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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Now with complementary face-buffer

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-t...-new-webseries/

Hey, did you love the Plinkett reviews in terms of how they were more analytical and less about summarizing the movie scene-by-scene, but hate the whole serial killer gimmick?

Well screw you. But you got your wish kind of.

Still better than a solid 80+% of what's on TGWTG, but the whole "voice" really comes across better when he could filter it through a microphone--seeing it acted makes him look like a schmuck 20 year-old doing a bad impression his sycophant girlfriend says is hilarious.

Edit: I need to be more patient. The set-up wasn't good, but I see the promise in the premise and decent reviews that don't suck up to the film industry (a reason I stopped watching Spill.com stuff, despite the decent back-and-forth and occasional good criticism).

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Daemus
Jun 20, 2008

Not entirely undoglike

Well that's not really the guy who does Plinkett though, is it? Unless they filmed it in split screen.

Utritum
May 2, 2009


Whenever Mr. Plinkett is behind the camera it is Mike Stoklasa who does his voice, but it is always Rich Evans who plays live-action Mr. Plinkett.

But yeah, the effect is quite jarring because Mike's Plinkett is the best known version of the character, but for some weird reason he never dubs over Rich's lines, despite the facts that it probably would be pretty easy and uphold some consistency.

Undead Unicorn
Sep 14, 2010
DONT YOU FUCKING DARE INSULT ENDERS GAME GOD DAMN
MAYBE I SHOULD BE COMBATIVE AND TALK MORE ABOUT ENDERS GAME IN THIS THREAD

DO ME A FAVOR AND ENSURE THAT I GET TO WRITE PARAGRAPHS-LONG DIATRIBES DEFENDING THE WORK OF A MAN WHO THINKS BEING MOLESTED MAKES KIDS GAY. GOOD SHIT


Endorph posted:

Wait, is spoony seriously mad because they're making fun of Highlander? What the bloody gently caress? Rifftrax makes fun of everything! That's their gimmick! If Spoony went and made fun of anyone employed there's favorite movie of all time, and did it in a funny way, they'd probably go "Wow that was hilarious!"

Is this just some injoke or something?

It was a joke. Mike J. Nelson was playing along because he knew who Spoony was, but the guy who played Crow didn't want to waste his time with a Twitter fight. No big deal whatsoever.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a sweat as unknown to me, in my sleep I have managed to tune my ear to the frequency of despair, and crossreference by the longitude and latitude of a heart in agony.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ONE MORE DAY ALREADY!


Utritum posted:

Whenever Mr. Plinkett is behind the camera it is Mike Stoklasa who does his voice, but it is always Rich Evans who plays live-action Mr. Plinkett.

But yeah, the effect is quite jarring because Mike's Plinkett is the best known version of the character, but for some weird reason he never dubs over Rich's lines, despite the facts that it probably would be pretty easy and uphold some consistency.

The answer is simply that they don't, and shouldn't, care about the consistency of a character in internet reviews.

Edit: Someone with a username and avatar that complains about how people misspell the name of a comic book character is calling something spergy. Think about that.

SpiderHyphenMan fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2011 around 18:06

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

The answer is simply that they don't, and shouldn't, care about the consistency of a character in internet reviews.

What's sad is the amount of honest to god there is over the continuity of the skits that Linkara and Spoony do.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

DAMMIT WESLEY!!!


Todd's back with a review of a Wiz Khalifa song.

http://toddspopsongreviews.blip.tv/

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aip2aIt0ROM

Welp, I'm done with AVGN and saying he knowledgeable about games. Egoraptor not only made something that made me laugh, but made me think a bit about game design. He had incredibly good insight into Castlevania 1 and 2 and what made them good or bad games.

In fact, I think his analogy could probably be applied to watching some guy in front of a webcam acting wacky and calling it a review versus a well thought out review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aip2aIt0ROM#t=859s

VVV Well, aside from the shouting gimmick, his points were pretty well thought out and informed. Removing all the gimmicks wouldn't basically just give you a video of someone describing what's going on on the screen.

My Linux Rig fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2011 around 07:07

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown


Oh hey, it's the Dane Cook video game review show!

I kid, I actually enjoyed that, though the shouting gimmick did get old. I'd like to see him do more and hopefully refine his reviewing style.

