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Biafraid posted:Bummer. Under side control is usually where I find myself being crushed and unable to do much, especially against bigger opponents (which is pretty much everyone). Verdum, I ain't. underhook, scoot your hip out until you can heist to your knees. Then learn to defend a front headlock (hand fight, redrag) once you get there. Seriously, learning to underhook is probably the most important skill to getting off the bottom from pretty much any position. It's not flashy, tricky, or en vogue. It' a working mans move, and can make for a hard fight off the bottom vs bigger dudes. However, the success rate is amazingly high, and underhooking will keep you from getting subbed while you figure out where the rest of the moves are.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2011 08:51 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 21:40 |
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Rids! posted:How the heck do I sweep from half guard when my opponent is angled across my body such that I cant take their back? That being said, underhook and get on to your side (facing in to them). The fundamental part of being remotely successful on bottom half guard is getting to your side. On your back, you're going to get flattened and laid on. You need to get to your side to create angles, free your hips, look for sweeps, or heist. Really, when they are fatty mcfatfat laying on you and not attempting to move at all, you lay there. As soon as they give you an inch of space, start to fight for your underhook. When you finally establish an underhook you should pretty much always be able to get to your side.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2011 10:12 |
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westcoaster posted:I disagree. You are on the bottom and therefore losing. If you don't escape you will lose. It is your prerogative to do something. Its common if someone is ahead in points to stall on the top. In competition, I agree with you - it is in your best interest to try and get something going. That being said, you will never get called for stalling on the bottom. You will only ever get called for stalling on top. If you're on bottom, you should be playing defense to get to a better position. Sometimes that defense is just hanging out and preventing them from getting anything going until you manage to wiggle into that right position to move. In the gym, when you're just rolling around with your friends working on technique, totally disagree. There is no time limits, no points, and you're just looking to improve upon techniques. At that point, why not work on your bottom defense game? Also, it will make your partner better at his top game - especially if you're just managing to beat him with things like a bridge or heist. It's not like you're going to lose on points. imtheism fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Mar 13, 2011 |
# ¿ Mar 13, 2011 09:23 |
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I train with a dude named Trevor Smith, who went to Iowa State, and was a training partner of Cael Sanderson. He's a super nice guy, strong as a gorilla, weighs 225 of pure muscle and has hips like a 145 lber, hits moves that don't even exist, and is absolutely impossible to get off the bottom on. I'm a pretty rugged 200lber, and hold my own against the super heavyweights no problem. When he lays on me and grabs me, I break in to little tiny pieces. Good training partner!
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2011 04:50 |
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MuonManLaserJab posted:I thought the average was ten, like it has been shown to take for mastery of other difficult things (someone post that study)? So maybe he was roughly average, maybe he wasn't always spending the same amount of time on BJJ because he wasn't BJ Penn not having to work a day in his life, maybe his coach is tight with belts...this is ignorant white belt speculation.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2011 07:43 |
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1st AD posted:Did I kill the tendon in my biceps or something? About a month ago I got caught in a nasty armbar and I couldn't tap quickly enough before it felt seriously stretched out. I've been avoiding doing workouts that strain my biceps because there's still a ton of residual soreness any time I flex it. For me, I always warm the arm up with some good stretching. Then after the first week or so, i start stretching and compressing the muscle in every way possible - past the point of pain but not to reinjury. It hurts like a bitch, but it forces out any scar tissue, and forces reconnected tensed tendons to stretch, then heavy RICE after the fact. The most important part of any injury like that is getting ice on it, LOTS of compression, ibuprofen, elevation immediately. You need to do everything you can to prevent the initial swelling/damage past what the initial injury was. I will occasionally sleep with an ice pack on, and my whatever all nice and wrapped up tight. If you can get past like that first 2 days, your recovery will be much quicker. If you're like me, you take not nearly enough time off, tape it up to gently caress and get back on the mat. After a few of those you get a nice pain in your elbow that never really goes away 100%.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2011 07:39 |
