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So to what extent is this game free? As in, how far can I play without spending anything? Just the tutorial campaigns? I was interested in this game a while back but I didn't quite want to pay for digital booster packs.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2011 11:06 |
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Revitalized posted:So to what extent is this game free? As in, how far can I play without spending anything? Just the tutorial campaigns? No you can play everything, it's just a little tedious to get cards.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2011 14:26 |
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The gold is going faster than I honestly expected. Since expansion dropped I've made 2k gold just playing a few 2v2 matches in ranked and like two 1v1 unranked matches. No single player included. I'm sure if I were aiming for something it would be excruciatingly slow but just lookin' at the number it just keeps ticking by.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2011 15:02 |
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Yeah, it seems that all it takes is 8-12 matches or so to get enough for a booster pack or some other item. While still not super-fast, it's not a terrible grind either. I do hope they make some more of the starter/common/example decks purchasable via gold soon, too - that'd provide a much nicer way into the game for newcomers. There's basic Protectorate and Wrath starter decks (and they aren't too bad, honestly) for super-cheap as gold items right now, so more should be coming, I hope. Oh yeah, levelling tokens are pretty cheap, too. Silvers (6 to max out a character) cost 45 gold each, so for 270g you can just skip a champion straight to top level. The F2P stuff in general has been a really good move for the game. There's now direct rewards for long-term play, and it's less expensive/more accessible overall. Dominic White fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2011 around 15:42 |
| # ? Feb 20, 2011 15:34 |
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Well, look who is Best FW Player Of Goons.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2011 15:42 |
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All right, I decided to not be cheap and give these guys  . If I buy the starter pack for a faction, that should give me access to all of those runes and allow me to actually edit a deck, correct?With $10, is there a better way to go about starting to build a deck? I was just thinking of buying the starter pack and commons for Shattered Peaks and then I'd have some money left over for something else maybe.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2011 21:36 |
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Some starter packs are better deck cores than others. I am NOT impressed with the FW one (though there are some decent ones), but a lot of ST starter runes are still mainstays of my pseudo-competitive deck, for instance. Still and all, a starter deck, some goonerosity, and some gold grinding will get you pretty well started.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2011 21:40 |
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Famicom Bunko posted:All right, I decided to not be cheap and give these guys I'd advise figuring out what kinda bg you want to make and the getting on guild chat and asking goons what the best way to spend the $10 is. Like Greyjoy said, some starter decks are better than others, so the best way to spend that 10 bux may depend on what you want to do. And not too many noobs have been asking about runes so seriously, get on guild chat and just tell you what you need. We can almost certainly provide you with every common and uncommon card you need, and maybe some rares.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2011 23:01 |
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Oh Banshee, you still the best~ I think I might come back to this game, since I still have all my UD cards like double rets, sheouls, grimlics. Would I be perfectly fine coming back with some my classic decks (probably just run demon since that deck is never too old with DEPs etc) and using that to make the coins to buy the new stuff? Also I take it that everyone has had to re-level their champs from scratch with the last patch/changes?
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| # ? Feb 20, 2011 23:18 |
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Although the battlefield graphics and UI could use an update, this game is pretty drat good. Hopefully more goons that like TCGs or turn-based strategy games will play it. To the knowledgeable among you: For the new players like myself that want to play competitively but don't want to spend a ton of money or time trading, do you think it would be helpful to post some "value" BG lists in the OP for different factions / themes? For example, several BG lists that kick rear end and can be built for under 20 bucks? Last night, I put together a Stitch BG and lost horribly with it 1v1. This was due to a combination of factors, one being that it was my first time playing other people. It seems that Stitch are tough to play correctly -- not a very good choice for beginners like myself. Any advise for Stitch players? Based on how my 1v1 games played out, it seems that Stitch are probably a better 2v2 theme, especially with runes like Stitched Librarian. Any players here with Stitch decks that want to team up sometime? I'm available for play during PST prime-time on weekdays. 2v2 seems like a lot of fun. We can also talk about building Stitch decks that work together. One last thing -- does anyone have a Moragen the Lost for sale?