Henry Fungletrumpet
Dec 1, 2008


Saw that through a subscribed channel's favourite on youtube, really liked it. I remember watching a bunch of Egoraptor's toons a while back and burning out on him, since he's always doing that loud/wacky Dane Cook thing (except with more penises), but that video had enough of an analytical edge to even it out. I'd even go so far as to say his short freakout bits complemented it nicely and kept it interesting. That and it was just really nicely edited in general. Hope he does more.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

cheesy anime pizza undresses you with pepperoni eyes


He made a lot of good points, but whenever he yelled I just rolled my eyes. It was really hard to get through because I was waiting for him to surprise sex my ears after every word.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010


He's a bit heavy on the AWESOME [INSERT GAME HERE] gimmick. If he toned that done for future reviews/comparisons I could see the videos having some promise.

dawunderboy
Aug 9, 2009


I thought that video was really, really good. I enjoyed it a lot, but the yelling was a bit much. I loved it at first but for such a long video you can't do it so often. Thanks for pointing the video out.

deepshock
Sep 26, 2008

Poor zombies never stood a chance.


One difference I already see in Ego's favor is that his derails last 5 seconds and not 3 minutes. They also actually flow into the work rather than interrupting it as badly as any commercial. Ego isn't perfect, but he's a cut above the usual lot. I look forward to more from this guy as long as he's still got it. His wordplay is solid, his facts are informative, and his insights, even if one disagrees, are genuinely entertaining.

bbf2
Nov 22, 2007

"The White Shadow"

deepshock posted:

One difference I already see in Ego's favor is that his derails last 5 seconds and not 3 minutes. They also actually flow into the work rather than interrupting it as badly as any commercial. Ego isn't perfect, but he's a cut above the usual lot. I look forward to more from this guy as long as he's still got it. His wordplay is solid, his facts are informative, and his insights, even if one disagrees, are genuinely entertaining.

Has he done other reviews or segments like this? I tried looking on his youtube page but it seems like every single other video is a cartoon skit.

mind the walrus posted:

decent reviews that don't suck up to the film industry (a reason I stopped watching Spill.com stuff, despite the decent back-and-forth and occasional good criticism).

Yeah that is a good point about spill.com. I started getting into their video reviews, but it seems like there's an incredibly high amount of positive reviews and very few negative reviews which is a little strange. Call me cynical but I can't help but feel the fact that movie studios sponsor the site and plaster it with movie ads has something to do with it. (For example, right now that stupid Seth Rogan alien movie is all over their website and an ad for it plays before every video. There is absolutely no way that they would put a negative review for it up when the movie comes out.)

bbf2 fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2011 around 10:15

deepshock
Sep 26, 2008

Poor zombies never stood a chance.


bbf2 posted:

Has he done other reviews or segments like this? I tried looking on his youtube page but it seems like every single other video is a cartoon skit.



No, this is his only review that I'm aware of. Newgrounds doesn't turn up any extras.
I really liked his awesome series, but I think he'll have the sense not to use his Awesome stuff to pad the hell out of anything he does that's unrelated to awesome .

Prog Rug
Feb 23, 2011



bbf2 posted:

Seth Rogan alien movie

HEY, it's a Nicholas Frost and Simon Pegg movie not a Seth Rogan movie (unless it sucks then it is Rogans fault.)

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Now with complementary face-buffer

free snack posted:

HEY, it's a Nicholas Frost and Simon Pegg movie not a Seth Rogan movie (unless it sucks then it is Rogans fault.)

Rogen does the Alien's voice.

Henry Fungletrumpet
Dec 1, 2008


Frost and Pegg wrote it.

Thunderfinger
Jan 15, 2011



Spoony's back from PAX.



Air Julio
Oct 9, 2005

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Didn't know the thread had moved over here. One of the things we suspected would happen in the previous thread has come true. http://www.lordkat.com/goodbye-channel-awesome.html Good for Jason. After his letter to busy street, the writing was on the wall.

I haven't really been following any of these guys since the old thread died. That castlevania video was pretty good. Dude just needs to lower his mic levels down and the shouting could be tolerable and even funny.