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awkward_turtle posted:Anybody here have experience coming back from a knee injury? Back into December I tore my right knee up pretty bad off a failed takedown, and then had to delay the surgery till March because of my school schedule. I'm lighter a chunk of my lateral meniscus now and I'll probably deal with some MCL instability, from tearing it in half, the rest of my life. On the bright side what they originally thought was a total ACL tear turned out to be a partial tear and I didn't need a replacement. I'm up to about 80% of strength, relative to the other leg, and overall lower body strength is obviously lower than it was before the accident since I haven't deadlifted or squated in 4 months now. I'm hoping to start going for at least technique and drilling in a couple weeks when I get my strength up better, get a decent hinge brace, and can actually sit on my knees. I rehabbed it hard on an high level athlete's regimen in physical therapy and had a pretty high range of motion and strength after about only a month. I don't know the specifics about how your injury works, but I'm surprised they havent had you doing any squats or weight lifting or anything. I was doing leg presses, squats, balance ball, calf raises, weighted leg lifts, and all sorts of weighted/resistance training with as much weight as I could physically do for 3x10 sets for each exercise. Usually by the third set I'd be unable to do the exercise around 7-8. I stayed off the mat for about 2.5-3 months, then got back to rolling really lightly. I just rolled a little harder/used it more as I felt more confident on it. I just went easy on it, and only trained with friends I trusted not to hurt me. Lots of ice, stretching, massage. I won a grappling competition on it at about 6 months in - but it was no where near healed, maybe 65%. The good news is I learned to wrestle off my right foot, as well as work my moves the other direction. Not being able to explode through moves actually really helped my technique. It's pretty strong now, and the only lasting injury is the loving crater they carved into the front of my knee. The actual reattachment site is fine. That being said, I have pretty unreal pain tolerance, a good work ethic, and am completely stupid about letting my injuries heal 100% before I go back on the mat. As far as I've been told I'm pretty much as atypical as you get from that scenario. I was jogging no brace after 6 weeks, most people are barely walking at that point. So, yeah, ymmv. Just be smart, lift weights/balance ball, go lightly, ice/elevate it every night. You'll be ok. moment. My first day back in the gym, I was rolling with a buddy of mine. He's a good guy, albeit far less than the smartest guy I've known. Anyways, my knee is all taped up to gently caress, i tell him this is day #1 back, and I just want to see how it feels. He starts off on top, and within about 30 seconds DIVES FOR A KNEEBAR ON MY BAD KNEE. I almost had a heart attack. So yeah, words of warning, don't roll with THAT guy, even if he is your friend.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2011 08:01 |
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daaaayuumn. Wish I could do a takedown clinic with one of the Shultz bros. Those two were mean as gently caress. Think it was Mark who broke some dude's arm in the olympics with a kimura while defending a single leg takedown. Either way, everyone in SoCal should go to this.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2011 11:21 |
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hopper2k posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNRkvo0Lops Only thing I really saw was that you hung out on the back too long when he started to beat it. As soon as he's out of RNC position you need to be scrambling to stay on top, so he doesn't spin and end up in your guard.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2011 06:51 |
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Senor P. posted:I was wondering if someone could explain something to me. Maybe I'm wrong about this but do the big tournament organizers (Grapplers Quest, NAGA, others I don't know about) hate the west coast? Can anyone speak to this?
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2011 08:04 |
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dokomoy posted:This video freaking owns Seriously? NOTHING better happened that day than a dude getting his arms tied up, and then escaping? Than a dude pulling half guard from stand up? Come on... imtheism fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Jun 1, 2011 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2011 08:26 |
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Thoguh posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEMlJiTWNfk Now that's what I'm talkin' bout. The sequence that goes down at 3:00 is just loving stupid awesome.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2011 09:39 |
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BlindSite posted:Anyone got any advice on staying heavier when in mount and side control, because I'm against dudes a lot bigger I find sometimes they can pretty much throw me off even with solid hooks and technique. Against dudes my own size I maintain mount and side control pretty easily but the bigger guys seem to be able to power out a bit easier. However, it really depends on what you mean by 'muscle' out of moves, and the manner in which they are trying to do so. Are they bench pressing you out of side control, or are they beating you to an underhook and heisting? Similarly with mount, are they bench pressing you, Umpa, or hip escaping? Side control bench press - secure your far side underhook and pop up to knee on belly. Should create enough space for you to be able to just ride them, always try and fall back into your far side underhook for control. If they keep arms outstretched, should be an easy pass in to mount. Bench press from mount - mounted/swing armbar. Either that, try and change the angle they're pushing, let em start to roll you over, then take their back. like I said, it really kinda depends on what move they're doing. Don't think about 'how do i hold them here?' Think about, 'where can I move to beat them to the next and or better position?'. Holding someone in place doesn't do you any good, but continuing to move and advance towards better position always will.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2011 12:54 |
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Xguard86 posted:how do you tap that which has no limbs or neck? Seriously, it's too bad his jits aren't a little more slick, cuz you can't get a better body for grappling than that monster.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2011 04:40 |