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 00:25 |
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One of the easiest value BGs to put together is voil from SP, and it does pretty well for itself. Mine personally is as follows, Bingo changes his stuff around a little but its largely the same: Champs 1x Crowned Sauropod (C) 1x Lance Admiral Sceian (Exo, in gold store) 1x Voil Courier (Legendary, in gold store, not all that needed) 2x Voil Imperialists (C) 2x Voil Queens (Rare, in gold store) 2x Voil Screecher (C) 2x Voil Sky Captains (C) 2x Voil Sorcerer (Rare) 2x Voil Stormflyer (Rare) 1x Windstriker (UC) Spells 2x Avalanche (C) 2x Lightning Storm (UC) 1x Vertical Push (UC) 1x Zealotry (C) Relics 1x Cleansing Emerald (C) 2x Echo Chamber (C) 1x Tribal Post (Legendary, in gold store) 1x Voil King's Crypt (UC) Equips 1x Diamond Mace (UC) 1x Earth Shakers Bracelet (Rare) 1x Vicious Harpoon (Rare) While it does have a few rares, the only ones that really matter are Sorcerers and Queens. I've been considering dropping my Stormflyers for either Lancers (UC) or even stuff like a Transport (UC), second Windstriker, or Bomber (C). Unfortunately the playstyle isn't terribly exciting. Basically you park Imperialist out on the field for Boost: Voil 3 and then try to get a bunch of bats down to go hit things and make the Sorcerers/Queens even stronger with Surge: Voil. seabas posted:2v2 seems like a lot of fun. We can also talk about building Stitch decks that work together. 2v2 is a lot a fun, but its really hectic compared to 1v1. You get 15 more seconds to coordinate everything with your partner as you make simultaneous turns. Double-stitched is also a bit limited by the fact that you can only play full faction in 2v2, no splits allowed. Blackmage Yapo fucked around with this message at Feb 21, 2011 around 01:46 |
| # ? Feb 21, 2011 01:31 |
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I was gonna post a Clops bg but then I realized that Chiefs have appreciated in value a fair bit so I don't know if you can really call that a cheap bg. Can't be bought at the gold store unfortunately. You can make a FW bg for hella cheap now right? Someone post a cheap FW bg. And then maybe we should link to the posts containing these cheap bgs in the OP. Sidpret fucked around with this message at Feb 21, 2011 around 01:47 |
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seabas posted:Last night, I put together a Stitch BG and lost horribly with it 1v1. This was due to a combination of factors, one being that it was my first time playing other people. It seems that Stitch are tough to play correctly -- not a very good choice for beginners like myself. Any advise for Stitch players? I come at playing Stitched from the FW side so my advice will be mostly geared towards FW, since I don't have many UD runes. The main thing, really, is that stitched are all expendable. If one dies, make another one. Ideally you don't want a lot of expensive things, nora-wise, in your deck. Here is what I have been running: Champs (14): Death Harvester Matriarch Sarinda 2x Stitched Concealer 2x Stitched Librarian Stitched First 2x Stitched Seamstress 2x Stitched Warlock 2x Stitchlings Spells (5): Decay Disintegrate Fading Recollection 2x Stitched Possession Relics(5): Defiling Spinel Elsarin Vex Scouring Jasper Tome of Hate Unholy Tomb Equips (6): Bracelet of Mirrors Soul Reaver Tempest Crown Cloak of Long Knives Reaper's Blade Stitched Hex Doll So, it's kind of an equip heavy deck I'm doing right now, I'm trying out all the new stuff to see if I like it. Sarinda + bracelet of mirrors is ridiculous. I have two basic objectives with this bg: 1) I can go destroy peoples' lives with concealers. They are absolute beasts early on. Build with shadow shift and conceal. You can easily recycle all your runes this way so if you use a key rune and need it back you can maybe conceal it! But you basically have 30dmg right out of the gate. That's enough to keep people at bay, or to go snipe their shrine. With cloak of long knives, there is basically nothing you can't one-shot. 2) Hella Sarinda. With bracelet of mirrors, you get two charges every spell cast AND deflect. With a seamstress or warlock out, you can add a charge every turn also. It's easy to be getting 3-5 charges / turn with Sarinda, which translates into 15-25 unpreventable damage a turn. The bg isn't that expensive, the only exos are a First (which I only run one of because I only have one), Matriarch Sarinda, and the relic bros UT and ToH, which are cheap now because of the gold stuff. Anyways, if you have questions you can ask me in game. I'm Zoopador.