I really want to get a twitter account now. I'm missing all the good stuff

Robert Denby
Sep 9, 2007

Two personal bests...


Thank God. Here's hoping the more talented people there follow suit. LordKat thankfully isolated himself from the rest of the people on that site as much as humanly possible (I can only think of only two cameos he's done in other people's videos off the top of my head), and he's actually entertaining and informative. Guess I'll have to start watching his stream more, and I'm glad to see he's still going to focus on This Week in Games.

Thunderfinger posted:



Wow, he's developing an even more punchable face than Doug. Also, I'm chuckling to myself because with his hair he's starting to resemble loving Tidus.

Undead Unicorn
Sep 14, 2010
DONT YOU FUCKING DARE INSULT ENDERS GAME GOD DAMN
MAYBE I SHOULD BE COMBATIVE AND TALK MORE ABOUT ENDERS GAME IN THIS THREAD

DO ME A FAVOR AND ENSURE THAT I GET TO WRITE PARAGRAPHS-LONG DIATRIBES DEFENDING THE WORK OF A MAN WHO THINKS BEING MOLESTED MAKES KIDS GAY. GOOD SHIT


Air Julio posted:

I really want to get a twitter account now. I'm missing all the good stuff

Not really, the Spoony "meltdown" never really came and all we had was a guy from Rifftrax saying he didn't want to have a twitter fight with Spoony. Alot of stuff/failure going on but Twitter ain't were its at.

EDIT Hey, I got a line to Lord Kat himself. He isn't a goon but I can fork over the so he can join our wonderful community.

Undead Unicorn fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2011 around 02:35

Undead Unicorn
Sep 14, 2010
DONT YOU FUCKING DARE INSULT ENDERS GAME GOD DAMN
MAYBE I SHOULD BE COMBATIVE AND TALK MORE ABOUT ENDERS GAME IN THIS THREAD

DO ME A FAVOR AND ENSURE THAT I GET TO WRITE PARAGRAPHS-LONG DIATRIBES DEFENDING THE WORK OF A MAN WHO THINKS BEING MOLESTED MAKES KIDS GAY. GOOD SHIT


Bought an account for Lord Kat, he'll be answering whatever questions you have. Just don't be jerks and ask about what Doug/Spoony/Scarrelt/Hitler did to make him leave the site. He won't answer it you loving goons .

Ninja_Orca
Nov 12, 2010

by hoodrow trillson


Undead Unicorn posted:

Bought an account for Lord Kat, he'll be answering whatever questions you have. Just don't be jerks and ask about what Doug/Spoony/Scarrelt/Hitler did to make him leave the site. He won't answer it you loving goons .

Oh, this will be interesting. Love to hear what he has to say.

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

Undead Unicorn posted:

Bought an account for Lord Kat, he'll be answering whatever questions you have. Just don't be jerks and ask about what Doug/Spoony/Scarrelt/Hitler did to make him leave the site. He won't answer it you loving goons .

Very cool, along with Brad Jones, LordKat is one of the few internet critics that seems to have his head screwed on straight. I loved UWW.

Also, I haven't watched any of Spoony's old reviews in a while but this picture really blew my mind on how bad he looks now



You were so thin and funny, what happened

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown




Wow. Y'know, I don't necessarily think Spoony looks terrible, now, but it is pretty drat weird how different he looks from just a couple years ago. The terrifying part is that I'm very similar to Spoony in that a lucky set of genes is all that's keeping me from bursting out to 300 lbs, given the way I live.

Thunderfinger
Jan 15, 2011



pretty soft girl posted:



He doesn't really look that different besides the skin tinged yellow and the hair grown out.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010


Thunderfinger posted:

He doesn't really look that different besides the skin tinged yellow and the hair grown out.

Exactly.

He joined TGWTG and lost his sense of taste.

Undead Unicorn posted:

Bought an account for Lord Kat, he'll be answering whatever questions you have. Just don't be jerks and ask about what Doug/Spoony/Scarrelt/Hitler did to make him leave the site. He won't answer it you loving goons .

Can I ask him why he's so fat and why he doesn't have a real job yet?

