb 18, 2011 04:59
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Grab Your Foot! posted:
I'm pretty sure this is correct, also the only other guy to beat him as a blackbelt at middleweight was Terere, who deserves his own write-up because he was an amazing competitor, and then went insane or something.
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Feb 18, 2011 07:59
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I think this is my favorite marcelo video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3lORxrOEGg Even veteran grapplers like Shields are completely baffled by him. "He didn't even have mount!"
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http://www.bjjheroes.com/ This site has a pretty complete library of great bjj guys, past and present, with decent write-ups for them. A few people are missing but you will find 99% of what you want. PS Pablo Popovitch's family home was hit by that land slide near Rio a few weeks ago. His mom died and his dad was seriously injured. My instructor was actually friends with his older sister, it's a very sad thing they are dealing with. If you feel charitable, you can donate to his medical fund here: http://www.teampopovitchlive.com/?p=163
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Updating on the wrestling stuff I posted yesterday. Both Jesus boy and the girl he refused to wrestle got eliminated in the round of 12, and won't place. The three guys who went out and competed against *gasp* a girl are all alive in the conselation bracket and will place 8th at worst.
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So with the Olympics coming up next year I was looking at getting some tickets for the wrestling events. I know very little about wrestling but the videos posted in these threads are always entertaining, I'm just wondering which is generally more entertaining Greco or Freestyle? And who are the big names I should look out for?
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Patient_Toffee posted:So with the Olympics coming up next year I was looking at getting some tickets for the wrestling events. I know very little about wrestling but the videos posted in these threads are always entertaining, I'm just wondering which is generally more entertaining Greco or Freestyle? And who are the big names I should look out for? Greco is going to have more big throws, Freestyle more explosive doublelegs and the like. Rule changes in recent years have really neutered them though, so I'd reccomend going to earlier rounds when you'll see more mismatches between the competitors leading to more big moves and touch falls. If you want to see diseased pajama wrestling, go to a Judo event instead.
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Grab Your Foot! posted:Marcelo stuff Just gonna add, the main reason that Marcelo only has 1 fight is because of K-1 jerking him around for an entire year with cancellations. He basically stayed in fight camp with ATT the entire time, and the whole experience left a sour taste in his mouth, so he's just concentrating on grappling and growing his organization now. MGinaction.com is an awesome site, I had an account for a while before I messed up my knee and I learned a ton. K-1 ruins everything.
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Feb 19, 2011 01:54
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MGinaction.com is an ironic name considering how little Marcelo fought.
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I bought a new judogi and it arrived in the mail today its an Atama double weave, the jacket is too baggy (read they all are) and the sleeves are about an inch too long to compete in. Think i could shrink this down to a perfect fit? any tips? The pants fit amazing, great length and quality.
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TwistedNails posted:I bought a new judogi and it arrived in the mail today its an Atama double weave, the jacket is too baggy (read they all are) and the sleeves are about an inch too long to compete in. Think i could shrink this down to a perfect fit? any tips? The pants fit amazing, great length and quality. if it's not preshrunk, it will probably shrink down to just about right. Usually, you lose about an inch or so. I do normal cold water wash and then the delicate dry to shrink my gis. No idea if that is the best/worst way.
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Yeah it isn't preshrunk, I actually might return it for another size I read online their double weave is harder to shrink down and a size smaller might be better for me.
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Xguard86 posted:http://www.bjjheroes.com/ This Pe De Pano guy seems like my kind of character
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Pwny_Xpress posted:I hear names like Marcello Garcia, Jacare and Roger Gracie thrown around a lot as elite grapplers but i dont know what their accomplishments are, what kinds of strengths or weaknesses they have, etc. quote:In racking up a record number of jiu-jitsu titles, Gracie was particularly brilliant in his mount attack, lining up what appeared to be basic, fundamental chokes against top competition. Throughout his training life, Gracie was a natural on top, a position he noticed brilliant guard players had trouble defending. He worked obsessively on getting to mount, one of the hardest positions to achieve in sport jiu-jitsu. He finished his opponents in the 2007, 2008 and 2009 world finals with chokes from the mount. * Notable because in their last match, at the 2004 Mundials absolute final, Jacare was actually ahead on points when he got armbarred, and there apparently wasn't a "technical stoppage" or "TKO injury" rule in place, so he didn't tap -- Roger broke his arm, but Jacare was able to run out the clock for the points win. EDIT: Instead of just gutting it out though, Jacare "escaped" and ended up out of bounds, but when the bout was continued-or-restarted, he then kept stalling/playing keep away for several minutes to the point that Roger can be seen pointing it out to the ref, to no avail, on the second video OrangeCrush linked. Chortles fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Feb 20, 2011 |
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jacare vs Roger 2k4 mundial pt 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZdDh_yQVSU pt 2: The arm is broken just after 1min in this video. such an incredible match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUYwlxHjkMA
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I originally planned to say something about Jacare being a badass, thinking he just held out in an armbar with a broken arm for like 10 seconds. Seeing him Starnes about for a long-rear end time changed my opinion.
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Save Russian Jews posted:Seeing him Starnes about for a long-rear end time changed my opinion. Yeah, it was a tactical victory. But come on, he was working through the pain of a goddamn broken arm (popped elbow?). quote:Gracie admits he finds it much harder to finish from the mount in MMA
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kimbo305 posted:What makes it harder in MMA? The striking from the bottom seems to be such a small facet of the mount that I don't see what would change that much. Which choke is he applying? Is it a no-gi choke? Do gloves become an issue? He's not talking about a specific choke being harder to finish, he's saying that it is harder in mma to finish people from mount, full stop. Which is perfectly reasonable since there are a ton of gi chokes from mount in bjj which, obviously, aren't available in mma.
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From that post, I didn't know if Roger was talking about mount in gi or no-gi. But I guess my question stands -- if you're attacking from the top in mount and not using strikes, how different is mount in MMA from mount in no-gi?
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kimbo305 posted:From that post, I didn't know if Roger was talking about mount in gi or no-gi. But I guess my question stands -- if you're attacking from the top in mount and not using strikes, how different is mount in MMA from mount in no-gi? fatherdog posted:Which is perfectly reasonable since there are a ton of gi chokes from mount in bjj which, obviously, aren't available in mma.
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So this bit:quote:He worked obsessively on getting to mount, one of the hardest positions to achieve in sport jiu-jitsu. He finished his opponents in the 2007, 2008 and 2009 world finals with chokes from the mount. e: nor specifically which world final events those are.
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Specifically Roger is known for his cross choke from mount, which is a gi choke and can't be done without the gi. Most of the other chokes from mount also involve the gi, and those that don't aren't really unique to or even necessarily best attempted from the mount, like all the arm triangle variants. Plus because most submission attempts require taking some sort of risk (like giving up a sweep if you attempt an armbar from mount and your opponent escapes) and in MMA top position is that much more valuable even really good grapplers often just say gently caress it and punch the dude rather than try for a submission. And the World Championship being referred to is the "World Jiu Jitsu Championship" or the Mundials, which is the most prestigious jiu jitsu (ie with the gi) tournament in the world. Grab Your Foot! fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Feb 20, 2011 |
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kimbo305 posted:So this bit: "sport jiujitsu" is BJJ, which takes place with the gi. No gi grappling isn't sport jiujitsu, it's no gi grappling.
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