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 02:09 |
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stitched bgs are weird to play basically the key runes are mason spires (although not so much anymore) and the new nora gems work really well. you want to have a bunch of reconstructors for the remains. post up your bg and ill take a look
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 02:16 |
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Don't listen to kylo, you don't need spires, especially since they're pretty poo poo now. Gems are decent but not brokenly good as they were before. They're nice, but not key.
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for crag champs: deep elf priestess, de summoner, de fanatic, soulbleeder, scorched dwarf, flame skitter, nightmare, pincushion, maybe other poo poo i dunno spells: sacrifice, flamestrike, maddening echoes, summon borghas edit: relics: that grieving fountain or whatever KyloWinter fucked around with this message at Feb 21, 2011 around 07:39 |
| # ? Feb 21, 2011 07:36 |
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Ok I'm gonna make an attempt at a cheap ST bg for the noobs to check out. This is frost amp because frost amp is cheap. I don't actually play frost amp and haven't in about, oh, 3 years. So if Herz or Reg or anyone has suggestions to change this speak up. Champs: 2x Arcadon 2x Jakei Snowcharger 2x Ice Golem 2x Lonx Striker 2x Jakei Shardmaster 1x Jangar Arcanis 1x Yeti Spirit 1x Jakei Owl Raider 1x Lonx Adept 1x Bluefist Monk 1x Crystal Phoenix 1x Jakei Starseer Spells: 2x Icestorm 2x Gale Force 1x Deep Freeze 1x Cleansing Storm 1x Favor of the Queen 1x Howling Wind 1x Snow Blind Relics: 1x Provincial Marker 1x Ice Shard 1x Orb of Frostfall Equipment: 1x Mirrored Shield There are a fair number of rares in here but most of them are real cheap and should be easy to get.
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 07:36 |
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Kylo mentioned a lot of the good UD stuff. Other strong contenders (omitting exos/higher) are: Champs: Demonbarb Spider, Deep Leviathan, Bok Warden, Bok Mistress, Bok Enforcer, Nefari Griefsinger, Nefari Fireslinger (kind of borderline, but I like them). Spells: Fading Recollection, Summon Trap Spider, Demolish (situational, but handy), Acrid Smoke (also situational). Relics: Mark of Sheoul, Griefbearer's Fountain, Fire Ruby.
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 07:44 |
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KyloWinter posted:for crag ok so how do I get these things without spending real life dolla
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I´m trying to find a list with all abilities and and their explanation but my google-fu is weak it seems. Anyone know if such a list exists? I tried the forum and homepage and google but only found an old list that lacked annex (and probably many more).
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 09:02 |
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milward posted:I´m trying to find a list with all abilities and and their explanation but my google-fu is weak it seems. There used to be an ability glossary but I think it went the way of the dodo. I found this site though: http://poxnorafans.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Abilities
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 09:20 |
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Started to update the op with links to example decks so here's FW for the hell of it: General 1x Bile Zombie 2x Ravenwraith 2x Utterdark Fadewisp 2x Utterdark Planeshift 2x Utterdark Soulrender 2x Hungry Dead 1/2x Mobilization 1x Steal Life 1x Banner 1/2x Tempest Crown 1/2x Sacrificial Dagger 2x Blight Ring These are only core parts of the deck and you can just fill out the rest of the spots with things you want to try. Captain Farce fucked around with this message at Aug 16, 2011 around 09:56 |
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milward posted:I´m trying to find a list with all abilities and and their explanation but my google-fu is weak it seems. Unfortunately they are letting their database go to the birds and it doesn't have the past two expansions in it but another good resource is http://www.poxportal.com. I assume it's mentioned it in the OP but basically poxportal is a big trader where you can swap runes, and they also have a database of every rune in the game. You can select rune database -> champs and then search by abilities, for example, to see what an ability does and what champs it's on. You can also check their price list (link at top) to get an idea of what different runes are worth. There are vast, vast differences in the worth of exos and rares especially.