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Pres posted:Here's a pretty awesome video of Marcelo Garcia rolling with Ryan Hall in a Gi. Hall is a pretty respected grappler and Marcelo just eats him alive, especially in that gi video. Really gives you perspective on how far up the chain one can go.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2011 07:42 |
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colonel_korn posted:I guess this is as good a place for this as any
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2011 09:53 |
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SimonNotGarfunkel posted:This must be quite demoralising. In the comments somewhere, said it was 15-17 year old division, which typically don't have skill levels inside of them. i looked on youtube and she looks to have decent high school wrestling experience. So basically, she was inadvertently (maybe?) sandbagging. Also, shouldn't have been 25-0, as he reversed her @ ~2:05 - not sure why he didnt get points, bad reffing. Skill was pretty obviously very uneven. That being said, that kid needs to learn to defend/escape a mount! imtheism fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Aug 1, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 1, 2011 09:30 |
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fatherdog posted:You don't get points for "reversals", you get points for sweeps, and sweeps are only scored done from the guard. Bridging someone over from mount doesn't give you points in pretty much any ruleset - except I think in FILA submission wrestling rules you get one point for "escapes" if you get back to a "neutral" position. diff rules up here in Seattle, then, I guess. I've always seen sweep points given for mounted-->guard via bridges and such. Imo, you deserve to give up some points for going from the best position to your back - should be scrambling to a 50/50 at worst! Come to think of it, I roll all no-gi which might be where the difference is. Same idea as how you're not allowed to pull guard without giving up points. Re: banana split. Sucks to have it done to you, but after you get it done once or twice you should be able to defend it pretty easily. The trick when they start to throw it on is to scoot your lower back/butt to the ground to change the angle they need to stretch with. If you stay on top of their hips/stomach, you're toast. Just keep your hips moving, change the stretching angles, and there is pretty much always space to squirm.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2011 10:23 |
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Death Bucket posted:I once had a ref threaten to DQ me in a tournament for stalling in mount. While I was the guy on top. I'm pretty sure it's the bottom guy's problem to figure out a way out from under there, and it's my job to hold that position as long as I drat well feel like it. The goal should *always* be to advance position towards a submission, for both parties. However, the guy on top is usually the one dictating the pace/positions, so his attempts at advancement usually matter more in terms of keeping things moving. If you're on the bottom of a tight side control, sometimes no amount of anything you can do will get you free from someone who just wants to hold you and stall. At that point, HE is the one who is stalling - not the person pinned on the bottom. Obviously, if it's coming down to points at the end of the match, the bottom person should be doing everything to advance. However, for the top person, defending points and advancing are two very different things. It's both party's responsibility to advance, but it's impossible to stall from the bottom because you're already losing.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2011 09:30 |
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fawker posted:man, that floor REALLY did look slippery My coach competed in ADCC 2007. He mentioned to me that he had no idea how slippery the mats were going to be. His theory is that they do it on purpose to keep the game more skewed towards bjj rather than wrestling (which I would buy). Said making any sort of good penetrating takedowns was hard as gently caress, and that if he ever competes in adcc again he is going to wear wrestling shoes.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2011 09:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 21:40 |
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Nierbo posted:Typical stupid nierbo-type questions ahead. As for the 50/75/100, some of it is to make sure you're establishing position correctly, some of it psychological, some of it physical. If you have a guy who is mega tough and can just grit his teeth and bare it for 10 seconds, you'll gas your arms out trying. However, if you put on the choke at 50%-75% while establishing position perfectly, then you've got the choke 3/4 finished without really expending any energy. As soon as you ramp it up, you're now using 100% force against his 25% left to resist. I don't know if it makes any sense in writing... it's kind of one of those things you have to feel and have done to you to really understand. When I start chokes slow, establish good position and ramp it up, i find I pretty much never need to use 100% power - even the toughest dudes crumble at 85% or so. I think of it like how a boa constrictor kills things. First you just get them wrapped up, then slowly start to sink it in. You're constricting enough to hold them and cause severe discomfort, but not immediately go out. When they are at the very end of the rope and you've got them completely immobilized - that's when the death squeeze comes, and there is just absolutely no way to resist it. Sounds cheesy, but it totally works. This is really only true with blood chokes, however. Cranks, windpipe chokes, and all other joint locks go on tighter with speed an intensity. That being said, when not at a tournament, you should always put *those* ones on with an even slower ramp so you don't cripple your opponent for life.
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2011 06:28 |