Undead Unicorn
Sep 14, 2010
DONT YOU FUCKING DARE INSULT ENDERS GAME GOD DAMN
MAYBE I SHOULD BE COMBATIVE AND TALK MORE ABOUT ENDERS GAME IN THIS THREAD

DO ME A FAVOR AND ENSURE THAT I GET TO WRITE PARAGRAPHS-LONG DIATRIBES DEFENDING THE WORK OF A MAN WHO THINKS BEING MOLESTED MAKES KIDS GAY. GOOD SHIT


Mufreesboro posted:

Can I ask him why he's so fat and why he doesn't have a real job yet?

Go ahead dude, I'm not your mother. But you'd be wrong since he actually does have a real job outside of the internet thing. Don't take my word for it though, he'll be on here tomorrow. I'm just telling you not to ask him that not as a rule, but because he still has friends within TGWTG and because he doesn't want to be a petty douchebag who bitches out people whom can't defend themselves behind their back.

Why are you making me your internet arch nemesis. I thought we could be E-Friends

Undead Unicorn fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2011 around 06:33

The Incredible Ed
Nov 12, 2006

I always tell my kids if you lay down, people will step over you. But if you keep scrambling, if you keep going, someone will always, always give you a hand. Always.


I have a serious question. Was the audience building more a gradual thing, or did it just jump up in spurts? And if it was spurtability, do you know what drove it?

lllllllllllllllllll
Feb 28, 2010

Now the scene's lighting is perfect!


Ugh, this is Ashens second project for the BBC (I think) and it turned out as horrible as the stuff I have seen ages ago. He makes such charming videos on YT, why can't he produce something great when he has the chance? The lightsaber duel was horrible.

PalmTreeFun
Apr 25, 2010

*toot*


lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Ugh, this is Ashens second project for the BBC (I think) and it turned out as horrible as the stuff I have seen ages ago. He makes such charming videos on YT, why can't he produce something great when he has the chance? The lightsaber duel was horrible.

I think that's kind of a running problem. Internet stars always seem to do badly if they get their own show or movie.

LordKaT
Mar 16, 2011


Mufreesboro posted:

Can I ask him why he's so fat and why he doesn't have a real job yet?

fat = lazy. I have a "real" job that includes typing articles under an assumed name for hours on end. It sucks.


quote:

Was the audience building more a gradual thing, or did it just jump up in spurts? And if it was spurtability, do you know what drove it?

Well at first it was an explosion - exposure on TGWTG gets you a monumental amount of eyeballs. After that I sort of peaked and new traffic through TGWTG stagnated.

Ol Junebug
Jan 27, 2009

Sufferin' succotash


Since leaving the TGWTG group have you received any angry rants? Crazy fan people deciding you are the Anti Christ and making a big ole post somewhere?

Also, I miss UWW.

Henry Fungletrumpet
Dec 1, 2008


Hey Kat, thanks in advance for willingly submitting yourself to our goony bullshit (you fool!).

Pretty generic question - how tightly run is TGWTG in terms of keeping content regular? Seems like most contributors have a weekly or bi-weekly schedule, but then you have guys like Spoony who seem to release videos in their own time (granted, he has a bit of a name for himself outside of TGWTG). Is this sort of thing handed down from on high at all, or just at the discretion of the contributor? I'm assuming there's a small amount of organisation involved so that a bunch of videos aren't dropping on the same days, but is there any huge expectation to deliver on time or are they mostly self-motivated?

lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Ugh, this is Ashens second project for the BBC (I think) and it turned out as horrible as the stuff I have seen ages ago. He makes such charming videos on YT, why can't he produce something great when he has the chance? The lightsaber duel was horrible.

I like Tech Dump. The Bo-Starr episode is particularly brilliant, though that's helped a bit by Harry's excellent animation.

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

Ol Junebug posted:

Since leaving the TGWTG group have you received any angry rants? Crazy fan people deciding you are the Anti Christ and making a big ole post somewhere?

Also, I miss UWW.

I think what I appreciated about UWW was the positive spin put on games that weren't very good. There's such a trend in the internet comedy criticism corner to either be a ridiculous weeaboo fanboy or a screaming snarky cynic that can't be pleased by anything, and they're both bland and played out extremes. Jason's presentation in UWW had an informative nature and usually pretty objective stance in regards to saying "this game is bad, but despite its flaws this aspect of it is innovative" and "this game is great, but it has a few flaws that should have been hammered out".