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 16:10 |
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Incidentally Maljaran Frontier boxes are $15 today, half off. This expansion doesn't have quite as much value as newer ones and it has some loser exotic spells in it but it might be a good investment for a noob that wants a cheap way to get some tradeable rares and a decent rune base. edit - art reminded me that it has ambassadors in it, which are poo poo awesome runes and really valuable too. Sidpret fucked around with this message at Feb 21, 2011 around 17:37 |
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OK I am going to make a 2v2 sand deck and I need your help goons! First devent forrey into wrath (besides lightning). I know I need 2x Sandstalker lords and Dunewalkers... are there any good ranged champs? I really want to use sandhunters, are they viable?
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 19:10 |
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SpclKen posted:OK I am going to make a 2v2 sand deck and I need your help goons! Been a while since I did sand but I think you can use sandhunters although there may be slightly better options. For ranged I think people just pack good Draksar/Skeez like drak archer/gunner or Skeez cannon. I enjoyed putting dunewalker's mantle on long range units and giving them a big damage boost but I'm not sure this is really meta.
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 19:32 |
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I'd like to thank everyone for their feedback. After thinking about what may be considered my "play style", here is a stitched battlegroup I'm considering playing: Champions (14): Matriarch Sarinda x1 Stitched Concealer x2 Stitched Dreameater x2 Stitched First x2 Stitched Librarian x2 Stitched Merged x2 Stitched Shaman x1 Stitchling x2 Spells (7): Decay x1 Disintegrate x1 Doom x1 Fading Recollection x2 Mobilization x1 Soulreave x1 Relics (5): Ark of the Elsari x1 Elsarin Vex x1 Scouring Jasper x1 Tome of Hate x1 Unholy Tomb x1 Equipment (4): Bracelet of Mirrors x1 Cloak of Long Knives x2 Stitched Hex Doll x1
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| # ? Feb 21, 2011 20:19 |
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If anyone has a timmy I'm finding soultap/backlash to be a pretty fun BG type these days. I'm not sure exactly how competitive it is yet, but it's pretty funny against tortuns.
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Call Your Grandma posted:If anyone has a timmy I'm finding soultap/backlash to be a pretty fun BG type these days. I'm not sure exactly how competitive it is yet, but it's pretty funny against tortuns. No soulbleeder? Dude owns and has soultap. Also you should run that UD soultap spell, I can't remember its name though.
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| # ? Feb 22, 2011 00:43 |
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seabas posted:I'd like to thank everyone for their feedback. I am not a FW/UD person but I'm pretty sure you're going to be told to drop ark of the elsari, drop doom, drop 1 fading recollection, but I'm not sure what to replace them with.
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seabas posted:I'd like to thank everyone for their feedback. I'd drop the second Stitchling for another Shaman. Shaman are 2x auto-include since they can deconstruct enemies/reconstruct Dreameaters (which are awesome), and Stitchlings aren't really useful for much beyond being cheap remains and food for Sarinda. Doom sounds powerful, but really isn't that great in practice - I'd recommend taking Obelus instead. Taking 2x Fading Recollection is overkill - it's a great spell, but you'll want to use it sparingly since the nora cost is so high. I'd go with a second Mobilization instead. Ark of the Elsari is also pretty mediocre. I'd recommend replacing it with another spell since your battle group is already pretty relic heavy - Essence Drain or Retribution would be good choices.
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Sidpret posted:Ok I'm gonna make an attempt at a cheap ST bg for the noobs to check out. This is frost amp because frost amp is cheap. I don't actually play frost amp and haven't in about, oh, 3 years. So if Herz or Reg or anyone has suggestions to change this speak up. Modify that poo poo a little for 2v2 and we could roll through some pubies, here's what I'm packing Champs 2x Arcadon 2x Shardmaster 2x Owl Rider 1x Starseer 1x Juya 2x lonx Hunt Leader 1x K'aeyun 2x Snowman 2x Yeti Sorceror Spells 2x Gale Force 2x Ice Storm 2x Hypothermia 2x Cleansing Storm 1x Snowblind Relics 1x Ice Shard 1x Marker Equip 1x Ice Carved Greaves 1x Staff of Ascendance 2x L'usara's Staff I don't have orb of frost fall. Just make sure all of your champs have arctic.
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| # ? Feb 22, 2011 03:02 |
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Blackmage Yapo posted:No soulbleeder? Dude owns and has soultap. Also you should run that UD soultap spell, I can't remember its name though. I actually had both in the previous version but they didn't work out. Soulbleeder is a bit too fast (either kills everything right away or dies right away) and expensive, and the new gems ensure that no soul is untapped anyway. Call Your Grandma fucked around with this message at Feb 22, 2011 around 03:29 |
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CloudChaos helped me get a lot of stuff (as he is very kind), so the last few things I need, I'm not expecting anyone to have a spare copy of, but just in case, any chance anyone has a spare Dune Walker, Dune Walker's Mantle, Akakios' Blade? If not, could someone tell me what those are generally worth, so I know what I'm expected to offer if I see one on the marketplace? Or what a good way to determine the general value of a rune is.
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| # ? Feb 22, 2011 05:35 |
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 Zoop and I own, AP Denial owns.
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| # ? Feb 22, 2011 07:30 |
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Aristobulus posted:If not, could someone tell me what those are generally worth, so I know what I'm expected to offer if I see one on the marketplace? Or what a good way to determine the general value of a rune is. I know dollar value doesn't always equal trade value, but it's usually a close enough indicator. Here is the website where you can buy singles with cash: http://www.tcgbay.com/stores/cashStore.php
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| # ? Feb 22, 2011 07:40 |
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Omelette du Fromage posted:
That's some serious rage right there -- is that sort of raging normal? You've definitely piqued my interest. How does AP denial work? Based on the chat, I'm guessing you were playing FW. (Sorry if this was already explained and I missed it.)
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| # ? Feb 22, 2011 07:52 |
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seabas posted:That's some serious rage right there -- is that sort of raging normal? AP denial relies on Wretched Witches (FW) and either Magnetic Anurans (FS) or Magnetic Rovers (IS). The witches reduce all AP gained by enemies within a 5 space radius by 2 and Anurans/Rovers reduce the AP gained by all enemies with equipment within 6 spaces by half. For example, their Bastion the Avenger (7 speed) was getting 1 AP a turn with a rover/witch/equip. I also had a Dragon Engine with Punish (reduces their AP to 0 when it attacks a champ) to make sure nothing crazy happened.
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| # ? Feb 22, 2011 08:04 |
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In the rager's defense, AP denial is pretty much the most frustrating thing in the whole game to play against.Aristobulus posted:CloudChaos helped me get a lot of stuff (as he is very kind), so the last few things I need, I'm not expecting anyone to have a spare copy of, but just in case, any chance anyone has a spare Dune Walker, Dune Walker's Mantle, Akakios' Blade? I threw dune walker and akak blade up: http://poxnora.station.sony.com/tra...e.do?id=2446619 You may not want akakios's blade as much as you think you do. Dunewalker's mantle is not worth much but it is an exo so you probably won't get it for free.
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Lamedevil if you ever look at this thread I need an invite back to the guild. Artifice raged out and removed me from the guild and rejects all applications to get back in.
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