More importantly, Jason never screamed like a raving lunatic, never broke out a boring green screen sketch, and (as far as I recall) stuck to using only Brad Jones for any crossover work. It's a style of reviewing/LPing that, if retro gaming videos are even a necessity anymore in the over-saturated internet criticism market, should be followed more often.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010


LordKaT posted:

fat = lazy. I have a "real" job that includes typing articles under an assumed name for hours on end. It sucks.


Well at first it was an explosion - exposure on TGWTG gets you a monumental amount of eyeballs. After that I sort of peaked and new traffic through TGWTG stagnated.
Hey lordkat, have you checked out the let's play subforum yet? I hear it's the Mecca of let's plays.

LordKaT
Mar 16, 2011


Ol Junebug posted:

Since leaving the TGWTG group have you received any angry rants? Crazy fan people deciding you are the Anti Christ and making a big ole post somewhere?

Also, I miss UWW.

Eh, some "fans" have been dicks about it, but overall most everyone has been very kind.


quote:

Pretty generic question - how tightly run is TGWTG in terms of keeping content regular?

Er ... not really. When I first joined they didn't have a requirement for any number of videos, it was just "update often enough so that we don't forget you post here." After that they made an official policy of at least 2 videos per month, which they knocked down to 1 video per month.

As for when contributors release videos, it's at their own discretion. I chose to do UWW weekly because people wanted it. Burned me out really fast, though.

The organization has improved significantly since they hired Holly Brown.

You're given access to an internal scheduling site and you're supposed to schedule your videos for release on a calendar. That system has more than a few problems, especially with the number of contributors on that site who release more than one video a month (and sometimes more than once a week). So, you end up being forced to schedule videos months ahead of time.

Obviously, Doug has priority, so if he posts something on a full day the low guy on the totem pole usually gets knocked off. That was usually me.

Of course there are the really lazy fuckers that will schedule something ahead of time and then never release anything. That really pissed me off. They do it over, and over, and over again but never release anything - and when you're a guy who can't make a video weeks ahead of time, and you're low on the totem pole (ie: guaranteed to get knocked off) it screws you over pretty hard.

From what I've seen, everything is self-motivated. I can't speak for anyone else, but I was left to my own devices and was expected to meet that once a month goal on my own accord. It worked out for me for a while.


quote:

I think what I appreciated about UWW was the positive spin put on games that weren't very good

I always tried to see the bright side of games. I really do love the video game industry and always wanted to be a part of it. It really hurts to see people do nothing but crap on games (sometimes literally) they don't like.

That's kind of the reason I started This Week in Games. I really do love the gaming industry - despite its tendency to copy the latest trend, it really is full of amazing and creative people. TWinG is my attempt to at least remotely be a part of it.

I'll be pretty blunt here: I hate angry reviews. James, Doug, and Joe's characters all bore me. Being angry doesn't convey anything other than that you're a hot-tempered, unreasonable person. It's good for a cheap laugh, but to me it's not something that should be used long-term.

The quickest way to alienate me from something is to simply be angry about it. If you have a negative opinion about something you need to convey those thoughts in an intelligible manner.

"The graphics, while average, don't convey a feeling of being trapped in space" works a lot better than "these graphics are HORRIBLE! They look like N64 graphics!"


quote:

over-saturated internet criticism market

You hit the nail on the head there. "Internet criticism" is a market that is just way too crowded (and, quite frankly, full of weeaboos that do nothing but spew out meme's and piss me off).

I don't want to be a critic - I'm not impartial enough to tell you what is good and bad about a video game - I just want to be a guy you can relate to, which can help you figure out if my recommendation is something you can take into account or not.

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Thunderfinger
Jan 15, 2011



If you read the whole thread previously before making your response, you would have noticed that everyone here has favorites from the TGWTG community, the general consensus being the Cinema Snob, Todd in the Shadows, Phelous, etc. Obviously, this would be a hard question for you to answer but, whose reviews do/did you enjoy watching more than others? Which ones do you generally don't like watching? And how are you enjoying the forums so far?

Edit: I meant to say it would be hard for you to answer because you've met up with all these people in real life.

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